See no evil: Hannity, Palin dismiss concerns about racial profiling in AZ law
Fox News figures Sean Hannity and Sarah Palin have rejected concerns that Arizona's new immigration law will lead to racial profiling because the law says police may not "solely" consider "race, color or national origin ... except to the extent permitted by the United States or Arizona Constitution." However, the law does allow for race to be a consideration, and legal experts, as well as several Fox News figures and prominent conservatives, have argued that this will lead to some form of racial profiling.
Hannity, Palin dismiss concerns that AZ law could lead to civil rights violations
Hannity: "[R]acial profiling is explicitly prohibited." Hannity stated on the April 27 edition of his Fox News program: "Now, [if] protesters actually sat down to read the law, they would find that racial profiling is explicitly prohibited." Hannity later added, "It does not encourage profiling. It specifically prohibits it."
Palin: "There is no ability or opportunity in there for the racial profiling." Appearing on the April 27 edition of Hannity, Fox News contributor Sarah Palin stated that "[t]here is no ability or opportunity in there for the racial profiling. And shame on the lame stream media again for turning this into something that it is not." Palin added, "I think it's shameful, too, that the Obama administration has allowed, too, this to become more of a racial issue by perpetuating this myth that racial profiling is a part of this law."
Kobach: "[T]he law actually reduces the likelihood of racial profiling." University of Missouri law professor Kris Kobach, who helped draft SB 1070 and is running as a Republican for Kansas secretary of state, wrote in a April 28 Washington Times op-ed that by requiring officers "to contact the federal government to verify a person's immigration status," the law "takes any consideration of race out of the equation." From the op-ed:
Myth No. 2: The law will encourage racial profiling. The terms of the act make clear that such profiling cannot occur. Section 2 provides that a law enforcement official "may not solely consider race, color, or national origin" in making any stops or determining an alien's immigration status. In addition, all of the normal Fourth Amendment protections against racial profiling still apply.
Moreover, the law actually reduces the likelihood of racial profiling by forcing police officers to contact the federal government to verify a person's immigration status when they suspect a person is an illegal alien. It already was permissible for police officers across the country to make arrests for violations of federal immigration law where reasonable suspicion existed that a violation had occurred. Now, in Arizona, officers will have to make a phone call to Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) 24/7 hot line to confirm that any aliens in their custody really are present unlawfully. Officers can no longer proceed based solely on their own assessment of a person's immigration status. In this way, the Arizona law takes any consideration of race out of the equation - strengthening the protections against racial profiling.
AZ law allows police to take race into account
AZ law: Law enforcement "may not solely consider race, color or national origin...except to the extent permitted by the United States or Arizona Constitution." SB 1070 states:
For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of this state or a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person, except if the determination may hinder or obstruct an investigation. Any person who is arrested shall have the person's immigration status determined before the person is released. The person's immigration status shall be verified with the federal government pursuant to 8 United States code section 1373(c). A law enforcement official or agency of this state or a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state may not solely consider race, color or national origin in implementing the requirements of this subsection except to the extent permitted by the United States or Arizona Constitution.
Gov. Brewer: "I do not know what an illegal immigrant looks like." As Newsweek reported on April 27, "the statute fails to specify any characteristics or behaviors that law enforcement should focus on to determine whether there's a reasonable suspicion that someone is in the country illegally." During a press conference, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer stated, "I do not know what an illegal immigrant looks like." She added that "I know if AZPOST (Arizona Peace Officer Standards and Training Board) gets theirselves together, works on this law, puts down the description, that the law will be enforced civilly, fairly, and without discriminatory points to it." AZPOST is tasked with creating guidelines for law enforcement to use when implementing SB 1070.
No consensus on a definition for racial profiling
Janet Napolitano: Some define "any reliance on race/ethnicity" as racial profiling; others say "sole reliance on race/ethnicity" constitutes profiling. In a 2001 report, then-Arizona Attorney General Janet Napolitano stated:
It is essential to first define racial profiling as a legal term of art in order to seek recommendations for its eradication. There are essentially two views among law enforcement agencies and civil rights organizations in defining prohibited conduct in stopping or arresting an individual: any reliance on race/ethnicity (the broad definition); or sole reliance on race/ethnicity (the narrow definition).
