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Beck distorts King's legacy while blaming Sharpton for having "perverted" it

July 17, 2010 12:04 am ET — 83 Comments

In another attempt to co-opt the legacy of Martin Luther King Jr., Glenn Beck attacked Al Sharpton for "telling people that Martin Luther King's dream was really about redistribution of wealth." In fact, Sharpton accurately reflected the sentiments of King, who advocated for the "radical redistribution of economic power."

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Beck suggests Sharpton has "perverted" King's legacy

Beck: The civil rights movement "has been perverted and distorted" by people "like the Reverend Al Sharpton." On the July 16 edition of his Fox News show, Beck claimed that "the movement of the 1960s has been perverted and distorted" by people "like the Reverend Al Sharpton telling people that Martin Luther King's dream was really about redistribution of wealth." Beck aired a video clip of Sharpton, who stated that the "dream was to make everything equal in everybody's house." Beck responded by saying, "I don't remember that. Really?"

King advocated for the "radical redistribution of economic power"

King: "We are dealing with issues that cannot be solved without the nation ... undergoing a radical redistribution of economic power." In his book, Judgment Days: Lyndon Baines Johnson, Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Laws That Changed America, author Nick Kotz writes that during a 1968 trip to Mississippi, King stated: "It didn't cost the nation one penny to integrate lunch counters" and "[i]t didn't cost the nation one penny to guarantee the right to vote." However, he concluded that "now, we are dealing with issues that cannot be solved without the nation spending billions of dollars -- and undergoing a radical redistribution of economic power."

Sharpton's comments accurately reflect King's sentiments

Sharpton: "The dream was to make everything equal in everybody's house." The video of Sharpton that Beck aired was from a May 2 address Sharpton gave at the New Hope Baptist Church in Danbury, Connecticut. In the speech, Sharpton stated that "the dream was not to put one black family in the White House. The dream was to make everything equal in everybody's house." From Sharpton's May 2 speech: (around 11:50 -- text from the portion Beck aired in bold): 

SHARPTON: What bothered me then as I came -- I flew in from Washington -- and came straight to the church and was talking to the Reverend Pitts about right here in Connecticut. We're still faced with such social problems and social inequalities where the achievement gap in the schools is still so high between those that are making it and those that are not. And where you have 20 percent of the population in Connecticut black, but 70 percent of the folks in jail are black. I'm talking about in 2010.

So many of us that act as though the struggle for social justice and the struggle for right is over don't realize that the struggle is not over until we achieve equality. Someone was saying to me the other day, "Reverend Sharpton, we've got an African-American president; we've achieved the dream of Dr. King." And I told him that was not Dr. King's dream. It's a great thing. I've been working with the president and supporting the president, but the dream was not to put one black family in the White House. The dream was to make everything equal in everybody's house. President Obama being in the White House can help us get there, but we're not there yet. 

This is only Beck's latest attempt to co-opt King's legacy and the civil rights movement

Beck has frequently used civil rights movement for his own political agenda. Beck routinely uses both the civil rights movement and its rhetoric to advance his own political agenda. Among numerous other examples:

  • Beck claimed his followers "are the inheritors and the protectors of the civil rights movement." During the May 24 edition of his radio program, after playing the same Sharpton clip, Beck said:

BECK: That is not the dream. That is a perversion of the dream. We are the people of the civil rights movement. We are the ones that must stand for civil and equal rights -- equal rights, justice, equal justice. Not special justice, not social justice, but equal justice. We are the inheritors and the protectors of the civil rights movement. They are perverting it. They're perverting it, and they're doing it intentionally.

  • Beck claimed his August 28 rally will "reclaim the civil rights movement." During the May 26 edition of his radio show, Beck said of his August 28 rally:

BECK: This is a moment, quite honestly, that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement. It has been so distorted and so turned upside down. It is -- it's an abomination what has happened.

Do you have the Bertha Lewis audio? Bertha Lewis was arrested yesterday -- Bertha Lewis, ACORN, New York -- she was arrested at an anti-Arizona rally and they were locked in arms, singing "We Shall Overcome." How dare you?

[...]

BECK: I tell you right now: We are on the right side of history. We are on the side of individual freedoms and liberties, and damn it, we will reclaim the civil rights moment! We will take that movement, because we were the people that did it in the first place.

  • Beck: "I wouldn't be surprised if in our lifetime dogs and fire hoses are released or opened on us." During the April 9 edition of his radio program, Beck said:

BECK: The majority of people are not looking for fundamental transformation of America. But there are going to be boxes created. There are going to be the boxes created of the violent, just like there were the William Ayers; of the crazies, just like there were the dope-smoking hippies; and then the real reformers, the people like Martin Luther King.

