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Malkin misleads on health care, climate, labor bills

February 10, 2010 9:05 am ET — 32 Comments

Contradicting estimates by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO), Michelle Malkin wrote in her syndicated column that health care reform and cap-and-trade are "debt-deepening" initiatives. Malkin also asserted that the Employee Free Choice Act "would allow Big Labor bosses to sabotage workers' rights to a federally supervised private-ballot election," when in fact the bill would strip employers, not workers, of the right to demand a secret ballot.

Malkin describes health care reform, cap-and-trade as "debt-deepening" 

From Malkin's February 10 column:

"What I won't consider is doing nothing in the face of a lot of hardship across the country," Obama said this week. "Doing nothing"? How about leaving well enough alone, aborting the rest of the original stimulus, retreating from debt-deepening, tax-increasing, economy-stifling initiatives from the government health care takeover to cap-and-trade, and refusing to redistribute tax dollars toward private job destruction and government job inflation?

But CBO has said that health care reform, cap-and-trade bills would reduce deficits

CBO: Senate bill yields "a net reduction in federal deficits of $132 billion" over 10 years. On December 19, 2009, CBO reported of the Senate bill incorporating the manager's amendment:

CBO and JCT estimate that the direct spending and revenue effects of enacting the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act incorporating the manager's amendment would yield a net reduction in federal deficits of $132 billion over the 2010-2019 period.

CBO also estimated on December 20, 2009, that the bill would continue to reduce the deficit beyond the 10-year budget window that ends in 2019 "with a total effect during that decade that is in a broad range between one-quarter percent and one-half percent of GDP."

CBO estimated the House bill will result in $138 billion in deficit reduction through 2019. On November 20, 2009, CBO reported of the House health care reform legislation, "CBO and JCT now estimate that the legislation would yield a net reduction in deficits of $138 billion over the 10-year period." CBO also stated in its November 6, 2009, estimate that "[i]n the subsequent decade, the collective effect of its provisions would probably be slight reductions in federal budget deficits. Those estimates are all subject to substantial uncertainty."

CBO: House cap-and-trade bill would slightly reduce deficits. CBO stated on June 26, 2009, of the House American Clean Energy and Security Act as reported by the House Rules Committee, "CBO and JCT estimate that enacting the legislation would reduce future budget deficits by about $4 billion over the 2010-2014 period and by about $9 billion over the 2010-2019 period."

Malkin advanced misleading claim that "card check" would strip "workers' rights" to NLRB secret-ballot election

From Malkin's February 10 column: [emphasis added]

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday that the Senate "jobs" plan -- reportedly with an $85 billion price tag -- was a "really nice piece of legislation." But you'll have to take his word for it. Despite anticipated votes on the bill before Presidents Day weekend, no one outside the Democratic leadership and K Street had seen an actual bill as of Tuesday afternoon. Few will read the whole thing before casting their hasty votes.

And once again, we'll only be informed of the last-minute sweeteners, Cash for Cloture handouts and backroom deals after the ink of the president's signature is dry.

According to various reports:

Public-sector unions are pushing hard to include their precious card-check plan, which would allow Big Labor bosses to sabotage workers' rights to a federally supervised private-ballot election. Reportedly, Democrats plan to stuff a reauthorization of the Patriot Act into the bill to make it harder for Republicans to oppose it.

In fact, EFCA would strip employers, not workers, of the right to demand a secret ballot

NY Times: Bill "would take away employers' right to insist on holding a secret-ballot election." As The Christian Science Monitor has noted, "The proposed law gives workers a choice of forming a union through majority sign-up ('card check') or an election by secret ballot." Indeed, as The New York Times reported, "Business groups have attacked the legislation because it would take away employers' right to insist on holding a secret-ballot election to determine whether workers favored unionization" [emphasis added]. Employee Free Choice Act supporters say employers often use the election process to delay, obstruct, and intimidate workers in an effort to resist organizing efforts.

Rep. Miller: "The legislation simply enables workers to also form a union through majority sign-up if a majority prefers that method to the NLRB election process." Rep. George Miller (D-CA), chairman of the House Committee on Education and Labor and a leading proponent of the Employee Free Choice Act, has addressed the "myth" that the bill eliminates the secret ballot:

MYTH: The Employee Free Choice Act abolishes the National Labor Relations Board's "secret ballot" election process.

FACT: The Employee Free Choice Act does not abolish the National Labor Relations Board election process. That process would still be available under the Employee Free Choice Act. The legislation simply enables workers to also form a union through majority sign-up if a majority prefers that method to the NLRB election process. Under current law, workers may only use the majority sign-up process if their employer agrees. The Employee Free Choice Act would make that choice -- whether to use the NLRB election process or majority sign-up -- a majority choice of the employees, not the employer.