ACLU: Narrow definition of racial profiling is "unacceptable" because it "would eliminate the vast majority of racial profiling now occurring." The American Civil Liberties Union stated in 2005 that defining racial profiling "as relying 'solely' on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin or religion" would "eliminate the vast majority of racial profiling now occurring":
Defining racial profiling as relying "solely" on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin or religion can be problematic. This definition found in some state racial profiling laws is unacceptable, because it fails to include when police act on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin or religion in combination with an alleged violation of all law. Under the "solely" definition, an officer who targeted Latino drivers who were speeding would not be racial profiling because the drivers were not stopped "solely" because of their race but also because they were speeding. This would eliminate the vast majority of racial profiling now occurring.
Many legal experts question how law will be enforced without some form of racial profiling
James Doty: New law is "vulnerable to the argument that it essentially criminalizes walking while Hispanic." Lawyer James Doty wrote on April 26 that "no one has come up" with an answer to the question, " What do illegal immigrants look like? " that doesn't invoke ethnicity. Doty further wrote: "The new law, on its face, doesn't make racial distinctions, but its supporters haven't articulated any other grounds for suspecting that someone is an unlawful resident. It is, therefore, vulnerable to the argument that it essentially criminalizes walking while Hispanic," and that "[t]he law seems to require that officers demand documentation from suspected aliens based on mere hunches -- a clear violation of the Constitution."
U.S. Civil Rights Commissioner: "[I]t is reasonable to presume that the first threshold test will be whether a person looks to be of Mexican or Latino descent. Period." Michael Yaki, an attorney and member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, wrote on April 26:
What kind of "suspicious" characteristics will law enforcement be looking for? Judging by the zealous defense offered by commenters that Arizona shares a border with Mexico, it is reasonable to presume that the first threshold test will be whether a person looks to be of Mexican or Latino descent. Period. Argue against it all you want, but the undeniable, irrefutable fact is that skin color and ethnic heritage is the numero uno feature that will trigger further inquiries by Arizona cops. Doesn't matter if you've been here 30 years or 30 seconds -- you are fair game under the law. And give me any other "characteristic" of the so-called typical illegal immigrant, and I can show you a red-blooded native-born American who will fit the same bill.
University of Arizona law professor: "If you look Mexican or Hispanic or Asian or Black, then you should carry ID." University of Arizona law professor Gabriel Chin responded to the question, " Do I need to have my ID card on me at all times in case an officer suspects I'm in the country illegally?" by stating:
If the person was born in Mexico and doesn't have satisfactory identification, I would think there is probable cause to arrest that person for violation of this section: There is evidence they are not a U.S. citizen (foreign birth), they do not have any evidence they are authorized to live in the United States. . . . I would say the answer is: If you look Mexican or Hispanic or Asian or Black, then you should carry ID because there's already some evidence that you could fall into this category.
Immigration attorney William Sanchez: "How do you determine that you have reasonable suspicion that someone may have violated an immigration law?" During the April 24 edition of CNN Newsroom, immigration attorney William Sanchez stated, "How do you determine that you have reasonable suspicion that someone may have violated an immigration law?" Sanchez added, "The color of the skin and the way they dress and the actions and places they go, the language that they speak. It allows for racial profiling, unquestionably."
ASU law professor: SB 1070 "is almost inevitably going to be enforced in a racially discriminatory way." The Arizona Republic reported that Paul Bender, a professor of law at Arizona State University's Sandra Day O'Connor College of Law stated, "That is almost inevitably going to be enforced in a racially discriminatory way, because how are the police going to have a 'reasonable suspicion' that you're here illegally?" Bender further said, "They're not going to ask every Anglo that they stop for speeding to show their immigration documents. If they did, we wouldn't have them and we'd all go to jail. They're going to ask the people who look Hispanic. Some of them are not going to have them, and they are going to be arrested."
Arizona attorney: SB 1070 allows "racial profiling and discrimination, as long as the government is not 100 percent racially motivated." The New York Times reported, "Julie Pace, an Arizona lawyer who brought suit challenging the 2007 law, issued, with her colleagues, an analysis of the new law arguing that 'the word 'solely' makes this purported anti-discrimination provision an authorization to allow racial profiling and discrimination, as long as the government is not 100 percent racially motivated.'"
Georgetown law professor: "In practice, it is inevitable that this law will lead to racial profiling." Newsweek reported that David Cole, Georgetown University Law Center professor said, "In practice, it is inevitable that this law will lead to racial profiling." Cole further stated, "People don't wear signs saying that they are illegal immigrants, nor do illegal immigrants engage in any particular behavior that distinguishes them from legal immigrants and citizens. So police officers will not stop white people, and will stop Latinos, especially poor Latinos."
