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Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity all ignore Zazi plea deal

February 23, 2010 6:50 am ET — 36 Comments

On February 22, the hosts of Fox News' three top-rated programs -- Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, and Sean Hannity -- did not mention the guilty plea on terrorism charges in U.S. District Court in Brooklyn by Najibullah Zazi, who was at the center of an alleged plot to bomb the New York subway system. Beck, O'Reilly, and Hannity have all previously criticized President Obama's desire to prosecute suspected terrorists in the U.S. legal system rather than in military tribunals.

Plea described as a success for Obama administration

NY Times: Plea "marks the successful prosecution of a terrorist in an advanced plot." A February 22 New York Times article reported that Zazi's guilty plea "marks the successful prosecution of a terrorist in an advanced plot in which explosive materials similar to those used in the 2005 London subway and bus attacks were actually brought into New York." The Times also stated that Zazi "had begun providing information to prosecutors as part of the initial stages of an agreement that led to his guilty plea."

Newsweek: Plea "provides fresh ammunition for Obama administration officials." A February 22 Newsweek blog post by Michael Isikoff stated that Zazi's plea "provides fresh ammunition for Obama administration officials to argue that traditional law-enforcement methods can be just as effective, if not more, in questioning terror suspects than subjecting them to 'enhanced interrogation techniques,' " adding that Zazi is "the fourth major terror suspect to cut deals or at least begin plea negotiations with the FBI in recent months." Isikoff continued:

"These are major flips. This is huge information that these guys are giving," said Ali Soufan, a former top FBI counterterrorism agent who is now a security consultant based in the Middle East. "This shows that law enforcement can be strong tool at our disposal.

Just as importantly, notes Soufan, law-enforcement and intelligence officials around the world have been eager to talk to the FBI suspects -- and use the information they are providing -- precisely because it was gleaned without the use of rough interrogation tactics, like waterboarding or sleep deprivation, that would create political problems in most major Western countries that have officially condemned such tactics.

Wash. Post: Plea "gave the Obama administration a new argument" on treatment of terrorists. A February 23 Washington Post article stated that Zazi's plea "gave the Obama administration a new argument in its battle with Republican critics and predecessors over its handling of national security threats," adding that Attorney General Eric Holder "said the deal demonstrated anew the ability of the U.S. court system to dispense justice to terrorists."

Conservative blogger: Plea is "Non-Sarcastic Good News." A February 22 post on the conservative blog The Jawa Report carried the headline "Non-Sarcastic Good News: NYC al Qaeda Bomb Plotter Cooperating." The writer stated that it "is good news if, in fact, he's helping us track down his co-conspirators -- like his former imam who was supposed to be helping the FBI but instead tipped Zazi off that he was under investigation."

Beck, O'Reilly, and Hannity have repeatedly attacked Obama for using civilian system to prosecute terror suspects

Beck, Hannity, and O'Reilly have repeatedly attacked the Obama administration's handling of suspected terrorists by prosecuting them in the U.S. legal system instead of military tribunals:

Beck: "We need to campaign for" KSM trial "being held at the White House." On the January 28 edition of his radio show, Beck said that "we need to campaign for" the trial of suspected terrorist Khalid Shaikh Mohammed "being held at the White House," instead of New York City, because Obama "doesn't mind inconveniencing businesses. He doesn't mind putting our lives at stake."

Hannity: Mirandizing Abdulmutallab is "putting ... every American in danger." On the January 4 edition of his show, Hannity criticized the Mirandizing of Northwest Airlines bombing suspect Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, asserting that doing so is "putting ... every American in danger. What does this guy know? Who are his contacts? Who did he meet? He's lawyered up. We can't talk to this guy. We ought to -- we ought to be waterboarding this guy."

O'Reilly ridicules Williams for noting that civilian KSM trial is "a real opportunity to really make a show of American democracy." Discussing the idea of trying Mohammed in New York on the February 1 edition of his show, O'Reilly asserted that "just about everyone I know -- liberals, Democrats, you know, Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, I mean, come on -- they're all telling the White House, you can't do this. Why doesn't the White House know that? ... Why don't you know this, when everybody else knows it but you?" O'Reilly went on to ridicule Fox News contributor Juan Williams for stating that the Obama administration portrayed such a trial as "a real opportunity to really make a show of American democracy": "But it's stupid, Juan. Oh, stop." O'Reilly added that by contrast to the cost of a civilian trial, which he claimed would be "$800 million," if Mohammed is tried in a military tribunal, "it costs $39.95 a day, OK, Juan? Because they're already on the payroll, Juan. You gotta buy bagels and coffee in the morning, that's all. ... And so you're worried about some guy in Bangladesh going, 'Oh, I'd like to see the American justice system work'? It's insane, Juan."