We must put ourselves on that path and be unmovable. I have to tell you, I wouldn't be surprised if in our lifetime dogs and fire hoses are released or opened on us. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of us get a billy club to the head. I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, some of us go to jail, just like Martin Luther King did, on trumped-up charges.

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    • Author by vysotsky (July 17, 2010 1:07 am ET)
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      Does he even know who Sharpton is?
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      • Author by jackthere (July 17, 2010 10:46 am ET)
           
        seeing as he was on beck's program, I'd say yes. But that's a really good burn, dude. Do you write for the New York Times?
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      • Author by mary59 (July 17, 2010 12:13 pm ET)
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        Not so much. Sharpton has a record of self promotion, but he can give a barn burner of a speech and he certainly understands the need for equal rights.

        Unlike the Beck, who has promoted stupidity and ignorance regarding race (and every other issue) relentlessly, to appeal to his fans.

        It would be interesting to poll how many African Americans and other minorities are watchers of the Beck.
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        • Author by indigo1968 (July 18, 2010 9:58 am ET)
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          >>>Sharpton has a record of self promotion, but he can give a barn burner of a speech and he certainly understands the need for equal rights.

          Same goes for Jesse Jackson. An amazing public speaker, but a media whore to the highest degree.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 19, 2010 8:22 am ET)
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            It's an unfortunate aspect of both men. And I agree - neither of them seems to capture even a fraction of the class and eloquence and selflessness that Dr. King did. They really come off as it being all about THEM.

            HOWEVER...

            I'll admit that I can't possibly know how much of my positive impressions of Dr.King (who was assasinated five years before I was born after all) comes from the myth than the man (kind of like the Right and Reagan?) and likewise, how many of my negative impressions of Sharpton and Jackson come from their detractors, and the media, who are quick to portray them in exactly the way I percieve them. In every case the truth is probably somewhere in between, but it would be fascinating to see how Dr. King would percieve the world we're living today.

            So much (all?) of the open, legally madated, institutional racism that he fought against is gone. But it's been replaced by a more subtle, insideous, envious form of racism. (The kind that assumes that any minotrity (or woman) who achieves any kind of success, got it undeservedly through some kind of affirmative action, which screwed over some more qualified white guy, for example.) And indeed, with the election of Obama, there's no doubt it HAS become a bit more open and a bit less subtle!

            But it would be interesting to see how (of even IF) his rhetoric would be different from that of Jackson and Sharpton, or even if he would still be considered relevant.

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            In any case, he'd definitely not have too much good to say about a jackass like Beck.
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        • Author by Mitthead (July 19, 2010 12:16 am ET)
             
          It would be interesting to poll how many African Americans and other minorities are watchers of Olbermann or even that cute little boy, Maddow! Since they collectively have about a dozen regular viewers, I'm guessing the results of said poll would be putrid.
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        • Author by mari2jj (July 19, 2010 1:56 am ET)
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          Actually I heard someone say that Beck comes by his racism by rights, His Church has a long history of race inequality and supression of Black rights. Betty
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          • Author by elephant33525 (July 19, 2010 9:02 am ET)
               
            So basically your assumption is based strictly by rumors. Instead of reading this garbage on this website , why don't you spend some time to do your own homework and find out exactly who this man is...like I did, that's why I don't come here much if you the time or the patience , listen to his radio show in the am and watch his show for a week...than you can judge him. Dr. Alveda King (MLK's niece)is a close friend of Beck, she comes on the show periodically along with many black guests, from college professors to preachers to business men, also his staff includes black people,including his camera man . Beck was the first one who aired the Black Founding Fathers ..a history erased by Progressives ....look it up, you'll be surprised.
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      • Author by bintx (July 18, 2010 12:47 pm ET)
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        No, he doesn't and that little incident proved it. Such a stupid, ignorant little man.
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      • Author by the Grey Path (July 18, 2010 2:56 pm ET)
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        Why do we despise racism while putting up with Beck's extreme religous bigotry?
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        • Author by Johaely (July 18, 2010 5:10 pm ET)
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          Because he's like that kid in school that taunts you until you hit him back and then goes to the teachers screaming "he hit me!".
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      • Author by tinka (July 19, 2010 1:57 pm ET)
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        "Beck aired a video clip of Sharpton, who stated that the "dream was to make everything equal in everybody's house." Beck responded by saying, "I don't remember that. Really?"