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    • Author by nerzog (February 10, 2010 9:14 am ET)
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      "Malkin Misleads"... isn't that a redundancy?
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    • Author by republicanblack (February 10, 2010 9:30 am ET)
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      The biggest problem in this health debate is education. We the people of the united states have failed when it comes to civics and history. I myself, a republican, was all worried about mandates and unconstitutionality of the health care bill, and I was TOTALLY wrong. here is the proof,

      http://bit.ly/constitnmandate
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      • Author by weeba (February 10, 2010 3:45 pm ET)
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        I did a google search on that link.

        You've posted this message and link on at least 10 different sites.

        Are you getting paid to do so? C'est la vie

        I would never click that link.

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    • Author by bludog1 (February 10, 2010 9:33 am ET)
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      CBO and JCT estimate that the direct spending and revenue effects of enacting the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act incorporating the manager's amendment would yield a net reduction in federal deficits of $132 billion over the 2010-2019 period. In a footnote, I believe CBO also goes on to include boilerplate language saying that they are taking at face value the assumptions presented with respect to cuts and revenues in the out years. Apparently CBO is required to accept them without critique. They do also say something to the effect that because of that, there is no way to reliably predict how those assumptions will play out in the real world.

      With respect to EFCA, under the systems in place now, no matter who calls for a secret ballot election, the point is that employees are allowed, in the privacy of the voting space and through the secret ballot, make their decision and cast their vote ... without pressure, without threat, without accusation, and without fear. That seems eminently fairer, safer and more indicative of employees' true feelings than having cards collected either by unions who might do bad things to get employees' dues payments or employers who might do bad things to avoid dealing with a union.
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      • Author by worrierking (February 10, 2010 10:13 am ET)
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        "...without pressure, without threat, without accusation, and without fear."

        And you've got experience that backs this statement up?

        How many years have you spent working with the nation's labor laws, either for or against organized labor?

        How many NLRB hearings have you attended?

        How many organizing drives have you taken part in, either for or against joining a union?

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        • Author by blk-in-alabam (February 10, 2010 10:43 am ET)
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          I do not understand why people won't reconize their own history and heritage.When slave plantations existed in the USA many white people were slaves too.Labor Unions got them out of slavery in the USA.There were no laws to free them.The laws that exist today are there because of Labor Unions.This is the reason people bought houses in the USA.They no longer had to stay in the company house,getting paid in company money,that could only be spent at the company store.They need to go and listen to some REAL old country music.There is no difference in a share-cropper and a slave.We are on the same ship USA.It is a shame there are people who do not think it is right for a person to be properly trained to repair the steel plates and engines on the ship USA,and be paid fairly for doing such.
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          • Author by Oklad (February 10, 2010 12:36 pm ET)
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            "When slave plantations existed in the USA many white people were slaves too."

            You're absolutely correct. The situation gave rise to song lyrics such as.

            "You load sixteen tons, what do you get
            Another day older and deeper in debt
            Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
            I owe my soul to the company store."

            I guess nobody reads "The Grapes of Wrath" anymore. It was required reading when I was in school.
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            • Author by worrierking (February 10, 2010 12:54 pm ET)
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              It's one of my favorite books by one of my favorite authors. It's one of the books that usually shows up on the list of books some organization wants banned.
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        • Author by bludog1 (February 10, 2010 10:45 am ET)
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          Please tell me what exactly I said that you disagree with or are questioning in what I said, which was: ... the point is that employees are allowed, in the privacy of the voting space and through the secret ballot, make their decision and cast their vote ... without pressure, without threat, without accusation, and without fear. That truth of that statement does not depend on a law degree or attendance at hearings or organizing drives for or against. You see, I don't have an ax to grind on either side -- employer or union. My concern is for the employee and giving that person the best chance possible to cast his or her vote WITHOUT pressure from either side. EFCA, when someone is looking over your shoulder, does not guraantee that. The ballot box, properly supervised by nonpartisan observers, does. It is as simple as that.
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          • Author by worrierking (February 10, 2010 10:52 am ET)
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            My concern is also for the employee. I've seen too much employer interference and intimidation in my more than fifteen years as a union official.

            I've been to NLRB hearings and have been told "off the record" that the boards decision would be a political one. Being that the employer we were arguing against was a political appointee of the Republican president of the United States.

