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Fox & Friends' one-sided coverage of Brennan's remarks widens Fox's credibility gap with its terrorism experts

February 09, 2010 12:57 pm ET — 24 Comments

Since White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan's February 7 appearance on Meet the Press, in which he criticized Republicans for politicizing the Obama administration's response to the attempted Christmas Day bombing of a Northwest Airlines flight, Fox & Friends has repeatedly hosted only conservatives and opponents of the Obama administration to discuss Brennan's remarks and the administration's response to the plot. Moreover -- following a trend set by Fox News since the Christmas Day bombing attempt -- Fox & Friends has hosted these guests, most of whom have a history of making false or outrageous statements about American foreign policy or terrorism, undermining their credibility to discuss those topics.

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Fox & Friends hosted Lt. Col. Allen West, who pleaded guilty to assaulting an Iraqi detainee

West criticized Obama administration's handling of Christmas Day bombing attempt. On February 8, Fox & Friends hosted Lt. Col. Allen West, a Republican congressional candidate in Florida, to discuss Brennan's Meet the Press appearance and the Obama administration's handling of Northwest Airlines bombing suspect Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. During the segment, West said, "When I look at what's going on right now with the Nigerian terrorist, it's almost like a Greek tragedy of epic proportion." West further stated that the Obama administration has "established a very dangerous paradigm with this Mirandizing" of terror suspects, "because now they're going to continue to come with more and more attacks, because we're -- they're coming here, and we're giving them lawyers."

West reportedly resigned from Army "after pleading guilty to assaulting an Iraqi detainee during interrogation." According to a December 13, 2003, CNN.com report, West admitted that he "threatened to kill" an Iraqi detainee in his custody, that he watched as "four of his soldiers from the 220th Field Artillery Battalion beat the detainee on the head and body," and that, according to military prosecutors, he "followed up on that threat" to kill the detainee by shooting a pistol near his head. A December 14, 2003, Boston Globe article further noted that a "disciplinary proceeding found that the actions by ... West were serious enough to 'merit a court-martial.' "

Fox & Friends hosted Dana Perino, who has advanced false claims about national security in attacking Obama administration

Perino advanced several dubious claims on Fox & Friends, including that Abdulmutallab "bought a one-way ticket" and that "there wasn't a system in place" for the military to hold Richard Reid. On the February 8 edition of Fox & Friends, Fox News contributor and former Bush press secretary Dana Perino criticized the Obama administration for missing "all these red flags," claiming that Abdulmutallab "bought a one-way ticket" to the United States. However, Obama administration officials have stated that Abdulmutallab flew to Detroit on a roundtrip ticket. Further, Perino attempted to rebut the Obama administration's comparison of its use of civilian trials for alleged terrorists with the Bush administration's similar treatment of shoe bomber Richard Reid by falsely suggesting that "there wasn't a system in place" for Bush to order Reid to be held by the military. In fact, such a system was in place by the time Reid pleaded guilty, as many suspects were placed in military detention before that date.

Perino: "We did not have a terrorist attack on our country during President Bush's term." On the November 24, 2009, edition of Fox News' Hannity, Perino falsely claimed that "[w]e did not have a terrorist attack on our country during President Bush's term."

Fox & Friends hosted Michael Goodwin, who has falsely claimed Bush had "a record of zero successful attacks on America after 9/11"

Goodwin criticized Obama administration's handling of Abdulmutallab. Discussing Brennan's remarks on the February 8 edition of Fox & Friends, New York Post columnist Michael Goodwin claimed that the administration "leaked" details of Abdulmutallab's interrogation "clearly for political reasons." He further stated that "the whole thing seems like a giant mess now, and it all goes back to the White House's decision to fight the War on Terror as though it's a criminal justice matter."

Goodwin has claimed that Bush had "a record of zero successful attacks on America after 9/11." In a January 6 New York Post column, Goodwin advanced the false claim that Bush had "a record of zero successful attacks on America after 9/11." In fact, as Media Matters for America has noted, numerous terrorist attacks took place under Bush after 9-11.

Fox & Friends hosted Michael Scheuer, who has claimed "the only chance we have" is for bin Laden to "detonate a major weapon" in U.S.

Scheuer: Holder "should resign." On the February 9 edition of Fox & Friends, Michael Scheuer said that he thinks Attorney General Eric Holder "should resign" and further stated, "We're in the 14th year of this war, and Mr. Brennan and his folks are trying to dismantle what little defense we have against these people."

