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Right-wing media falsely accuse Dems of "Slaughter rule" hypocrisy

March 16, 2010 5:22 pm ET — 12 Comments

Right-wing media have falsely accused Democrats of hypocrisy for considering the use of a legislative procedure known as a self-executing rule to finalize health care reform in the House. Those media have falsely claimed Democrats criticized Republicans' use of a self-executing rule in 2006. In fact, those Democrats did not criticize the 2006 bill because it was passed using that process, but rather because the version of the bill passed by the House differed substantively from the version signed by President Bush.

Conservatives distort 2006 controversy to accuse Dems of hypocrisy

Tapscott falsehood: 2006 Dem argument "against using a self-executing rule" same as current GOP argument against rule.  In a March 16 blog post headlined "Pelosi, Slaughter went to court against GOP's self-executing rule in 2005," Washington Examiner editorial page editor Mark Tapscott reported that in 2005, "the Republican majority in Congress approved a national debt limit increase using a self-executing rule similar to the Slaughter Solution," and that Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA), and Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY) joined Public Citizen with amicus briefs in their suit alleging that bill was invalid "because the bill that was presented to the President did not first pass both chambers of Congress in the exact same form." Tapscott added:

If the Pelosi/Slaughter/Waxman argument against using a self-executing rule against a debt limit increase measure sounds familiar, it should because it's the same argument now being used by Republicans to oppose the Slaughter Solution for moving Obamacare through the House.

Right-wing blogs runs with Tapscott's post to accuse Dems of hypocrisy. The blog Sweetness and Light posted Tapscott's piece in full, commenting "To be fair, if it weren't for hypocrisy the Democrat leadership would have no principles at all." Similarly, Andy McCarthy linked to Tapscott's post at NRO's The Corner, stating:

At the Examiner, Mark Tapscott points out that when the Republican-controlled Congress used a "self-executing" rule very similar to the "Slaughter rule" to raise the debt ceiling in 2005, Rep. Louise Slaughter - along with Rep. Nancy Pelosi and Rep. Henry Waxman - went to court to try to reverse it, arguing that it was a blatant violation of the Constitution's procedure for passing legislation (art. I, sec. 7).

Michelle Malkin subsequently quoted that passage from McCarthy on her blog. Ace of Spades linked to the McCarthy post and  commented: "A few years ago, Nancy went to go to court to stop Republicans from doing something similar, though on a much smaller scale. Good news, we've got her on hypocrisy."

But Dems were not criticizing use of the self-executing rule

Public Citizen case actually dealt with instance where bill did not pass both houses of Congress before signed into law. In the 2006 brief for the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit to which Tapscott linked, Public Citizen argued:

Some constitutional provisions are open to interpretation. One constitutional requirement that is not ambiguous, however, is the requirement that every bill pass both houses of Congress before it can be presented to the President and become law. The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 ("DRA") was presented to the President in violation of that requirement: The Senate passed one version of a bill, the House another, and then the Senate's version was presented to the President, who signed it. Under the Constitution, that bill has not become a law.

Public Citizen asked the appellate court to find the DRA "invalid because the version passed by the House of Representatives was substantively different from the version signed by the President."

Final House and Senate versions of bill differed. According to Public Citizen's brief, when engrossing the final version of the bill that passed the Senate for transmittal to the House, a clerk made a "substantive change" to a section of the bill, altering the duration of a Medicare payment provision from 13 months to 36 months. Subsequently, the House voted on the engrossed version of the bill, "which contained the clerk's error and, therefore, was not identical to the version of the bill passed by the Senate." After the House returned the legislation to the Senate for transmission to Bush, a clerk changed the Medicare provision's duration from 36 months back to 13 months. Thus, different versions of the bill had passed the House and the Senate; Bush subsequently signed a version that had only passed the Senate.

