O'Reilly falsely claims New Black Panthers said "they want to kill white babies" at polling place
Bill O'Reilly falsely claimed that members of the New Black Panthers were "standing in front of a polling place and saying they want to kill white babies." In fact, O'Reilly conflated two separate incidents: Video of a member of the New Black Panther Party suggesting the murder of babies is from a documentary produced prior to Election Day 2008.
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O'Reilly's falsehood: New Black Panthers were "saying they want to kill white babies" at polling place
O'Reilly: New Black Panthers were "standing in front of a polling place and saying they want to kill white babies." O'Reilly attacked the mainstream media for failing to cover the New Black Panthers case, which he described as "guys with batons standing in front of a polling place and saying they want to kill white babies." From the July 23 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
O'REILLY: The establishment liberal media that you and I both talked about said, look, we don't like this tea party business. This could really amount to something, and it already has in places like Kentucky. So we don't like it -- and it's all primarily whites, so let's call them racists. Let's throw that charge out there, and there'll be a few nuts that help us with that. So that was established, all right.
So, then, conservative Americans or tea party supporters, whatever, they got angry about that. And then they started to look, all right, you know, OK, let's -- and then the Black Panthers show up. Oh, look at that. And then, as you pointed out, the media didn't cover that, and they're going, wait a minute, you're demonizing the tea party for being racist, but here we've got guys with batons standing in front of a polling place and saying they want to kill white babies, and you don't mention it.
FACT: Hate speech is from video produced prior to Election Day 2008 incident
Civil Rights Commission general counsel: "National Geographic Channel's documentary" was "produced in 2008, before the election." In a video produced prior to Election Day 2008 -- not, as O'Reilly stated, in front of the polling place -- a member of the New Black Panther Party states, "You want freedom? You're going to have to kill some crackers. You're going to have to kill some of their babies." During an April 23 hearing of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, David Blackwood, the commission's general counsel, introduced the video as evidence, including what he said was "the National Geographic Channel's documentary on the New Black Panther Party." Blackwood said that the documentary was "produced in 2008, before the election." From Blackwood's comments introducing video evidence to the commission:
BLACKWOOD: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What we're going to show in this next segment are three video clips that the Commission has obtained. The first -- and they will run one right after the other. The first is from the National Geographic Channel's documentary on the New Black Panther Party, which was obtained by subpoena.
The documentary was produced in 2008, before the election. It has background as to the New Black Panther Party. It shows clips of statements from Malik Zulu Shabazz, who is head of the party, and has footage and comments from the New Black Panther Party members who were at the Fairmount Street Polling Place: Minister King Samir Shabazz and Jerry Jackson.
He's getting older & i hear the Poor guy can only have Sex on his Back.
Shame is when you make an Honest mistake & then realize that you were Wrong.
Evil is when you intentionally say something to Hurt Blacks just to inflame your Throngs.
Speak truth to power.
Mr. News
O'Reilly is trying to act as though this guy actually DID something for which he should have been arrested - because otherwise, the rightwing furor over the issue is exposed as all having been part of an act!
And sorry to have to inform you of this, O'Reilly, but the First Amendment protects this fool's free speech, even if what he says is really obnoxious!
At the risk of stereotyping, which is one I guess I'll take, O'Reilly is typical of a particular kind of Northeastern, Long Island descendant of Irish immigrants. The roots go back to the Civil War draft riots. He has a visceral dislike, distrust of people of color, and it is just in him, part of him. He's no more likely to change it than the color of his eyes.
I know many, many people like Bill. You have to overlook their racial views in order to be friends with them. It can be done, and once done, they are okay. They actually understand that you find that part of them abhorrent, but since it is usually, make that always, just talk on their part, it doesn't mean much practically.
The other peculiar thing is that, when they -- and I am thinking about several particular people here --- deal with individual people of color, they are okay. It's only when they talk about an undifferentiated mass that they express racism.
Hey Bill: Even if this was true SO WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yea this is news. Some crazy guy was standing around a polling place almost two years ago. This is so completely irrelevant. It had no effect on the election and it has nothing to do with anything happening right now.
It does get all of the Fox viewers hysterical and fearful of some kind of ghetto liberal threat.
And besides, what is scarier; hundreds of folks mobbing an office, or the scary(evil) BLACK MAN!!!11!
Ref: Brooks Brothers riot vs. NBPP
/snark
Here's some historical info, not to be confused with O'Really's hysterical info:
These are the results of the last three presidential races at this polling place.
2000
Al Gore 382 votes George W. Bush 8 votes
2004
John Kerry 501 votes George W. Bush 24 votes
2008
Barack Obama 596 votes John McCain 13 votes
Source
Did I fear for my safety? No. But then again, I'm a man, women sometimes feel different within the same groups of people, or in the same locations.
Or are you saying I'm lying about working three blocks away and not being afraid? I live in NJ now, but I've lived and worked within the Philadelphia city limits for more than thirty years.
I think you just shot yourself in the foot. You're attempting to Breitbart both epkklk851 and me.
So once again, your attempt to refute has floundered. All you're doing with comments like this is to confirm everyone's idea that teabaggers are mislead, misinformed and proud of their ignorance.
Is the NBP really an organization that progressives want to defend against misinformation?
Never proven to be true, first of all. Second, even if something of the sort did happen, it would have been done by a few people during a rally of thousands. That you would say that 1500 people spit on and hurled slurs at a "civil rights hero" shows how flawed your views are.
So nobody should point out right wing misinformation if it's directed at an organization we don't agree with? If O'Reilly makes a false claim about David Duke, then I would hope that someone would be able to point that out without being accused of sympathizing with or defending David Duke.
So nobody should point out right wing misinformation if it's directed at an organization we don't agree with? If O'Reilly makes a false claim about David Duke, then I would hope that someone would be able to point that out without being accused of sympathizing with or defending David Duke.
Why must you lie again, MMFA? O'reilly never said the Black Panthers were saying they wanted to kill white babies WHILE standing at a polling place. He just said they did both things, which they did: 1. They were standing at a polling place with batons. 2. The did say black people should kill white babies.
But, nice job defending people who said they wanted to kill white people, specificaly babies. Stay classy, MMFA. Stay classy.
No one here including Media Matters, is "defending" these nutcases. The challenge for you is to understand the distinction. O'Reilly has every right to call out these guys but why not do it honestly?
I firmly believe that the men saying "crackers" are going to have to be "killed" as well as their babies in order to have freedom is beyond the pale. I hope that everyone here will openly denounce these men as bigoted pigs. Killing white babies in order to have freedom!! As far as I'm concerned the "New Black Panther Party" is a dangerous and vile organization that deserves to be denounced by every self respecting citizen of this nation. Does anyone know whether of not the leader of this radical group has denounced these statements?
And it's also worth pointing out that there weren't "guys with batons" standing in front of the polling center, as O'Reilly claims. That's another lie. There was one guy with one baton.