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Will media that advanced "Climategate" smear now report on investigation clearing scientist?

July 01, 2010 5:47 pm ET — 46 Comments

Network and cable news outlets -- led by Fox News -- advanced the right-wing smear, which they dubbed "Climategate," that emails stolen last year showed climate change scientists engaged in wrong-doing, such as, they alleged, "fudging data." Will these media outlets now report on the latest investigation clearing a scientist at the center of the controversy of any wrongdoing in the matter?

Investigation clears scientist of any wrongdoing over email controversy

Penn State investigation: "No substance to the allegation against" climate scientist Mann. In November 2009, emails were stolen from the servers of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia and posted online. Climate change skeptics distorted these emails in order to falsely claim that the emails undermined the scientific consensus that global warming is occurring. Specifically, skeptics distorted CRU director Phil Jones' statement that he had used a "trick" invented by Penn State scientist Michael Mann to "hide the decline" to claim that Jones and Mann had been "doctoring" or "fudging" data. Penn State subsequently assembled a committee of scientists and department heads to investigate whether Mann engaged in "research misconduct." In a June 4 report obtained by The Washington Post on July 1, the committee stated that "there is no substance to the allegation against" Mann:

The Investigatory Committee, after careful review of all available evidence, determined that there is no substance to the allegation against Dr. Michael E. Mann, Professor, Department of Meteorology, The Pennsylvania State University.

More specifically, the Investigatory Committee determined that Dr. Michael E. Mann did not engage in, nor did he participate in, directly or indirectly, any actions that seriously deviated from accepted practices within the academic community for proposing, conducting, or reporting research, or other scolarly activities.

The decision of the Investigatory Committee was unanimous.

Republican former House Science Committee chairman Sherwood Boehlert: "This exoneration should close the book on the absurd episode in which climate scientists were unjustly attacked." On July 1, Washington Post reported:

"This exoneration should close the book on the absurd episode in which climate scientists were unjustly attacked when in fact they have been providing a great public service," Boehlert said in a statement. "The attacks on scientists were a manufactured distraction, and today's report is a welcome return to common sense. While scientists can now focus on their work, policy makers need to address the very real problem of climate change."

Fox led charge in pushing "Climategate" smear against Mann and other scientists

Varney distorted stolen emails to announce "Climategate." On the November 24, 2009, edition of Fox News' Your World, Stuart Varney stated, " 'Climategate' set to break wide open today ... hacked emails from Britain suggesting scientists are fudging data to make their case for global warming."

Fox News' Kellogg baselessly claimed stolen CRU emails suggested climate scientists "were trying to manipulate the data." On the December 10, 2009, edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom, co-host Bill Hemmer said that the stolen emails "suggested researchers manipulated some of that data that support the theory of manmade warming." Later during the segment, Fox News' Amy Kellogg stated that "the story is widely being called 'Climategate' and that the stolen emails suggested that scientists "were trying to manipulate the data."

Hemmer falsely claimed CRU emails show scientists hiding "evidence of a decline in global temperatures." On the December 3, 2009, edition of America's Newsroom, Hemmer falsely claimed that "recently leaked emails reveal that scientists use, quote, 'tricks' to hide evidence of a decline in global temperatures over the past, say, few decades."

Wallace called climate scientists "fudgers" who "tried to suppress opposition." On the December 6, 2009, edition of Fox Broadcasting Co.'s Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace claimed that the stolen emails showed that "some of the climate scientists were apparently fudgers and tried to suppress opposition comments."

Hannity falsely claimed that emails show scientists "were certainly fudging" climate data. On the December 4, 2009, edition of his Fox News show, Sean Hannity falsely claimed that the emails show that the scientists "were certainly fudging" climate data."

Fox & Friends celebrated Earth Day by pushing "Climategate" falsehoods. On April 22, after wishing viewers a "Happy Earth Day," Fox & Friends devoted a segment to pushing falsehoods about "Climategate," falsely claiming the emails showed that climate scientists "manipulated data."

