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Reagan vs. "Reagan Conservative" Sean Hannity

April 05, 2010 7:55 am ET — 64 Comments

A chapter in Sean Hannity's new book, Conservative Victory, is titled "Why I'm a Reagan Conservative." But from immigration reform to tax policy to the proper response to terrorism, the political platform Hannity espouses in the book and on his Fox News program directly contradicts the policies carried out under President Reagan.

Terrorism

Hannity attacks Democrats for "treating the war" against terrorists "as a criminal prosecution." In Conservative Victory, Hannity writes:

On nearly every issue since the war on terror bean, Democrats have stood for the wrong principles and policies and have proved incompetent in carrying out their own policies as well.

[...]

They reverted to the Clinton-era position of treating the war as a criminal prosecution, replete with constitutional protections for enemy combatants, and replaced what should have been military tribunals held outside the mainland with trials in U.S. civilian courts. [Pages 220-221]

Reagan: "We must act against the criminal menace of terrorism with the full weight of the law." In a July 1985 speech, Reagan stated:

Now, much needs to be done by all of us in the community of civilized nations. We must act against the criminal menace of terrorism with the full weight of the law, both domestic and international. We will act to indict, apprehend, and prosecute those who commit the kind of atrocities the world has witnessed in recent weeks. We can act together as free peoples who wish not to see our citizens kidnapped or shot or blown out of the skies -- just as we acted together to rid the seas of piracy at the turn of the last century. And incidentally, those of you who are legal scholars will note the law's description of pirates: "hostis humanis'' -- the enemies of all mankind. There can be no place on Earth left where it is safe for these monsters to rest or train or practice their cruel and deadly skills. We must act together, or unilaterally if necessary, to ensure that terrorists have no sanctuary anywhere.

Official policy of Reagan administration: "Terrorists are criminals." In a 1987 speech before the Committee on Foreign Relations, seeking to "describe how our government is responding to the terrorist threat," L. Paul Bremer III, the Reagan administration's Ambassador at Large for Counter-Terrorism, stated:

Another important measure we have developed in our overall strategy is applying the rule of law to terrorists. Terrorists are criminals. They commit criminal actions like murder, kidnapping, and arson, and countries have laws to punish criminals. So a major element of our strategy has been to delegitimize terrorists, to get society to see them for what they are -- criminals -- and to use democracy's most potent tool, the rule of law against them.

Reagan administration tried terrorists in civilian courts.  For example, Fawaz Younis was convicted of conspiracy, aircraft piracy, and hostage-taking in a federal court after participating in the hijacking of an airplane, and sentenced to 30 years in prison.

Nuclear arms control

Hannity: "We must not dismantle our nuclear weapons," "we can never return to a world" without them. In Conservative Victory, Hannity writes:

[W]e must be committed to retaining our position as the world's greatest superpower, by maintaining the world's strongest military and supporting our troops on and off the battlefield. We must not dismantle our nuclear weapons and must persist in perfecting our strategic missile defenses. [Page 222]

He also writes:

Conservatives, on the other hand, recognize that we live in a dangerous world, and that the world will always be dangerous because human beings are fallen. The nuclear genie is out of the bottle; the world has changed; much as we would like, we can never return to a world without nuclear weapons. [Page 209]

Reagan's "ultimate goal" was "eliminating all nuclear weapons." In several speeches, Reagan stated that his "ultimate goal" was the "total elimination of nuclear weapons."

Reagan: "[S]igning of the first-ever agreement eliminating nuclear weapons" "has a universal significance for mankind." In December 1987, President Reagan signed the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty with the Soviet Union,  which "requires destruction of the Parties' ground-launched ballistic and cruise missiles with ranges of between 500 and 5,500 kilometers, their launchers and associated support structures and support equipment within three years after the Treaty enters into force."

In his remarks on signing the treaty, Reagan stated, "For the first time in history, the language of 'arms control' was replaced by 'arms reduction' -- in this case, the complete elimination of an entire class of U.S. and Soviet nuclear missiles. Of course, this required a dramatic shift in thinking, and it took conventional wisdom some time to catch up. Reaction, to say the least, was mixed. To some the zero option was impossibly visionary and unrealistic; to others merely a propaganda ploy. Well, with patience, determination, and commitment, we've made this impossible vision a reality." He added that "I will venture to say that what we are going to do, the signing of the first-ever agreement eliminating nuclear weapons, has a universal significance for mankind, both from the standpoint of world politics and from the standpoint of humanism."