Scheuer: "The only chance we have as a country right now is" for bin Laden to "detonate a major weapon" in U.S. Scheuer, whom Fox News hosted on December 28, 2009, and January 7 to discuss the attempted bombing of the Northwest Airlines flight and the response of the Obama administration, previously said during an appearance on Glenn Beck, "The only chance we have as a country right now is for Osama bin Laden to deploy and detonate a major weapon in the United States." [Glenn Beck, 6/30/09]

Scheuer has repeatedly made outrageous comments about the Obama administration. Scheuer previously suggested that President Obama is guilty of treason, stated that White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel wants terrorists to attack the United States, and asserted that the Obama administration is "pro-terrorist."

Fox & Friends hosted Gary Berntsen, who has said Obama's response to Iran "detonating nuclear devices" would be to talk "about sanctions"

Berntsen criticized Obama administration over handling of terror suspects. Appearing with Scheuer on the February 9 edition of Fox & Friends, Gary Berntsen said of terror suspects who are "perceived member[s] of Al Qaeda": "[L]et's direct them into a channel which allows us to have military trials on these people. They are enemy combatants that have declared war on the United States. And I just can't understand why the administration hasn't figured this out."

Berntsen: "[Obama's] performance has been weak in national security, and therefore, his speech was weak." On January 28, Fox & Friends hosted Berntsen to discuss Obama's efforts on terrorism and whether the president had "sa[id] enough" about national security in his State of the Union speech. Berntsen said that "his performance has been weak in national security, and therefore, his speech was weak"; that Obama's statements on North Korea and Iran were "ridiculous"; and he criticized Obama's withdrawal plan for Afghanistan as premature. Berntsen gave Obama a "D" for national security. Berntsen opined that Obama had been on a "charm offensive" regarding national security and foreign policy, adding, "[T]he Iranians will be detonating nuclear devices, and he'll still be talking about sanctions."

Fox & Friends hosted Marc Thiessen, who dubiously claimed that harsh interrogation techniques on KSM thwarted L.A. attack

Thiessen: "Dumbest thing we could possibly do" was Mirandize Abdulmutallab. Discussing Brennan's remarks on the February 9 edition of Fox & Friends, former Bush speechwriter Marc Thiessen claimed that the "absolutely dumbest thing we could possibly do" was to "tell [Abdulmutallab] that he has the right to remain silent." Thiessen further claimed that the Obama administration is "politicizing" the handling of Abdulmutallab.

Thiessen dubiously claimed that the use of harsh interrogation techniques on KSM thwarted attack in Los Angeles. On April 17, 2009, Thiessen claimed that the use of harsh interrogation techniques -- including waterboarding -- on Khalid Shaikh Mohammed "stopped an attack on the Library Tower in Los Angeles." But that claim conflicts with the chronology of events put forth on multiple occasions by the Bush administration, as Slate.com's Timothy Noah has noted. Indeed, the Bush administration said that the Library Tower attack was thwarted in February 2002 -- more than a year before Mohammed was captured in March 2003.

Fox & Friends further widens Fox News' credibility gap with its terrorism experts

Since Christmas Day bombing attempt, Fox has repeatedly hosted guests who have made false or outrageous statements about foreign policy or terrorism. Following the Christmas Day bombing attempt, Fox News has repeatedly discussed terrorism with analysts who have proved themselves not credible to discuss American foreign policy by making false or outrageous statements about foreign policy or terrorism. For example, Fox hosted Scheuer; Stephen Hayes, whose false comments about a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda had to be corrected by the Pentagon; Ralph Peters, who previously said on Fox News that if the soldier the Taliban captured had deserted his post, then "the Taliban can save us a lot of legal hassles"; and Judith Miller, who reported a series of stories on Saddam Hussein's ability to produce weapons of mass destruction that the Times later corrected in an editor's note.

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    • Author by Bad News (February 09, 2010 2:23 pm ET)
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      Poor, Pitiful, Pathetic Gretchen Carlson.
      "Get Down With P.P.P. Yea You Know Me"
      "I Think She Meant To Do It", You mean like giving back her appearance fee?
      A Teleprompter is Professional, Scribbling on your hand during a Q&A (Sarah Palin) is Stupidity.

      Speak truth to power.