CNN, network news shows also pushed "Climategate"

CNN's Cafferty: "It's been dubbed Climategate." On the December 2, 2009, edition of CNN's The Situation Room (accessed via Nexis), Jack Cafferty stated: "Al Gore called global warming 'an inconvenient truth.' But suddenly a lot of people are asking what the truth really is. Suddenly, it's been dubbed Climategate." He then stated:

A climate scientist at the center of a growing controversy over hacked e-mails is stepping down from a British University's climate research unit under a cloud of suspicion. Critics point to 1,000 pages of leaked e-mails and documents between this scientist and others which they say prove that global warming is not a threat. They say researchers are ignoring data that questions whether global warming is real and have conspired to discredit those who question the phenomenon.

CNN's Lemon: "It may be called climate-gate -- look for that term to be used a lot." On the December 6, 2009, edition of CNN Newsroom (accessed via Nexis), host Don Lemon said: "Well, the talks in Copenhagen opened with a cloud of controversy hovering over the conference. It may be called climate-gate -- look for that term to be used a lot -- a series of stolen e-mails that may cast some doubt on global warming research."

On ABC's World News, Wright advanced misleading claims about the emails. In a December 9, 2009, report on ABC's World News, correspondent David Wright advanced misleading claims about the stolen emails, including the claim that a scientist called it a "travesty" that they couldn't explain a temporary lack of warming." Further, despite airing Penn State scientist Michael Mann stating, "Imagine somebody going through all of the emails you've ever sent looking for a single word or phrase that could be twisted," Wright reported: "One of the most damning email exchanges credits Mann with a 'trick' to 'hide the decline' in temperatures."

NBC's Nightly News adopted "Climategate" smear. On the December 4, 2009, edition of NBC's Nightly News, host Brian Williams stated "Climategate they're calling it. A new scandal over global warming and it's burning up the Internet." Williams continued: "Have the books been cooked on climate change?" Later in the broadcast, Williams stated: "There's a new scandal that's burning up the net these days." Later during the segment, correspondent Anne Thompson reported: "Those that doubt that man-made greenhouse gases are changing the climate say these emails from Britain's University of East Anglia show climate scientists massaging data and suppressing studies by those who disagree."

CBS' Glor: "[D]id some scientists fudge the numbers to make climate change look worse than it is?"  Introducing a report on the December 5 broadcast of the CBS Evening News, anchor Jeff Glor asked, "[D]id some scientists fudge the numbers to make climate change look worse than it is?" During the ensuing report, CBS News correspondent Kimberly Dozier claimed that the reportedly stolen CRU emails "have cast doubts on the very science" that a climate change summit in Copenhagen "is based on," and asserted that the emails "seem to show that some of the world's top experts decided to exclude or manipulate some research that didn't help prove global warming exists."

Attacks on Mann were false

REALITY: "Hide the decline" refers to unreliable tree-ring data, not actual temperature readings. The Morning Call of Allentown, Pennsylvania, reported that Mann -- whose "trick" was referenced in Jones' email -- "said his trick, or 'trick of the trade,' for the Nature chart was to combine data from tree-ring measurements, which record world temperatures from 1,000 years ago until 1960, with actual temperature readings for 1961 through 1998" because "scientists have discovered that, for temperatures since 1960, tree rings have not been a reliable indicator." Jones has also stated that it is "well known" that tree ring data "does not show a realistic trend of temperature after 1960," and the CRU has said that "[t]he 'decline' in this set of tree-ring data should not be taken to mean that there is any problem with the instrumental temperature data."

Temperature records show there was no "decline" in actual temperatures to hide. In a December 8 London Times column, Andrew Watson, research professor at the University of East Anglia explained, "The tree-ring measure declines, but the actual temperatures after 1960 go up." Jones has similarly explained that "it was absolutely necessary to remove the incorrect impression given by the tree rings that temperatures between about 1960 and 1999 (when the email was written) were not rising, as our instrumental data clearly showed they were." Indeed, measurements from each of the major climate centers show the clear warming trend.

