About us Login Get email updates
Research
Print

Beck denies being "responsible" for planned massacre at office of group he demonized

July 29, 2010 2:07 pm ET — 203 Comments

Glenn Beck has denied being "responsible" for a planned attack on the leaders of the Tides Foundation, a nonprofit organization Beck has repeatedly demonized. Beck has said that he "stand[s] by each one" of his attacks on the group and lauded his coverage of the organization.

CA shooter targeted Tides, wanted "to start a revolution"

CA gunman wanted to "start a revolution" by "killing people of importance at the Tides Foundation." On July 18, Byron Williams, a convicted felon, engaged in a shootout with police after being pulled over on I-580 in California. Williams was heavily armed, wearing body armor and wielding "a high-powered hunting rifle, a pistol and a shotgun." After being taken into custody, Williams reportedly told investigators that "his intention was to start a revolution by traveling to San Francisco and killing people of importance at the Tides Foundation and the ACLU."

Gunman's mother: Williams watched TV news, was upset with "the way Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items." Following her son's arrest, Williams' mother told the San Francisco Chronicle that her son was angry about "what's happening to our country." The Chronicle reported that Williams "watched the news on television" and that his mother stated that he was upset with "the way Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items."

Beck tipped the scale of Tides coverage before Williams' attempted attack

In virtually the only cable or network TV coverage of Tides, Beck mentioned the group 29 times on his Fox News show. As Media Matters has detailed, a LexisNexis search reveals that the Tides Foundation has been mentioned 29 times on Fox News' Glenn Beck in the time between the show's premiere and Williams' attempted rampage. In contrast, the Tides Foundation has not been mentioned once on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, or PBS in the same timeframe.

Beck called Tides a "shady organization" and accused it of "indoctrination," "warp[ing] your children's brains." In his coverage of Tides, Beck has repeatedly implicated the organization in his conspiracy theories, linking it to George Soros, the Apollo Alliance, the Joyce Foundation, and the Weather Underground. Beck has referred to the group as a "shady organization" [May 11] and claimed it is "a major source of revenue for some of the most extreme groups on the left" [May 21, 2009]. Beck frequently airs a video produced by Tides, which he refers to as an "indoctrination video...shown in schools all across America to warp you children's brains and make sure they know how evil capitalism is" [June 21].

Beck denies being "responsible" for planned attack, lauds his coverage of Tides

Beck mocks idea that "I am now responsible for terrorist attacks." On the July 29 edition of The Glenn Beck Program, Beck discussed the thwarted rampage in California and decried criticism of his coverage the Tides Foundation, claiming that his critics "are now imaging me as a terrorist and a racist." Co-host Pat Gray called the charges "unbelievable" while Beck stated in disbelief: "So I expose the Tides Foundation and show you what it is, and I am now responsible for terrorist attacks."

Beck: "I stand by each one" of my attacks on Tides Foundation. Beck continued on to defend his attacks against Tides, saying of his accusations of the group "being anti-capitalist, far-left radicals and indoctrinating children" that "I stand by each one of those." Beck also said it was "obscene" that "[t]here are no records of any other talk show mentioning the Tides Foundation" and that "I am the only one that has mentioned the Tides Foundation."

Beck producer Stu Burguiere calls accusations "liberal spin." On the fourth hour of Beck's July 27 radio show, available only to "Insider Extreme" subscribers, Beck's executive producer Stu Burguiere defended Beck against claims appearing on "liberal blogs" suggesting he inspired the actions of Williams, Burguiere called such the accusations "really pathetic" and stated that "just because some idiot goes and does something, you can't blame -- you cannot blame the host of a program who's talked about that organization."

Beck: Putting Tides Foundation on blackboard was "the first time that I really realized its success." On July 28, in a special podcast titled "Fundamental Transformation" for paying subscribers to his website, Beck called his chalkboard "the real star of the show." Beck then stated that "the first time I really realized its success: Tides Foundation and ACORN."

Beck brags about "turning the light of day" on Tides Foundation. On the July 26 edition of his radio show, Beck bragged that "everyone told us that we couldn't" explain what Tides was but that "the reason why the blackboard really became what the blackboard is" was because of his coverage of the group. Beck aired criticism of his coverage of the Tides Foundation from Color of Change's James Rucker and claimed Rucker was saying that Beck is "a danger because no one knew what Tides was until the blackboard. Meaning, that they need the cover of darkness. They must silence people that turn the light of day on to these organizations."

Beck continues to include Tides in his conspiracy theories since thwarted attack

Beck: "Why wouldn't you want us talking about Tides?" On the July 25 edition of his Fox News show, Beck responded to Rucker's criticism of his Tides coverage by asking, "why wouldn't you want us talking about Tides?" Beck went on to ask, "Why would you hide it" if Tides were simply "helping people" and "working for social justice."

Beck links Tides to Weather Underground in plot to redistribute wealth. On the July 28 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck, Beck attempted to tie the Tides Foundation to the Weather Underground. Beck read a portion of the Weather Underground's "manifesto." He then commented, "Now, when I first read this, I thought, boy, where have I seen this before? And then, it dawned on me. George Soros funded the Tides Foundation, which funded the "Story of Stuff," which is now shown, most likely, in your child's school." From Glenn Beck:

BECK: We stopped at -- there's no property rights, because the ignorant masses -- you know, the bigots or the stupid -- they like the free market. They have some stuff.

And what the ignorant masses don't understand -- by the way, that's you, you're clinging to your silly traditions and your God and your guns -- the truth is: your wealth really isn't your wealth. In the truly progressive society, in this society that they wanted, wealth belongs to the world.

Quote, "The relative affluence existing in the United States is directly dependent upon the labor and the natural resources of the Vietnamese -- remember this is written in the 1960s -- the Angolans, and the Bolivians and the rest of the peoples of the third world. All the of the United Airlines, Astrojets, all of the Holiday Inns, all of the Hertz's automobiles, your television set, your you're your wardrobe already belong, to a large degree, to the people of the rest of the world."

Now, when I first read this, I thought, boy, where have I seen this before? And then, it dawned on me. George Soros funded the Tides Foundation, which funded the "Story of Stuff," which is now shown, most likely, in your child's school. Watch.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE [video clip]: Then, along came the corporation. Now, the reason the corporation looks bigger than the government is that the corporation is bigger than the government. Of the 100 largest economies on earth now, 51 are corporations. And as the corporation has grown in size and power, we've seen a little change in the government where they're a little more concerned in making sure everything's working out for those guys than for us.

BECK: If you're familiar with this, we've played this before. It shows how we have gone and raped the rest of the world, so our stuff isn't ours.