Reagan proposed reductions to ICBMs that eventually became the START I treaty. In a May 9, 1982 speech, Reagan stated:

The main threat to peace posed by nuclear weapons today is the growing instability of the nuclear balance. This is due to the increasingly destructive potential of the massive Soviet buildup in its ballistic missile force.

Therefore, our goal is to enhance deterrence and achieve stability through significant reductions in the most destabilizing nuclear systems, ballistic missiles, and especially the giant intercontinental ballistic missiles, while maintaining a nuclear capability sufficient to deter conflict, to underwrite our national security, and to meet our commitment to allies and friends.

For the immediate future, I'm asking my START -- and START really means -- we've given up on SALT -- START means ''Strategic Arms Reduction Talks,'' and that negotiating team to propose to their Soviet counterparts a practical, phased reduction plan. The focus of our efforts will be to reduce significantly the most destabilizing systems, the ballistic missiles, the number of warheads they carry, and their overall destructive potential.

At the first phase, or the end of the first phase of START, I expect ballistic missile warheads, the most serious threat we face, to be reduced to equal levels, equal ceilings, at least a third below the current levels. To enhance stability, I would ask that no more than half of those warheads be land-based. I hope that these warhead reductions, as well as significant reductions in missiles themselves, could be achieved as rapidly as possible.

In a second phase, we'll seek to achieve an equal ceiling on other elements of our strategic nuclear forces, including limits on the ballistic missile throw-weight at less than current American levels. In both phases, we shall insist on verification procedures to ensure compliance with the agreement.

This, I might say, will be the twentieth time that we have sought such negotiations with the Soviet Union since World War II. The monumental task of reducing and reshaping our strategic forces to enhance stability will take many years of concentrated effort. But I believe that it will be possible to reduce the risks of war by removing the instabilities that now exist and by dismantling the nuclear menace.

I have written to President Brezhnev and directed Secretary Haig to approach the Soviet Government concerning the initiation of formal negotiations on the reduction of strategic nuclear arms, START, at the earliest opportunity. We hope negotiations will begin by the end of June.

We will negotiate seriously, in good faith, and carefully consider all proposals made by the Soviet Union. If they approach these negotiations in the same spirit, I'm confident that together we can achieve an agreement of enduring value that reduces the number of nuclear weapons, halts the growth in strategic forces, and opens the way to even more far-reaching steps in the future.

Negotiations on the treaty that eventually became START I began in 1982 following Reagan's speech and continued intermittently through his presidency. President George H.W. Bush signed the START I treaty with the Soviet Union in July 1991.

Budget Deficits

Hannity: "[W]e must stand for... an end to deficit spending."  On Page 203 of Conservative Victory, Hannity writes that "we must stand for fiscal integrity, and for sound money - and for an end to deficit spending, now more than ever."

Federal government ran budget deficit every year of the Reagan administration. According to the White House Office of Management and Budget, the federal government engaged in deficit spending every year of Reagan's presidency.

Year

Receipts (in millions of dollars)

Outlays (in millions of dollars)

Surplus or Deficit (-) (in millions of dollars)

       

1981

599,272

678,241

-78,968

1982

617,766

745,743

-127,977

1983

600,562

808,364

-207,802

1984

666,486

851,853

-185,367

1985

734,088

946,396

-212,308

1986

769,215

990,441

-221,227

1987

854,353

1,004,083

-149,730

1988

909,303

1,064,481

-155,178

Taxes

Hannity: "[W]e must reduce, not increase" taxes. In Conservative Victory, Hannity writes that "we must reduce, not increase, the rate at which the government taxes our earnings." [Page 203]

"[N]o peacetime president has raised taxes so much on so many people" as Reagan. In a 2004 New York Times column, Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman wrote:

But Ronald Reagan does hold a special place in the annals of tax policy, and not just as the patron saint of tax cuts. To his credit, he was more pragmatic and responsible than that; he followed his huge 1981 tax cut with two large tax increases. In fact, no peacetime president has raised taxes so much on so many people. This is not a criticism: the tale of those increases tells you a lot about what was right with President Reagan's leadership, and what's wrong with the leadership of George W. Bush.

The first Reagan tax increase came in 1982. By then it was clear that the budget projections used to justify the 1981 tax cut were wildly optimistic. In response, Mr. Reagan agreed to a sharp rollback of corporate tax cuts, and a smaller rollback of individual income tax cuts. Over all, the 1982 tax increase undid about a third of the 1981 cut; as a share of G.D.P., the increase was substantially larger than Mr. Clinton's 1993 tax increase.

The contrast with President Bush is obvious. President Reagan, confronted with evidence that his tax cuts were fiscally irresponsible, changed course. President Bush, confronted with similar evidence, has pushed for even more tax cuts.