        Beck doesn't remember that because he wasn't even born yet!
        (born February 10, 1964)
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    • Author by mjeatty (July 17, 2010 1:24 am ET)
         
      Beck has millions of fans who agree with the conservative political views he expresses on Fox. Unfortunately, it's impossible to know whether Beck really believes the things he says or whether it's all about entertaining and making money. After all, in an interview with Forbes where Beck disclosed that he made $32 million in the last 12 months, Beck said some pretty startling things. Forbes wrote: "Beck insists that he is not political: 'I could give a flying crap about the political process.' Making money, on the other hand, is to be taken very seriously, and controversy is its own coinage. 'We're an entertainment company,' Beck says.
      Whether he's trying to be serious or not, Beck is seriously confused. He simultaneously professes to be a Christian, a Mormon, and a devotee of Ayn Rand. Rand, a fiction writer, created the philosophy of Objectivism. Many, including former followers of Rand, say that Objectivism is a cult. Rand was a Christian-hating atheist whose philosophy identified individualism as the highest moral duty of each person. If you weren't one of the gifted, an innovator, you were a "leech" or parasite, according to Rand. A sexual libertine who was strongly pro-abortion, Rand is a person whom the average Beck listener would probably not choose to follow. The contradictions between Christianity and Randism are glaring, and it would be interesting to hear Beck attempt to resolve the contradictions. As Rand wrote: "Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong." I would like to know what Beck's premises really are.
      Another area in which Beck is confused is his recent attacks on Christians and Christian churches which believe in "social justice." This includes Roman Catholicism and most mainline Protestant denominations. It appears from transcripts of Beck's shows that he has confused the doctrine of "social justice" with the "social gospel" doctrine. Social justice merely teaches that Christians should work for a just society. It does not conflict with evangelicalism or Roman Catholicism and, in fact, is taught by most churches. The social gospel, on the other hand, was espoused around the turn of the Nineteenth Century by some theologians who taught that the primary work of the Church was to bring about a just society (as opposed to preaching the gospel of Christ and baptizing new Christians). It's influence waned over the course of the Nineteenth Century, although it has never died out.
      Reading the transcripts of Beck's rants against "social justice," one is left to wonder if Beck believes it is God's will to have "social injustice."






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    • Author by clearstate (July 17, 2010 3:06 am ET)
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      He doesn't know who his wife and kids are or where they live. He goes to a random house every night looking for them.
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    • Author by ActSci (July 17, 2010 3:11 am ET)
         
      "I say to you today, my friends, so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

      I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

      I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

      I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

      I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

      I have a dream today.

      I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

      I have a dream today.

      I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (July 17, 2010 7:33 am ET)
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      And who says Glenn Beck is psychotic...? ;>)
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      • Author by mari2jj (July 17, 2010 10:41 pm ET)
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        Maybe not psychotic but certainly racist, hateful and unable to allow others to have their own opinions. He rales about others but he is so disgusting. His mantle of religion is just a dodge. His language comes straight from the gutter at times, his hate mongering leaves anyone wondering if he EVER even read the New Testament and his racist rhetoric defies the ideals of the New Testament or the Book of Mormon, either one. He still shows all the traits of a dry drunk. Perhaps someday he can get "well" but it sounds too difficult of a task for him to accomplish. He seems to go backwards!
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    • Author by TruthOnly (July 17, 2010 9:13 am ET)
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      I cant get past Sharpton's above comment "And where you have 20 percent of the population in Connecticut black, but 70 percent of the folks in jail are black. I'm talking about in 2010."
      Why does he think they are in jail? Could it be they put themselves there, oh right its the white man holding him down. This excuse for blaming everyone else for their laziness and lack of moral character is really past old. Take responsibility for yourself. It's called pride and character.
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    • Author by Oldphoto678 (July 17, 2010 9:37 am ET)
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      The only truthful words to come out of Beck’s mouth during this whole discussion are “I don’t remember that. Really? Of course you don’t remember. You weren’t there! You weren’t even alive during the civil rights movement. You were just barley old enough to wipe your own butt when MLK was assassinated by one of your radical right wing southern conservative brothers.

      While I’m at it let me put the truth to another lie that Beck and the right like to tell. Beck and some on the right would have us believe that It was the republiCONs that championed the civil rights act. Well, they may have called themselves Republicans, but the bigger truth is that the republicans that were for the civil rights act were mostly liberal thinking northerners. Those that opposed were the same radical right wing southern racists that control the GOP and the Tea Party today.

