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Conservatives say Obama "lowered himself" with participation in health summit "beneath" his office

February 25, 2010 11:38 pm ET — 21 Comments

Several conservative commentators have attacked Obama by claiming he "lowered himself" and diminished the office of the President by appearing at the bipartisan health care summit.

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Right-wing media: Obama "diminishe[d] his aura" with summit participation that was "beneath" his office

Krauthammer: Obama "risked his prestige" and "diminishes his aura." On Special Report, Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer said Obama "risked his prestige" with the summit, and that Obama had "given up the aura of the presidency -- which is half king, half prime minister -- and he's now at the level of the prime minister, toe-to-toe with members of Congress. So he diminishes his aura."

Ingraham: Obama "lowered himself" by appearing as moderator at health care summit. On Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, after Bill O'Reilly said that Obama "did a good job as a moderator in this forum," Fox News contributor Laura Ingraham commented, "He's the President of the United States, he's not a moderator," adding that Obama "lowered himself."

Tucker Carlson: Obama "seem[ed] diminished," he "looked like just another guy on a subcommittee hearing." From the February 25 edition of Special Report:

CARLSON: Well the White House is making the same bet that they always make, which is if they just get the President out there, people will fall in love. They'll be enthralled by the power, the magnetism of his personality. This is the same bet they made going into Copenhagen, to try to win the Olympics for Chicago. It's the same bet they made early on with the joint address to the joint session of Congress. They make it every time. And every time the verdict comes back -- which is this guy may be charming -- but it's not enough. The public just doesn't buy the program. I think this time, as Mara [Liasson] alluded to, he may have actually pushed it too far. He did seem diminished in this forum I thought because he was on-- as someone, a Hill aide -- wrote to us today, he looked like just another guy on a subcommittee hearing in Rayburn.

Kathryn Jean Lopez asks if the summit was "Beneath the Office?" In a February 25 National Review Online  blog post headlined, "Beneath the Office?" editor Kathryn Jean Lopez posted the following reader comment:

I cannot get over the President of the United States being a time keeper and moderator of this. These tasks seem to be beneath the office. AND he does not even appear to be able to keep control - they're already way over time, which seems to be his biggest concern. It's hard to believe he has done this to himself. In my mind, this has been a disaster for him. He continues to look professorly and cool and Rs look passionate and knowledgeable. To say nothing of the substance of the arguments . . .

National Review's Yuval Levin: Obama doesn't "seem like the President," but "more like a slightly cranky committee chairman or a patronizing professor." In another February 25 NRO blog post, Yuval Levin wrote that "it is hard to see how the Democrats are doing themselves anything but harm with the health-care summit." He said of Obama's participation in the summit:

Third, an important part of the Democrats' problem is that Obama himself is their only star, and this format is not working for him. He certainly seems engaged and well informed (even given a few misstatements of fact, at least one of which John Kyl made very clear.) But he doesn't seem like the President of the United States-more like a slightly cranky committee chairman or a patronizing professor who thinks that saying something is "a legitimate argument" is a way to avoid having an argument. He is diminished by the circumstances, he's cranky and prickly when challenged, and he's got no one to help him.

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (February 25, 2010 11:48 pm ET)
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      Wonderful words from a pack of cards. Intelligence discarded, communication facilties dubious. Its their trick.
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    • Author by politeradical (February 26, 2010 12:36 am ET)
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      But isn't this what the wingnut whiners have been clamoring for? A nationally televised audience with which to present their ideas to the president?

      He indulges them and get attacked as diminishing the office? How about the dufus who used the office to start a BS war that killed thousands of Americans?

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      • Author by mk3872 (February 26, 2010 8:45 am ET)
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        Of course. They INSISTED he do this. And then when he does, they clobber him for it. Nice trick, eh?
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        • Author by ArtofWar7 (February 26, 2010 11:05 am ET)
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          And if he didn't attend he would be called aloof and regal. It's an old game they continue to play.
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      • Author by smarshall1432997 (February 26, 2010 1:34 pm ET)
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        But isn't this what the wingnut whiners have been clamoring for? A nationally televised audience with which to present their ideas to the president?

        Yeah, but see these Wingnut Whiners (Republicans) thought Pres. Obama would do a lousy job so their Audience would stop supporting the details of HCR, and this just did NOT happen. Why? Well, because Pres. Obama was presidential, smart, kind, intelligent, quick, engaging, passionate, funny, understanding, firm, problem-solver, nice, brief, etc. etc. etc. and this was NOT what these Wingnut Whiners (Republicans) wanted displayed on television. Why did Pres. Obama do this to them? Uh, oh. LOL.
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        • Author by Unreality (February 26, 2010 3:50 pm ET)
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          The wingnuts haven't complained about Obama's TelePrompTer during the discussion...(what's that?) Oh, Obama . didn't . use . a . prompter. or an IFB. And hardly any notes. No props.

          Wicked smart guy. He'd do well here in Silicon Valley.
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    • Author by At_odds (February 26, 2010 1:37 am ET)
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      So is Obama a tyrant or is he diminishing the office of the president? I've heard both and want to know which extreme to believe.

      Since when does moderating a debate amongst your subordinates show a lack of leadership?

