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Media falsely claim "doc fix" means health care bill does not reduce the deficit

March 21, 2010 8:56 pm ET — 17 Comments

Media figures have claimed that the health care reform bill does not actually reduce the deficit because Congress is "leaving out $208 billion for the Medicare doc fix." However, there is no reason the "doc fix" should be included in the cost of health care reform since the issue predates the health care reform debate and will need to be resolved regardless of health care reform's outcome.

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"Doc fix" will need to be resolved irrespective of health care reform

Klein: Doc fix will need to be resolved "irrespective of health-care reform's fate" and "[a]ttempts to lash the two together are nonsensical." The Washington Post's Ezra Klein explained that the so-called "doc fix" is a remedy to faulty legislation that will need to be passed irrespective of health care reform. From Klein's explanation:

For a longer explanation of this issue, head to this post. The short version: In 1997, Republicans passed the Medicare Sustainable Growth Rate into law. The provision created a simple equation meant to hold down Medicare costs and cut doctor payments when they rose. But the provision was passed when Medicare's costs were uncommonly low. Suddenly, SGR was forcing huge cuts rather than the modest adjustments that had been intended. So legislators began voting to delay implementation rather than cut doctor payments.

The first delay was passed in 2003, under Republicans. Then again in 2005, also under Republicans. Then in 2006, under Republicans. Then in 2007 and 2008, under Democrats. For those keeping count at home, this is a policy in a Republican bill that Republicans delayed three times and Democrats delayed twice. What's needed is to reform the system so we stop delaying it. And we will need to do that -- and this is important -- whether or not health-care reform passes.

Klein further stated that the problem necessitating the fix "predates health-care reform and exists irrespective of health-care reform's fate. Attempts to lash the two together are nonsensical."

NY Times: "Doc fix long predates" reform and criticism is "pretty flimsy." The Times' David Leonhardt described criticisms of the "so-called doc fix" as "pretty flimsy," explaining that the fix would rectify an "accounting fiction" resulting from the 1990s legislation that has been repeatedly overridden since 2003. He wrote:

The current health care bills don't fix this problem. An early version of them tried to, which has led some people to suggest that the doc fix is a creation of this health reform effort. But it isn't. The doc fix long predates it. For reform to reduce the deficit relative to the status quo, it doesn't need to undo the doc fix -- any more than it needs to, say, cure cancer in order to improve the nation's health. The bill simply needs to improve the status quo.

Media figures claim the doc fix makes health care bill a "deficit buster"

Cavuto: Doc fix "could make this a deficit buster." On the March 21 edition of Fox News' America's News HQ, Fox Business' Neil Cavuto stated, "I don't know whose math we end up believing here, but the Congressional Budget Office has signed off on this. We should stress that even though the CBO is saying that this is now going to be deficit-neutral, they don't have this -- these new goodies that they've added in there that accommodate doctors -- compensate doctors, I should say -- on Medicare cuts, which could make this obviously a deficit buster."

ABC's Karl: "There's some interesting accounting here" since "the Medicare doc fix, for instance, is not in here." On the March 21 edition of ABC's This Week, host Jonathan Karl stated, "I mean, there is some interesting accounting here. I mean, the Medicare doc fix, for instance, is not in here. That's a couple hundred billion dollars." Guest and Fox News analyst Karl Rove subsequently said to White House adviser David Plouffe:

What about leaving out $208 billion for Medicare doc fix? What about leaving off $30 billion for the Medicaid doc -- for the doc fix? You've got two years' worth of a Medicaid doc fix. Are you telling me that in two years, you're going to cut overnight the docs -- the doc reimbursement and not pay it for the balance of the eight years of this program? Deal with the facts, David. Stop throwing around labels.

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    • Author by tiredofit10 (March 21, 2010 9:35 pm ET)
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      Par for the course. What else is new?
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    • Author by rtejon (March 21, 2010 9:42 pm ET)
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      There goes Bobby Jindal Fan's most recent top talking point against the current HCR legislation.
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    • Author by ScienceBuff (March 21, 2010 10:46 pm ET)
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      YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT PASSED!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      • Author by DellDolly (March 21, 2010 11:42 pm ET)
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        Now both the HCR bill and the reconciliation revisions have passed.