Yes, it is all of this capitalist greed that is causing all of the problems on the entire planet. It is our system and it is set up to make sure that it stays that way -- and the Weather Underground talk about, it's going to stay that way by force.

Beck has a history of promoting violent rhetoric

Beck pours gasoline on "average American," asks, "President Obama, why don't you just set us on fire?" On his television show, Beck claimed to be imitating Obama while pouring liquid from a gasoline can -- which he later stated was water -- on an actor portraying the "average American." Beck said during his demonstration: "President Obama, why don't you just set us on fire? ... We didn't vote to lose the republic."[Fox News' Glenn Beck, 4/9/09]

Beck portrays Obama, Democrats as vampires, suggests "driv[ing] a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers." On his March 30, 2009, Fox News show, Beck aired a graphic portraying Obama and Democrats as vampires and said: "The government is full of vampires, and they are trying to suck the lifeblood out of the economy." Beck then suggested "driv[ing] a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers." Beck returned to that imagery on his January 19 radio show, warning listeners that progressives are "vampires" who now have a "taste of blood" and are "gonna start getting more and more violent."

Beck talks about "put[ting] poison" in Pelosi's wine. In 2009, Beck's Fox News show featured a segment in which Beck said the following to a woman wearing a mask of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi:

BECK: So, Speaker Pelosi, I just wanted to -- you gonna drink your wine? Are you blind? Do those eyes not work? There you -- I want you to drink it now. Drink it. Drink it. Drink it.

I really just wanted to thank you for having me over here to wine country. You know, to be invited, I thought I had to be a major Democratic donor or a longtime friend of yours, which I'm not.

By the way, I put poison in your -- no, I -- I look forward to all the policy discussions that we're supposed to have -- you know, on health care, energy reform, and the economy. [Glenn Beck, 8/6/09]

Beck: "To the day I die, I am going to be a progressive hunter." Telling his listeners that they "are going to learn so much on Friday," Beck compared himself to "Israeli Nazi hunters" and commented: "I'm going to find these big progressives and, to the day I die, I'm going to be a progressive hunter." He added:

BECK: I'm going to find these people that have done this to our -- you know, to our country, and expose them. I don't care where -- I don't care if they're in nursing homes. I'm going to expose what they have done and make sure that the people understand, because our Constitution, our republic -- if it survives -- it will only survive because the people are waking up and through the grace of God, because we are that close to losing our republic. [The Glenn Beck Program, 1/20/10]

Beck: "Grab a torch." Asserting that politicians are addicted to spending, Beck stated: "When do we ever run those who are bankrupting our country and literally stealing our children's future out of town? Grab a torch." [Glenn Beck, 1/6/10]

Beck suggests Obama is "trying to destroy the country" and is pushing America toward civil war. While discussing the ongoing controversy over Arizona's immigration law, Beck told his listeners that "we are being pushed" toward civil war and that Obama is "trying to destroy the country." [The Glenn Beck Program, 5/19/10]

Beck's advice to Liberty grads: "Shoot to kill." During his May 15 commencement speech at Liberty University, Beck told graduates that they "have a responsibility" to speak out, or "blood ... will be on our hands." His advice for graduates (as well as his daughter) included "shoot to kill."

Quoting Jefferson, Beck warns about "rivers of blood." On his Fox News show, Beck quoted a letter by Thomas Jefferson warning " 'if they lose freedom' -- he's speaking of us, future generations -- 'if they lose freedom, there will be rivers of blood.' " Beck continued in his own words, "Boy, I hope that's not true, but I can tell you there will be rivers of blood if we don't have values and principles." [Glenn Beck, 5/14/10]

Beck: "I fear a Reichstag moment, a -- God forbid -- another 9-11, something that will turn this machine on." During an interview with Newsmax.com in which he discussed opposition to Obama's Federal Communications Commission policies, Beck said: "I fear an event. I fear a Reichstag moment, a -- God forbid -- another 9-11, something that will turn this machine on, and power will be seized and voices will be silenced. God help us all.'' [Newsmax.com, 10/7/09]

Beck speaks for one-third of the nation: "[Y]ou will have to shoot me in the forehead before you take away my gun" and "before I acquiesce and be silent." Beck has warned "ACORN, GE, Obama, SEIU" that "you are awakening a sleeping giant, and I have nothing to do with it" and that "America is waking up. You know the American Revolution took place with 12 percent of the population? Twelve. Are you telling me there is not 30 percent of this population that you will have to shoot me in the forehead before I let somebody into my house to tell me how to raise my children; you will have to shoot me in the forehead before you take away my gun; you will have to shoot me in the forehead before I acquiesce and be silent." Beck further stated:

BECK: They cannot move on these things, because they are building a machine that will crush the entrepreneurial sprit and the freedom that our Founding Fathers designed. This machine, whatever it is they are building, will crush it. Do not let them build another piece.

So while I turn away, I want to make sure that I have at least 10 million eyes watching -- watching every single move they are making.

[...]

We know why they're doing what they're doing. You need to do what you need to do, and as long as that is peaceful, we will save our country. [The Glenn Beck Program, 7/30/09]

Beck: "This game is for keeps"; "[Y]ou can shoot me in the head ... but there will be 10 others that line up." Asking his audience to "pray for protection," Beck claimed that "the most powerful people on the planet on the left" were "not going to go away easy" because "[t]his game is for keeps. This is who controls the United States of America and its destiny." He went on to state, "Just pray for protection, please." [The Glenn Beck Program, 9/8/09]

Later in the same program, Beck said:

BECK: You can try to put the lid on this group of people, but you will never silence us. You will never -- you can shoot me in the head, you can shoot the next guy in the head, but there will be 10 others that line up. And it may not happen today, it may not happen next week, but freedom will be restored in this land. Period. And no matter what you want to call it, it is a totalitarian state that you're headed towards. [The Glenn Beck Program, 9/8/09]

Beck: "There is a coup going on. There is a stealing of America." Beck has claimed that "there is a revolution, and they think they can get away with it quietly," adding: "At this point, gang, I'm not sure, they may be able to because they are so far ahead of us. They know what they're dealing against; most of America does not yet. Most of America doesn't have a clue as to what's going on. There is a coup going on. There is a stealing of America, and the way it is done, it has been done through the -- the guise of an election, but they lied to us the entire time." He also said, "And they're gonna say, 'we did it democratically,' and they are going to grab power every way they can. And God help us in an emergency." [The Glenn Beck Program, 8/31/09]

Beck suggests that progressives support "armed insurrection." After President Obama signed health care reform legislation into law, Beck suggested that progressives support "armed insurrection" and asked, "Why would the president take up immigration right away, after he's just punched you in the face with health care?" [Glenn Beck, 3/23/10]