Scientists have stated that the word "trick" is being misinterpreted. Scientists say the word "trick" is a commonly used expression and does not indicate deception. Bob Ward, director of policy and communications at the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics, is quoted in a Guardian article as saying of Jones' email: "Scientists say 'trick' not just to mean deception. They mean it as a clever way of doing something -- a short cut can be a trick." RealClimate also explained that "[s]cientists often use the term 'trick' to refer to ... 'a good way to deal with a problem', rather than something that is 'secret', and so there is nothing problematic in this at all."

FactCheck.org: "Not the case" that email indicates "sneaky manipulations to mask a decline in global temperatures." FactCheck.org examined the claims by climate skeptics with regard to the emails and found them "unfounded." With regard to the Jones email that references Mann, FactCheck.org reported:

Claims that the e-mails are evidence of fraud or deceit, however, misrepresent what they actually say. A prime example is a 1999 e-mail from Jones, who wrote: "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (i.e., from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline." Skeptics claim the words "trick" and "decline" show Jones is using sneaky manipulations to mask a decline in global temperatures. But that's not the case. Actual temperatures, as measured by scientific instruments such as thermometers, were rising at the time of the writing of this decade-old e-mail, and (as we've noted) have continued to rise since then. Jones was referring to the decline in temperatures implied by measurements of the width and density of tree rings. In recent decades, these measures indicate a dip, while more accurate instrument-measured temperatures continue to rise.

Scientists at CRU use tree-ring data and other "proxy" measurements to estimate temperatures from times before instrumental temperature data began to be collected. However, since about 1960, tree-ring data have diverged from actual measured temperatures. Far from covering it up, CRU scientists and others have published reports of this divergence many times. The "trick" that Jones was writing about in his 1999 e-mail was simply adding the actual, measured instrumental data into a graph of historic temperatures. Jones says it's a "trick" in the colloquial sense of an adroit feat -- "a clever thing to do," as he put it -- not a deception. What's hidden is the fact that tree-ring data in recent decades doesn't track with thermometer measurements.

Previous inquiries found "no evidence" that scientists manipulated data

AP: U.K. investigation shows "no evidence" that CRU scientists "had tampered with data." The Associated Press reported on March 31 that "[t]he House of Commons' Science and Technology Committee said Wednesday that they'd seen no evidence to support charges that the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit or its director, Phil Jones, had tampered with data or perverted the peer review process to exaggerate the threat of global warming -- two of the most serious criticisms levied against the climatologist and his colleagues." The House of Commons issued the report on March 31.

Penn State: "[N]o credible evidence" that Mann "engaged in, or participated in ... any actions with an intent to suppress or to falsify data." In February, Penn State released the results of its initial inquiry, led by a panel of department heads and scientists, into whether Mann -- based on alleged evidence in the emails -- manipulated data or destroyed records. Among its conclusions was that there was "no credible evidence" that Mann had "ever engaged in, or participated in, directly or indirectly, any actions with an intent to suppress or to falsify data" and "no credible evidence" that Mann had "engaged in, or participated in, directly or indirectly, any actions with intent to delete, conceal or otherwise destroy emails, information and/or data."

Independent panel: "[N]o evidence of any deliberate scientific malpractice." An independent panel in the U.K., led by former industry scientist Lord Oxburgh, released a report in April finding "no evidence of any deliberate scientific malpractice in any of the work of the Climatic Research Unit and had it been there we believe that it is likely that we would have detected it. Rather we found a small group of dedicated if slightly disorganised researchers who were ill-prepared for being the focus of public attention." The (London) Guardian reported that Oxburgh said "many of the criticisms and assertions of scientific misconduct were likely made by people 'who do not like the implications of some the conclusions' reached by the climate experts," and quoted him saying, 'Whatever was said in the emails, the basic science seems to have been done fairly and properly.' "