Mr. Reagan's second tax increase was also motivated by a sense of responsibility; or at least that's the way it seemed at the time. I'm referring to the Social Security Reform Act of 1983, which followed the recommendations of a commission led by Alan Greenspan. Its key provision was an increase in the payroll tax that pays for Social Security and Medicare hospital insurance.

For many middle- and low-income families, this tax increase more than undid any gains from Mr. Reagan's income tax cuts. In 1980, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates, middle-income families with children paid 8.2 percent of their income in income taxes, and 9.5 percent in payroll taxes. By 1988 the income tax share was down to 6.6 percent; but the payroll tax share was up to 11.8 percent, and the combined burden was up, not down.

Immigration

Hannity has repeatedly expressed opposition to granting "amnesty" to undocumented immigrants." For example, on the August 11, 2008, edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, Hannity stated (accessed from the Nexis database):

HANNITY: [I]mmigration reform, and I disagree with Senator McCain on this. McCain-Kennedy I think was a bad idea, I believe it was amnesty. I don't care how you spell in out. In essence, that's what it would be, I love President Bush, it was one of the areas I've had a disagreement with him on. I support immigration. I'm the product of immigration. ... Why can't - why would we for all the people that have waited all the years and gone through all the bureaucracy, why would we reward the people that didn't respect our laws and sovereignty just get to stay and $2,500 fine? Why?

Reagan provided a path to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants. Reagan signed the Immigration and Control Act of 1986, which provided a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who met certain requirements and met a series of conditions. According to then-Attorney General Edwin Meese III, "some 2.7 million people were granted amnesty" under that law. In his statement on signing the bill, Reagan said:

In 1981 this administration asked the Congress to pass a comprehensive legislative package, including employer sanctions, other measures to increase enforcement of the immigration laws, and legalization. The act provides these three essential components. The employer sanctions program is the keystone and major element. It will remove the incentive for illegal immigration by eliminating the job opportunities which draw illegal aliens here. We have consistently supported a legalization program which is both generous to the alien and fair to the countless thousands of people throughout the world who seek legally to come to America. The legalization provisions in this act will go far to improve the lives of a class of individuals who now must hide in the shadows, without access to many of the benefits of a free and open society. Very soon many of these men and women will be able to step into the sunlight and, ultimately, if they choose, they may become Americans.

Judicial Activism

Hannity criticizes "activist judges" who "legislate instead of interpreting the law." In Conservative Victory, Hannity writes:

When activist judges make up the law as they go - when they legislate instead of interpreting the law - they compromise the structural integrity of the Constitution and undermine the balance that was designed to ensure our liberties. Nothing is more important to our conservative philosophy than reverence for the Constitution as the indispensable bulwark of our liberties. [Page 212]

Studies show that Reagan's Supreme Court appointees are among the most likely to engage in "judicial activism." A 2005 study by Yale University law professor Paul Gewirtz and Yale Law School graduate Chad Golder showed that among Supreme Court justices at that time, Reagan's four appointees - then-Chief Justice William Rehnquist, then-Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, and Justices Andrew Kennedy and Antonin Scalia - were among the five most frequent practitioners of at least one brand of judicial activism -- the tendency to strike down statutes passed by Congress.

A 2007 study by Cass R. Sunstein (subsequently named by President Obama to head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs) and University of Chicago law professor Thomas Miles used a different measurement of judicial activism -- the tendency of judges to strike down decisions by federal regulatory agencies. Sunstein and Miles found that by this definition, Reagan's four appointees were among the five justices most likely to engage in "judicial activism."

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (April 05, 2010 7:59 am ET)
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      When has anything Hannity said been based in reality?
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    • Author by markslp7013 (April 05, 2010 8:08 am ET)
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      I think we've heard this all before Sean. Can't you guys come up with some ideas that might actually improve the country?
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      • Author by txthinker (April 05, 2010 9:42 am ET)
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        Can't you guys come up with some ideas that might actually improve the country?