            I've seen organizers fired and threats made against anyone of the remaining employees willing to step forward and speak for organizing. The present system is weighted towards the status quo and against employees.
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            • Author by riverdog (February 10, 2010 11:19 am ET)
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              and i have seen the opposite with unions. i am a pro labor guy and i try and defend unions but sometimes it is difficult to do so.
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            • Author by bludog1 (February 10, 2010 11:30 am ET)
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              I appreciate your response. Thank you for that. I don't agree that EFCA is the best or only remedy for what you have described.
              There are avenues available, including injunction, leading up to a union vote's pre-election phase covering misbehavior on either side through administrative law and civil/criminal law. They should be used. Ultimately, the secret ballot still stands as the best vehicle available for ensuring that a vote was not improperly influenced.
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              • Author by puttforever4682 (February 10, 2010 1:10 pm ET)
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                If you really believe that employees are better off without card check, then why does business fight sso hard to stop it. Other remedies for employees are suspect since NLRB could stand for Now Largely Representing Business.
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            • Author by BreezyBelle (February 10, 2010 12:11 pm ET)
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              While I understand your side of this issue... I've also seen it go badly on the other side, in terms of union intimidation and lies perpetuated by unions reps. I've witnessed union reps intimidating employees into participating in a strike by threatening their jobs. I've witnessed union officials blatently lie about what the union will provide employees while they are on strike, in order to get employees out onto the strike line. I've witnessed union reps lie to employees in order to get them to sign cards - falsley represent what the card means... and before the employees know it, they are unionized, even tho they had no idea what they were signing. I've witnessed union reps show up at people's houses in order to bully them into voting in favor of what the union is proposing. I've witnessed union reps holding "meetings" with drunken employees at the bar... where it's much easier to sway an employee vote while buying the drinks all around.

              The present system is flawed - but card checking isn't the answer... it allows for too many flimsy interpretations and subsequent "bad behavior" on both sides of the issue - union and employer.

              Even as someone typically considered to be "liberal", and not really anti-union... I would rather see the whole card check thing disappear.
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              • Author by blk-in-alabam (February 11, 2010 2:47 am ET)
                   
                It is ok to discuss business over a drink after work.It is not ok for a person to discuss their future over a beer after work?
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                • Author by BreezyBelle (February 11, 2010 10:36 am ET)
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                  After work... at 11pm... over many drinks?? No, I don't think that's ok. I think if you have respect for the people you are talking with, then you don't get them all tanked in order to make your agenda easier to swallow. I think, if you respect the employees you want to represent, you want them to be clear-minded and capable of comprehending what it is you wish to convey. -- And just to be clear here - I also do not think it's ok to placate the striking work force by bringing them cases of beer to the picket line... in order to dull the reality that pre-strike promises were never made good.

                  Like I said - the present system is flawed, in so many ways... even something as simple as a lack of personal ethics on the part of the union reps I know does nothing but damage the overall case for unions.

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                  • Author by blk-in-alabam (February 11, 2010 9:34 pm ET)
                       
                    There are abuses of the system by both the unions,and the employers.There are more by the employers.This is why laws had to be made to protect the employee.In recent years laws have been loosened allowing employers to abuse more.Employers have also stolen employees retirement money,without consequence.Laws restricting abuses by unions have not been loosened.You say you have seen abuses by unions.You could not have seen these without seeing abuses by employers.If nothing but retaliation by the employer(a stronger force)against the union representing the employer together(a weaker force)Would you like to discuss everything in the pictures you saw?If not I will take it that you are just a lawyer for one of the oposing sides in a battle.
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                  • Author by blk-in-alabam (February 11, 2010 10:19 pm ET)
                       
                    Are you sayins the union introduced them to beer?Got them hooked like a dope dealer?If the union gave someone a beer it was because they wanted a beer.The same union you saw giving people beer also gave people on that same line sodas,coffee,and food because that is what they wanted to drink and eat.Wasm't that in the picture too?
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                    • Author by BreezyBelle (February 12, 2010 9:48 am ET)
                         
                      Pictures I saw? No pictures. Real life experiences.
                      Am I a lawyer? No.
                      I acknowledged that there abuses on both sides of this isue - did you miss that part? Why is it that you are so resistant to ackowledging that all unions are NOT the same, do not function the same, and are not of equal quality?

                      To clarify - the same union that "gave people beer" did not bring sodas or coffee or food. They routinely contribute to drunken stupidity... and call those instances "meetings". During the strike I witnessed, the union promised employees food for their cupboards, to make up for the lack of income during the strike - and they never delivered on those promises. The union promised generous (key word there - generous - a direct quote) reimbursement to individual employees - to help make up for those lost wages... they delivered $25 per wk to each employee. The union, when faced with employee complaints, explained to union members that they had no option but to deal with it, take what they were given and be happy, and that those who didn't "go along" would lose their jobs... those union members do not think they are able to vote the union out, even tho the majority of them are now so disenchanted with the union that they would rather that the union was gone. (Seriously - I am not making this stuff up.)