Conservatives, including several on Fox News, have expressed concerns about the law leading to racial profiling
Jeb Bush: "It's difficult for me to imagine how you're going to enforce this law." Politico reported on April 27 that former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush stated of the Arizona law: "I think it creates unintended consequences," and that "It's difficult for me to imagine how you're going to enforce this law. It places a significant burden on local law enforcement and you have civil liberties issues that are significant as well."
Marco Rubio: SB 1070 could "unreasonably single out people who are here legally, including many American citizens." Florida Senate candidate Marco Rubio stated, "From what I have read in news reports, I do have concerns about this legislation. While I don't believe Arizona's policy was based on anything other than trying to get a handle on our broken borders, I think aspects of the law, especially that dealing with 'reasonable suspicion,' are going to put our law enforcement officers in an incredibly difficult position. It could also unreasonably single out people who are here legally, including many American citizens."
Huckabee: "[T]here is no such thing" as "American looking." During the April 24 broadcast of Fox News' Fox & Friends Saturday, Mike Huckabee stated, "They're going to get sued. I predict they're going to lose. Because if you stop somebody and say, you know, he just doesn't look American to me, what does that mean? Walk the streets of New York and tell me, how do you know who's the American-looking, because there is no such thing."
Krauthammer: "[I]t could lead to a lot of civil rights abuses." Conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer stated on the April 21 edition of Fox News' Special Report with Bret Baier that states are "trying to pass laws where you catch somebody already in the U.S. and it's really hard to discern who is and who is not illegal. Look, if you're at the border and somebody is climbing over the fence, you have a pretty high certainty it's an illegal. Now if somebody is standing outside a Home Depot who doesn't speak English, well he could be or he could not be. So it could lead to a lot of civil rights abuses. But the problem is ultimately that the feds haven't acted."
Andrew Napolitano: "The law has to have standards in it" or "there would be a different standard for each police officer." During the April 27 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano stated, "Think about it. The police are going to stop somebody on the basis of where they look and say I think you're here illegally, give me your papers." He added, "The problem with the law is that it's subjective. What's reasonable suspicion to you might be unreasonable suspicion to me. The law has to have standards in it. Otherwise police could stop people for any reason they wanted and there would be a different standard for each police officer. That's the importance of that question to the governor. Can you tell and illegal alien from a legal alien by looking at them? She said of course I can't. Neither can the police."
Fox News figures and others have endorsed racial profiling
Cafferty: "[C]ritics say that would lead to racial profiling. Well, so what?" During the April 20 broadcast of CNN's The Situation Room, Jack Cafferty stated, "The state senate has passed a tough new immigration law that will force police to arrest people who can't prove they're in the country legally. Now critics say that would lead to racial profiling. Well, so what?" Cafferty added, "The state's governor has five days to either veto the bill or sign it into law. Do the right thing, governor."
Crowder: Nothing wrong with law's racial profiling. During the April 23 edition of Fox News' Hannity, Fox News contributor Steven Crowder said that there's racial profiling in the law and "I don't think there's really anything wrong as far as racial profiling, stopping people who are coming in illegally. I mean, you're not looking for a blond haired, blue eyed Swede most of the time."
Gutfeld: Racial profiling a no-brainer. On the April 21 edition of Fox News' Hannity, Red Eye host Greg Gutfeld said of the law: "A lot of the critics are saying this is racial profiling. Duh! They're coming from another country. That's what you do. You have to look at them and see who they are before you know they're legal or illegal. I don't think that's a fair criticism."
Gallagher dismisses racial profiling concerns. On the April 23 edition of his Salem Radio program, radio host and Fox News contributor Mike Gallagher told Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace, "Sign it, baby, sign it" and that the Arizona legislature is his "new hero." After Wallace noted concerns about civil liberties, Gallagher said that "it's racial profiling, to be sure, cops know if there's a van full of dark-skinned men with lawnmowers packed into the back of a pick-up truck...that's what they're talking about."














That is very troubling and reason enough for me to oppose this law.
Hannity and Palin can't be bothered with their own credibility, it doesn't exist.
I'll walk you through this one step at a time.
1- 1070 states clearly that State agents are to adhere to the constitution.
2- The constitution clearly states that profiling is illegal. 4th ammendment.
3- Terry vs. Ohio clearly allows reasonable suspicion as cause for search and seizure.