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    • Author by mmfa.fan (February 23, 2010 6:56 am ET)
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      What doesn't fit the narrative must not be mentioned.
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      • Author by Bad News (February 23, 2010 10:29 am ET)
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        The Narrative?

        Bill O'Reilly, "Is Obama a Socialist"
        Nevermind that Documents have just revealed on Enhanced Interrogations that Dick Cheney is a Bald Face Liar.

        Does anyone else find it Odd that Mr. Cheney grabs his Chest almost the Second the Terrorism Report comes out?

        Will Dick Cheney & Liz Cheney be asked to Explain the Lie?
        Or will he only be asked how he's Feeling?


        Mr. News
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      • Author by LibLieDestroyer (February 24, 2010 8:01 am ET)
           
        Does Media Matters even watch these shows before they post this BS? The first thing O'Reilly mentioned last night was about the Zazi plea and commending the administration for it... Awaiting correction...
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (February 23, 2010 7:08 am ET)
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      Don't you just hate it when the government wastes a good opportunity to torture someone?
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    • Author by OldCon (February 23, 2010 9:24 am ET)
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      First, I don't want terrorists to be making plea deals.
      Second, KSM as ready to plead guilty in a military court. He was also captured overseas. KSM and his pals whouldn't be brought to NYC.

      I will agree that this issue has been over politicized on both sides and some of the hyperventilation going on is way over the top.
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (February 23, 2010 10:19 am ET)
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        Luckily, your emotional desires can be ignored and we can continue to receive the benefits of legal processes including plea deals.
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      • Author by ReasonAndResolve (February 23, 2010 10:45 am ET)
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        The crimes KSM committed were on American soil, against American civilians. There are no Articles of War, therefore military court is not indicated. Additionally, we have more success in the criminal justice system.

        The only justification for keeping KSM out of civilian court is fear. The Republicans are a bunch of cowards. Now, I know you are not a coward, so I encourage you to think more clearly about this issue and support the patriotic decision: criminal court for criminals.
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      • Author by CrashGordon (February 23, 2010 11:08 am ET)
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        Terrorism, at its core, is a device that attempts to get us to abandon our national values. It is an attempt to disrupt our way of life and if we allow that to happen, then the terrorists have succeeded. I believe that hose who would advocate supplanting our criminal justice system are those who have no faith in our system, and thus no faith in the Constitution. It is a weak patriot who abandons the very things that make his country great.
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        • Author by pete592 (February 23, 2010 11:23 am ET)
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          THANK YOU. Spot on. One of the main goals of Islamic terrorists who target Americans is to test our will to remain true to our laws and principles as a nation. When they are successful at breaking that will, as was the case with Bush, the Patriot Act, circumvention of Habeas Corpus, torture, unwarranted wiretapping, abandonment of the Geneva Accords, etc., it only feeds their own propaganda efforts to portray the virtues of democracy as both weak and counter to the law of Islam.
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          • Author by OldCon (February 23, 2010 12:23 pm ET)
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            Democracy is counter to the law of radical islam.
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            • Author by whatIthink (February 23, 2010 1:34 pm ET)
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              Which is why we should never abandon the precepts of democracy.

              That means following the rule of law instead of ignoring it.

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              • Author by erock33 (February 23, 2010 11:05 pm ET)
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                Exactly, just give them candy and virgins and say "can't we all just get along" and maybe they won't want to decapitate every american. Honestly, you liberals are some of the dumbest MF'ers I have ever witnessed. Now I understand why you can't get jobs. It's a feat just for you to get out of bed and tie your shoes.
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                • Author by steeve (February 24, 2010 12:02 am ET)
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                  "can't we all just get along"

                  Is that what they tell you when you get a traffic ticket? Or was "following the rule of law" too hard for you since 1998 was the last time you heard Rush say it thirty times a day?

                  The law is a device wherein criminals are punished.
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                • Author by albertsenj (February 24, 2010 1:15 am ET)
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                  I'm a liberal but, in a former (military) career, I took an oath to support the Constitution which requires affording the rights provided by God to everyone. There aren't any exceptions based on what they are alleged to have done.
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            • Author by Panic Man (February 23, 2010 1:47 pm ET)
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              It's also counter to the law of radical Xtianity, and radical rightardism.