        Rush Limbaugh did, when he started talking about moving to Costa Rica. :-)
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        • Author by progressivevoicedaily (April 05, 2010 11:06 am ET)
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          The collective IQ of this country would rise slightly if Rush Slimeball would follow through with his promise.
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      • Author by manofmystique (April 05, 2010 9:45 am ET)
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        to markslp, respectfully
        Republicans and deciphers are more interested in regaining power then they are about improving the country. They could care less about the country, long as a black man is president.
        Republicans are about the business of politics, while Democrats are interested in governing.
        Is it not obvious...after all actions speak louder than words....
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        • Author by dogbreath (April 05, 2010 9:52 am ET)
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          It has been that way for years. The six years that they controlled the federal government proves your point in spades. Once they had the reigns of government they spent like thieves, got us into at least one war that was completely unwarranted, largely stood silent when the people of New Orleans desperately needed aid, politicized the death of a brain dead woman, got two corporatists nominated to the Supreme Court. Those six years are going to take 20 to recover from.
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          • Author by manofmystique (April 05, 2010 10:13 am ET)
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            to dogbreath
            I agree 100%....
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          • Author by allan.masri1047 (April 05, 2010 4:16 pm ET)
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            At least one war that was completely unwarranted

            The Afghan war is one of the stupidest moves the U.S. ever made. It picked up precisely at the point where the Russians had already lost. So now we are saddled with a ruling coalition that the rest of the Afghans already rejected.

            A search and destroy mission against Al Qaida would have been justified. But if the mission were successful, there would have been no reason at all to attack Iraq.

            So, call that two completely unjustified wars and I also agree 100%.
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          • Author by n'est-ce pas (April 05, 2010 5:08 pm ET)
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            That's Jude Wanniski's "Two Santa Claus" theory in practice. When Republicans are in office, they spend the country into crushing debt, and when the pendulum swings, they scream bloody murder about the deficit. It's an extension of the philosophy of d-bags like Milton Friedman, the "shrink government until it can be drowned in a bathtub" guys who believe that the government's only purpose is to protect big business from the messiness of democracy.
            It's just more evidence that those who do not believe in government cannot be trusted to govern.
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          • Author by IllusionsOfMediaPropaganda (April 05, 2010 5:10 pm ET)
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            20 years? You're giving them too much credit. I don't think we will EVER fully recovery from the mess left behind from Bush 2.
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      • Author by DellDolly (April 05, 2010 10:27 am ET)
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        Anyone who really has any questions about what "Conservatives" want in/want for the USA should read Rachel Maddow's smackdown from last Friday. It's the same things that I say here all the time.

        Here's just a couple of snippets. Please click on the link and read more. You'll miss a lot of good stuff if you don't read the whole thing.

        When Republicans complain President Obama is using recess appointments, they are faking it. Because if they really had a real concern about recess appointments, they wouldn’t have been fine with them when George W. Bush used them. The recess appointments outrage is bull.

        Republicans are faking their outrage over there being an individual mandate in health care reform, too. It’s a Republican idea.

        The Republicans are faking their outrage over terrorism suspects being read their Miranda rights. They had no problem with that when it was done by the previous administration. That fake outrage is bull.


        And

        Nobody expects Americans to share the same political opinions. But has there ever been a time when we shared so few political facts? Let’s argue. Let’s have the great American debate about the role of government and the best policies for the country. It’s fun. It’s citizenship. It’s activism. It makes the country better when we have those debates. And your country needs you. It needs all of us.

        But two things disqualify you from this process: You can’t threaten to shoot people and you have to stop making stuff up.



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    • Author by epkklk851 (April 05, 2010 8:21 am ET)
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      Ronald Reagan was great at spewing saccharine platitudes to create a fantasy vision of an America that never was. Sean Hannity was only about 19 when Reagan was elected. He was one of the many people dazzled by the old man's charm. I was a year older, but a solid Liberal. I saw him speak, I was sitting about 10 feet away from him, but I was not charmed. I saw an old man with what looked like dyed hair, rougued cheeks, and a shaky hand. The man was a hollow idiot.......no wonder Sean identifies with him.
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (April 05, 2010 8:28 am ET)
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      Let's not reality get in the way of of worshiping St Ronnie.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (April 05, 2010 8:35 am ET)
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        I prayed to him and he cured my acne...
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        • Author by epkklk851 (April 05, 2010 8:40 am ET)
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          Easy miracle, but can he cure hemerrhoids and thereby rid the world of the likes of Insanity and Bleck?
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          • Author by IRONY 101 (April 05, 2010 9:07 am ET)
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            Did you know that the statue of Ronald Reagan outside his burial place cries tears? In case you're interested in checking it out for yourself, the miracle usually occurs during the rainy season.
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            • Author by epkklk851 (April 05, 2010 9:55 am ET)
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              I hadn't heard that, I'm surprised the National Enquirer hasn't had a huge article on how the cures everything from hangnails to cancer.
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              • Author by txthinker (April 05, 2010 12:21 pm ET)
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                I hadn't heard that, I'm surprised the National Enquirer hasn't had a huge article on how the cures everything from hangnails to cancer.
                They're too busy printing articles about Tiger Woods' mistrisses, and Kirstie Alley's diets......
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        • Author by worrierking (April 05, 2010 8:55 am ET)
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          A week or so after he was buried, I was at a party at a wingnut friends house. A group of people was talking about the TV coverage of the funeral. A few said thy couldn't get off the couch. They could not take their eyes off the screen. Some had only recently stopped crying. They admitted that they still burst into tears every time they thought of him.