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    • Author by bludog1 (July 01, 2010 6:06 pm ET)
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      A committee from the scientist's own university has cleared the scientist in the so called "climategate" issue. Now that is news that warrants immediate front page/top-of-show retractions and apologies from news outlets! Sure, right!
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      • Author by lipreader (July 01, 2010 6:22 pm ET)
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        It deserves a retraction more than the false allegations ever deserved to be published in the first place. What do you have against the truth?
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      • Author by The Liberal Republican (July 01, 2010 6:33 pm ET)
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        You should just get it over with and have the lobotomy all ready. It's obvious you aren't using your head.

        Wake up It's happening. Quit trying to lie your way out of wanting to kill the planet.
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        • Author by bludog1 (July 01, 2010 7:11 pm ET)
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          The issue is credibility. This would be like the Bush DOJ exonerating a WH official of complicity in swinging a policy recommendation in one direction or another. My guess is that neither of you would feel that a credible exoneration.

          TLR: you give away your prejudice with your last comment.
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          • Author by ajzito (July 01, 2010 7:29 pm ET)
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            Sure, one has to consider that it was a committee of his peers that cleared the man, but the explanation here of the meaning of the ominous-sounding phrases 'trick' and 'hide the decline' kind of shows that the people peddling this scandal were at best jumping to conclusions and at worst engaged in outright lying. Climategate promoters wanted us to believe that an important climate scientist was engaged in skulduggery to 'hide the decline' in global temperatures. As reported here, he was trying to keep the decline in tree rings as a temperature indicator from obscuring the fact that temperatures, as measured directly, have continued to increase. The details and the full story speak for themselves. The whole thing was bullsh$t on the order of the Acorn 'whorehouse' videos.
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          • Author by ScienceBuff (July 01, 2010 7:36 pm ET)
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            It's the best we're going to get. No one outside of the most deranged anti-science nutjobs has accused Mann of any crimes, so there won't be any criminal investigation. No outside body is going to take the time, effort or expense to perform an in-depth investigation when even a casual perusal of the public information shows no evidence of any wrongdoing. If there were any actual evidence of professional impropriety, Penn State would have to address it seriously or risk losing status which you may be sure is something major universities take seriously.

            That's where the difference lies with your analogy. A political administration covering for itself has little to lose as long as no criminality can be proven. Their whitewash could actually advance the careers of the political players. If Penn State's investigation and report can be shown not to honestly and thoroughly address all of the major issues, their reputation and status suffer. They have a much greater incentive to do a quality investigation than would a transitory political administration.

            It was inevitable that Mann would come out of this clean because of the facts, not any spin. Unfortunately, some will only ever remember the smears based on dishonesty and ignorance.
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            • Author by goonhee9633 (July 01, 2010 8:21 pm ET)
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              Said much better than I could Science Buff. Idiots like bludog don't understand the difference between scientific peer review and political machinations and coverups. The reputations of the universities and the principle investigators (scientists) mean everything to them. Transgressions against scientific integrity inevitably are brought to light when peer review is properly employed.
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              • Author by pointofview (July 01, 2010 11:05 pm ET)
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                Idiots like bludog don't understand the difference between scientific peer review and political machinations and coverups.


                It is obvious you have never worked at a University.
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                • Author by bludog1 (July 02, 2010 8:08 am ET)
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                  Unless the review -- and the reviewers -- are viewed as credible, there is no difference. The fact that one comes from a university does not in and of itself always guarantee credibility.
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                  • Author by DellDolly (July 02, 2010 12:00 pm ET)
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                    But the reviewers ARE credible.

                    One is a distinguished professor in the computer science/electrical engineering dept. Another is the dept head of anthropology. Others are important guys from the biology and physics and chemistry depts. There was a university Senior VP for Research involved. There was also an Associate Dean for Graduate Research in the college of Earth and Mineral Sciences involved. And finally, the Research Integrity Officer was the Director of the Office for Research Protections.

