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Sunday shows don't challenge senators' criticism of Afghan withdrawal timetable

July 04, 2010 3:29 pm ET — 6 Comments

Fox's and CBS' Sunday morning talk show hosts allowed Sens. Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman to criticize President Obama's conditions-based troop drawdown date in Afghanistan without mentioning Gen. David Petraeus' endorsement of that timetable. By contrast, during his interview of Sen. John McCain, ABC's Jake Tapper played video of Petraeus endorsing the timetable.

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Petraeus said he "supported" and "agreed with" Obama's 2011 timetable

Obama: "[W]e will execute this transition responsibly" beginning in July 2011. In a December 1, 2009, speech, Obama said that the additional troops he was sending to Afghanistan "will allow us to accelerate handing over responsibility to Afghan forces, and allow us to begin the transfer of our forces out of Afghanistan in July of 2011. Just as we have done in Iraq, we will execute this transition responsibly, taking into account conditions on the ground. We'll continue to advise and assist Afghanistan's security forces to ensure that they can succeed over the long haul. But it will be clear to the Afghan government -- and, more importantly, to the Afghan people -- that they will ultimately be responsible for their own country."

Petraeus agreed with timetable, called it a "message of urgency." From the June 29 Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on Petraeus' nomination to be commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan (around 1:02:25):

SEN. JACK REED (D-RI): In the course of your colloquy with Senator McCain, you indicated that you did not make a recommendation with respect to a deadline, but your public statements indicate you support that approach. Is that correct?

PETRAEUS: That's correct.

REED: So that you're fully supportive of the president's policy, including beginning a transition based upon the conditions on the ground in July of 2011.

PETRAEUS: Let me be very clear if I could, Senator. And not only did I say that I supported it, I said that I agreed with it. This is, again, an agreement that was made back, of course, in the fall of last year, based on projections about conditions that we hoped we'd obtain, that we were going to strive to achieve in Afghanistan a full year from now. So that was, you know, an 18-month or more projection at that time.

As I mentioned in my opening statement, I saw this most importantly as the message of urgency to complement the message of enormous additional commitment. Let's remember that it wasn't just this 30,000 additional forces, the president -- and actually, the previous president had started some deployment of additional forces before he left office. But we started with some 30-, 31,000 U.S. forces in Afghanistan in 2009. And we will now be approaching 100,000 by the time of the deployment of the final 30,000. So this is a substantial additional commitment complemented, again, by a message of urgency.

Lieberman's, Graham's criticisms of timetable left unchallenged

Lieberman on Fox: "[O]n balance, I think it was a mistake." On the July 4 edition of Fox News Sunday, guest host Major Garrett asked Lieberman if he wanted "U.S. forces, the surge forces, to start leaving July of next year, or do you want them to stay longer and fight longer?" Lieberman said that while he understood why Obama established the timetable, "on balance, I think it was a mistake because it sent a message to the Afghans, to the Taliban, to people in the neighborhood that we're going to leave regardless, and that's not the fact. General Petraeus has clarified that, the president has come some distance now in the last couple of weeks and clarified that. Whatever we do in July of 2011 will be based on conditions on the ground at the time." Neither Garrett nor Lieberman noted that Petraeus has endorsed the timetable.

Graham on CBS: "General Petraeus needs this monkey off his back." Asked by guest host John Dickerson on the July 4 edition of CBS' Face the Nation whether the timetable "has affected the pace of the counterinsurgency," Graham said it did, claiming that "confusion and uncertainty ... needs to be clarified." After Dickerson noted that "the administration says that all they're talking about is withdrawal based on conditions. The president's always said that from the beginning," Graham responded by saying that Vice President Joe Biden "reassured me that it would be conditions-based," adding that "General Petraeus needs this monkey off his back. It's not fair to him and our troops and our civilian counterparts to be operating in Afghanistan with the belief that come July 2011, we're going to begin to withdraw no matter what." Neither Dickerson nor Graham noted that Petraeus has endorsed the timetable.