Beck suggests Pelosi and Obama support "pick[ing] up a gun" to advance "revolution." During the same edition of his Fox News show, Beck said that "violence is the wrong way to go," but asked his viewers: "You'd pick up a gun? Have you ever thought of that?" He then pointed to several pictures, including images of Obama and Pelosi, and stated: "These people have. Because possibly, maybe the question should be asked, maybe they're tired of evolution, and maybe they are waiting for revolution." Beck also said: "Haven't we just been spanked? Hasn't most of the country -- doesn't most of the country feel like they've been spanked over health care? You bet. I do, you do. A lot of people do." [Glenn Beck, 3/23/10]

Beck suggests Obama administration may kill him. Also on that same edition of his Fox News program, Beck said: "For those of you in the administration, who are coming after me ... remember, you've broken three [of the 10 Commandments], let's not make it four; thou shalt not kill." [Glenn Beck, 3/23/10]

Ranting that gov't under Nixon "wasn't as corrupt as it is now," Beck suggests Obama admin might kill "10 percent" of population. On his Fox News show, Beck warned that "anarchists, Marxists, communists, revolutionaries, Maoists" have to "eliminate 10 percent of the U.S. population" in order to "gain control." They couldn't achieve such a goal when Richard Nixon was president, Beck stated, but the government under Nixon "wasn't as corrupt as it is now." [Glenn Beck, 6/10/10]

Beck: "The army ... of the extreme left is gathering" and they are saying "cops are bad, kill the cops." On his radio show, Beck discussed riots in Oakland, stating: "The army, if you will, of the extreme left is gathering, and they are coming to the conclusion of cops are bad, kill the cops, they're the oppressors. It's all the 1960s, you know, pig stuff." [The Glenn Beck Program, 7/12/10]

Expand All Expand 1st Level Collapse All Add Comment
    • Author by peebs755 (July 29, 2010 2:10 pm ET)
      16 5
      Glen Beck = slime ball.
      Report Abuse
      • Author by the Grey Path (July 31, 2010 12:45 pm ET)
        2 1
        Conservative concept of personal responsibility ... Everyone, except me, is personally responsible for his actions.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by TruthSpotlight (July 31, 2010 6:20 pm ET)
             
          Everyone is responsible for their own actions.

          No one can be held responsible for other's actions. Save one instance: Parents responsible for their own minor children.

          At least in this country, for now. Who knows now that the corrupt government is forcing Socialism down our throats. Thank god we are still free to vote for now.
          Report Abuse
      • Author by Louise08902 (July 31, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
        5 2
        Glenn Beck = Paranoid schizophrenic.

        "I didn't realize about the Tides Foundation until I wrote it out on the blackboard"? That is the language of schizophrenics who engage in "spirit writing." Beck has lost touch with reality. Soon he is going to tell us that he has been chosen by God to usher us into the new millennium.

        Seriously, the man is sinking deeper and deeper into a crazy world of his imagination. The only difference between him and those guys yelling about the Goddess Ishtar and the Trilateral Commission is that Beck is well-dressed and on Fox.

        Beck might have started off just riffing and selling a line, but he was always a borderline personality. When he began to realize that people *believed* these stories, HE began to believe them as well. Now he's slipped into true psychosis.

        Every show is a display of manic fabulism. He must certainly have true weepiness and despair off camera, where he berates his family because his revelations aren't doing more to save the world from the certain peril that only he can see. But he's making millions, so no one is going to kill the golden goose.

        I'm not a psychiatrist, but I've lived with a schizophrenic. This pattern is scarily familiar, and I can't be the only person who sees it. Fox must be getting letters of warning from actual doctors, telling the Corporation that Beck is close to a full breakdown.

        Report Abuse
      • Author by TruthSpotlight (July 31, 2010 6:12 pm ET)
          1
        Every one of the references above are taken out of context. every single one!

        Amazing. This guy begs people NOT to become violent daily on his radio show and several times a week on TV.

        This article is another irresponsible misleading one that MMFA is so well known for.

        This is a simple issue to solve. Just watch or listen to him with an open mind and in context. I have heard Mr Beck time and again say "read/listen to the words of the people you are studying not the reports of the media." and "The truth will set you free." And he thoroughly researches something before presenting it. then says things like "don't just listen to me, check it out yourself."
        and responsibly provides his sources.

        Never have I ever heard him say anything racist, sexist or inciting on any of his programs. And I have been watching him for over a year. I started after hearing all the claims of how bad he is. He is not a bad man in any respect. He is falsly accussed over and over.

        I don't know who benefits from all the lies from MMFA. Nor do I understand all the hatred. Extremely un-American and Sad.
        Let us all be responsible citizens and expose all non-truths regardless of the source. And ALWAYS correct them with the truth.
        Report Abuse
    • Author by pilotx (July 29, 2010 2:21 pm ET)
      18 4
      Ailes needs to stop this immediately. People are getting hurt.
      Report Abuse
      • Author by IRONY 101 (July 29, 2010 2:52 pm ET)
        15 1
        Ailes is in the business of making money and advancing Republican interests. Ailes couldn't care less if someone gets hurt. Not his problem...

        That's why Roger Ailes is the head POS at FOX.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by ScienceBuff (July 29, 2010 4:20 pm ET)
          7 1
          Do you suppose that's what's on his desk nameplate?
          Report Abuse
        • Author by einreb (July 29, 2010 9:08 pm ET)
          3 1
          It will become Ailes' problem, big time, when he or his organization are sued for wrongful death.
          Report Abuse
          • Author by Floyd (July 30, 2010 9:35 am ET)
            4 23
            "Wrongful death"?!? Did you really say that? LOL When fox can be sued for wrongful death, you liberals better watch out. You people call for FAR more violence than anything fox or it's affiliates do!
            Report Abuse
            • Author by magnolialover (July 30, 2010 11:31 am ET)
              8  
              We liberals call for violence? Care to cite some examples of a so called liberal news station calling for violence? We have PLENTY of violent rhetoric from FoxNews.
              Report Abuse
              • Author by jerry185 (July 30, 2010 1:57 pm ET)
                   
                You prove it. Ed Schultz has incited violence numerous times.
                Report Abuse
            • Author by Johaely (July 30, 2010 11:35 am ET)
              6 1
              Please give me an example of the many times liberals have called for violence. And i mean liberals who people know about. They pale in comparison to the HUNDREDS of times Beck has passive-agressively (and sometimes ouright) called for violence.
              Report Abuse
              • Author by magnolialover (July 30, 2010 11:38 am ET)
                6  
                This is where Floyd comes in with his Weather Underground posting about how they called for violence. Bearing in mind of course, they didn't quite have the same audience size as say, FoxNews or Beck.
                Report Abuse
                • Author by Johaely (July 30, 2010 11:43 am ET)
                  3  
                  And weren't they a bigger threat to themselves than to other people?
                  Report Abuse
                • Author by So Fain (July 30, 2010 1:40 pm ET)
                  2 1
                  The Weather Underground was actually less than a dozen core people. Ooooooo... So scary!
                  Report Abuse
                  • Author by jerry185 (July 30, 2010 2:52 pm ET)
                       
                    Yea, Just about the same number that took down the Twin Towers.
                    Report Abuse
                • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 7:54 am ET)
                  2 5
                  mag-- they didn't quite have the same audience size as say, FoxNews or Beck.