          They asked if I had watched. I told them I had taped it (what we did before we had TIVO and DVRs) and was going to get around to watching it someday.

          I was treated as if i were Robert Mapplethorpe displaying my pictures at Sunday mass.

          I had no idea at the time that so many people had wrapped their heads around the idea of Reagan being some sort of protestant saint.

          It was way beyond creepy.
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          • Author by IRONY 101 (April 05, 2010 9:10 am ET)
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            I thought Reagan resurrected from the dead three days later...or maybe I'm confusing him with some other favorite of the right wing. ;>)
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          • Author by epkklk851 (April 05, 2010 9:29 am ET)
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            Wow, I had no idea. I was still in Korea, so I watched the funeral on AFKN, was it on a Friday? I have memories of watching on a Saturday morning, which would have been Friday evening in California or maybe I taped it. I watched not because I adored Reagan, but because it was history. I was so glad he didn't die in office, I really could not have stood the beatification and a younger, stronger Nancy's "brave widow" gig. (Jacqueline Kennedy was at her best at JFK's funeral, calm dignity under enormous strain.)
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (April 05, 2010 9:35 am ET)
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            Your post is a bunch of heresy and blasphemy, Worrierking. You just haven't seen the light yet. Or maybe you haven't watched the tape.

            Hannity is just demonstrating one of the perks of existing in the Fox bubble where just about everything is completely made up. He worships Reagan, but not the real Reagan, the one that they've re-packaged to conform to Fox standards.

            Remember, a lot of his audience are self-described Christians who worship the Jesus who was sexually aroused by war and who told the poor and sick to suck it up and get out of the money changers' way.
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            • Author by allan.masri1047 (April 05, 2010 4:22 pm ET)
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              The Ronald Reagan I remember is the governor who said the students protesting the Vietnam War should be shot. Since I was one of those protesters, I found it difficult to appreciate his charm.
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (April 05, 2010 9:43 pm ET)
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                I was pretty young when he was my governor, but I had a pretty good BS detector for a kid ( through nature and/or nurture). The Geezer always gave me the creeps.
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        • Author by nativeofsf (April 05, 2010 8:55 am ET)
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          "[C]ured my acne"...? Silly goose, that wasn't acne--
          it was SpaghettiOs®!
          That's the only reason your facial disturbance went away.
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    • Author by bintx (April 05, 2010 8:39 am ET)
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      Hannity knows nothing about the real Reagan. He was a very young man when Reagan was in office. I doubt that he paid much attention to what a bad president Reagan was . . . oh, and for the record, I voted for Reagan . . . TWICE. He was not a good president and he really wasn't that well liked at the time. The revisionist history about this man is astounding. Hannity would say anything to make money.
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      • Author by MickD (April 05, 2010 8:59 am ET)
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        Let thirty years go by and anything seems better. Foxbots don't question history, they just read Seannie's lips.

        And Seannie, how come you haven't been able to lead your Foxbots into real Conservative Victory in the last couple of election cycles? Is it just possible that your propaganda isn't working?
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        • Author by txthinker (April 05, 2010 9:47 am ET)
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          And Seannie, how come you haven't been able to lead your Foxbots into real Conservative Victory in the last couple of election cycles?
          I'm waiting for Sean to lead the authorities to the money he helped steal from his scam charity....
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          • Author by IRONY 101 (April 05, 2010 9:53 am ET)
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            Ironic that Hannity's partner in crime, Ollie North, was Reagan's bag man.
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      • Author by achrispage6992 (April 05, 2010 12:03 pm ET)
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        "He was not a good president and he really wasn't that well liked at the time."

        It makes absolutely no sense to say that a man who was elected in the largest electoral victory of all time was not well liked. Reagan wasn't the best President, but he wasn't the worst either. His domestic polices created some of the worst social problems in our history. Problems that we will be dealing with for generations. But, like it or not, hate him or not, he did renew a sense of pride in America from its citizenry. By 1984, most people could answer "yes" when asked if they were better off than in 1980. I just find it ridiculous to openly deny any positive things he did for this country or positive things that happenned for this country during his reign. I voted for Mondale in 84' and would do it again. I just think we solve nothing by trying to discredit everything about the man. That behavior is no different than Hannity worshiping everything about him.
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        • Author by bintx (April 05, 2010 12:46 pm ET)
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          Sure it does. I didn't like Reagan, but I voted for him instead of Mondale because I felt Mondale wasn't a good choice, either. I voted for him when, intellectually, I knew that he was exhibiting the signs of Alzheimer's. And, for the record, I WASN'T better off in 1984 than I was in 1980. That was a media myth.