4- Terry vs. Ohio also defines the judicial constraints placed on law enforcement. Meaning being brown, or profuse sweating, nervousness, walking to the corner market, are not considered reasonable suspicion.
The left tried to make this a racist issue. IT ISN"T. The left tried to make this NAZI legislation. IT ISN"T. The left likes to suck government tit, IT DOES.
I hear your frustration and I share it. If the feds would have handled this issue, their obligation, then there would have been no need for this law. But you can't blame the libs either. Bush was in charge for 8 years and what? Border enforcement sucked, it wasn't on his radar at all. You can't pin this on Obama. We need serious politicians who will commit to securing our borders first. No talk of amnesty or comprehensive baloney until that is done, enforce the laws on the books.
That is very troubling and reason enough for me to oppose this law.
Hannity and Palin can't be bothered with their own credibility, it doesn't exist. ---RO
So you can call it racial profiling and it doesn't change what it is which described as a cop being able to pull someone over if they feel like it. Then like the slimeball you are go on to agree with this:
When I get pulled over what does a cop ask me for? Also, I don't think there are a lot of illegal irish people in Arizona but if there were the law applies to them to. If the federal government won't inforce the law, who does? I comes down to the states. So, I ask you libs how you would go about inforcing current immigration law?---SH
I will wait next time for I agree with anything you have you to say. Fool me once.
You and I probably agree on 90% of the issue, I just don't agree with this law for the reasons I stated. And I am very familiar with those who charge racism right out of the gate, no matter what. There are undoubtedly slimy racists who want to keep out immigrants because of their skin color, but many of us who want secure borders and our laws enforced are not. Unfounded racist accusations are as scurrilous as it comes, no argument from me on that.--RO
Either this bill is a bill of racial profiling and racist or it is not. The accusations of racism about this bill are real or not. They are not unfounded.
Of course, race hustling victicrats like you live and breath race every moment of your life, and unless someone shares your every obsessive racially motivated breath, they are a hypocrite.
Wallow in your whine if you'd like. I don't care to join in. Now, grow up.
"...Maricopa County, in which Phoenix is located, is all too familiar with the problem of racial profiling. Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is subject of a Department of Justice investigation into rampant allegations of racial profiling and discrimination and has been named in 2,700 lawsuits. In North Carolina, researchers found that 287(g)’s have “created a climate of racial profiling and community insecurity” in communities across the state. According to a report by the ACLU, racial profiling in Gwinnet County, Georgia has been exacerbated by the 287(g) program. The ACLU received complaints from drivers, pedestrians, and Gwinnett community members showing that police officers are targeting immigrants and people of color for stops, searches, and interrogations.
A representative at ICE told 3TV that the incident was “standard operating procedure.” According to the spokesperson, the agents “needed to verify Abdon was in the country legally and it is not uncommon to ask for someone’s birth certificate.” Abdon’s wife however, has a different take, stating, “It doesn’t feel like it’s a good way of life, to live with fear, even though we are okay, we are legal…still have to carry documents around.”
http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/04/26/racial-profiling-arizona/
Now go change your Depends.
You feed off it as much as a real racist feeds off their own hatred. I hope you're proud of yourself.
Immigration attorney William Sanchez: "How do you determine that you have reasonable suspicion that someone may have violated an immigration law?"
Arizona attorney: SB 1070 allows "racial profiling and discrimination, as long as the government is not 100 percent racially motivated."
Georgetown law professor: "In practice, it is inevitable that this law will lead to racial profiling."
Jeb Bush: "It's difficult for me to imagine how you're going to enforce this law."
Huckabee: "[T]here is no such thing" as "American looking."
Krauthammer: "[I]t could lead to a lot of civil rights abuses."
Andrew Napolitano: "The law has to have standards in it" or "there would be a different standard for each police officer."
All quotations are from the above article.
"...That is why people like you are invested in keeping it alive and will gleefully use your charge of racism, warranted or not..."--RO
Those who are blind to it will never get it. I don't have to create racism it has never left us and this bill is a perfect example of why we must be always vigilant and fight it whenever and wherever we see it and yes I'am very proud of that fact.
Since white conservatives have never felt the sting of racism, they naturally claim it doesn't exist. They should ask their friends of color, if they have any. I can't imagine any African-American denying that racism exists.
#1 problem: NAFTA and CAFTA these trade agreements have devastated Mexican farmers as well as brought increasing problems here.