                  Amen to THAT! There isn't a liberal in the nation that could be as popular as fox or Beck. They're too busy lip-locking various annus's trying to get free money because they're too lazy to do work of their own.
                  Report Abuse
                  • Author by barscotch9441 (July 31, 2010 1:10 pm ET)
                    5  
                    Floyd: A while back, you accused me of name-calling in a post which I can't access anymore. I didn't read your peurile reply soon enough to respond to it, not because I couldn't think of a response, but because I have things to do that preclude me from spending hours at a time on here arguing with self-made slaves such as yourself.

                    I'd tell you to ask yourself where the logic is in calling liberals unpopular when a liberal was elected president and there is a liberal majority in congress. However, I won't tell you to ask yourself that, because, as I mentioned above, your every post reveals that you are a self-made slave who will consider anything that challenges your apparent worldview.

                    So instead, I'll just invite you to wake up.
                    Report Abuse
                  • Author by NotDumdedDown (July 31, 2010 10:12 pm ET)
                       
                    sorry there's just more ignorant cave people in the world than we intelligent progressive liberals. MTV has higher ratings than Fox News too!

                    How much do you make a year Floyd? Betcha you could and would take a little free government money!!!!!
                    Report Abuse
              • Author by jerry185 (July 30, 2010 2:05 pm ET)
                   
                I would respond to your nonsense, but I think I'm being censored. None of my comments have been posted. MMFA can't handle the TRUTH.
                Report Abuse
              • Author by chervilant (July 31, 2010 11:20 am ET)
                   
                You're asking Floyd (who seems to be a prototypical Beckie automaton) for proof?

                crickets...
                Report Abuse
            • Author by eb (July 30, 2010 11:56 am ET)
              12  
              you liberals better watch out. You people call for FAR more violence than anything fox or it's affiliates do!

              Did Beck tell you that? Beck wants to remove progressivism from American life and the Fox news network is fine with that. What large media outlet has anyone suggesting that we remove Conservative politics from American life?

              Report Abuse
              • Author by jerry185 (July 30, 2010 2:07 pm ET)
                1  
                To those MMFAers who edit/censor comments. The word is out. You are biased and unAmerican.
                Report Abuse
              • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 8:20 am ET)
                2 8
                Hmmm, that could be because "progressivism" is dangerous to human life, while "Conservative politics" isn't. How many conservatives support the woman's "right to choose" any time any where she wants? How many conservatives support euthanasia? How many conservatives support legallizing murder? The only example you people can bring is the Iraq war where we fought against folks who openly cut peoples heads off and will hang gays for being gay and will not let women walk in front of a man. Even the sworn enemy of the US is a friend to the liberal.

                THAT could be why he promotes removing progressivism from the American way of life. You people cause and promote the deaths of too many already. You even complain when we fight against those who would kill you if you lived in their country. If progressivism is anything like liberalism, then it has a serious mental condition also.
                Report Abuse
                • Author by congero6189599 (July 31, 2010 12:29 pm ET)
                  5  
                  And with that rant we get a glimpse into the fact free ideologically driven mind of a right wing authoritarian kook.

                  Thanks for "representin'" Floyd.
                  Report Abuse
                • Author by barscotch9441 (July 31, 2010 1:11 pm ET)
                  1  
                  >>Hmmm, that could be because "progressivism" is dangerous to human life, while "Conservative politics" isn't.
                  No.
                  Report Abuse
                • Author by Louise08902 (July 31, 2010 1:42 pm ET)
                  5 1
                  Floyd, are you a time-wasting troll, or just a man who sincerely has no idea what Progressives are? Where did you get this mishmash of horrorstories that you've been told is the "Progressive" platform? It's a joke - like being told that Progressives are really all Jason. It's simply UNTRUE.

                  "How many conservatives support the woman's "right to choose" any time any where she wants? How many conservatives support euthanasia? How many conservatives support legallizing murder?"

                  1.) How many Progressives support "the woman's right to choose" any time any where she wants? NONE as far as I know. Even late-trimester abortions need - literally the rarest of the rare - are only available in the case of a life-threatening condition.
                  2.) How many Libertarians support euthanasia? Euthanasia is not a particularly Progressive demand - AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE FOR ALL is.
                  3.)Legalizing MURDER? What the hell are you talking about? If anything, it's *conservatives* who have "legalized murder" - through their constant demands for the death penalty. THAT'S "legalized murder" is most of the world's eyes.

                  Try looking at some information sources from folks other than your hero. Try European papers if you don't trust American ones. Please, get out of your information ghetto. You're harming yourself.
                  Report Abuse
                • Author by skatscan5624 (July 31, 2010 7:30 pm ET)
                  3  
                  Iraqis never killed one American that didn't invade Iraqi soil. Who called for the invasion of Iraqi soil? Conservatives. And all blood on Iraqi soil (Iraqi and American) is on Conservatives hands.
                  Report Abuse
                • Author by skatscan5624 (July 31, 2010 7:30 pm ET)
                  2  
                  Iraqis never killed one American that didn't invade Iraqi soil. Who called for the invasion of Iraqi soil? Conservatives. And all blood on Iraqi soil (Iraqi and American) is on Conservatives hands.
                  Report Abuse
                  • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 8:47 pm ET)
                    2 4
                    skat-- Who called for the invasion of Iraqi soil?

                    Wasn't the vote something to 0 or something to 1? Don't give me that "conservatives hands" bullcrap. Democrats had just as big a hand in this as anyone! Look at all the fear-mongering quotes by democrats between 98-01. Every liberal called for actions against Saddam. Bush had the balls to stop him from achieving his goal. Don't turn your hypocritical eye, now.
                    Report Abuse
                • Author by reanna-mator (July 31, 2010 11:11 pm ET)
                  1  
                  The death penalty.

