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Dubious Doocy: Poll found "majority" of tea partiers are Dems or independents

April 19, 2010 10:52 am ET — 18 Comments

Fox & Friends co-host Steve Doocy claimed that a "majority" of tea-party supporters in a recent poll identified themselves as Democrats or independents. Although Doocy did not specify which poll he was discussing, recent polling by the Winston Group found that 57 percent of tea-party supporters identified themselves as Republicans.

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Doocy repeatedly says poll found tea-party majority to be Dems and independents

Doocy: "[W]hen you look at the people who are tea-party members, over half of them are Democrat and independent." From the April 19 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

DOOCY: [B]efore I went on vacation, I know we had that poll that showed that when you look at the people who are tea-party members, over half of them are Democrat and independent, and they know those midterm elections are coming. They've got to be nice to all those people who are going to pull that lever.

Doocy: "[T]he people who identified themselves as being members of the tea party ... a majority of them are Democrat and independent." Later in the same edition of Fox & Friends, Doocy said:

[A]s we've seen from some recent polls, apparently, the people who identified themselves as being members of the tea party or pro-tea-party people are -- a majority of them are Democrat and independent. And, in fact, there are more Democrats and independents combined than Republicans in the tea party, and so that's why it's so potent.

Winston Group: "57% of Tea Party members say they are Republican"

Polling found 41 percent of "Tea Party members" -- substantially less than a majority -- were independents or Democrats. The Winston Group conducted a series of surveys monthly from December 2009 through February 2010. The Hill described the Winston Group as "a Republican-leaning firm that conducted the surveys on behalf of an education advocacy group." In an April 1 memo about the results of its polling, the Winston Group stated:

Politically, it comes as no surprise that more Republicans and conservatives tend to be drawn to the Tea Party movement. However, independents make up a sizable portion of the Tea Party movement as well. While 57% of Tea Party members say they are Republican, another 28% say they are independent. Additionally, 13% identify themselves as Democrats.

The memo included a table of the results by party identification:

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    • Author by The_Cat (April 19, 2010 10:59 am ET)
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      I think I see what's happening here. Steve Doocy, along with FOX Propaganda and folks like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, are suddenly afraid that they will no longer be able to control the teabaggers, and that said teabaggers may in fact indulge in violence, especially against the government, which, of course, has been called everything from alien to evil to socialist to Satan himself.

      So, this is really just the beginning flailing effort to not only distance themselves from an astroturf movement THEY HELPED CREATE, but further to blame it on the opposing political party, just in case there are any untoward acts of violence.

      That personal responsibility thing's a bear, ain't it, Doocy?
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      • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© (April 19, 2010 11:07 am ET)
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        I wonder how many don't call themselves Republicans because they don't think the Republican party is conservative enough.
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      • Author by terrapin53 (April 19, 2010 11:08 am ET)
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        The_Cat, you are right. I have noticed more and more the right setting up the scenario that if there is right wing violence, it will be the left's fault. The right will bear no responsibility.
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    • Author by MidnightWriter (April 19, 2010 11:10 am ET)
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      This is like arguing that Pete Rose and Pete Rose Jr. were the most potent father and son combination ever to play Major League Baseball because they together collected a career hits total that exceed that of any other father and son pairing that made it to the big leagues.

      Pete Rose--4,256 career hits. Pete Rose Jr.--2.

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    • Author by shaggles (April 19, 2010 11:21 am ET)
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      Why are they always trying to lump independants and Dems into one group? Most independants that I know are cons who got frustrated with the Repulican party for various reasons. It would make more sense to lump them with the Reps.
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      • Author by thaneb (April 19, 2010 12:05 pm ET)
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        Can't recall a specific instance, but they probably have lumped independents with Republicans when it suited their argument.
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    • Author by allan.masri1047 (April 19, 2010 12:39 pm ET)
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      Doocy must be using the results of a "private" poll whose results are only available to subscribers.

      Regardless of who claims to be a teabagger, the teabag party is bought and paid for by the Republican party, probably because the party itself is too unpopular to lead anything openly.

      Doocy and other Republican hacks are trying to make people believe just the opposite, that teabaggers are a grass-roots organization made up of just plain folks. They certainly are not publicizing the wingnuts behind the Teabag Express or admitting that Fox itself is simply a mouthpiece for the Republican party.

      My guess is that the Republicans are currently throwing the teabaggers under the bus, cutting off funding and limiting publicity, because they have outlived their usefulness. The Republicans have to make sure the teabagging sheep are back in the fold before the November elections.
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    • Author by Lizinbklyn (April 19, 2010 1:28 pm ET)
         
      Docuchey proably meant that they were identified at a recent "POLL"

      Yeah, that's it . .
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    • Author by denbengerman (April 19, 2010 1:50 pm ET)
         
      Another lie from Fox News. What a shock. And, did anyone notice that the female in the group implied that there were no tax cuts by saying the teapartiers were complaining about their taxes increasing? Lies, distortions, subtle digs, and misdirections aimed at a gullible audience feed the goal of Fox News, and that is to destroy legitimate news and turn Fox News from just plain old manipulative propaganda to thee source for information. Did Murdock study under Kim Jong-il? Me thinks it's too much a coincidence that the disseminations of "news" from each are so similar.
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    • Author by newhenri (April 19, 2010 2:06 pm ET)
         
      Actually Mr.Doocy is probably referring to the Gallup tea party poll published April 5th. According to the poll more of them do identify themselves as Independents and Democrats combined than Republicans alone. Whereas this is true it is a mistake to conclude that the tea party crowd represents a wide range of ideological views.

      The reason is that we often assume that that conservative = Republican, moderate = Independents, and liberal = Democrat. This is not the case with the tea party crowd.

      Gallup also ask the respondents to identify themselves ideologically 70% identify themselves as conservatives (the national average is 40%), 22% identify themselves as moderates (the national average is 38%), and 7% identify themselves as liberals (the national average is 21%).

      The conclusion here is that a significant number of the tea partiers are not moderates but rather disgruntled conservatives (something you see immediately if you listen to what people say at these events).

      Whereas the tea party movement is demographically representative (income, education, etc.) it is not ideologically representative. It is a predominantly conservative movement, plain and simple.
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    • Author by newhenri (April 19, 2010 2:08 pm ET)
         
      I forgot to add the link to the gallup poll in my last comment: http://tinyurl.com/y2rf5sh.
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    • Author by stevensm (April 19, 2010 3:21 pm ET)
         
      Doocy needs to be sent to remedial math class as the Dem/Indy numbers do not add up to a majority. Anyone else notice Doocy and crew never seem to mention to the audience that the poll results show that the tea partiers' makeup of 57 Repub far exceeds the number of Repubs in the general population? And how the number of Dems in the tea party are way under-represented when compared to the general population? Looks like the truth is too much of an inconvenient truth for Doocy to handle.
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    • Author by Bucket Fishing (April 19, 2010 4:10 pm ET)
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      Not getting off you ass to vote does not make you an independent.
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    • Author by YouTubeJEFF9K (April 20, 2010 3:51 pm ET)
         
      I was at the Tea Party in Cleveland last week. There were many pro-Reagan signs and many anti-Obama signs, but no anti-Republican or pro-Democratic signs. There were speakers who sounded exactly like Sarah Palin, and criticized Democrats. If any Democrats were there they were undercover. See pictures I took at JEFF9K.blogspot.com
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