#2 problem: process of obtaining legal status cumbersome, takes years, is arbitrary, many people wind up re-submitting their paperwork numerous times.
#3 problem: Employers who hire illegals for cheap labor.
#4 problem: Mexican government is corrupt; uses illegal immigration as a safety valve to maintain their regime. Run by oligarchy.
So true Mary and hardly ever mentioned is the effect NAFTA and CAFTA had in bankrupting thousands of Mexican farmers particularly corn growers. And to your point 4 we also have alot of culpablity there and this safety valve has been used to maintain a government more to our favor next to our borders. What would you think would happen if Mexico really tried to fix things and turned away from US imperial interest? Remember Nicaragua and the Sandinistas?
Furthermore, many citizens seem not to realize that we have three branches of government, and that nothing gets to the president's desk before it clears both Houses of Congress. The first thing many people do is say it's President Obama's fault if this or that doesn't get done when they think it should, and they ignore the Constitutional mandate that all legislation begins in Congress. Citizens must understand that they cannot demand that the president act like a dictator on the one hand, and on the other hand, when he doesn't act like a dictator, blame him for not doing it. IMHO, it establishes a Catch 22. citizens who understand what the Constitution says about the way this government has to operate would realize this. No president can sign any piece of legislation until it passes both Houses of Congress, and this is where the problem lies in getting anything done.
We need comprehensive immigration reform. Sealing our borders, or enforcing the laws we have on the books won't do it. Much more is necessary.
We need acknowledgement that we have to have workers in our nation who come from Mexico and other Central American countries in order for our economy to work well. That's the biggest thing.
Employers who hire illegals need heavy fines and/or jail time.
So I, personally, don't want to hear any phony talk about comprehensive baloney until we enforce the laws on the books now, border security first, foremost and ONLY. For now. Until that is demonstrated to be the priority and in place, no talk of amnesty, or a "reasonable path to legal status".
It failed miserably before, it will again. Politicians are too spineless to believe otherwise.
I didn't particularly speak about those already here illegally. But they must be addressed. You have offered no solutions for dealing with them. If you really believe "we" can find them all somehow, even with spending all those tax dollars (which you hate to do) you're drinking early.
First, crack down on employers, make it difficult for them. Then, require that anyone applying for legal U.S. residency apply from Mexico. If they have been documented as an illegal here previously, they must pay a fine or somehow be penalized to give preference to those who have not. And the path to citizenship and residency MUST be streamlined and the same for everyone--not arbitrary, capricious and draconian as it is now.
one of my best friends lives in tuscon and married a mexican woman who is a legal citizen here.
what are you gonna to her when she gets stopped and have her papers demanded of her?
And where does a native born US Citizen get a card. Why would they have to carry one anyway? Unless you think that we all need to carry a card. That sounds like a National ID Card to me.
Racial Profiling Already A Problem In Arizona Before The Bill Was Signed Into Law
Shortly after signing Arizona’s draconian immigration bill into law, Gov. Jan Brewer (R-AZ) attempted to ease concerns about civil rights abuses, stating that she “will NOT tolerate racial discrimination or racial profiling in Arizona.” The truth is, she already is.
Arizona’s 3TV News reports that a U.S. citizen Latino commercial truck driver was pulled over at a weight scale check spot and handcuffed and detained at the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) building in Phoenix until his wife came and provided both of their birth certificates. Abdon, who did not want to use his last name, said that though he provided his drivers license and his Social Security Number, police officers wanted more proof that he was legally present in the country. Abdon believes that he was ultimately “targeted for his race and forced to provide his birth certificate.” Watch the 3TV report (starts at 2:16):
http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/04/26/racial-profiling-arizona/
Of course everyone with a functioning brain cell knows the NAZI only used the term "socialist" in their name to fool the German people who at that point in time were hungering for socialism. NAZI's didn't have anything to do with progressives or socialism which is why the first people who were arrested were communist and socialist.
Funny you should mention that. McCain pledges amnesty for 50,000 illegal Irish immigrants.
AND, neither of them say anything that even resembles facts so it's easy to ignore the content of the segment... the mute button on ANY teevee works great...
let's do a little criminal profiling on that score.
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– The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset “the equilibrium of the national demographics.” How’s that for racial and ethnic profiling?
– If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome. Neither are those who show “contempt against national sovereignty or security.” They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own health care.
– Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama’s illegal alien aunt — a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).
– Law enforcement officials at all levels — by national mandate — must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens’ arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.