      Glenn Beck and the righties can claim they were on the right side of history all the want to, but the absolute fact is that It’s pure bull.
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      • Author by soze169880 (July 17, 2010 10:32 am ET)
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        I just wanted to submit that Glenn Beck still doesn't necessarily know how to wipe his own butt, given the other areas of development that didn't really work out for him as he got older.
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        • Author by jackthere (July 17, 2010 10:45 am ET)
             
          i just want to point out that while disagreement on facts is a positive thing, bathroom talk makes you guys look intellectually impotent. And the comment about Beck being a brother of the person who assassinated Dr. King is completely absurd. Freedom of speech is a right, but it's also a responsibility. When you speak like that you reveal yourself. Quite ruinously, I might add.
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        • Author by Mitthead (July 19, 2010 12:18 am ET)
             
          Childish. Typical. Liberal.
          Just the kind of response anyone would expect from a bleeding heart Obamacon.
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    • Author by congero6189599 (July 17, 2010 11:22 am ET)
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      There was a good interview by counterspin/fair.org with the author of "Common Nonsense:Glenn Beck and the triumph of ignorance" Alexander Zaitchek(I have it on order)for anyone interested:

      http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=4113
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      • Author by rikntx (July 17, 2010 11:59 am ET)
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        Thanks for the link. Very intersting interview and will definitely need to read this book. I hope FAIR changes the transcript, towards the end, where Zaitchek is speaking of the funding for groups like Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks. The transcript reads Coke-funded and I believe it should read Koch-funded.
        Again, thanks for the link.
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    • Author by mmharris438182 (July 17, 2010 12:16 pm ET)
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      The really disturbing fact here to me is that lily white, former radio shock jock Glenn Beck, who has now become a mult-multi-millionaire TV superstar personality among far right-wing, particulorly religious, conservatives, is promoting the idea that the current "Marxist-socialist-liberal-progressive-Democtrat administration of native Kenyan-community organizer-racist rabble rouser Barak Hussein Obama" wants to redistribute wealth, which is code language for stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, or in this context taking away from the rich whites and giving to the poor blacks. This idea is inherently racist and simply poisons the political dialogue. As a white man, I think Glenn Beck has no shame.
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      • Author by ken1042 (July 17, 2010 8:57 pm ET)
           
        You wouldn't let truth stand in your way, I see. Obummer said he wants to redistribute the wealth when he was campaigning. Too bad truth only works against you libtards.
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      • Author by Mitthead (July 19, 2010 12:21 am ET)
           
        You have no shame for conjuring up your own crooked ideas and passing them off as some sort of hidden message behind Beck's words!

        Put yourself to the test: use Beck's WORDS against Obama's WORDS and take only literal meanings from what they say. Don't read into what they say...just listen to what they say. There's a rather stark contrast between the two. One is constantly lying, which is evidenced by his own words. The other is constantly using the actual words of people to simply bring them out into the open...exposing them for what they really are. My guess is you'll be unable to even begin this "test" let alone accomplish it without cheating.
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    • Author by pilotx (July 17, 2010 12:17 pm ET)
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      I'll be there in August to see this non-sense for myself. I'll have the "Dr. King died for Social justice" sign. I'm sure some of his idiotic follwers will question the sign but armed with facts about my frat brother I'll welcome any reasonable discussion. The first, and maybe only question, will be "why was he in Memphis when he was shot"? If they can't answer that it's time to move on and not engage. If all you know about the man is what you hear from Beck and Rush you have no right to claim any part of his legacy.
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      • Author by dogbreath (July 17, 2010 5:10 pm ET)
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        There are a few other people from the site going to Beck's Crazyfest 2010. Be sure to let us know how it goes and be careful. You will be swimming with some serious bottomdwellers.
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        • Author by pilotx (July 17, 2010 11:38 pm ET)
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          I'll take pics. Not really worried, the DCPD and the National Park Service PD know how to deal with sillyness.
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      • Author by edlipton (July 18, 2010 1:01 am ET)
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        Great opening question and I am willing to bet that not one of the Tea Partiers can answer that question correctly. I will tell them here so that if any of them actually read this they can answer. HE WAS THERE TO SUPPORT THE STRIKING GARBAGE COLLECTORS UNION.
        Somebody should collect a piece of garbage named Glen Beck and throw him on the trash heap.
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        • Author by Tess2 (July 18, 2010 10:12 am ET)
             
          Dr. King was in Memphis to support striking mostly African-American sanitation workers, who staged a walkout on February 11, 1968 to protest unequal wages and working conditions. At the time, the city paid black workers significantly lower wages than whites. I'm sorry, but I'm missing the point of your post.
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      • Author by Mitthead (July 19, 2010 12:24 am ET)
           