        And fools are calling into C-Span saying that they're against it and just repeating false talking points in their objections!
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        • Author by rtejon (March 22, 2010 12:08 am ET)
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          At least that one guy was honest when he said he was "confused" by the reconciliation procedure. I'd say that's a direct result of the media misinformation MMfA tries to counter every day, a glaring failure of corporate media to meet their social responsibility.
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          • Author by DellDolly (March 22, 2010 1:47 am ET)
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            Man, the callers into C-Span who were against the bill were poster children for the disinformation campaign! There was one older woman who was really scared that HER benefits and that of her husband who suffers from Altzheimers were going to be affected by this - of course they aren't. There were others who spouted debunked talking points. The C-Span host TRIED very hard to get those who opposed the bill or are still unsure to give a legit reason WHY they're against it. Not one could, and I'm not exaggerating!
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            • Author by justanothertaxpayer1958 (March 22, 2010 2:18 am ET)
                 
              It might well affect the care she receives.

              Medicare with the 21.2% cut in physician payments will now be paying 10% less than it did in 1992. Think about what you made in 1992, cut it by 10% and think about living on that now.

              Do you really think choices will not be made that result in Medicare and Medicaid patients receiving less care? Even altruism has limits.
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            • Author by rtejon (March 22, 2010 2:20 am ET)
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              That whole rotation of hosts at C-SPAN have the best fortitude in the business.
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        • Author by ProgLib (March 22, 2010 6:50 am ET)
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          When I heard those paranoid callers on C-Span, I was LMAO with their stupid Foxbot rhetoric. It's shameful that people in this country have become so twisted and manipulated by countless GOP falsehoods. They did the same crap with Medicare. I wasn't born at the time, but I can imagine it was almost the same as right now.
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          • Author by punkin (March 22, 2010 8:09 am ET)
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            I was alive but a child so I did a bit of research. Last night I ofter heard mention of less partisanship with the passage of Medicare. Gee, do you suppose that is because there were only 27 Republican Senators and 127 or 128 Republican Representatives?
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    • Author by DellDolly (March 21, 2010 11:40 pm ET)
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      If we count the cost of the 'doctor fix', then the HCR bill will actually decrease the deficit even more!
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        • Author by DellDolly (March 22, 2010 1:50 am ET)
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          Hey, jerk, you said you were quitting this site. Since you can't/won't keep your word, and you continually lie, distort, deceive and fail to provide relevant info and caveats, you don't deserve ANY of my cooperation, or that from anyone else either. You aren't asking an honest question, and you aren't looking to participate in a reasonable debate.

          This guy's a troll. Please don't feed trolls and troll posts.
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          • Author by ProgLib (March 22, 2010 6:52 am ET)
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            Ignore him... he's retired and has nothing better to do. At least he makes for good entertainment coming on here, looking like a complete moron and ruining his credibility time and time again.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (March 22, 2010 11:02 am ET)
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          Well by DOUBLE COUNTING long term care insurance premiums for one and Medicare cuts second that's how the CBO magically "lost" 40b in two weeks. The CBO is best guess for current law. Not what's coming down the pike.

          Of course Barry pushed the tax back to 2018 for high cost insurance plans but the data it's based on is determined by the CPI which doesn't kick in until 2020! Guess who gets to eat the tax hikes? You guessed it...the Middle Class, and whoever his successors are. Barry's banking you'll forget it was him that hung the albatross around the country's neck and gave our children a nice head start with $35k debt right out of the womb.


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    • Author by ProgLib (March 22, 2010 6:47 am ET)
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      Karl Rove is extremely pompous. What a jerk... he probably strokes himself looking in the mirror everyday.
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    • Author by swift (March 22, 2010 9:20 am ET)
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      The "Doc fix" makes zero sense to the average American, and it just seems plausible, until you investigate the facts; that ending the "doc fix" would just involve rewriting a cut that has never been allowed to take place, and once that happens, no budgetary implications are present.

      The complete lack of a recounting of simple facts from the media -- and from the Democrats, for that matter -- is absolutely shameful. We need media reform as well.
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    • Author by YPNation (March 23, 2010 11:53 am ET)
         
      The bill is about to be signed in a few minutes.

      Young professionals everywhere want to know what you think about the bill and the current debate happening now at http://bit.ly/daY7Co

      Every opinion will be heard and YPs appreciate your opinions and advice.
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