                  Good evening.
                  Report Abuse
            • Author by So Fain (July 30, 2010 1:39 pm ET)
              11 1
              Ignore Floyd. He is an extreme right-wing Fox Fool and Glenn Beck Cult Member. No need to let this blatant falsehood ruffle any feathers.

              Floyd and his ilk are simply a very vocal and extremely small minority who are lining up for another schoolyard whopping in November if they don't make a stand against some of this extreme right-wing rhetoric.
              Report Abuse
              • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 8:36 am ET)
                2 7
                That's right, it's going to be a "whopping" success in November for conservatives.
                Report Abuse
            • Author by Unclepurple (July 30, 2010 3:03 pm ET)
                 
              Name one violent incident caused by anyone on the left, c'mon, aren't you looking at a huge list of crimes of violence committed by left-wing fanatics? Pick one and make your point or get a life in the real world! Jeeze, what's in the water you people drink?
              Report Abuse
            • Author by mptwain (July 31, 2010 1:22 am ET)
                 
              You're full of crap. What Fox News and idiots like Beck are doing is highly dangerous, promotes violence, and is tantamount to treason in this country, and it appears that you condone it. I would suggest you and your ilk be a little more careful about pushing this meme that Fox News endlessly hammers into their brainless viewers.
              Report Abuse
            • Author by doggeddem (July 31, 2010 12:20 pm ET)
              5  
              What progressive do you know of that shouts to a whole captive audience, "shoot to kill"? You are a moron.
              Report Abuse
      • Author by abrady (July 29, 2010 3:39 pm ET)
        7  
        But it increases RATINGS!
        Report Abuse
      • Author by Louise08902 (July 31, 2010 1:52 pm ET)
        1  
        Ailes probably hopes people get hurt. It will make insanely profitable content for his station. A real shooting war in the US? He's got the News Station of the Neo-Confederates already lined up. The Fox News logo blends seamlessly with the Stars and Bars.
        Report Abuse
    • Author by cst (July 29, 2010 2:22 pm ET)
      15  
      I can see this all being read directly into the court record...
      Report Abuse
    • Author by indigo1968 (July 29, 2010 2:37 pm ET)
      16 2
      Once again, Beck is playing a very dangerous game by blowing a dog whistle for nutballs then calling for non-violence to cover his anus regarding possible liability.

      Report Abuse
      • Author by jaguarundi (July 30, 2010 9:10 am ET)
        10 2
        If you think that this technique by the right is ineffective, you better think again. You have to travel halfway across the country to obtain a legal abortion by a physician (in a flak jacket). This is deliberate and highly effective. If you worked for a progressive think tank and Beck mentions your organization, you'd be a fool not to take extra precautions.

        Despite his public crocodile tears, Beck and his brown-shirts are perfectly fine with using this methodology to silence the opposition. Maybe Fox should have a new program called Target of the Week that they pick a progressive target, fabricate, distort and spin until someone steps up and does the killing to save the country. I believe there is a pool of followers that is large enough in this country to kill the top 10,000 progressives with plenty to spare. Just listen to Sharon Angle’s rhetoric as a prime example. Now that the war of ideas is becoming a war of flaming lead, Progressives are doomed judging on their track record of political violence in the last 20 years.

        Welcome to political discourse in Beck’s America.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by Floyd (July 30, 2010 9:44 am ET)
          6 16
          jag-- You have to travel halfway across the country to obtain a legal abortion by a physician (in a flak jacket).

          Typical liberal. You don't think about having protected sex, do you? You just want sex whenever you can with whoever you want. Consequences? You don't worry about them, it isn't YOUR body that is having it's brains scrambled by that flack jacket wearing quack. IS IT? Typical liberal ... take no personal responsibility for actions YOU caused. Ever think of PLANNING before DOING? Nah ... I guess not, you're a liberal.

          Funny how the liberal maniacs will whine about Beck's violent rhetoric, yet claim they need more violently-murdered un-born humans. Did you know current pregnancy tests can determine if you're pregnant within days of the event. I wonder how that can work if you liberals are correct and that fetus isn't a human yet. That it's just a collection of indistinguishable cells, yet a simple test can determine that there is another human being growing within someone... within just days. Well, at least you KNOW what your killing when you have it's brains scrambled with such COMPASSIONATE precision.
          Report Abuse
          • Author by Handsome Pete (July 30, 2010 10:18 am ET)
            11  
            How many children have you adopted, Floyd?

            Because if the answer is none, you're part of the problem.
            Report Abuse
            • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 8:39 am ET)
              2 7
              Good deflection from what I actually said. Typical liberal
              Report Abuse
              • Author by skatscan5624 (July 31, 2010 7:33 pm ET)
                6 1
                and of course as a typical conservative, You're not even aware of your own hypocrisy.
                Report Abuse
          • Author by magnolialover (July 30, 2010 11:37 am ET)
            10 1
            Typical liberal. You don't think about having protected sex, do you? You just want sex whenever you can with whoever you want. Consequences? You don't worry about them, it isn't YOUR body that is having it's brains scrambled by that flack jacket wearing quack. IS IT? Typical liberal ... take no personal responsibility for actions YOU caused. Ever think of PLANNING before DOING? Nah ... I guess not, you're a liberal.

            First, I think you drooled a little on the keyboard there when writing this. Second, it's not just liberals having un-protected sex out there, people of all strains have un-protected sex, and lots of times, those said same people are usually the loudest about being abstinence only (Bristol Palin anyone??). Abortions are a traumatic event, and I've known a few women who have had them, and not a one of them ever came to that decision lightly, or without a lot of thought.

            Funny how the liberal maniacs will whine about Beck's violent rhetoric, yet claim they need more violently-murdered un-born humans.

            A fetus is not an un-born human. Try and "deliver" that fetus, and it would die instantly outside of the woman's uterus. Nobody, repeat, nobody claims they want MORE abortions. I haven't heard that argument from anyone, ever.

            Did you know current pregnancy tests can determine if you're pregnant within days of the event. I wonder how that can work if you liberals are correct and that fetus isn't a human yet.

            This is actually easy, it's called a chemical reaction within the body when a pregnancy takes hold, or the slowly dividing cells attach themselves to the wall of the woman's uterus. Over the years, the processes and procedures for home prego tests have become more refined, it's called science genius. It's not hard to believe that since home pregnancy tests have been around for awhile, that they haven't, and won't be improved upon.
            Report Abuse
            • Author by eb (July 30, 2010 12:18 pm ET)
              11  
              Floyd has to call people who criticize Beck baby killers to somehow justify Beck's unethical behavior. He brings up the abortion issue to imply that we have no place to point out how extreme his conservative media heroes are.