        Dr. King never insisted that people give (or be forced to give) TO THE GOVERNMENT in order for the government to then distribute those materials to people whom they deem as less-fortunate! There's a huge difference between social justice and equal justice. There's a huge difference between social justice and Christianity!!!
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    • Author by politeradical (July 17, 2010 12:31 pm ET)
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      I wonder if Beck's contract with Fox has a requirement that he stay OFF his meds?
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    • Author by NoNannyNeeded (July 17, 2010 12:31 pm ET)
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      watch this
      Funny how MMFA's article doesn't mention having Alveda King, and Stephen Browden nad what they had to say.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (July 17, 2010 1:07 pm ET)
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        So you got away from your nannies again?
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      • Author by congero6189599 (July 17, 2010 1:16 pm ET)
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        That women doesn't know what the hell she is talking about.
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      • Author by soze169880 (July 17, 2010 1:40 pm ET)
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        Why would it need to? Beck claims MLK was anti-redistribution, and this post proves Beck is lying. Not that hard. Of course, I'm sure that won't really change your mind on him, considering you called him a dirty Commie already.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (July 17, 2010 2:12 pm ET)
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        You are not interested in Martin Luther King Jr.s words or his life because if you really beleived in what he was saying you'd go rright to the source and hear for yourself what he said in his own words. Alveda King may be his niece but she doesn't know what she was talking about and she comes into conflict with others in her family. That being said lets return to King's own words. I present the speech Dr, King gave explaining why he was against the war in Viet Nam. In it he explains his ideas not only about poverty and war, capitalist and communism but about social justice and governments moral responsibility to the poor.
        Ain't going to study war no more!!!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80Bsw0UG-U&feature=related

        The speech is 22:49 in lenght but surely one who is genuinely interested in getting to the truth and not just throwing BS would take the time to listen. Let me highlight some spots for you:

        4:22--He speaks about the poor and the poverty program and war cont. to 6:43

        6:43 He begins speaking of the inequality of those fighting on the frontlines and the inequality here at home

        8:00-- Listen to who and why he calls America the greatest Purveyor of violence in the World

        11:00-1154---Who we were supporting in Viet Nam(see any similarities today?) and land reform(rotwoh theirs that redistrubution thing agsin)

        12:45---- *****This is really important and goes to the heart of his speech. In this section MLK calls for a Radical Revolution of Values. Listen very closely (This is the part that clearly shows Alveda King is full bunk) listen to what he says about colonialism and neo-colonialsim around 13:45

        15:00 Listen to what he says about the priorities of a government that spends more on the military than social programs.

        If you need more proof I direct you to the speech MLK gave to the Sanitation workers in Memphis in support of their strike,the next day he was murdered. You must remember he was there to support the striking sanitation workers ? Heres a question for you : Can you tell me why the sanitation workers were striking? Why would King support it and how is that not fighting for social justice? Why do you support a person like Beck who lies and distorts history to further his own desire for money and fame?

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        • Author by congero6189599 (July 17, 2010 2:31 pm ET)
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          Here are some excerpts from the Memphis speech with some excellent background and footage of the strike.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBDgH435oaU&NR=1
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          • Author by mary59 (July 17, 2010 3:18 pm ET)
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            thank you.
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            • Author by eb (July 17, 2010 8:58 pm ET)
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              Beck, once again, is doing exactly what he accuses liberals and progressives of doing - distorting history for political purposes.
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            • Author by congero6189599 (July 18, 2010 7:27 am ET)
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              your very welcome Mary. Can't let blatant lies like nannyneeded posted go unanswered.
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        • Author by cugagcmu805031 (July 17, 2010 3:55 pm ET)
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          Because he/she is one of the following:

          ***A person who doesn't like researching the real facts about any subject and would prefer that someone explain everything he/she needs to know to him/her because thinking for one's self is just too hard (I had many students who were like this)

          ***Someone who has a serious cognitive dissonance problem and even when presented with facts, refuses to change because he/she finds it too painful to face the reality of a situation

          ***Someone who looks up to their betters and thinks that if one is rich/famous/handsome/beautiful, this is all that is required to cast one's lot with him/her

          None of these talking heads on their favorite non-news channel cares about them, except to relieve them of their cold, hard cash by hosting a rally, selling/promoting a new book, or giving a speech, almost all of which never comes without a price attached.
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          • Author by dogbreath (July 17, 2010 5:14 pm ET)
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            Beck relies on people's laziness -- he tells people what the Founder's "said" but never really says where he read his bunk - what letter, what pamphlet, etc. Many in his audience don't know any better, they haven't read the original founding documents of the country past the Constitution and the Declaration. There is SO much more and most are just to lazy to research it for themselves.
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            • Author by Mitthead (July 19, 2010 12:30 am ET)
                 