– Ready to show your papers? Mexico’s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens’ identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens. "
or any other legitimate topic of discourse.
The real issue is that Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, and by extension
the various misanthropes, of questionable sanity, like Limbaugh, Beck, etc
have ___any___ credibility to discuss these matters
1. The law states that citizens from certain countries need to apply for an immigration permit (depending on the agreements signed with different countries, this process may be waived). Depending on the purpose of the visit the foreigner MAY be required to present certain documents, pass a medical exam, or show proof that the person can economically sustain him/herself as well any companions during the stay. With regard to the immigration for workers, an immigration quota will be set depending on the specific economic needs of each mexican region, and preference will be given to the foreigners with specialized degrees or skills lacking in Mexico. If a particular foreigner does not meet this criteria then entry will be denied. There is absolutely no mention of any ethnic or racial requirement to deny or grant entry. Both mexicans and foreigners may only be asked for immigration documents at the entry port to the country, or at some designated check points within the country). NO ONE is asking for your papers randomly.
I'm sorry to rain on your rant but that is basically the same rule every single country in the world has to deal with possible foreign workers.
2. All penalties for breaking immigration laws (like extending your stay, doing an activity you are not authorized to do, marriage fraud for the purpose of immigration) are punishable only with fines, or a max 36hr jail time if the fine is not paid. If deemed necessary (after due process) the person will be given a deadline to leave the country voluntarily, or be deported to their country of origin. The only offense in the entire law that is punishable with serious jail time 6 - 12 years, is for anyone involved in people smuggling in and out of Mexico.
3. The enforcement of immigration laws is only authorized by immigration officers.
4. Mexico does have a national ID card used as a voter registry (only mexicans can get one). Every person over 18yrs old is encouraged to get one but there is no fine, penalty or law against not having one. It is used as part of the voter registry, and you must show it at the booth in order to vote. The only information it contains is your name, date of birth, and the equivalent of your social security number. To get it all you need to provide is your birth certificate and an address so you can be registered in your corresponding voting district. It is considered an official ID, so you can use it for a lot of processes (like opening a bank account, utilities account, etc.) You DO NOT have to carry your card at all times since NO ONE will ask for it at random. If you get stop by traffic police (different from regular police) for a traffic violation they only ask fro your driver's license and car registration. If you do get detained by police for suspicion of a crime they will ask you for ANY type identification at some point.
I hope that clarifies things, but next time, unless you have verified the source of the claim, better not to pass it as true. Especially when you use it to criticize another person or country.
Have a good evening.
So they let her through.
On another note, there is something very odd going on between the Swag-Hag and Hannratty... It looks as if he has a teenage-like crush on the Swag-Hag and MAY be doing something about that crush under his desk as he talks to her!! Maybe I'm just seeing things I want to be true (kinda like a PEE-BAGGER), or has someone else noticed??
You're right. And he ain't the only one. A lot of men and some women (gretta van sustern) are physically attracted to this woman. This explains why she's still on TV. People are drawn to her--she knows it, and she knows how to use it to get what she wants. It doesn't matter that she was chosen as the VP nominee as a gimmick. She managed, thru a shrewed publicist, to turn this little nugget of luck into a cash cow. What would really surprise me is if the American people are stupid enough to put this greedy, selfish woman back into an elected position of any kind.
1. When Janet Napolitano resigned her position as Governor to become Secretary of Homeland Security, it really messed up Arizona politics! Jan Brewer is a nimwit. Napolitano would never have allowed that bill to get to a vote, and if it had, she would have vetoed it.
2. The Arizona legislature is rural dominated especially in the Senate. Phoenix and Tucson voters don't like the bill once they have actually read it. In fact, I think there may very well be a referendum campaign to overturn the bill by the citizens themselves.
3. The illegal immigration problem is huge and 3000 people cross the Arizona-Mexico border daily. Yes, no typo, THREE THOUSAND A DAY. This puts tremendous pressure on all services, especially emergency rooms. Something needs to be done. Just doing nothing isn't working.
4. The bill itself is rather chilling in that it is a civil liberties incursion. ("Papers, Please") Our constitutional rights, all of us, are at stake here. Violate one citizen's rights and you violate everyone's. I am against the bill on that alone, among other reasons.
5. Why not just enforce border security? For the folks that are already here, I favor a path to citizenship and work permits. The problem really can't be dealt with until borders are secure. And I look to the Feds to get that job done.
Just my opinion.
Just repeat after Cafferty. Then kill yourself.