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Morris fabricates "impeachable offense" out of alleged Sestak job offer

May 25, 2010 5:57 pm ET — 32 Comments

Fox News' Dick Morris' baselessly claimed that an alleged job offer by the Obama administration to Rep. Joe Sestak would constitute an "impeachable offense." However, the Reagan administration reportedly made a similar offer to a candidate, and legal experts have rejected the claims that such offers are illegal.

Morris baselessly claims alleged job offer was "clearly a violation of law"

Morris: "Joe Sestak is either lying or the White House committed a crime." During an appearance on Sean Hannity's Fox News show, Morris baselessly claimed: "It is illegal to offer someone anything of importance or of value in return for a vote or a running or not running for office. Illegal." He added: "This is a straight prohibition against offering anything of value. Clearly a violation of law." Morris went on to say: "This scandal could be enormous. It's Valerie Plame, only 10 times bigger because it's illegal. And Joe Sestak is either lying or the White House committed a crime. He can't have it both ways." [Hannity, 5/24/10]

Morris and Hannity agree offer is "an impeachable offense." After Morris said that the offer might be "a high crime and misdemeanor," Hannity asked: "That would be -- in other words -- an impeachable offense." Morris replied "Absolutely." [Hannity, 5/24/10]

Reagan administration reportedly offered job for candidate to step down

Reagan adviser reportedly offered CA senator a job with the administration "if he decided not to seek re-election." A November 25, 1981, Associated Press article (from the Nexis database) reported that President Reagan's political adviser Ed Rollins planned to offer former California Sen. S.I. Hayakawa a job in the administration in exchange for not seeking re-election.

From the AP article:

Sen. S.I. Hayakawa on Wednesday spurned a Reagan administration suggestion that if he drops out of the crowded Republican Senate primary race in California, President Reagan would find him a job.

"I'm not interested," said the 75-year-old Hayakawa.

"I do not want to be an ambassador, and I do not want an administration post."

[...]

In an interview earlier this week, Ed Rollins, who will become the president's chief political adviser in January, said Hayakawa would be offered an administration post if he decided not to seek re-election. No offer has been made directly to Hayakawa, Rollins said.

Similarly, Hayakawa said in a statement, "I have not contacted the White House in regard to any administration or ambassadorial post, and they have not been in contact with me."

AP: "Ethics attorneys in Washington said such offers are common." A February 19 Associated Press article reported: "Ethics attorneys in Washington said such offers are common. Melanie Sloan, director of the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, described it as 'politics as usual.' "

Wash. Post: "This would hardly be the first administration" to offer a job to "clear the field." A May 25 Washington Post editorial critical of the Obama administration's response stated: "At the same time, of course, political considerations play a role in political appointments. This would hardly be the first administration to use appointments to try to clear the field for a favored candidate."

Legal experts dispute claims that a crime was committed

Bush ethics lawyer calls claim that a job offer is a bribe "difficult to support." In a post on the Legal Ethics Forum blog, former Bush administration chief ethics lawyer Richard Painter wrote: "The allegation that the job offer was somehow a 'bribe' in return for Sestak not running in the primary is difficult to support." Painter also wrote:

The job offer may have been a way of getting Sestak out of Specter's way, but this also is nothing new. Many candidates for top Administration appointments are politically active in the President's political party. Many are candidates or are considering candidacy in primaries. White House political operatives don't like contentious fights in their own party primaries and sometimes suggest jobs in the Administration for persons who otherwise would be contenders. For the White House, this is usually a "win-win" situation, giving the Administration politically savvy appointees in the Executive Branch and fewer contentious primaries for the Legislative Branch. This may not be best for voters who have less choice as a result, and Sestak thus should be commended for saying "no". The job offer, however, is hardly a "bribe" when it is one of two alternatives that are mutually exclusive.

Painter: "[D]ifficult to envision applying" bribery statute to Sestak job offer. In a subsequent blog post replying to a call by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) for a special prosecutor to be appointed to investigate possible criminal charges, Painter wrote: "The Administration probably should provide the information needed to clarify what happened, but the bribery statute citied by Congressman Issa is, for reasons explained in my previous post, difficult to envision applying to this situation."

CREW executive director: "I don't see the crime." CNS News reported that Sloan, a former federal prosecutor, commented of the allegations: "I don't see the crime." From the March 24 CNS News article:

"People offer members of Congress things all the time," Melanie Sloan, a former federal prosecutor and now the executive director of the liberal government watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), told CNSNews.com. "I don't think there is any issue. I don't see the crime."

[...]

If it is true, such a trade would be an indictment of the system, Sloan of CREW said, but not likely illegal.

"A quid pro quo has to offer something of value in exchange for something," Sloan said. "If you agree not to run for the Senate and we'll make you secretary of the Navy -- that offers no monetary value. It's just the unseemly side of politics."