              Yeah, except for the several times he's actually had the literal and original documents on display ON HIS VERY SET at Fox News Studios! Yeah, just pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...I think Soros is his name. Sheesh.
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        • Author by MaineiacMan (July 18, 2010 8:57 am ET)
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          He's talking about a government with poor policies and priorities....which one could argue is still a problem today. He IS NOT talking about equal stuff in everyones house. He IS talking about equal OPPORTUNITY in everyones house. Why are you trying to twist the content of a great man's speech to make him look like a marxist!? It makes YOU look like a marxist!
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          • Author by congero6189599 (July 18, 2010 11:52 am ET)
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            Who is talking about equal STUFF in everyones house? Trying to make him look Marxist? I see your simple brain refuses to accept any concepts that don't fit on a bumper sticker. You do realize that King was called a marxist,and socialist led rable rouser by those very same folks that are now trying re-write his story. You apparently can't refute what MLK was calling for was social justice(social justice is not equal stuff in everyones house...jezzz you have no idea what your're talking about listen at the 12:45 mark,listen at the 4:22 mark and he speaks about the poverty program,hint he was for increasing it does that make him a Marxist? How about being FOR land reform in Viet Nam?),you can't accept that the speech I linked to shoots down what Glenn Beck and his two guest were saying. Your comment that we are making him out to be a marxist is just recognition that what you were being told by Beck and his guest are a pack of lies. MLK was no marxist but he did stand and fight for social justice. You notice that I used MLK's anti-war speech and parts of his final speech bwefore he was murdered to make my points. I didn't make him look marxist your Beck filled misinformed mind caused you to interpret the information that way. I suggest you broaden the sources you get your information from and shore up your bunk detector as a start to becoming a "independent thinker" or not. It's easier I know to just accept what your're told especially if it fits what YOU want to hear but don't pass that off as critical thinking at least not on a public forum where others can see it.
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          • Author by pete592 (July 18, 2010 8:04 pm ET)
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            Why are you trying to twist the content of a great man's speech to make him look like a marxist!?
            In the last years of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s life, many mainstream journalists and conservative politicians treated him with fear and derision. In 1967, Life magazine (4/21/67) dubbed King's prophetic anti-war address "demagogic slander" and "a script for Radio Hanoi." Even years later, Ronald Reagan described King as a near-Communist.

            For years now, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King and his associates have been deliberately undermining the foundations of internal order in this country. With their rabble-rousing demagoguery, they have been cracking the "cake of custom" that holds us together. With their doctrine of "civil disobedience," they have been teaching hundreds of thousands of Negroes - particularly the adolescents and the children - that it is perfectly alright to break the law and defy constituted authority if you are a Negro-with-a-grievance; in protest against injustice.
            --- Will Herberg, National Review, Sept. 1965
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            • Author by MiniTru (July 19, 2010 8:37 am ET)
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              Well, to be fair, that was the National Review, Bill Buckley's rag. I wouldn't expect them to have anything positive to say about any black man of the time.
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        • Author by Tess2 (July 18, 2010 10:20 am ET)
             
          Again, I'm not sure I understand the thinking here. Dr. King was a civil rights activist, who opposed inequality and discrimination. In Memphis, 1,300 mostly black sanitation workers went on strike because of unequal pay and working conditions. Of course, Dr. King would lend his support. And why does that support your argument that he believed in the redistribution of wealth to help level the playing field for the underprivileged? To me, it's a matter of equal pay for equal work, end of story.
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        • Author by Mitthead (July 19, 2010 12:28 am ET)
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          My God. Have you no clue about the massive differences between social justice and equal justice? What was MLK really (REALLY) fighting for? Huh? If you squeeze out your personal political persuations and think about this honestly then I'm positive you'll come up with a reasonable conclusion.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (July 17, 2010 4:09 pm ET)
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        You should change your screen name since its' meaning isn't reflected in your comment. We African Americans don't march in lockstep with King, Jackson, Sharpton, Jealous, Browden, or any other prominent African American, even President Obama. If we were to march in lockstep with them, we'd be dependent upon them to tell us what to do/think/feel, creating a type of nanny mindset. We do the same thing that other Americans do: we make up our own mind on an individual basis.

        Thinking that one/few African Americans' opinions reflect, or can influence, millions of other African Americans is very short-sighted. You may revere Glenda and the rest of the non-news crew, but to many African Americans, their opinions are held in the same low regard as those of King and Browden.
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      • Author by MaineiacMan (July 17, 2010 4:33 pm ET)
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        I noticed that too! Funny how that got 'glossed over'....but with this crowd, if MMfA is selling ....they'll buy it all day long!
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        • Author by eb (July 17, 2010 9:19 pm ET)
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          I noticed that too! Funny how that got 'glossed over'....but with this crowd, if MMfA is selling ....they'll buy it all day long!