                    The head of the Dept of Meteorology was the consultant to the group.

                    They not only asked Dr Mann what his standards were, but they asked other people what they would have done too.

                    Here's a 19 page PDF without much blank space with their report.

                    The weasel BluDog is simply trying to get away with a lie here, just like the rightwing media has already been doing on this topic.

                    They were appointed by the Dean of the Graduate School.

                    It couldn't have BEEN a more stellar group that investigated this guy!
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                • Author by goonhee9633 (July 03, 2010 2:00 pm ET)
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                  OK Professor pointofview. The point I am making is that objective academic peer review is the foundation upon which scientific investigation is built. Do politics enter into events like an oral exam, or competition for grant money, sure. But to compare scientific peer review to the shenanigans that go on in a political organization (regardless of affiliation)demonstrates to me that you are a fool.
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            • Author by Andy Kreiss (July 01, 2010 9:22 pm ET)
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              Well said, ScienceBuff. The BUsh DOJ analogy was jaw-droppingly ridiculous.

              I also agree with you that in spite of "climategate" being a non-issue to anybody but the rabid anti-science right wingers who fell for it in the first place, those same Denial Cultists will continue to cite it as evidence of The great Global Warming Hoax.

              Although I have to admit, judging by the lack of them posting here in comparison to a year or two ago, maybe this is one swindle that even the dim bulbs are catching on to.

              One more semi-related note; I heard that some teabagger rallies were re-scheduled from August to October, with two reasons given for the change-

              Conflicts with family vacation times, which doesn't sound like a good excuse for revolutionaries to postpone the saving of their country/ taking their country back/ whatever the funk they're screaming about.

              The second excuse I heard was that it was too hot. Funny for the same reasons as the first excuse, and additionally funny to wonder if any of the "snow in January refutes Global Warming" simpletons in the media will be making a big deal out of a revolution being re=scheduled because it's very warm.

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              • Author by DellDolly (July 02, 2010 12:05 am ET)
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                I hope you heard that Hurricane Alex was the strongest June hurricane in this area since the 1960's, and the barometric pressure was the lowest recorded for a June storm since the 1950's.

                Now, we can't definitely link ANY ONE storm to GCC, but it sure does seem suspicious that it happened this way, doesn't it?
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                • Author by edrossinoelwein9669 (July 02, 2010 1:45 am ET)
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                  no
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                • Author by Andy Kreiss (July 02, 2010 1:57 am ET)
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                  Not to some people, DD. But those are generally the people who think it's suspicious that Obama's parents posted a phony birth notice in a Hawaiian paper half a century ago.

                  If you mention extreme weather patterns to them, they might think it's "suspicious" that everything seems to support science. They seem to find the predictable very scary, and complete insanity comforting.

                  Take Edrosseledelweiss.
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                  • Author by wookie (July 02, 2010 7:13 am ET)
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                    Personally, I think that all of nature is in on the conspiracy. Just like they are trying to trick us into believing in evolution. Good thing we have right wing high school drop out DJs to tell us the real facts...
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            • Author by cugagcmu805031 (July 04, 2010 12:52 pm ET)
                 
              Recently, only the nutty Attorney General, Ken Cuccinelli, seems to be still interested in beating this dead horse. I wonder what his next step is now since Dr. Mann has been exonerated? My guess is that he'll continue to press for an investigation of Dr. Mann's work while he was at the University of Virginia and use millions of the state's scarce dollars to end up looking like the fool that he is. I wonder if his denial of science extends to not seeking medical treatment when he or a member of his family is sick, or when it's time for his 7 kids to receive immunizations?
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          • Author by The Liberal Republican (July 01, 2010 10:21 pm ET)
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            What that I don't like Delusional Jagoffs?

            You got me there buddy!