Wash. Post: "[E]thics laws do not seem designed for this circumstance." In its May 25 editorial, The Washington Post stated: "Would it be illegal? Mr. Specter said so, but ethics laws do not seem designed for this circumstance. Ordinarily, bribery takes place in the opposite direction: Government officials aren't usually the ones offering something of value. Other statutes prohibit officials from using their power to interfere in an election, or to, directly or indirectly, promise a job as 'reward for any political activity.' But these have been understood to prevent official coercion, not criminalize horse-trading." The editorial continued:

Still, the White House position that everyone should just trust it and go away is unacceptable from any administration; it is especially hypocritical coming from this one. "I'm not going to get further into what the conversations were," Mr. Gibbs said Sunday. "People that have looked into them assure me that they weren't inappropriate in any way." This response would hardly have satisfied those who were upset during the previous administration about the firing of U.S. attorneys. If there was nothing improper, why not all that sunlight Mr. Obama promised?

TPM: "[E]xperts seem to agree that there's no legal wrongdoing -- and very little scandal here." Talking Points Memo's Zachary Roth reported in a May 25 post that "several experts tell TPMmuckraker this is much ado about nothing." Roth went on to report:

That may be fair as far as it goes -- the White House certainly hasn't been falling all over itself to be up front about what happened. But the experts seem to agree that there's no legal wrongdoing -- and very little scandal here.

"People horse trade politically all the time," Stan Brand, a prominent Washington criminal defense lawyer told TPMmuckraker. "So I don't put much stock in this, and I don't think its gonna go anywhere."

Even those who used to prosecute public corruption cases agree. "Talk about criminalizing the political process!" said Peter Zeidenberg, a former federal prosecutor with the Justice Department's Public Integrity unit. "It would be horrible precedent if what really truly is political horsetrading were viewed in the criminal context of: is this a corrupt bribe?"

And Melanie Sloan, a former federal prosecutor who as the head of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington isn't known for going on easy public corruption, concurred. "There is no bribery case here," she said. "No statute has ever been used to prosecute anybody for bribery in circumstances like this."

Sloan added that Issa's move was more about politics. "It's not at all about whether there was actual criminal wrongdoing," she said. "It's about how to go after Sestak."

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    • Author by bintx (May 25, 2010 6:10 pm ET)
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      Morris knows NOTHING of the law.
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      • Author by seahawks123 (May 25, 2010 6:40 pm ET)
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        Now you are an lawyer? What's your retainer, an Obama plate collection and a pair of nylons?
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        • Author by eweston8542983 (May 25, 2010 6:43 pm ET)
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          Hey Joe! You got chewing gum?
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        • Author by my4cents (May 25, 2010 10:14 pm ET)
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          I was going to ask, is Morris a lawyer but, never mind.
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (May 25, 2010 10:32 pm ET)
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          As a matter of fact, I believe she is a lawyer...or at least works in the legal field.
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        • Author by louee (May 26, 2010 11:13 am ET)
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          I'm a lawyer. What's it to you? You'll buy anything that spews from the mouths of these wingnut sycophants. Why do you even come to this site? You are incapable of hearing the truth.
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      • Author by jbraskin4786 (May 26, 2010 9:25 am ET)
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        The Dick knows nothing about anything except toe-sucking.
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      • Author by lede39571545 (May 26, 2010 11:04 am ET)
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        But he knows a lot about toes. Wonder if he prefers the big toe?
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    • Author by jgibson349687 (May 25, 2010 6:18 pm ET)
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      I also heard Loesch lying about it today.

      The Toe Sucker is being a deceitful jerk.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (May 25, 2010 10:33 pm ET)
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      Is there anyone, conservatives included, who believes a word this rupulsive toad, Morris, says?
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    • Author by boulderhippy (May 25, 2010 11:36 pm ET)
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      This is a stupid arguement. I am sure some real impeachable offenses will show up soon. He sounds too liberal to me. I heard the same thing from lefties about Bush.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (May 26, 2010 12:52 am ET)
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        Don't you worry BJFan is out there fabricating a selection of impeachable offences if Obama fails to create any actual impeacable offence. Right after he takes your guns away.
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        • Author by sodium (May 26, 2010 3:23 am ET)
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          "BJFan is out there "

          Damn I wish he'd show up. I've got some nice steaming dog poop I want to rub his silly little nose in...;p
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      • Author by eb (May 26, 2010 9:22 am ET)
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        This is a stupid arguement. I am sure some real impeachable offenses will show up soon. He sounds too liberal to me. I heard the same thing from lefties about Bush.

        And yet, was Bush ever seriously threatend with impeachment? Were most well established lefty media pundits calling for it? The double standard is striking.

        Bush's lack of experience and failures before entering the White House were not a problem for conservatives.

        His efforts to create a more powerful presidency were not a problem with conservatives.

        His disregard for public opinion was not a problem for conservatives.

        His close relationships with foreign and corporate power was not a problem for conservatives.

        His deployement of our military under misleading pretenses was not a problem for conservatives.

        His increase in the deficit was not a problem for conservatives.