          Its hard to take seriously people who prefer fantasy to reality. I for one find it incredible that a media attack hack like Glenn Beck has somehow discovered that MLK was really a conservative like him. Wow! How did we all miss this? Even people that new MLK and saw MLK speak missed this.



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          • Author by MaineiacMan (July 18, 2010 9:00 am ET)
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            Equal FREEDOMS and equal OPPORTUNITY for ALL is something we can all rally for. Fighting for equal stuff in everyones house is not something King stood for. It is something that Sharpton stands for though.
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            • Author by eb (July 18, 2010 9:43 am ET)
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              Fighting for equal stuff in everyones house is not something King stood for. It is something that Sharpton stands for though.

              GROW UP!!! It is infantile to say the least to assume that because someone does not agree with you, that automatically makes their position extreme. It is a dishonest and lazy mind that finds the straw man every time in order to avoid the confusion of the real world.

              I am so sorry to inform you that wealth redistribution is a fact of life and most of the time it goes from the less wealthy to the more wealthy. People like MLK saw distributing wealth to the less fortunate as an investment and as a way to correct an unjust dysfunctional economic system. Yes, soak that in - MLK saw economic injustice as a serious problem. Now according to libertarian conservatives, the only form of economic injustice is taxation. This works for them because their extreme ideology demands it.

              Fighting for equal stuff in everyone's house is a straw man. Maybe Mao and Stalin wanted this. Its too bad the fine details of reality elude so many conservatives. Newsflash: Stalinism and Maoism are not the same as a progressive taxation, community investment and social safety nets.

              Wealth does not just come from individual efforts. There is a societal support system and social and natural capital that underpins wealth accumulation. Conservatives want us to forget all that in order to make wealth redistribution to the already wealthy look virtuous.
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              • Author by congero6189599 (July 18, 2010 11:58 am ET)
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                I think we are debating a child if not in age at least in thought process.
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              • Author by bilbo_dies (July 19, 2010 11:40 am ET)
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                I am so sorry to inform you that wealth redistribution is a fact of life and most of the time it goes from the less wealthy to the more wealthy. People like MLK saw distributing wealth to the less fortunate as an investment and as a way to correct an unjust dysfunctional economic system.

                I think this is a point that needs to be reiterated. We are currently (and have been historically) involved in a system the "redistributes wealth". As pointed out by eb that usually means taking money from the masses and giving it to a small percentage of the population.

                Anyone who thinks a poor black kid has the same opportunities as an upper middle class kid is delusional.
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      • Author by internet soldier (July 17, 2010 5:39 pm ET)
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        Better yet, look at what Dr. King had to say. Can you really argue that King's "guaranteed income" proposal isn't the kind of thing that Beck normally sees as proof that one is a communist agent of the new world order, or something like that?
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        • Author by eb (July 17, 2010 9:21 pm ET)
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          Beck has somehow made Woodrow Wilson into a lefty radical and MLK into some sort of proto Reagan. Beck must think he can tell his audience anything and they will believe it.
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      • Author by mari2jj (July 17, 2010 10:52 pm ET)
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        Actually I heard it all. It is so stupid for anyone to think that blacks think and vote and write and talk in a monolith. That idea is certainly racist. So, because two blacks went on the Beck program, two obvious far to the right folks, you think the black community is thrilloed with the Beck racism. I can tell you for certain, they are not. But like all communities, theirs is not in a monolith. There are all sorts of opinions in Black, White, Hispanic, Immigrants, etc. etc. etc. The idea that Beck found two people to come on his program that he apparently assumes supports his point of view so he is right, well that is just stupid!
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      • Author by bintx (July 18, 2010 12:48 pm ET)
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        That's because these people are insignificant and have been debunked by King's REAL family.
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      • Author by Mitthead (July 19, 2010 12:25 am ET)
           
        Funny...or convenient? Of course they wouldn't disclose such damning information as that, NoNanny!