      Mr. News
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      • Author by nerzog (February 09, 2010 2:26 pm ET)
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        See, Simple Sarah had been hearing lots of good things about Palm Pilots, so she got a Pilot pen and wrote on her palm. "What's the big deal?" she said. At least that's what I heard...
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (February 09, 2010 2:51 pm ET)
             
          I heard she thought Palm Pilots referred to "encounters" in a plane's cockpit.

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    • Author by Sks1 (February 09, 2010 2:55 pm ET)
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      he clearly said that he told them he was mirandized accordinig to this tape they just played so why is Doofus misrepresenting what Brennan said?,,fox news will distort and mislead their viewers with no impunity,,thyey are sickening...as far as his family getting involved they volunteered to help fox news is a joke
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      • Author by bludog1 (February 09, 2010 4:45 pm ET)
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        Help me see exactly where on the tape above that Brennan told them that the guy was mirandized. I heard custody. I heard process, whatever that means. I did not hear mirandize. To reprise what seem to be the indisputable facts:
        1. Brennan was not notified or involved in decision
        2. Terrorist (alleged) was initial in custody of airport police and customs and then was transferred to FBI
        3. FBI interviewed/interrogated for 50 minutes
        4. FBI mirandized (agents had no training or experience in HIG
        5. Terrorist (alleged) stopped talking
        6. Terrorist (alledged) was treated for burns
        7. Everything from the tarmac to travel to hospital occurred in less than 11 hours.
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        • Author by Ruby (February 09, 2010 5:42 pm ET)
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          The suspect was in FBI custody. When a suspect is held in FBI custody there is a protocol. Part of that protocol, I believe, is mirandizing the suspect.
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          • Author by highliter (February 09, 2010 5:56 pm ET)
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            Oh well if you believe it then I guess that settles it! It must have happened!
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          • Author by NoNothing (February 09, 2010 8:25 pm ET)
               
            Well, you say that now because that has now been explained to be the case, but i don't know that anyone explained that at the time.
            That's the point of debate I guess.
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        • Author by DellDolly (February 10, 2010 2:32 am ET)
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          If you didn't hear "mirandized", then you weren't listening.
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        • Author by chrisgodawgs (February 10, 2010 8:39 am ET)
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          Bludog,

          You have the chronology wrong. He was interviewed for 50 minutes. Then the doctors stopped the interrogation so they could take him to fix his 3rd degree burns. He was out of it for a few hours. When he came to, FBI tried to talk to him. He started talking jihadi nonsense, got belligerent, asked for a lawyer. THEN the FBI mirandized him. Nine hours after arrest.

          Bludog, the terrorist has now turned into an informant. His family got him to turn and his testimony got ten of his associates arrested in Malaysia. He is singing like a canary. If he was in military custody, he would not be talking. How is any of this bad? Why do you hate America? haha
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          • Author by bludog1 (February 10, 2010 10:12 am ET)
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            You make a good point. He has now become an informant. Some weeks after the incident and reducing the value of the intelligence he is able to give because common senses suggests that stuff is perishable, very perishable. Parenthetically, I am sure his parents, and other relatives still in Nigeria, are thrilled that we have told the world that he is talking and that they played a role in that. Protective custody anyone?
            We have no idea what he might have said under interrogation by qualified HIG specialists (oh wait, that unit had not been set up at that time). Or maybe FBI agents who HAD some experience in this sort of intelligence-related interrogation, as opposed to Detroit based FBI agents, customs agents and airport police.
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            • Author by chrisgodawgs (February 10, 2010 1:00 pm ET)
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              Bludog, you missed the part of my post where Abdulmuttalab's accomplices were all caught and arrested and are being held indefinitely in Malaysia. But you think that's a bad thing apparently. If he was on a brig or Guantanamo, he still would have been Mirandized, he would still have gotten a lawyer on day one, his parents would not be helping us and he would have kept his mouth shut. Right now, we have results. If we had done it your way, we wouldn't. Nice try though and thanks for playing.
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              • Author by chrisgodawgs (February 10, 2010 1:04 pm ET)
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                Also, nice dig at the FBI. You think they are a bunch of keystone cops? How is the FBI not qualified to interrogate a terrorist? I guess you'd rather have the people running Abu Ghraib back in charge of gathering intel? Fact is, the FBI did their job, got the ten bad guys in Malaysia, and for some reason you are ticked off about it. Again, why do you hate America?
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                • Author by bludog1 (February 10, 2010 1:21 pm ET)
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                  And you were doing so well. My concern about the Detroit FBI agents not being trained and qualified to handle this sort of interrogation (remember it lasted 50 minutes) was the result the need to create HIG to specialize in interrogation of terrorist suspects because of the expertise and training required to properly handle the questioning process which was to unfold over an extended period of time...this according explanations given when the president and DHS officials introduced HIG. And yes, I am delighted that some suspects were caught. How many, may I ask got away because it took 5 weeks to get him to resume talking? We know he said there were those who would follow him. We know that the certainty of an attempted attack, according to the homeland security major players in testimony, is 100 percent in the next year or less. How comfortable are you that with five week old information, we have improved our chances of stopping those planned attacks.
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                  • Author by chrisgodawgs (February 10, 2010 3:32 pm ET)
                       