Pelosi statement criticized GOP House leaders for sending "to the President for his signature into law a bill they knew was different from what the Senate had passed." In February 2006, Pelosi issued the following statement (accessed from the Nexis database):

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi introduced a privileged resolution on the House floor today regarding the culture of corruption surrounding the Budget Reconciliation bill. The motion asked for an ethics investigation into the abuse of power surrounding the bill because Republican House leaders sent to the President for his signature into law a bill they knew was different from what the Senate had passed. This was in direct violation of House rules, precedents, and the Constitution. Republicans killed Pelosi's resolution without debate. Their motion passed on a party-line vote.

"Once again, Republican leaders have burned the book on how our laws are made. Every elementary student knows that the exact same bill must pass the House and the Senate first, before it can be signed into law by the President.

"But on February 8, President Bush signed a version of the Budget Reconciliation bill that only passed the Senate; that bill is invalid.

"This happened with the full knowledge of House Republican leaders and because of the abuse of power by Republicans in Congress. Republican leaders chose to ignore House rules, precedents, and even the Constitution itself.

"That is just not right, and it is why, I offered this privileged resolution calling for an ethics committee investigation into the abuse of power surrounding the Budget Reconciliation bill. The American people deserve honest leadership and open government. And once again, the Republicans have chosen to sweep this under the rug and not even debate my resolution. This is yet another example of the Republican culture of corruption."

Pelosi's statement did not address the use of the self-executing rule.

Waxman letter similarly addressed signing of bill that only passed Senate. In February 2006, The Hill reported:

The Democratic leadership also distributed a letter written by Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) that cites the text of the Constitution, House rules and legal scholars to support the case that the bill has not actually been enacted. President Bush signed the legislation last Wednesday.

The GOP leadership has contended that the problem was rectified when Hastert and Senate President Pro Tempore Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) certified that the bill was correct and had been passed by both chambers before sending it the White House last week. "These leaders signed this statement despite the fact that the Republican leadership in both houses know that this was not true," Waxman wrote. "It is a major abuse of power."

2006 dispute and health reform cases are not analogous

Under reported proposal, both houses would approve identical bills. The circumstances regarding the 2006 passage of the DRA are not analogous to the current reported proposal to use a self-executing rule to finalize health care reform in the House. Under the current reported proposal, majorities of both houses of Congress would pass the Senate health reform bill, and majorities of both houses would subsequently pass a reconciliation bill amending that legislation.

Not the first time right-wing media have invented Dem procedural hypocrisy on health care

Conservative media revived "nuclear option" falsehood to accuse Democrats of reconciliation hypocrisy. Numerous conservative media pushed the falsehood that "the nuclear option" refers to the budget reconciliation process in order to accuse Democrats of hypocrisy for previously criticizing the nuclear option and now considering using reconciliation to pass health care reform. But Democratic criticism of a 2005 Republican proposal to change filibuster rules is in no way inconsistent with passing health care reform through reconciliation -- a process that has repeatedly been used to pass legislation, including major health care reform.

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    • Author by Randfan (March 16, 2010 6:50 pm ET)
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      This tactic was unconstitutional when the GOP used it (no self-respecting conservative wants to raise the debt limit) and it is unconstitutional now. In no way are the House and Senate health bills the same. Indeed, if they were even close the reconciliation would have worked. According to this opinion piece here, the only difference between the GOP bills was a clerk's insertion of a 13 month vs. a 36 month period. The health care bills, on the other hand, are dramatically different. The Senate allows the use of taxpayer funds for abortion and contains the notorious Cornhusker Kickback, La. Purchase and Gator Aid. The House was unable to reconcile with that bill and Queen Nancy has apparently decided to ignore the Constitution. MM even admits "under the current reported proposal majorities of both houses WOULD pass the Senate health reform bill and majorities of both houses WOULD subsequently pass a reconciliation bill amending that legislation." MM admits that an identical bill has not passed either through normal procedures or even through the dubious use of reconciliation. Further, the GOP was not attempting to ram through a far reaching piece of legislation like a shiny, new entitlement program. MM can rest assured that this end run will be discussed by nervous Dems across the great state of Colorado this evening in their caucus meetings. In the GOP meetings I imagine the tone will be one of amazement that the Dems would recklessly abuse the Constitution to pass a bill which MM and other liberal outlets don't really even like but, instead see as a Waterloo that must be avoided at all costs.
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    • Author by mrhebert74 (March 16, 2010 7:36 pm ET)
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      Step 1: Republicans screw something up.
      Step 2: Liberals criticize Republican screwup.
      Step 3: Democrats do something similar, but the right way.
      Step 4: Conservatives shriek Hypocrisy!
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      • Author by Tommy (March 17, 2010 4:49 pm ET)
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        Explain how this is not hypocrisy.