              This same kind of thinking, Floyd, would also apply to conservatives who complain about all those deadly New Black Panthers. Since many conservatives supported the bombing and invasion of Iraq, without provocation, they also have blood of the innocents on their hands as well. Abortion, last time I checked, was legal. So far, the invasion of Iraq seems to be considered legal also.

              So, Floyd, by your logic, how dare conservatives criticize the the Weathermen or New Black Panthers after what they have advocated: the bombing of families with children. Of course you don't see these kinds of silly infantile arguments among the left. To get back to topic Floyd, Beck continually uses extreme rhetoric that has no basis on fact. Consequences? you don't worry about them. Its not you that is the target of such rhetoric and its side effects.

              Unless Floyd is an environmentalist who also advocates significant resources for poor families with children around the world, he could care less about the unborn.

              Report Abuse
              • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 8:51 am ET)
                2 5
                eb-- Beck continually uses extreme rhetoric that has no basis on fact.

                Do you mean statements like the one YOU just made: "conservatives ... have advocated: the bombing of families with children."? Is that the kind of "extreme rhetoric" you claim Beck makes which have NO basis on fact? People like you make claiming liberalism is a mental disorder easy.

                eb-- Its not you that is the target of such rhetoric and its side effects.

                Awwww, are you feeling scared of wittle Gwen Beck? Go hide behind your mommas skirt, she'll protect you. After all, liberals are scared to protect themselves, they've got to have the government do it all for them.
                Report Abuse
                • Author by eb (July 31, 2010 10:54 am ET)
                  4 1
                  Do you mean statements like the one YOU just made: "conservatives ... have advocated: the bombing of families with children."? Is that the kind of "extreme rhetoric"

                  Floyd, that one went way over your head... Read it again. My point was that you DON'T see this kind of rhetoric from progressives. No one is telling conservatives that because they are associated with violent policy, that their opinions on the subject are illegitimate. Floyd, it was you who made the point that because liberals are so called baby killers, they have no right to criticize Beck for potential violent side effects of his extreme rhetoric.

                  Is that the kind of "extreme rhetoric" you claim Beck makes which have NO basis on fact? People like you make claiming liberalism is a mental disorder easy.

                  Once again you are giving us an example of extreme rhetoric on the right. All I was pointing out was that conservatives frequently advocate legal violence, which is what you are calling abortion: A legal form of violence. Your reaction is to call liberalism a mental disorder. What an immature way to debate!

                  A conservative approach to a problem or issue is no more dysfunctional than a liberal one. What is pathological is to try to approach every problem with the same strategy. That is called going around in circles.

                  What I see that is mental, is how blinded so many conservatives are to such blatant and extreme propaganda. Glenn beck doesn't even try to make sense because, unfortunately, with much of his audience he doesn't need to. That, is not healthy.

                  Awwww, are you feeling scared of wittle Gwen Beck? Go hide behind your mommas skirt, she'll protect you. After all, liberals are scared to protect themselves, they've got to have the government do it all for them.

                  I listen to Glenn Beck on the radio all the time with a steady hand on the dial. He does not scare me a bit. He actually is pretty pathetic and intellectually thin. What I do find disturbing is that he says extreme things about people that are not true and seems to get away with it. I have no doubt that some people will take is rhetoric as a justification for extreme behavior.

                  Floyd, be honest, if someone was calling you a traitor and a danger to your country for hours everyday, and you saw that many people believed it, wouldn't you find it a bit disturbing?

                  Report Abuse
                  • Author by barscotch9441 (July 31, 2010 1:24 pm ET)
                    4  
                    Are you really asking Floyd to consider a point of view besides Beck's?
                    Report Abuse
              • Author by skatscan5624 (July 31, 2010 7:36 pm ET)
                4  
                More conservatives have had abortions than liberals, But because they're typical conservatives they lie about it. I wonder how many women Floyd "slept" with have had abortions?
                Report Abuse
          • Author by Johaely (July 30, 2010 11:40 am ET)
            11  
            So now you support safe-sex? Conservatives have mostly been the ones in the front lines arguing against condoms in high schools on the premise that its "encouraging" sex.
            Report Abuse
            • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 8:54 am ET)
              2 6
              When have I EVER not supported safe-sex? Hey, johaely, before you whine about things you have NO clue about, bring some FACTS to back up your lying rhetoric.
              In your case I would highly recommend you wear condoms. The last thing this country needs is another mentally challenged child.
              Report Abuse
              • Author by Johaely (July 31, 2010 2:47 pm ET)
                5  
                I see you support eugenics. You never had an argument other than "liberals should be removed from society". I fear that if you ever rose to power you would try to either be Mccarthy or Hitler.
                Report Abuse
          • Author by So Fain (July 30, 2010 1:43 pm ET)
            9 2
            Floyd has ZERO independent thought. He's just another Glenn Beck Parrot. Ignore him. His "opinion" has not place in intelligent discourse.
            Report Abuse
          • Author by raddave43 (July 30, 2010 2:44 pm ET)
            4  
            Yeah how dare those libs be out there having un-protected sex, especially that un-protective rape and incest sex.
            Report Abuse
            • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 9:06 am ET)
              2 6
              What?!? There were 1,300,000 pregancies from rape and incest last year?!? Wow, that is a more serious situation than I had realized.
              Or, perhaps the 1% of the time it ACTUALLY happened would be reason enough to allow the murder of over a million human beings per year (in the US alone). If Bush had caused the death of a million humans what would you consider him to be? And you wonder why conservatives think liberalism is a vial/evil thought process.
              Report Abuse
              • Author by doggeddem (July 31, 2010 12:25 pm ET)
                4 3
                Actually, shrub was a terrorist. There were several hundred thousand people killed in Iraq, for no legitimate reason. Shrub is a war criminal. He abrogated the Geneva Conventions, promoted torture and allowed 3000 Americans to be slaughtered in one day, while he read a children's book.
                Report Abuse
          • Author by jaguarundi (July 30, 2010 5:53 pm ET)
            9 1
            Floyd,

            Look at all the asinine assumptions you immediately make.
            Actually, I've always used condoms since becoming sexually active except for the periods we were trying to procreate. After having all the children we wanted, I had a vasectomy. How about you?

            My comment was directed to illustrate that abortions are legal but Bill-O and fringe types like Operation Rescue have successfully dredged up assassins to perform their dirty work to the point that a legal procedure is almost impossible to obtain. Intimidation by violence seems to be the exclusive domain of the lunatic right for the last few decades. I guess the connection is way beyond your minimal mental capacity.

            I guess the circuitry is not wired quite properly for true Beck aficionados like Floyd.