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          • Author by pointofview (July 01, 2010 11:05 pm ET)
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            Well said Blue.
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            • Author by DellDolly (July 02, 2010 12:06 am ET)
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              The next time Bludog says anything well, it'll be the first time. This isn't an example of something well said.
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              • Author by pointofview (July 02, 2010 1:06 am ET)
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                LOL. Coming from you that is such a joke. You have no credibility, and are probably hated by more lib posters here than right wing ones.
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                • Author by DellDolly (July 02, 2010 12:08 pm ET)
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                  Yeah, right.

                  There ARE likely several liberal posters here who don't like me, but THAT's because they like replying to troll posts and don't like having it pointed out that it's the wrong thing to do to control that impulse. That's THEIR problem though, not mine.

                  It's undeniable that I contribute a lot to this site, with links, well-thought out responses, additional info, etc. I explain stuff, and I summarize things, and I point out additional insights, and I provide valuable analysis.

                  And I understand you'd LIKE to ignore that. Too bad, so sad.

                  I understand that you'll like to ignore the troll-hunting that I do - the brakes I put on the feeding of troll posts, and the refutations and debunking I do of your posts and others like yours from other righty posters.

                  Again, too bad, so sad - your wish that I be ignored, that I lose my credibility because several posters here don't like my style? Not going to happen. What a fool you are that you don't/can't/won't understand this very simple concept.
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                  • Author by tinka (July 02, 2010 1:07 pm ET)
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                    Thanks for all you do Dolly!
                    I find you post to be full of truthful information. I've learned alot from your post.

                    Keep up the pressure on trolls and idiots (rightwing)!
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                • Author by CoolSlaw (July 02, 2010 2:32 pm ET)
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                  You have no credibility, and are probably hated by more lib posters here than right wing ones.


                  Wrong.
                  First of all, liberals don't throw hate around so easily. I think some liberal posters get annoyed at her frequent admonishing of others not to "feed the trolls"...but HATE? Nah, that's the right wing domain.

                  As far as credibility goes, I think you're barking up the wrong tree there, my friend. Dolly backs up her arguments with facts and links to credible sources.

                  Hey, I know the right wing strategy of divide and conquer has worked wondrously in dumbing down and weakening our American democracy, but I don't think it's going to work here.
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                  • Author by mikehuck1976 (July 02, 2010 3:32 pm ET)
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                    Well said. I may not always agree with you Dolly, especially your choice of attacks, but I have zero hate for you. None at all.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (July 04, 2010 1:09 pm ET)
           
        Only someone who doesn't know/realize what is at stake for our entire planet would even stoop so low as to post such an asinine comment.
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    • Author by wookie (July 01, 2010 9:18 pm ET)
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      Short answer? No. They accomplished their goal of turning science into some Commie conspiracy to undermine the free market of companies like BP. Why revist it now?
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    • Author by boulderhippy (July 01, 2010 10:51 pm ET)
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      This is old regurgitated news. The original panel didn't ven interview anybody. They took a couple of days and cleared their star fundraiser. It is amazing who you can buy when you can raise millions.
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      • Author by DellDolly (July 02, 2010 12:07 am ET)
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        You don't know what you're talking about, and you aren't actually portraying what happened.

        And that's why you didn't provide a link to document your bogus allegations.
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        • Author by DellDolly (July 02, 2010 12:11 pm ET)
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          I provided a link to the PDF in another post above, and after skimming through it, you can find that boulderhippy hasn't a clue about what was actually in that PDF, so he has no idea what the panel did WRT to Dr Mann. He's apparently confusing it with the inquiry that was done in Great Britain, and he's also distorting THAT effort!
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          • Author by CoolSlaw (July 02, 2010 2:37 pm ET)
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            Dolly, don't you know...Beck or Limbaugh or somebody of their ilk dismissed this out of hand with that explanation or something, so to Boulderhippy, that's as good as all the research, truth and fact in the world. Boulderhippy feels comfortable believing that the Earth's climate is not changing (for whatever reason), so facts can go hide under a snowstorm in January in the Northeast (imagine that, next thing they'll tell us there is corn in Nebraska!)
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      • Author by wookie (July 02, 2010 7:02 am ET)
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        If only the oil and coal industry had millions to affect people's views of GW...
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (July 02, 2010 3:33 pm ET)
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        Well, leave it to the wide-hipped boulder to post zero evidence supporting his ludicrous assertions. Once again, just something he heard on Beck and Limbaugh. What a waste of time.
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    • Author by edrossinoelwein9669 (July 02, 2010 1:44 am ET)
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      Can you say whitewash?
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      • Author by mescal (July 02, 2010 1:59 am ET)
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        Can you provide any proof of a whitewash?

