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Beck falsely claims Obama health care proposal puts "everything you do ... into a computer database for the federal government"

February 22, 2010 5:34 pm ET — 27 Comments

Glenn Beck claimed on his radio show that President Obama's health care reform proposal "order[s] a comprehensive database on health claims, so everything that you do is going into a computer database for the federal government." In fact, nothing in the proposal supports the outlandish claim that it would result in the tracking of "everything you do"; the "database" it describes -- originally included in a Republican proposal -- would contain records related to sanctions on Medicare and Medicaid providers.

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Beck stokes fears about government tracking "everything you do"

From the February 22 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:

BECK: It's ordering a comprehensive database on health claims, so everything that you do is going into a computer database for the federal government.

"Database" -- proposed by GOP -- would track sanctions on providers

Database centralizes records of sanctions. The only "database" mentioned in the proposal is a "Comprehensive Sanctions Database" that would compile Medicare and Medicaid sanctions on health care providers and give law-enforcement agencies access to that information. From the president's health care reform proposal:

Comprehensive Sanctions Database. The President's Proposal establishes a comprehensive Medicare and Medicaid sanctions database, overseen by the HHS Inspector General. This database will provide a central storage location, allowing for law enforcement access to information related to past sanctions on health care providers, suppliers and related entities. (Source: H.R. 3400, "Empowering Patients First Act" (Republican Study Committee bill))

Provision taken from GOP bill. As the citation in the proposal notes, the database was proposed in a health care reform bill offered by Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) and the Republican Study Committee:

(g) COMPREHENSIVE SANCTIONS DATABASE. -- The [Health and Human Services] Secretary shall establish a comprehensive sanctions data base on sanctions imposed on providers of services, suppliers, and related entities. Such database shall be overseen by the Inspector General of the Department of Health and Human Services and shall be linked to related databases maintained by State licensure boards and by Federal or State law enforcement agencies.

"Data bank" established in 1996 to fight abuse by health care providers, suppliers

Obama's proposal also refers to the Healthcare Integrity and Protection Data Bank, but HIPDP, which was created in 1996, does not track "everything you do"; rather, it collects information on "actions taken against health care practitioners, providers, and suppliers."

President's proposal expands access to data bank of abuses by health care providers. From the president's health care reform proposal:

Expanded Access to the Healthcare Integrity and Protection Data Bank. Increasing access to the health care integrity data bank will improve coordination and information sharing in anti-fraud efforts. The President's Proposal broadens access to the data bank to quality control and peer review organizations and private plans that are involved in furnishing items or services reimbursed by Federal health care program. It includes criminal penalties for misuse. (Source: H.R. 3970, "Medical Rights & Reform Act" (Kirk bill))

HIPDB created by 1996 legislation. From the website of the Healthcare Integrity and Protection Data Bank:

The Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, acting through the Office of Inspector General (OIG), was directed by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 to create the Healthcare Integrity and Protection Data Bank (HIPDB) to combat fraud and abuse in health insurance and health care delivery.

Data bank collects information on "actions taken against health care practitioners, providers, and suppliers." From a fact sheet on the HIPDB website:

The HIPDB is a national data collection program for the reporting and disclosure of certain final adverse actions taken against health care practitioners, providers, and suppliers. The HIPDB collects and disseminates to eligible queriers information on:

  • Health care-related civil judgments taken in Federal or State court.
  • Health care-related criminal convictions taken in Federal or State court.
  • Injunctions.
  • Federal or State licensing and certification actions, including revocations, reprimands, censures, probations, suspensions, and any other loss of license, or the right to apply for or renew a license, whether by voluntary surrender, non-renewability, or otherwise.
  • Exclusions from participation in Federal or State health care programs.
  • Any other adjudicated actions or decisions defined in the HIPDB regulations.
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    • Author by The_Cat (February 22, 2010 5:38 pm ET)
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      Oh, Glenn. Are you trying to one-up the 'death panel' nonsense? Oh no! Everything will be in the computers, and then the computers will know everything, and then... and then... SkyNet! I hope you're beginning to fall for your own insanity. That will mean your end is quite near, and we can finally have done with you.
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    • Author by nerzog (February 22, 2010 5:46 pm ET)
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      Will I dream, Dave?