            And BTW I am actually an independent who is fiscally conservative (unlike the so called conservative parties), socially progressive and heavily armed. So I am not really a liberal maniac but I can recognize a psycho, rabid, barking mad tea-bagger like you.
            Report Abuse
          • Author by rumpleteasermom (July 31, 2010 12:08 am ET)
            4 1
            Floyd, you need to read this site. Please, click the link and learn more about the women you are vilifying.
            Report Abuse
          • Author by Louise08902 (July 31, 2010 2:07 pm ET)
            4 1
            Unintended pregnancies happen even with contraception and precuations used *perfectly*, Floyd. Did you know that?
            Here's a chart of failure rates of contraceptive methods used, over one year's time:
            http://www.contraceptivetechnology.org/table.html

            21% of condom users, 29% of spermicide users, 32% of sponge users, 16% of diaphragm users, and 8% of pill users! A woman can completely protected, totally responsible, and STILL get pregnant. Only the IUD and sterilization are close to infallible - and doctors won't implant an IUD in a woman who hasn't had a pregnancy. (Let's leave the inability to "take precautions" against rape and incest out of your equation, shall we?)


            Women KNOW that there is a real chance they may get pregnant, even with all the responsible precautions in the world It's almost funny how men like yourself don't seem to know that, however. But we know that about you judgmental fellows blaming us for imagined misdeeds - which is why we still believe that safe abortions in the first trimester must remain legal.

            So shut up with your inaccurate demonization of Liberals as just hedonistic devil-may-care childish non-planners. You must not know the truth - because you mind has been closed by those specious arguments you're making.

            Are you going to argue that women "should just keep their legs shut" if they don't want to get pregnant - which they won't do because "they are only thinking of their own selfish pleasures"?
            Report Abuse
          • Author by rte148 (July 31, 2010 6:53 pm ET)
               
            I see Beck's condition is contagious.
            Report Abuse
    • Author by lipreader (July 29, 2010 2:38 pm ET)
      19  
      Nothing is sadder than knowing that people worship this piece of crap.
      Report Abuse
      • Author by FNCRules (July 29, 2010 2:45 pm ET)
        5 43
        Yeah it is so sad when Americans who love this country actually love hearing the truth. Actually since I watch the show everyday I know when he is being misquoted. Apparently progressives don't get sarcasm. Wonder why so many people do watch his show? Is it because we like actually hearing the truth instead of all of lies that are said about him? And why are you guys so obsessed with him and Fox news? Please I beg of you to get a life.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by Old_Benjamin (July 29, 2010 3:53 pm ET)
          23  
          Actually since I watch the show everyday I know when he is being misquoted.


          This makes me sad. But anyway, off course you are the perfect person to the real quotes to correct the record here.


          Is it because we like actually hearing the truth instead of all of lies that are said about him?


          Is that like the truth that Van Jones was a convicted felon?
          Report Abuse
        • Author by CoolSlaw (July 29, 2010 3:57 pm ET)
          25 1
          What did you THINK was going to happen? What is this nonsense about "sarcasm"? I find it hard to believe that his entire show is nothing but sarcasm. How do you know when the truth is being spoken directly if everything is sarcasm? Sounds like you hadn't really thought out your defense of this irresponsible demagogue. He says stuff that reinforces the worst parts of your nature and validates the hateful beliefs that are easy to cling to in place of real spiritual self-examination, so you defend him.

          Glenn Beck presents these nefarious conspiracy theories as fact. Why else would he bring up a small group with little influence like the Tides foundation and link them to all these other organizations that Glenn Beck makes outrageous apocalyptic warnings about? You can tell us we aren't seeing and hearing what our eyes and ears are telling us, but I don't buy it. In fact you've been duped into hating all these organizations and individuals without having any idea what they really stand for.

          Beck's lies and fear-mongering have been cataloged here among many other places, he only has the influence he has because wealthy and powerful interests benefit from riling up the hateful and cowardly among us to keep us divided. You don't have to stay that way. You can take a deep breath, examine the facts, and leave behind the world of spin and sleaze disguised as punditry.

          No shame in changing for the better!
          Report Abuse
        • Author by eb (July 29, 2010 4:31 pm ET)
          22 1
          Apparently progressives don't get sarcasm.

          Beck wants to hunt down progressives for the rest of his life. Is he joking? Beck accuses non-conservatives of being dangerous and wanting to take away everyone's rights. Is he not serious? Beck has accused a hundred year old political tradition in this country, as well as many of the citizens who agree with it, of being dangerous. Do you believe that as well?

          I listen to his show too and I find it scary that so many people believe what he says in spite of the fact that you don't have to search very far to debunk much of what he says. It seems that every day this website documents something else from beck that is extreme or wrong. He is embarrassingly unprofessional and unethical.

          Is it because we like actually hearing the truth instead of all of lies that are said about him?

          How do you know what Beck is saying is the truth? How much of what he says is actually backed up with evidence? When I hear his analysis of liberals and progressives, it is obvious to me that he doesn't even know or understand progressive ideas or policies. It is embarrassing to hear him criticize something that goes way over his head in the first place.

          And why are you guys so obsessed with him and Fox news? Please I beg of you to get a life.

          Beck is on the air for hours everyday. He dishonestly attacks people everyday. He is part of a powerful media network that seems to want create hysteria among conservatives. When such powerful men act irresponsibly with their power, they need to be held accountable. MMFA merely documents what is said and debunks what is wrong. Do you have a problem with that?
          Report Abuse
          • Author by responsibility_matters (July 30, 2010 6:43 pm ET)
               
            I just wish this website would do what it claims to do. I rarely if ever read anything on this website that actually debunks or refutes what anyone says, it just quotes them, and says how terrible they are. Read this particular article for example. It's nothing but Glenn Beck quotes. And, from reading the quotes, he isn't saying anything alarming if you actually read and think about them. Nowhere in this article is there anything that refutes a fact stated by Glenn.