          I didn't care for Gore or Kerry, either, but I would have probably slit my wrists before I voted for George W. Bush for ANYTHING [based upon my personal knowledge of his ineptitude]. Obama wasn't my choice, in fact, I wasn't all that excited by the other candidates, either. I voted for Obama over McCain [who was my choice in 2000] because I refused to be party to allowing Sarah Palin NEAR the White House.

          One can vote for a candidate without liking said candidate. Happens all the time. He wasn't the most popular president.

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          • Author by Sharpe (April 06, 2010 6:50 pm ET)
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            Like Adams, Grant, Truman, Eisenhower and LBJ before him, Reagan was a far better president in a historical perspective than he was actually viewed while president according to polls.

            When truman left office, he was arguably the most unpopular president in history. Now, he is often considered one of the top ten best ever. Eisenhower was so centrist in his policies, he couldn't garner the support of either side but is routinely ranked as one of the top ten presidents ever despite never having that kind of appeal during his presidency. LBJ couldn't even find the support to consider running for re-election and ended up tearing apart the democrat party over the vietnam war. LBJ is also considered one of the better presidents in history and gets a better ranking almost every year to the point of nearly breaking into the top ten. John Adams was crushed in his big for a second term by jefferson and won less than 40 percent of the vote but is consistently ranked as one of the better presidents in history despite having terrible appeal at the end of his first term. Grant's administration was racked with scandal and only recently achieved one of the better president ever status after decades of ranking as one of the worst.
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        • Author by rodtanner (April 06, 2010 12:50 pm ET)
             
          Okay, we'll make you a deal. We'll stop discrediting everything about him if you and your ilk will stop elevating him to the level of The Great Orange Hair Messiah.
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        • Author by ilikeike (April 06, 2010 3:33 pm ET)
             
          true but his approval ratings were quite a bit lower when he left office. what I object to about the whole idea of restoring pride in america is this. it implies that America lost its pride during the carter years ,when actually it was a long practise created by many factors including johnstons war in vietnam and watergate.also just because the reagan white house told us they had restored american pride, a lot of conservatives I know were embarrassed by reagan and disgusted by his central american policy of supporting terrorists
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        • Author by Sharpe (April 06, 2010 6:33 pm ET)
             
          He had amazing and terrible approval ratings but was one of only two presidents since the approval rating of president's began that hit his high water mark well after he hit his low water mark. Both reagan and clinton achieved superb approval ratings long after they hit the bottom of the barrel.

          You HAVE to give credit to reagan for reappointing federal reserve chairman paul volcker to the position in 1983. Volcker was perhaps the most brilliant head of the fed in its history charged with the task of combating a recession and inflation, he did a superb almost awe-inspiring job which ultimately resulted in reagan's incredible appeal later in his presidency. Of course, reagan also fired volcker in 1987 but volcker essentially made reagan a far better president than he actually was. In fact, reagan's ridiculous de-regulation which led to the eventual crisis was directly countered by volcker and subsequently led to reagan removing volcker from the position after he spent a decade bringing this country out of some of the most difficult economic predicaments.
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      • Author by Space-Pedestrian (April 05, 2010 6:59 pm ET)
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        No Reagan was never well-liked. He only took 49 states in 1984 because Walter Mondale was a virtual Marcia Coakley.
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        • Author by rodtanner (April 06, 2010 12:53 pm ET)
             
          Actually, I recall that Reagan was well-liked by about half of U.S. voters -- primarily Republicans. He was The Great Polarizer.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (April 05, 2010 10:30 am ET)
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      I've been saying for YEARS that these guys worhip the MYTH of Reagan and that they individual they describe has little in common with the man and the president I remember.

      WELL DONE, MMFA, for putting this article together and summarizing all of these examples.

      And what this REALLY shows in that these so-called "Reagan Republicans" are actually "George W. Bush Republicnas." It's just that Bush was so unpopular that they can't call themselves that. So that have to afix these wreckless and stupid and counterproductive policies to a more popular figure.

      They're so quick to distance themselves from BUSH, but do you notice how they never distance themselves from BUSH'S POLICIES? NEWSFLASH TO CONSERVTAIVES: BUSH wasn't the problem! His policies, which you lot still cling to, were the problem! His presidency was not a failure becuase of the man himself, or the evil news-media. It was a failure becuase the POLICIES THEMSELVES were failures, and could never being anything BUT failures. The only part of the blame that belongs to BUSH was that he was too stupid to realize this sooner and change course!