              But you don't dare tell that truth, for fear it'll show you for the hypocrite you are.
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            • Author by mikehuck1976 (February 23, 2010 5:38 pm ET)
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              Wow. OldCon, without realizing it, you just made the best possible argument in favor of trying these terrorists for the criminals they are. If only you actually understood your own post.
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            • Author by bintx (February 23, 2010 10:02 pm ET)
                 
              And?

              Do we want to become them out of fear? That's what a terrorist desires.

              Read what CrashGordon wrote.
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      • Author by alienofwar (February 23, 2010 11:31 am ET)
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        With regards to KSM, the crime was committed in New York, on American soil...not in a battlefield.
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        • Author by OldCon (February 23, 2010 12:20 pm ET)
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          Yes and the Germans we caught on American soil, FDR had tried in a military tribunal and shot.

          KSM was prepared to plead guilty in a military court. They should have accepted his plea and promptly executed him.
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          • Author by John Paradox (February 23, 2010 12:58 pm ET)
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            ...thereby giving the 'Islamofascists' enough propaganda value to pull in another thousand 'martyrs'?
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            • Author by indictgwbush (February 23, 2010 3:49 pm ET)
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              There is no such thing as an "islamo fascist".
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              • Author by John Paradox (February 23, 2010 10:39 pm ET)
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                You have to realize that the Neocons use Humpty Dumpty 's (Through the Looking Glass) concept on words... they dump every brown-skinned person who commits a crime (or may commit a crime, or who is brown-skinned) as [some term]. "Islamofascist" is one of these neologisms, with shifting definitions and membership.
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          • Author by bintx (February 23, 2010 10:06 pm ET)
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            Um, the Germans caught on American Soil were prisoners of war who committed acts of war on American Soil. They were not "terrorists" as that term is defined. We are not technically "at war" with anyone. Germany declared war against us, Congress declared war against the Germans.

            False equivalency, OldFake. Repeating false talking points doesn't serve you well . . . you're almost always wrong.
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          • Author by bintx (February 23, 2010 10:09 pm ET)
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            read this
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      • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 23, 2010 12:36 pm ET)
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        First, I don't want terrorists to be making plea deals.
        Why not? Do you think prosecutors plea bargain as a favor to defendants? They make the deal because they decide to go for the sure prosecution rather than risk an acquital for a more serious charge.

        It is time for conservatives to set aside their emotions and develop responses to terrorist threats that are effective and will contribute to the dimunition of their ability to do harm. Just releasing your anger on them can lead to undesirable consequences.

        It's about us. Please stop making it about them.
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      • Author by Porkeater (February 23, 2010 8:44 pm ET)
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        OldCon, i hope you get accused of a crime someday, just so you can get on your knees and beg for the rights you would deny to others.
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    • Author by DellDolly (February 23, 2010 12:17 pm ET)
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      This is pretty amazing. His guilty plea and cooperation is newsworthy, but they didn't cover it.

      Yet another example of how FoxNews isn't a legit news organization.
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      • Author by MadRiver Jack (February 23, 2010 12:38 pm ET)
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        Yet another example of how FoxNews isn't a legit news organization.
        They're illegitimate. In fact, they're downright basterds.
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    • Author by rjackson1500@yahoo.com (February 23, 2010 12:47 pm ET)
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      the tea bagging movement is built on hate..they hate anyone that wants to move america forward...they hate anyone that believe in educating themselves..they hate people that believe that all american should be treated fairly... they hate those that worship or choose not to worship a god other then the one in their bible... what they do love is anyone that is looking to bring america back to the good old days of jim crow..they love anyone that will tell them that it is ok to hate gays,black and women...
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      • Author by leftofwhat (February 23, 2010 1:00 pm ET)
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        The right need to wise up.Their lily livered white misogynists need to realize that whites are the minority in America and alienation loses votes.The year is 2010 and not 1951.
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        • Author by inbow (February 23, 2010 1:36 pm ET)
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          Faux does not want to give the Obama's Administration an ounce of anything positive. If it's positive, ignore it. If we can put a negative spin on it, they will do it. Murdoch's Lynch Mob is in Force on faux quasi-news.
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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (February 23, 2010 4:58 pm ET)
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        rjackson, i couldent have said that nearly as well as you did.
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    • Author by Blizzard (February 23, 2010 8:53 pm ET)
         
      You can go ahead and take Bill O' off this list. He talked about it with Megyn Kelly on his program tonight.
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