Tapper challenged McCain's criticism of timetable with Petraeus' statements

Tapper plays Petraeus video in response to McCain criticism. McCain said on the July 4 edition of ABC's This Week that the timetable is "what I worry about more than anything else," adding that "we need a conditions-based situation, not a date for withdrawal." Tapper noted that under the Bush administration, "[t]here was an unlimited commitment of U.S. troops for an unlimited amount of time there, and that didn't seem to be effective, and yet you're criticizing this July 2011 deadline, which would be the beginning of a transition period." McCain responded that "I'm all for dates for withdrawal, but that's after the strategy succeeds, not before." Tapper then played video of Petraeus at his confirmation hearing saying that "not only did I say that I supported [the timetable], I said that I agreed with it," and his description of the timetable as a "message of urgency." Tapper then asked McCain, "Is General Petraeus wrong?" McCain responded by saying that Obama "should state unequivocally that we will leave when we have succeeded, and to somehow put that burden on General Petraeus is not appropriate."

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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (July 04, 2010 5:18 pm ET)
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      When have facts ever mattered to this crew?

      "McCain responded that "I'm all for dates for withdrawal, but that's after the strategy succeeds, not before."

      Is McCain calling for a rejection of SOFA signed by GWB?

      Successful is not a word that can be accurately applied to the situation in Iraq, not according to news reporting coming from events that are still happening there.

      This dinosaur needs to retire.
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    • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (July 04, 2010 6:22 pm ET)
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      Since WHEN do the Sunday Morning shows ever challenge ANY politician on ANYTHING? These shows merely give a platform without the slightest disagreement.
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      • Author by phredicles (July 04, 2010 8:46 pm ET)
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        "But... but... if we challenge what they say, they might stop giving us ACCESS."
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        • Author by RiffRabbit (July 04, 2010 10:38 pm ET)
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          If these people in the media continue playing the lapdog instead of the watchdog, then I pray people are eventually going to get fed up and become the media themselves. Non-corporate media is the greatest threat to these so-called journalists.
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    • Author by DellDolly (July 05, 2010 4:30 am ET)
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      As I KEEP having to point out, the troops are not LEAVING next July - they are beginning to leave next July, but you wouldn't know that if you listened to FoxNews' Garrett!

      Major Garrett asked Lieberman if he wanted "U.S. forces, the surge forces, to start leaving July of next year, or do you want them to stay longer and fight longer?"

      They ARE going to stay longer and fight longer, Garrett - they are simply STARTING to leave on that date. This is not rocket science.

      The idea that a beginning timetable is somehow going to doom us is ridiculous, and that's why they keep pretending that it's something different!
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      • Author by DellDolly (July 06, 2010 12:16 pm ET)
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        FactCheck.org echoes what I said above in their Sunday recap.

        A Firm Date for … What Exactly?

        On ABC's "This Week," Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona made it sound as though President Obama would pull all troops out of Afghanistan in July 2011, regardless of what happens in the country. But the president never promised that all troops, or even a certain number, would be withdrawn. Instead, in announcing his decision to send an additional 30,000 troops to Afghanistan, Obama said he would "begin the transfer" in July 2011, "taking into account conditions on the ground."

        More recently, on June 24, Obama reiterated that: "We did not say that starting July 2011, suddenly there would be no troops from the United States or allied countries in Afghanistan. We didn't say we'd be switching off the lights and closing the door behind us. What we said is we'd begin a transition phase in which the Afghan government is taking on more and more responsibility."

        On CBS’ "Face the Nation," Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina repeated a false statement he made last week on "Fox News Sunday." Graham claimed that White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel had said July 2011 was "a firm date of withdrawal" from Afghanistan. Emanuel wasn't that definitive.

        Emanuel actually said on ABC's "This Week" on June 20 that the "firm date" is one that "deals with the troops that are part of the surge, the additional 30,000. What will be determined at that date or going into that date will be the scale and scope of that reduction." Emanuel didn't say that all troops, or even a significant number, would be withdrawn on that date. He said the number coming home would be "based on the conditions on the ground."

        As for White House Senior Advisor David Axelrod, he said on "Meet the Press" on June 13 that the White House "is committed to begin that process of withdrawal in July of next year, and that continues to be the plan, and we're going to pursue that on that schedule."
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