      In any case, those who still cling to them, are no better than Bush. A better man would not have made these garbage policies successful.

      ------------------------------------------------------
      It's about time you moved on.

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    • Author by onementalgiant (April 05, 2010 10:34 am ET)
         
      RR will be remebered as one of our worst presidents
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    • Author by puttforever4682 (April 05, 2010 10:38 am ET)
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      I admit that I voted for Reagan the first time, but in those four years I learned that he did not act like he talked. He did not spend less in the budget like many republicans believed and he did not cut the waste fraud and abuse he was so fond of rebuking the dems with.

      Most damning was the tax law he and Dole cooked up in 1976 i believe when middle class tax breaks were systematically eviscerated,(Income averaging, interest write offs on car loans, even personal exemption for working college students was taken.
      The second time around I did not fall for his blather.

      After his funeral my Alma Mater had a special panel discussion about the Reagan years which Hannity would have approved of. I explained to the solicitation person at my university that my contributions would have to take a hiatus until the record on Reagan became more in line with the truth.
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      • Author by OilemFirchen (April 07, 2010 11:47 am ET)
           
        1986.

        And the Investment Tax Credit, which had helped my business keep afloat. Every EOY, we'd double our sales as clients loaded up on equipment in time to take the year's credit.

        When it went away, so did my business. There were, of course, other factors, but the ITC repeal was the literal last straw.
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    • Author by Manhattan (April 05, 2010 11:21 am ET)
         
      Very good research. Even to a libertarian who tends to side with conservatives nowadays, Hannity's hypocrisy is blantant.
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    • Author by little poncho (April 05, 2010 11:23 am ET)
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      cowboy ronnie, was nothing but a wannabee cowboy......a lot of AMERICANS' lost their homes because of ronnie's resession....I am very glad I didn't waste my vote on ronnie........ Wake up AMERICA, ronnie is gone, we cannot live in the past like klannity, wants us to believe!!!!!!!!!!!AMERICA, is in the year of 2010,of PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA, not the past cowboy, sorry klannity...........
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    • Author by Porkeater (April 05, 2010 11:35 am ET)
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      I believe that one of Reagan's worst faults was the huge gap between rhetoric and behavior; this is what today's GOP learned from him. They know what people want to hear, and they say it. Their objective is to win power, not to govern well.
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    • Author by Jeremy Danials (April 05, 2010 11:49 am ET)
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      I was in a local grocery store, when I saw this book on the shelf. On it's first day on the shelf, it was marked down 25%. Of course, it was the same as Glennbeckistan's waste of paper. That says something to me, actually.

      I picked up Handjob's book and read the back cover. the only words out of my mind that went to my mouth were " Lie, Lie, Lie, Lie, Lie, Lie, Lie, Lie..." If this foolishly foolish fool could ever tell the truth, I'd be shocked.

      Also, I am surprised we haven't heard from our resident kooks on this.
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    • Author by alienofwar (April 05, 2010 12:00 pm ET)
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      Everyone on here should read "Tear Down This Myth" and get a more thorough argument about how modern Conservatives have completely took Reagan out of context and how they are turning him into a mythological father figure of the Conservative movement.

      By the way, Hannity is a complete hypocrite...he accused Liberals of treating President Obama like a Messiah and a celebrity when it's exactly what modern Conservatives have been doing with Reagan's legacy and on top of that HE ACTUALLY WAS a celebrity in real life. The contradiction's here would be laughing out hilarious if only this kind of rhetoric wasn't destroying our country.
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      • Author by achrispage6992 (April 05, 2010 12:09 pm ET)
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        That is an excellent point. I have never thought about that way. Thanks for the insight.
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      • Author by Jeremy Danials (April 05, 2010 4:34 pm ET)
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        I read that book, and found that it was spot-on. But Handjob would never admit this.
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      • Author by ex-punk (April 06, 2010 1:48 am ET)
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        You are right about "Tear Down This Myth." That should be required reading for high school students. Also in "The Limits Of Power," by Andrew Bacevich, who calls himself a conservative Republican, he states that in the debate between Reagan and Carter, Carter pointed out all the problems that we need to fix: middle east, oil, global warming, health care and Reagan made fun of them. Reagan told the people what they wanted to hear. Carter told the people what they needed to hear and we still haven't gotten much accomplished. After looking at events over the years, Bacevich concluded that Carter was the true conservative and Reagan was the father of the modern day radical spend and borrow Republicans.
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    • Author by voltaire (April 05, 2010 1:34 pm ET)
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      In the immortal words of Nigel Tufnel, "That's just nitpicking, isn't it?"
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    • Author by Bulletproof Air (April 05, 2010 1:42 pm ET)
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      Hannity has gotten the pass because everyone focuses on Glenn Beck so much.