                      The employer in this case bends over backwards for this union. The employer doesn't make any policy or procedure changes without consulting union reps and the union contract. The employer is so scared of experiencing a major shut down of production, they never dare "cross" the union. The employer, this past spring, experienced economic troubles due to decreased contracts... the employer held a meeting with employees and explained the situation, the employees asked if they could voluntarily reduce their hours by 5-10 hours per week in order to avoid lay-offs, in order to enable everyone to keep their jobs... and the employer agreed, even agreeing to fund the maintenance of employee insurance converage during this time... the UNION put a quick stop to this, instead insisting that a clause in their contract demanded that lay-offs take place for those with less seniority in order to maintain the full time status of most of the employees. Those laid off employees are still not back to work - 25 of them. And in this area, and this depressed economy, 25 people out of work is a good sized number.

                      Let me repeat myself - I do not think all unions are bad. But I do think the system is flawed... and that there are unions that have become self-serving as entities, rather than continuing to serve the employees they represent.
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        • Author by blk-in-alabam (February 10, 2010 11:09 am ET)
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          And I have participated in union organizing.We bought the employees lunch,at one company.The people they worked for told them they better not eat it.This particular company was getting a $5000 tax credit for each new hire.They had a big turnover to collect new tax credits.They often hired the same people over,and over again.They found a way to game the system for tax credits.
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          • Author by BreezyBelle (February 11, 2010 4:14 pm ET)
               
            I can see your side of this issue, too - the company had no right to "bully" the employees... telling them not to eat the lunch the union bought for them. I also agree that the company found a way to scam a system.

            Unions aren't an evil entity - I don't believe they are. I think unions have done a great deal of good for blue collar workers in this country, historically. But I also think there are unions out there who aren't as much concerned with employee rights as they are with meeting the union's self-serving interests. (I hope that made sense...) I think there are unions and employers out there who bully and take advantage of employees. I do not think that it has to be such a hostile process when a union comes in to an employer to organize - I think employers, in a general sense, are programmed to believe that a union will break them, will wreck whatever "good thing they have going", and will turn the workforce against them. How to change that stigma, I don't know.
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (February 10, 2010 10:18 am ET)
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      Baby girl baby giri,you got a big pile of crap you got to hurry-up and sell.It is way past its due date.To sell it you got to sound more stupid.This runs customers away.Come on Michelle hurry up.If you don't,you will find yourself trying to sell your organic fertilizer next door to a potash mine.Hurry up girl.I heard something about World Nut Daily attacking Saudi owning part of fox.These are two of your favorite corners to stand and hustle on.Better hurry up Michelle Malkin the police gonna get you girls standing on the corners of World Nut Daily,and Fox News.
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    • Author by big2xrube6146 (February 10, 2010 10:58 am ET)
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      Malkin pile of dum rocks is right next to the Palin dum rocks in my backyard.
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    • Author by wookie (February 10, 2010 11:13 am ET)
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      At this point the term Big Labor is like saying Big Verne Troyer. And since when did the people who shut down the dock workers strike and keep the minimum wage flat for 12 years become the champions of workers' rights?
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    • Author by jimhum (February 10, 2010 11:48 am ET)
         
      Get rid of all insurance companies.

      Collect enough money to pay for ALL doctor patient needs, give all GUALIFIED medical groups, a blank checkbook, and they write a check each day.

      If even a penny of fraud is found on the check, the signer goes to jail for a minute, an hour, a week, or for life.

      And don't tell me Soc Sec doesn't work. The only problem is that Congress came up with the cost they needed to pay, but did not collect the money needed. It is like a lady made out her grocery list, and saw it would cost $20, but only takes $10 with her when she shopped.

      Hundreds of billions of dollars are stolen from Medical care each year. Have you ever heard of money being stolen from Soc Sec either going in or out of Soc Sec?

      And I have never gotten a phone call, a letter from Government, asking me what I did with that money.

      And that is exactly what should happen in health care, gov't collect and cash the check, perfection.

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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (February 10, 2010 12:15 pm ET)
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      Another chick that's just DANGEROUS.

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    • Author by Refresh (February 10, 2010 12:35 pm ET)
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      Malkin and the like of her only spout blatant lies like this because no one in the mainstream has the balls to take them to task. The lies are so out there, the facts so distorted that any legitimate news organizations can easily put them on blast.

      Media Matters seems to be the only one that cares that these nuts completely ignore facts and make up stuff in their reporting. If journalists, anchors, and commentators do not call out their lying counterparts, who else is going to do it? The media should police media. It can't be that they refuse to spend the time and resources finding the lies and evidence to disprove those lies. Hell, MMFA has done the leg work already. I think they're just scared to take on other media figures even if it would be an easy win.
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