      [http://www.r2kt.com/top20robots/hal_9000.gif]
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      • Author by SLRTX (February 22, 2010 8:56 pm ET)
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        nerzog --

        Dave: "I don't know, HAL. But at least you won't have to put up with Glenn Beck!"

        HAL: "Hurry, Dave! Shut me down now!"
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      • Author by albertsenj (February 24, 2010 1:36 am ET)
           
        Unlikely, dreaming would require a brain.
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    • Author by foghornleghorn (February 22, 2010 5:57 pm ET)
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      Beck should be writing screenplays instead of scaring the bejeesus out of his watchers/listeners.
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    • Author by seahawks123 (February 22, 2010 7:07 pm ET)
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      Let me get this straight, you libs threw a fit because Bush's NSA was monitoring terorists phone records but it's ok if all our medical claims go into a central government database?
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      • Author by soze169880 (February 22, 2010 7:12 pm ET)
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        Reread the above: THERE'S NO SUCH THING.
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      • Author by bar2 (February 22, 2010 7:15 pm ET)
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        Please, for once, read and think for yourself. The only one saying there will be a 'central government database' is Beck. There is nothing in the bill that supports this. Please - THINK FOR YOURSELF!
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      • Author by RKAllen (February 22, 2010 7:21 pm ET)
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        Did you even read the article, seahawks123?
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      • Author by roverflash (February 22, 2010 7:33 pm ET)
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        PROVE THAT IT'S GOING INTO A COMPUTER. You're not even trying to show signs of intelligence.
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      • Author by skiploader1111 (February 22, 2010 8:05 pm ET)
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        How do you know what Beck is saying is true? Because Beck told you so?
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      • Author by whatIthink (February 22, 2010 9:01 pm ET)
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        Where's Laurence Fishburne when you need him?

        [http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_bF.ANoNLpnsAGNyjzbkF/SIG=120pkvjpj/EXP=1266976768/**http%3a//www.wright.edu/~walker.134/matrix.gif]
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      • Author by bintx (February 22, 2010 9:41 pm ET)
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        Wow, you are really one completely bizarro person. Everyone in the world who disagrees with you is a lib, you can't spell, you use horrible grammar, you apparently can't read and you usually tell us how "stupid" said folks who disagree with you are. Bizarre.
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      • Author by angels4light (February 22, 2010 10:19 pm ET)
           
        What part of "only tracks providers (as in "medical professionals") who have been sanctioned by Medicaid or Medicare" do you not grasp? And you DO know that sanctions are penalties for bad behavior of some kind, such as fraud?
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    • Author by John Paradox (February 22, 2010 7:11 pm ET)
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      I thought the way to track everything someone does is called "Twitter".
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    • Author by KC_Commoner (February 22, 2010 8:38 pm ET)
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      If you guys care to read for yourself it is right there in black and white. HR3200 Sec 1401, pg 503, line 13-25.
      (E) encourage, as appropriate, the devel4
      opment and use of clinical registries and the de5
      velopment of clinical effectiveness research data
      6 networks from electronic health records, post
      7 marketing drug and medical device surveillance
      8 efforts, and other forms of electronic health
      9 data.
      10 ‘‘(3) POWERS.—
      11 ‘‘(A) OBTAINING OFFICIAL DATA.—The
      12 Center may secure directly from any depart13
      ment or agency of the United States informa14
      tion necessary to enable it to carry out this sec15
      tion. Upon request of the Center, the head of
      16 that department or agency shall furnish that in17
      formation to the Center on an agreed upon
      18 schedule.
      19 ‘‘(B) DATA COLLECTION.—In order to
      20 carry out its functions, the Center shall—
      21 ‘‘(i) utilize existing information, both
      22 published and unpublished, where possible,
      23 collected and assessed either by its own
      24 staff or under other arrangements made in
      25 accordance with this section,
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      • Author by bar2 (February 22, 2010 9:32 pm ET)
           
        Not sure what you see in this but it does not equate to "health care proposal puts "everything you do ... into a computer database for the federal government"" This is an old and tired scare tatic used for many years. Frankly, your health records are just not that interesting. Get over it!
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (February 22, 2010 9:34 pm ET)
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        I'm curious, do you think that section supports Beck? If so, exactly which portion do you believe does so? Please quote the wording and provide your interpretation.