        Obama might just be a typical president: moderate policies, moderate ethics, moderate effectiveness. Conservatives such as Morris have much higher hopes for him. As pointed out in the above article, they expect him to be better than Reagan. Who knows, maybe in 10 years we will be calling the Washington Airport, Barak Obama International Airport.
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        • Author by boulderhippy (May 26, 2010 10:06 am ET)
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          Wow, you are still campaigning against Bush. Newsflash: Bush hasn't ran for office since he won the 2004 presidential election.

          Obama supporters always rip on Bush then compare Obama to him. I guess they are afraid to set the bar too high for Obama. They all know that Obama is following Bush policies in most cases.

          I don't believe anyone is going to suggest changing the name of Dulles International Airport.
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          • Author by eb (May 26, 2010 10:29 am ET)
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            Obama supporters always rip on Bush then compare Obama to him

            Obama critics always rip on Obama for things that Bush or Reagan did or hold him to a much higher standard than Bush or Reagan. Also conservatives still complain about Carter.

            Also it is convenient to make past presidents off limits in order to deny a double standard.

            They all know that Obama is following Bush policies in most cases.

            I agree and that is why the smear campaign of making Obama into this socialist abomination is so dishonest and crazy. I am glad that you admit that Hannity and Beck are wrong and that the current administration is fairly moderate and not socialist.

            I guess they [Obama supporters] are afraid to set the bar too high for Obama.

            My point was that conservatives are holding Obama to a higher standard than Reagan. They critize Obama for not being better than Reagan and they looked the other way when their guy made a big mess of things. That is a double standard!
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            • Author by boulderhippy (May 26, 2010 12:14 pm ET)
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              Are you saying that it is alright to have an incompetent president because you perceive that Bush was incompetent and it is now the lefties turn.

              Every president should be held to the highest standards.

              Conservatives did not look the other way when their guy made a big mess of things. Look at the approval numbers. It appears that the left is looking the other way on Obama.
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (May 26, 2010 4:45 pm ET)
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                Are you saying that......??


                Why is it that every time a right winger begins a post with that phrase, what follows is nowhere in the neighborhood of what the other person is saying .
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                • Author by MiniTru (May 27, 2010 8:44 am ET)
                     
                  Because the only man the right has to put forth their ideas is made of straw.
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          • Author by louee (May 26, 2010 11:19 am ET)
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            Hey doofas, he may not be in office but we are still suffering the after effects of the worst president in the history of this country and will be for years to come. So yes, it's plenty relevant to call Bush out daily, even hourly, for the hell he visited upon us. Your side owns the little weasel. That's why you don't want his name mentioned. Tough. And changing the name of Dulles would relieve us from having to use the name of the worst wackjob ever to work in governmental security.
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            • Author by boulderhippy (May 26, 2010 12:29 pm ET)
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              Nice usage of the word doofas. Was that used because you need to feel intellectually superior while making absolutely no contribution to this debate?
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              • Author by DellDolly (May 27, 2010 4:26 am ET)
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                IT would be YOU who hasn't added anything to the debate, doofus.
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    • Author by johnbrown (May 26, 2010 1:05 am ET)
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      I think Hannity should be impeached as a talk show host.
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    • Author by eb (May 26, 2010 9:12 am ET)
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      The real impeachable offense is tha Obama is not a conservative. After Reagan, this is supposed to be a conservative country. Period!

      I remember congressman Barr saying Clinton should be impeached well before anyone had heard of a Lewisnky. Should we be surprised that Obama will be held to a much higher standard than previous republican administrations?

      From the Clinton days we learned that impeachment proceedings should be routine, even concerning civil lawsuits on a sitting president.

      From the W. Bush administration we learned that a president can mislead our country and congress in order to attack a soveriegn nation that did not attack us, without legal consequences.

      Of course Morris must make this bigger than outing a CIA agent? Otherwise the contradictions are just too obvious and painfull.
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    • Author by grrson (May 26, 2010 10:22 am ET)
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      All this for a guy who has an affinity for hookers.

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    • Author by louee (May 26, 2010 11:12 am ET)
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      If Dick Morris had any morality, he'd hang his head in shame. But of course he doesn't so he'll go merrily on his way making up outrageous stuff about the president and having Hannity kiss his behind. This stuff makes me so angry. In my lifetime I've never seen politics sink to such a low level; and that includes Nixon! If I were a Republican I would be ashamed of my party. It's too bad the slander laws protect idiots like Morris. He should be shunned.
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    • Author by txthinker (May 26, 2010 12:08 pm ET)
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      Morris fabricates "impeachable offense" out of alleged Sestak job offer
      Is there any way we can revoke the Toe Sucker's citizenship adn deport him?
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    • Author by shaggles (May 26, 2010 1:07 pm ET)
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      I knew as soon as Obama was elected there would be people on the right talking about impeaching him. They couldn't see any possible grounds for impeaching Bush and claimed it was just playing politics to suggest there was but as soon as a Dem is in the White House impeachment is on the table again. Funny how that works.
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    • Author by tobehonest (May 27, 2010 7:25 pm ET)
         
      question: how does other presidents/administrations use of bribery a defense of bribery under the current administration? it's all wrong; doing something wrong and then saying "its OK because other people did the same thing" is an argument that, I thought, was typically abandoned circa third grade
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