      Hannity, quite often, is more nonsensical and inflammatory than Beck is.

      Beck is nuts...only a certain type of person can tolerate him....but Hannity is somebody that tends to appeal to a broader audience, and the fact that he seemingly still has his sanity YET persists with his illogical and contradicting ideologue, comparable to the insane rantings of Beck, really serves to misinform...


      I also am curious on how far an investigation will peer into his and his buddy Oliver North's "charity" fraud. But you'll never hear about it on Fox...
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    • Author by newzhound (April 05, 2010 1:50 pm ET)
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      MM4A: Don't forget "Iran-Contra." It's impossible to believe in the United States Constitution and at the same time support Ollie North's harebrained scheme.

      How about WedTech and the other, numerous, scandals of Mr. Reagan's administrations? Does InSannity think all those were good ideas, as well?
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      • Author by Malik Nidal (April 05, 2010 3:58 pm ET)
           
        Iran Contra was a "win-win-win"!!!

        -The Israelis sold some TOW missiles to pro-US elements in the Iranian military so they could kill other Muslims. WIN!

        - Those Iranians pulled strings to have Hezbollah release US hostages held in Lebanon. WIN!

        - The US sold Israel replacement TOW missiles at a profit and used the profits to fund the Contra's successful effort to topple a brutal, unelected Communist junta in Nicaragua. WIN!

        Ollie North is a tremendous American Patriot!!!

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    • Author by angels4light (April 05, 2010 2:04 pm ET)
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      How about this for a final nail (I hope) in the coffin that is Hannity and his hypocrisy?

      I admire President Reagan (may he rest in peace). Hannity? Well, the word for him does have a d, i and e, not in that order, but there is no a, m or r.
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    • Author by Malik Nidal (April 05, 2010 3:53 pm ET)
         
      Reagan was a God-send!

      He brought America back from the Jimmy Carter nightmare & "Misery Index" that'd given us 10% unemployment, 13.5% inflation, 21% interest rates and a "Hollow Force" military.

      Reagan created 21 million new jobs, defeated the Soviet Union, and restored American pride.

      It's a shame the Bushies and Clinton squandered The Peace Dividend". Still, defeating the Soviet Union by out-spending them and confronting them both militarily and diplomatically set Reagan's place in history as the Greatest President of the 20th century.

      Reagan was a giant and a true patriot.

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    • Author by wootton_752714 (April 05, 2010 6:05 pm ET)
         
      Isn't it a bit worrying to look back and find that Reagan seems fairly rational by todays standards?
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    • Author by albertsenj (April 06, 2010 1:18 am ET)
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      Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill was told "deficits don't matter" when he warned of a looming fiscal crisis.

      O'Neill, fired in a shakeup of Bush's economic team in December 2002, raised objections to a new round of tax cuts and said the president balked at his more aggressive plan to combat corporate crime after a string of accounting scandals because of opposition from "the corporate crowd," a key constituency.

      O'Neill said he tried to warn Vice President Dick Cheney that growing budget deficits-expected to top $500 billion this fiscal year alone-posed a threat to the economy. Cheney cut him off. "You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don't matter," he said, according to excerpts. Cheney continued: "We won the midterms (congressional elections). This is our due." A month later, Cheney told the Treasury secretary he was fired.

      The vice president's office had no immediate comment, but John Snow, who replaced O'Neill, insisted that deficits "do matter" to the administration.
      Source: [X-ref O'Neill] Adam Entous, Reuters, on AOL News Jan 11, 2004
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    • Author by Reinhard (April 06, 2010 8:10 am ET)
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      Isn't Reagan the same guy who hated blacks? Isn;t Reagan the same guy who knocked up his mistress then divorced his wife to marry said mistress? Isn't this the same old geezer that referred to his wife as "mommy"? Isn't this the same old geezer that ran his presidency with the help of his wife's psychics? Isn't Raygun the same man who raised taxes, on more than one occasion?

      Some hero.
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    • Author by Sharpe (April 06, 2010 6:27 pm ET)
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      When hannity and faux says judicial activism, they mean judicial decisions that contradict their own personal opinion and not those that contradict court or legislative precedent as the term actually means.

      And when hannity says reagan conservative, he fails to realize that today's right wing and particularly, the right wingnuts as hannity is, falls a far ways away from the reagan administration. There delusional concept of history is almost as laughable as their delusional concept of reality.
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