      It is ironic that the same group of guys calling for more transparency and to televise debates are sore that the president decided to call they're bluff.
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      • Author by puttforever4682 (February 26, 2010 7:28 am ET)
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        The Congress is an equal branch of government --not subordinate---

        Even though at times the congressional behavior seems quite immature.
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        • Author by At_odds (February 27, 2010 12:28 am ET)
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          My mistake. You are correct although I think for the sake of these debates they are subordinate in terms of prestige, respect and individual power (congress as a whole is equal).
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      • Author by wookie (February 26, 2010 9:03 am ET)
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        He's Jorge Garcia, Nice Guy Dictator.

        SNL
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      • Author by smarshall1432997 (February 26, 2010 1:41 pm ET)
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        Since when does moderating a debate amongst your subordinates show a lack of leadership?

        When the majority of Americans polled that the leader (Pres. Obama) did a good job moderating the debate amongst his subordinates (Republicans and Democrats), LOL. These Republicans are just pathetic sore-loosers, and need to stop with their craziness. Hmmm.
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    • Author by Dradeeus (February 26, 2010 5:54 am ET)
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      You can bet that if he wasn't there... equal or greater criticism.

      Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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    • Author by magnolialover (February 26, 2010 7:28 am ET)
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      Beneath? Seeing as how important this could be, or should be for ALL Americans, I say it shows his leadership, and willingness to STILL engage a party that has no interest in doing anything near to what Obama would like to do, even though, the interested parties (Dems and Repubs) do have a lot of common ground, but the conservatives, nope, not interested.
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    • Author by Refresh (February 26, 2010 8:28 am ET)
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      Is it me, do they seem to harp on the same point a little to cohesively to be pure coincidence? Do they have back room meetings to decide their next talking point? Do they huddle up, make a quick play call, yell "Break!", then rush to the media circuit like an organized football offense? Am I being paranoid, do they plan this stuff in advance, or do they watch each other then feed off the pervious conservatives analysis? It seems too rehearsed and raises my suspicions of a team effort to drive talking points home by repitition.

      Also, wasn't Obama too arrogant just yesterday? They called him everything from snide to "uppity." Putting the historical significance of that word "uppity" aside, lets just say they lambasted Obama for being conceited. He holds his nose in the air too much they said.

      So now that he rolls up his sleeves and gets down with the boys, they have a problem with that? I guess he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He's too arrogant and he's too humble. He's over confident with his nose in the air and he's too lowly with his head bowed to another leader. Obama is full of himself judged by his speaking pattern and cadence, but at the same time he's just another guy because he moderates a forum of Congressional leaders.

      Nothing Obama does will satisfy these people. They are wolves out for blood with no sense of right or wrong, fact or fiction, truth or lies. They are in attack mode. For Obama and Democrats to continue to reach out to them is asking to get their fingers bitten off. It is time for White House and the majority in Congress to move ahead in governing without them.


      Reconciliation needs to be put to abundant use, not just on Health Care Reform but on other issues as well. It is very apparent that the conservatives have no desire to actively participate in compromise and governing. They only want to attack and wait for the current administration to fail. If the Democrats don't move forward in a bold fashion with or without the Republicans, then we should label our own team what that would make them, pussies.
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      • Author by MickD (February 26, 2010 8:41 am ET)
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        The Repub propaganda machine is well oiled and coordinated. Note that all talking points are the same and are said by the same people. That is why there will NEVER be another instance like the Repub spanking that Obama gave them during that Q&A several weeks ago. It messed with the coordinated script, damn near obliterated it.
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      • Author by smarshall1432997 (February 26, 2010 2:11 pm ET)
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        What if Frank Luntz and Republicans saw some new poll numbers on how Pres. Obama and Democrats connected with American Voters about HCR during the HealthCare Summit? And if the polls showed:

        1) 70% Americans "happy" to hear specifics of why HCR was important and must move forward.
        2) 65% Americans think Republicans will NOT help or vote for HCR.
        3) 70% Americans think HCR will pass w/strong Public Option language.
        4) 70% Americans think HCR would be good for America.

        Then Republicans must "distract" away from the entire event by downplaying it, right? Yeap, makes alot of sense. Uh, oh. LOL.
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    • Author by BreezyBelle (February 26, 2010 9:34 am ET)
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      First they're complaining that Obama isn't talking to them - isn't sitting down with them, listening to their ideas and concerns - isn't responding to questions or challenges - isn't interested in their point of view. They say Obama acts like he's "above them all", arrogant, elitist, patronizing... They say the whole process has gone on "in secret", behind closed doors, without the transparency he promised, that they demand...

      Obama gives them what they've been demanding - an open, public forum... his presence and availability... his responses to their questions, concerns, and ideas... and they aren't happy with that, either. Suddenly, giving the GOP what it's been so publically demanding of him has become "beneath the presidency", has "diminished him as President"...

      All this spinning has made me dizzy - I think I'm gonna throw up.

      Tell me again, please - who is it that gives politics a bad name again??? I forget...
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    • Author by louee (February 26, 2010 10:26 am ET)
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      These bums apparently don't know how stupid they sound. A leader should not lead on as important an issue as healthcare reform? I cannot fathom that level of ignorance. I can only suppose this is all the criticism they can muster. They're sickening, really.
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    • Author by Ema_Nymton (February 26, 2010 1:01 pm ET)
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      Let me get this straight.

      The President of USA meets the leadership of an _equal_ branch of government. To the Republicant Party professionally paid bobbling-heads Mr Obama comes off diminished? Wow.

      Who has the great inferiority complex, the Republicant Party or their mouth pieces?

      Ema Nymton
      ~@:o?
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    • Author by Old_Benjamin (February 26, 2010 2:12 pm ET)
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      How elitist of him?
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