        I didn't think so.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (July 02, 2010 2:01 am ET)
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        What's that, the slogan for your segregated laundromat ?
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      • Author by DellDolly (July 02, 2010 12:13 pm ET)
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        Thanks for providing evidence of the whitewash to back up your allegations, Ed - oops, that's right, you didn't actually provide even the tiniest amount of evidence of that.

        I helped you though - the PDF is above in another one of my posts.

        Feel free to open up that link, and pull info from that to show us how a whitewash happened.
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (July 02, 2010 2:41 pm ET)
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          edrossinoelwein9669's argument essentially boils down to:

          My "team" is right! My "team" is right!
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    • Author by Timmee (July 02, 2010 12:42 pm ET)
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      If you have a cultic need for something to be true, you will fight for it even if it's ludicrous.

      Come on people...the word "trick" appeared somewhere in the e-mails...therefore the work of thousands of scientists around the globe is a grand conspiracy.
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      • Author by DellDolly (July 02, 2010 4:32 pm ET)
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        Great point.

        This is NOt one person's scientific study that can be readily debunked.

        There are literally thousands of building blocks that have created the scientific knowledge about global climate change as it exists today.
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    • Author by wisco (July 02, 2010 9:11 pm ET)
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      I'm not seeing this on any TV news websites. Newspapers seem to be doing a good job, as are wire services, but -- as always -- TV journalism seems pretty non-existent.
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    • Author by Dradeeus (July 02, 2010 10:26 pm ET)
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      Spoiler alert: No. That's boring, fact-oriented news.
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      • Author by latichever (July 03, 2010 11:58 am ET)
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        Slightly off topic, but if you'll recall, the right-winger, climate change deniers liked to talk last winter about how much cold and snow there was--mostly demonstrating their ignorance of statistics and the misuse of anecdotal evidence.

        Funny, I don't see them using similarly flawed logic, actually, to point to the high temperatures of the water int he gulf associated with more hurricane activity.

        Where is Hannyity saying: "The water is so hot, must be global warming."
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (July 04, 2010 1:06 pm ET)
         
      The best advice I've read recently from a member of the religious community to the deniers of all things comes from the web site Right Wing Watch:

      Finally, the quote of the day from Russell Moore, dean of the School of Theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary: "There's really nothing conservative -- and certainly nothing evangelical -- about a laissez-faire view of a lack of government regulation, because we, as Christians, believe in sin. That means if people are sinful, if all of us are sinful, then all of us have to have accountability -- and that includes corporations. Simply trusting corporations to go about their business without polluting the water streams and without destroying ecosystems is really a naive and utopian view of human nature. It's not a Christian view of human nature."

      I think this can also be extended to the cc deniers who tout their form of "c"hristianity" as a way to support their refusal to acknowledge that global warming is real. They really need to ask themselves why corporations in the energy industry oppose cc legislation, and they need to begin to examine the goals of these companies in opposing it. They should engage in a bit of self-examination, and ask themselves whether defeating cc legislation would benefit themselves or the energy companies more. The answer is so obvious one would have to be out of touch with reality to believe that enacting cc legislation to prevent energy corporations from ruining the planet in their ongoing pursuit of ever increasing profits is a bad thing.
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