                    How comfortable are you that with five week old information, we have improved our chances of stopping those planned attacks.

                    Way more comfortable with the info we got using legal means than whatever info we would have gotten by waterboarding him 183 times or shackling him to the ground. You aren't answering the question of what SHOULD have been done differently? Going into the military system would not have made him any more likely to talk. He still would have been mirandized, he still would have had a lawyer the first day. What magical potion do you know about that nobody else does?
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                    • Author by bludog1 (February 10, 2010 4:07 pm ET)
                         
                      The point is that he was considered and handled as a common criminal by DOJ and had to be mirandized immediately. My understanding is that, alternatively, there is leeway in the military justice system before imposition of miranda rights, if they are even warranted. As a terrorist suspect, there is some question about whether he is entitled to miranda rights under current law and judicial decision as they relate to military enemy combatants.
                      Would that have made him more likely to talk, I suspect that has to do more with the quality of the interrogation than from whether it was acquired by military or civil professionals who knew how to question terrorist suspects (which he was not subjected to in Detroit that afternoon). No magical potion. But apparently the Administration thought interrogating terrorists was important enough, delicate enough, tough enough to announce that they were establishing HIG for that purpose! One must conclude from that that such interrogations are not the ordinary types of arrestee interrogations.
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                      • Author by chrisgodawgs (February 10, 2010 9:37 pm ET)
                           
                        You do not know how military trials work. They are still mirandized and they still get lawyers. You are also wrong about Abdulmuttalab getting mirandized immediately. That happened nine hours after he was in FBI custody. Not immediately, not in 50 minutes. And it was AFTER he was belligerent and AFTER he asked for a lawyer. AND he can still be interrogated AFTER he has been mirandized. They just can't use that testimony in court. You are showing that you don't understand either system and you are also not up on the chronology of Abdulmuttalab's custody.
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                        • Author by bludog1 (February 11, 2010 8:00 am ET)
                             
                          If you say so, it must be so, even though reports immediately after the incident from the Administration said that he was mirandized after 50 minutes of "interrogation." If you will reread what I said, I said that under military justice suspects are not IMMEDIATELY mirandized. I would say that 50 minutes after beginning the greeting/ questioning by FBI Detroit agents is pretty immediate. I am also suspicios of the nine hour reference you cite. According to reports that I heard, again immediately following (meaning in the days following the incident), he was transferred to a jail 11 hours after the incident itself. Meaning that it is highly improbable that he was in FBI custody for all but two of those hours, given that he first had to be handled by airport police and Customs. FBI had to be notified and agents had to be located (Christmas Day), dispatched and sent to the airport. Just for the record, I did not in the post above say that the key facts were in chronological order. They are I believe listed as indisputible facts. And, unlike many on this board, I acknowledged the help of the person who pointed out the correct chronological order.
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                        • Author by Dharmasatya (February 11, 2010 10:14 am ET)
                             
                          I think you have it backwards: The suspect is Mirandized and anything they say can be used in court, because they are, after Mirandizing, fully aware of their rights. The only conversations which someone in custody can have without the possibility of it being recorded in some way are the private discussions they have with their lawyer.



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    • Author by Sharpe (February 09, 2010 11:10 pm ET)
         
      Brennan is likely not even a democrat and clearly has no real affiliation to either party as he was director of the national counterterrorism center under george w bush. Saying he was somehow on tv to spin this to help obama is clearly idiotic. He was defending the action of homeland security and not the president specifically.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (February 10, 2010 9:48 am ET)
         
      I was unaware of Cluster Fox having any credibility to begin with on any issue...

      The only credibility this collection of clowns have is on lying and propaganda!
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    • Author by traveler2559851 (February 11, 2010 8:13 am ET)
         
      FOX News which is just a conservative propaganda channel is a spiritual source for domestic terrorists.
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