        President Obama’s campaign promised openness and transparency, yet the most recent proposal to pass health care reform illustrates anything but that. In a desperate endeavor to pass the unpopular health care bill, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi proposes using the “self-executing rule,” despite her objection to use of a similar rule in 2005.

        The Washington Post explains that the self-executing rule “allows for a ‘two for one’ procedure: When the House adopts such a rule, it simultaneously agrees to dispose of a separate matter, a ‘self-executed provision’, which is specified in the rule itself.” What this means is that lawmakers have no opportunity to amend or vote separately on the provision that is self-executed. This rule has been around since the Great Depression in 1933, though it exists in various forms.

        As it relates to the health care reform bill, Fox News explains that the “self-executing rule” works as follows: “The House could simultaneously approve the Senate version of the bill while voting on the package of changes. This would ‘deem’ the Senate bill passed, though not directly show members voting in favor of passage.” This rule has been dubbed the “Slaughter Solution” after House Rules Committee Chairman Louise Slaughter of New York who devised the rule.

        The use of this rule appeases any House Democrats who do not want to come out in support of the bill in fear of a backlash from their constituents.

        By calling on the Slaughter Solution to pass the health care bill, Pelosi betrays her own hypocrisy. In 2005, the Republican majority in Congress needed to raise the U.S. debt limit in order to cover the costs of increased spending. The GOP used the self-executing rule to prevent the embarrassment of House Republicans and Democrats who voted in favor of increasing the debt. A clerical error, which was believed to alter provisions of the bill, prompted legal activists with the Ralph Nader-backed group Public Citizen to challenge the constitutionality of the rule, arguing that the act was invalid since “the bill that was presented to the President did not first pass both chambers of Congress in the exact same form.” In its ruling in the case, the court cited the 1892 Marshall Field & Co. v. Clark ruling that found, “the judiciary must treat the attestations of ‘the two houses, through their presiding officers’ as ‘conclusive evidence that a bill was passed by Congress.’” In other words, once both the House and the Senate sign the bill, it is deemed complete and unimpeachable. Here’s the kicker. Take a closer look at who joined Public Citizen in that suit: Nancy Pelosi herself.

        Besides the apparent double standard held by Pelosi, there is a major difference between the routine debt limit increase measures in Congress and placing the American health care system under government control.

        Unfortunately, this proposal is winning favor among Democrats who were concerned with going on record in support of the bill.

        However, this seems to ignore the obvious question: If Democrats are afraid to publicly support of the bill, does that not say something about the bill? House Republican Leader John Boehner’s office addressed this in a statement. “Republicans believe that if the Democrats are willing to have the government take over our health care system, they should be willing to vote for it-without any gimmicks.”


        Thanks!


        http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/6109-speaker-pelosi-calls-for-self-executing-rule




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        • Author by mrhebert74 (March 17, 2010 10:50 pm ET)
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          You're not very smart. If you wanted to know why the article you copied-and-pasted does not describe "hypocrisy," you could have read the article you're commenting on, which debunks the principal claim in your trashworthy post.