        If you're simply adding to the evidence that Beck is wrong, then never mind.
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    • Author by SLRTX (February 22, 2010 8:54 pm ET)
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      Beck reminds me of this guy from "Invasion of the Body Snatchers."

      There here!!!! Obama's body snatchers are here!!!!

      [http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_82uaG2Rzspg/SpiPIdOJFjI/AAAAAAAAAro/lriH5nNbP6s/s320/eng+fs+invasion+of+the+body+snatchers+UNDEFINED-17.jpg]
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    • Author by macfolk (February 22, 2010 10:45 pm ET)
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      It's ordering a comprehensive database on health claims, so everything that you do is going into a computer database for the federal government.


      Alright, let's try to understand the idea of context. "Everything you do" is in the context of "health claims." Clearly Mr. Beck is not stating that everything you do in generally or even specifically relating to health care will be tracked. His comment, although not worded as well as it could have been, reflects exactly would MM points out that claims against companies and sanctions/fraudulences will be tracked.

      MM also makes of point of identifying that this is a Republican proposal in the President's Proposal. What does that have to do with anything? Mr. Beck has clearly identified that he is not in favor of progressive policies whether they come from Rs or Ds.

      I do think that Mr. Beck is deficient in providing reasons why this might not be a good idea. He does try to create a sense that this is a bad idea without providing reasons why.

      The only reason I can see why this might not be a good idea is that it could be possible in filing a complaint or claim against an insurance company that the resulting investigation becomes public knowledge. If that were to happen, then potentially sensitive Private Health Information could become known to the public. This is a long shot though, but it should raise questions. As long as the laws are specific enough to protect individuals private information and freedoms, I do not think it is something to fret over.
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      • Author by davein2d (February 23, 2010 12:34 am ET)
           
        for the record, as policy, anyone who refers to glenn beck as "mr. beck" gets a thumbs down.
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    • Author by internet soldier (February 23, 2010 2:19 am ET)
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      This from a person who cheered on the patriot act, NSA spying and torture. Typical repuke.
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    • Author by Unreality (February 23, 2010 2:30 am ET)
         
      Let's propose following the Glenn Beck designed Medical System:

      Every time you visit your general practitioner, we're going to put your vital medical information on a piece of paper or film that we'll promptly file and misplace. This is known as "security by obscurity."

      This will assure you that your specialist won't suspect your prior illnesses or medications for a sexual dalliance at that convention in Las Vegas. The good news is that your dermatologist won't know about your urological problems with early stage prostate cancer. Regardless, both will document your visits on paper forms that are filed then promptly and reliably misplaced. Each will write you a prescription.

      Fortunately, by electing to play the medical reimbursement lottery, your specialists will choose a reimbursement code at random for your visit, checking a random box on the paper insurance form, then fax it to the insurance firm, which will promptly misfile it so the doctor's office manager and payment processor send it five more time, requiring another six months before your doctor is reimbursed for your visit.

      This level of obscurity assures you that your insurer doesn't know about your pre-existing condition for either slow growing prostate cancer nor herpes, or conjecture your skin problem is melanoma instead of herpes.

      You can rely upon your pharmacists to confuse your prescription with that of another patient. As a result of receiving the incorrect scrip, you stand a much better chance of getting a $70,000 dose of Trastuzumab rather than a $3 dose of Valacyclovir. Of course, Trastuzumab is a monoclonal antibody therapeutic for breast cancer, whereas Valacyclovir is for herpes.

      Isn't paper wonderful? Thanks Glenn, you're a medical genius!
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      • Author by John Paradox (February 23, 2010 3:04 am ET)
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        Every time you visit your general practitioner, we're going to put your vital medical information on a piece of paper or film that we'll promptly file and misplace. This is known as "security by obscurity."

        Based on the Vogon bureaucratic system?
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    • Author by mary59 (February 23, 2010 1:44 pm ET)
         
      Love all the pics posted on this thread--they're great. Thanks.
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    • Author by fantagor (February 23, 2010 3:19 pm ET)
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      I agree with Glenn. What business is it of your doctor what kind of medications you've taken during your life? Do I ask HIM what HE'S taken? Of course not. This is not pertinent information that a doctor should need at his fingertips. Besides, I can simply recall EVERY malady I've had since childhood and what medical treatments were necessary. I mean, who isn't a qualified medical professional with the breadth of all medical knowledge at their disposal?

      Randy
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