        ...these are not the droids you are looking for...
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    • Author by sen (July 17, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
         
      So is Dr. Martin Luther King Jr's niece, Dr. Alveda King, a bigot, racist, just a crazy like glenn?? I find it amusing that all over the web is nasty, threatening, negative comments toward glenn beck and yet people find it hard to do the same to Alveda King when she will stand side by side with Beck. What is that about? I am proud of her for carrying her uncle's dream forward.
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    • Author by KLACE (July 17, 2010 1:07 pm ET)
         
      I don't think Beck is trying "co-opt King's legacy." He has stated that Martin Luther King had a "human idea" that no one can ever own. Just as no one could ever own Lincoln or Gandhi. In the 50's and 60'S, as we all know and never will forget, there were "social evils" and Dr. Martin Luther King witnessed it, lived it and wanted it gone along with other several civil right movements that happened across the world. One of the points of the show was Dr. King's "legacy" wasn't that we should have all have the same stuff in our homes as Sharpton said. Was King's foundation socilaim/communism or was it Christ? His guest on the show were Stehen Broden and Dr. Alveda King (MLK'S niece). It really was a good show.
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    • Author by MaineiacMan (July 17, 2010 4:32 pm ET)
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      That was a great show on Friday! Alveda King is an amazing woman. It really is about individual rights and fairness and equality in OPPORTUNITY, not RESULTS!

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      • Author by dogbreath (July 17, 2010 5:15 pm ET)
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        Do you know how old Alveda King is?
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      • Author by Johaely (July 17, 2010 5:26 pm ET)
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        Just like Obama's poll numbers, one source is more than enough for you guys.

        Why don't you use the original words of the man and not an interpretation that suits your point?
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        • Author by soze169880 (July 17, 2010 8:24 pm ET)
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          Because that contradicts the opinion they've already arrived at.
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        • Author by eb (July 17, 2010 9:26 pm ET)
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          Why don't you use the original words of the man and not an interpretation that suits your point?

          Don't expect an answer to that one.
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      • Author by raddave43 (July 18, 2010 10:48 am ET)
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        equality in opportunity and not results? WTF is that suppose to mean? The Civil Rights movement has been and always will be about equal opportunity. NO ONE has ever stood up and said that everyone should have equal results.
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      • Author by bintx (July 18, 2010 12:50 pm ET)
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        Alveda King is someone who has made her "reputation" claiming kinship to MLK. That's it. I'm the neice of 20 different aunts and uncles . . . I would NEVER presume to speak for them regarding their beliefs.

        Nice try, though.
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    • Author by ken1042 (July 17, 2010 8:54 pm ET)
         
      Looks to me like King's niece agrees with Beck on this one. I guess you don't let truth ever stand in the way, though, do you?
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    • Author by XVX (July 17, 2010 10:31 pm ET)
         
      ROFL! Beck did have on the neice of MLK to that very show, but I know, facts for you guys is cherry picking. I bet if Media Matters wrote a story about how liberals weren't actually the slave holders of the past, you would believe it.
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    • Author by XVX (July 17, 2010 10:34 pm ET)
         
      ROFL again! I should have expected you moderate your comments, that's how you control your message.
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    • Author by JoshSN (July 18, 2010 4:27 pm ET)
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      I know the King's thinking covered a lot more ground than just Civil Rights. I know, for example, that he spoke a lot against the war in Vietnam.

      I don't actually know much about his economic thinking. Do you have more than just this one quote? Can you recommend something I could read to learn more about the matter?
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      • Author by congero6189599 (July 18, 2010 4:34 pm ET)
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        I posted this above. It's MLK's speech he gave detailing why he was against the war but he touches on many issues.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80Bsw0UG-U&feature=related
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      • Author by tinka (July 19, 2010 3:07 pm ET)
           
        The Economics of Martin Luther King, Jr.We're supposed to venerate Martin Luther King, Jr., but that's not easy for a believer in economic liberty.
        www.lewrockwell.com/archives/fm/02-91.html

        Myths of Martin Luther King Jr.
        http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/epstein9.html

        http://www.thenation.com/article/dr-martin-luther-kings-economics-through-jobs-freedom
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    • Author by Mitthead (July 19, 2010 12:15 am ET)
         
      It's kind of hard to argue against the facts and logic Mr. Beck uses on a nightly basis. Even when the flesh and blood of Dr. King concurs with the logic of Beck there will still be a contingent of bleeding hearts who refuse to hear the subtle truths being laid out before them. It's amazing to me that such an obvious neglect of facts and raw logic are perpetuated by an alarming number of people.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 19, 2010 8:12 am ET)
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      I tell you right now: We are on the right side of history. We are on the side of individual freedoms and liberties, and damn it, we will reclaim the civil rights moment!

      And the first thing were going to do is throw out all the damned Mexicans!!!

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      How can people really be THIS stupid?
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    • Author by themarvins (July 19, 2010 4:41 pm ET)
         
      Nice that you didn't even include in your story that he had Dr. King, Rev. King's neice on his show who agreed with everything he said. You probably won't even put this comment on your page.
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