          Come ON, wingnuts! You really must know better by now than to toss it right into my wheelhouse. Get yourselves together.
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        • Author by pudgmo (March 18, 2010 4:11 pm ET)
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          Does anyone understand the word hypocrisy any more?
          If Pelosi had said "Don't do something illegal" and then turned around and did something illegal, that would be hypocrisy.
          She challenged the constitutionality of the self executing rule and was told it was constittutional, she would be stupid not to use it.
          It's as bad as the D's calling R's hypocrits for taking stimulus money because that fought the bill. pragmatism <> hypocrisy

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      • Author by LibertyChief (March 18, 2010 1:51 am ET)
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        How about some examples there, buddy?
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    • Author by truthseeker77 (March 16, 2010 9:58 pm ET)
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      Democratic Congressmen and bloggers are pressuring Dennis Kucinich to change his vote from No to Yes, so they can pass the bill without a vote anyway.

      Allow me to borrow some words from Rahm Emanuel to describe this move: f*#@ing retarded!"
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      • Author by mrhebert74 (March 17, 2010 8:20 am ET)
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        so they can pass the bill without a vote
        Wrong. They have to vote. I have a new target in mind for Emanuel's catchphrase...
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    • Author by truthseeker77 (March 16, 2010 10:02 pm ET)
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      At least one law professor is saying the Deem/Pass move is unconstitutional: http://blog.heritage.org/2010/03/15/the-slaughter-rule-yet-another-reason-obamacare-will-be-unconstitutional/
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      • Author by DellDolly (March 17, 2010 2:12 am ET)
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        What a dishonest person.

        This guy is claiming that ANY self-executing rule that provides for one vote to pass two bills (the original and the amendedone) is improper.

        If this is his stance, show us all the times he objected to the Republicans doing it before.

        Otherwise, it's simply a display of rank hypocrisy on his part, and on the part of the Heritage Foundation! Tell me it ain't so - them being hypocrites, that is!

        This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. The HOUSE gets to set up the rules.

        There will be a bill, identical to the Senate bill, that WILL be passed. So he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He's making an assertion by omitting some relevant data from the stuff necessary to come to a reasoned and logical conclusion.

        See how MMFA debunks this nonsense on another thread.

        Conservative media figures have recently claimed that the use of a legislative procedure called a "self-executing rule" to pass health care reform in the House is unconstitutional. However, Yale law professor Jack Balkin has explained that the procedure in question would pass constitutional muster; additionally, federal appeals courts have recently held that the constitutional requirement that both houses pass a bill has been met when the House speaker and Senate president attest the bill has passed.
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    • Author by Gone_Rogue (March 17, 2010 12:07 pm ET)
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      Republicans Gone Nuts!

      Are there any ideas in the Republican Party that I can look forward to voting for in November?

      Besides the circus side show of Massa, Andrew Breitbart, Dick Army, Tom Tancredo, Michael Steele the Clown, Liz Cheney, Bill Kristol, Sarah from Wassila, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush
      Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter and the reactionary tea parties?

      Google Michael Steele, RCN Leader and I see bickering over his leadership style and wasteful spending within the GOP. Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin and the Steele branch of the new GOP leaves nothing to desire.

      Google the Republican Healthcare Plan, and I see there will be a push to "repeal" any plan that passes. Off course, we know this is political grandstanding because the Senate will need 67 votes to override a veto by Obama.

      Google the Republicans, and I see scare tactics, reactionary incendiary comments about the Democrats. FOX News? All about Eric Massa. Research on terrorism, and I see Liz Cheney's McCarthyism ad and its backlash.

      What contract does the GOP plan to present to the American people in November 2010? What is the GOP plan for the way forward on health care, energy, jobs, environment, Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay, infrastructure preservation, and the welfare of the states?

      In the short term, the Republicans will see gains, however, without a solid plan to move America forward, I do not see how the GOP expects to win and lead.

      It is any wonder, that the silent majority of main stream Republicans like me, are shredding our fund raising letters, and have no plans to vote or will like vote for independent candidates.
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