            And no, I don't watch and listen to him every day, I'm not a Glenn Beck nut, but he speaks about good honest values, and I respect that. What I don't respect is people telling me how they're going to do this and that for me and my neighbors, because "we shouldn't have to worry about it ourselves. We have more important things to do like enjoying life, not earning it." That kind of talk is disgusting to me, and I can't support anyone who remotely supports that. I've worked hard for what I have, I have worked to overcome the obstacles that have gotten in my way, and never once have I relied upon the government to help me through anything, nor do I ever intend to. Sure, I probably could have received some assistance, because the government said I was 'entitled' to it, and it may have been easier in the short run, but that's not the right way to go through life, and it's not helping anyone in the long run.
            Report Abuse
          • Author by skatscan5624 (July 31, 2010 7:39 pm ET)
            2  
            Let's see, It wasn't a liberal who was ready to go on a shooting spree because he didn't get Beck's "sarcasm" or Rush's "humor"
            Report Abuse
        • Author by bip84124092 (July 29, 2010 5:28 pm ET)
          9 1
          Why does it matter whether progressives "get" sarcasm or not? What matters is Beck's low information and low IQ audience
          who actually believe him. We all know the right wing way of handling things; smear, threaten and get out the guns. Does the party of responsibility ever take any? You need to get a brain and wake up. Better yet go read up on McCarthy.
          Report Abuse
        • Author by bintx (July 30, 2010 9:18 am ET)
          10 3
          LOL!! You watch this man's nonsense every day and you believe you are hearing the "truth"? You do realize that Beck has said on several occasions that anyone who takes what he says as gospel is an idiot, right? You really watch a man who thinks that you are an idiot? Why?

          I'd recommend that you do a bit of research on Beck's "truth." You'll find that Beck is one of the biggest liars and con men around. It's an act, FNCRules. A big, elaborate con which has NOTHING to do with conservatism. Beck's not a conservative and nothing he says has anything to do with either truth OR conservatism. It's a CON. You're being CONNED.

          Oh, and 1.5 to 2.0 million people is not a lot of people.
          Report Abuse
          • Author by So Fain (July 30, 2010 2:03 pm ET)
            7  
            1.5 to 2.0 million people is not a lot of people.

            Exactly... And FNC is driving away more and more people who have the ability to reason every day. The majority of the US isn't buying into the conspiracy theory lunacy.
            Report Abuse
          • Author by jerry185 (July 30, 2010 3:20 pm ET)
               
            That's a lot of "conning" for someone who has one of the highest ratings on the air and from a network rated number one of all cable news outlets.
            Get a more viable argument.
            MSNBC and Schultz and Olbermann and the Rach are the ones spreading the misinformation and hatemongering. I've communicated with Schultz directly and he is one of the most vile "human beings" I have ever had the displeasure to have a dialog with.
            Report Abuse
          • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 8:10 am ET)
            2 4
            bin-- You do realize that Beck has said on several occasions that anyone who takes what he says as gospel is an idiot, right? You really watch a man who thinks that you are an idiot?

            Mmfa seems to be watching every night. Every liberal at that site sure takes EVERY word he says as gospel (eb sure does;). Ummm, are you sure you want to stick with that statement? Remember, you are a liberal you can change your statement just by simply denying you ever said it. I would recomment you follow that advise, otherwise it makes every liberal at mmfa and every liberal who visits mmfa look like IDIOTS. I guess they already know that, but being the good sheeple they are, they are required to watch/listen to every right-wing radio/tv show out there. I think you liberals are more dedicated listeners of Beck (and Co.) than even the right-wingers are. Funny thing is, we KNOW that he is a comedian, YOU think he has power.

            bin-- Oh, and 1.5 to 2.0 million people is not a lot of people.

            It's a WHOLE lot more than the number of those who watch anything left-wing. What's their top audience draw? 2 or 3 thousand a week? Mmfa has about 50 liberal members, maybe another 10 right-wing members. Then probably 10 more who deny any affiliation. The thing about left-wing media is that the country doesn't need that kind of hate-ful garbage and it shows in the ratings, day-in/day-out. That must really get your goat, too. Don't worry though, one day your team will be as popular as ours. Perhaps if you liberals ever stopped your hateful remarks and statements it could.
            Report Abuse
            • Author by eb (July 31, 2010 11:12 am ET)
              3 1
              Mmfa seems to be watching every night. Every liberal at that site sure takes EVERY word he says as gospel (eb sure does;).

              EB wonders why someone who is so unethical and unprofessional gets so much time on the air with out serious rebuttal by his own network. Especially when that network claims to be fair... and balanced. EB wonders why Beck's unethical and unprofessional behavior isn't called out for what it is. Holding people accountable is not a bad thing. Anyone in the media ought to be subject to scrutiny. If we are such a tiny pinprick on the armor of the all mighty beck, then what is the big deal anyway.

              You seem to think that because even Beck admits that no one should take everything he says as Gospel, that such a statement excuses the rest of Becks irresponsible behavior.

              I think you liberals are more dedicated listeners of Beck (and Co.) than even the right-wingers are.

              Well, It is not take a lot of effort, intellectually or physically, to be well informed on the libertarian conservative view on things these days. It is fairly predictable what the reaction will be to any event. I think most non-conservatives understand are familiar to the Tea party - what they believe and what they want.

              In terms of progressives and liberals, it is obvious that most conservative spokesmen (like Beck) don't even know or understand what progressive views are or how progressive policies work. Beck obviously does not know anything about what he is criticizing as evil. The recent health care debate was also an example of this. Conservative media spokesmen obviously didn't know how public health plans worked.

              So Floyd, you have a point. I think many of us here pay attention and understand Beck's view on things. Beck and his followers are the ones that don't seem to be blind to other views.

              Funny thing is, we KNOW that he is a comedian, YOU think he has power.

              Tell me Floyd, what is so funny about his overall message that progressives are evil and dangerous? That makes as much sense as me saying that New Black Panthers are really just comedians when they talk about white people...

              Report Abuse
      • Author by Old_Benjamin (July 29, 2010 3:47 pm ET)
        16 1
        Nothing is sadder than knowing that people worship this piece of crap.


        Here comes one now.
        Report Abuse
    • Author by Your Mom (July 29, 2010 2:51 pm ET)
      11  
      Why does America like people like this guy. It makes me wonder what I have in common with my fellow Americans.
      Report Abuse
    • Author by Trinity (July 29, 2010 2:54 pm ET)
      8 27
      It's a shame that I see a lot of talk about how important context is when reporting the news when ALL of this is taken WAY out of context.

      America is at a crossroads. Don't believe MediaMatters.org, find the truth for yourselves. I am not saying follow Glenn Beck. I am saying that everyone should do what they learned when they were kids and they were at a crossing...

      STOP ... LOOK ... LISTEN

      And then make up YOUR mind ... resist others from making it up for you.
      Report Abuse
      • Author by Conchobhar (July 29, 2010 3:50 pm ET)
        17 1
        America is at a crossroads.
        Wow! Only 8,890,000 Google links. Congratulations on your original thinking.
        Report Abuse
      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (July 29, 2010 4:03 pm ET)
        7  
        Reported...
        Report Abuse
      • Author by worrierking (July 29, 2010 4:12 pm ET)
        18  
        I learned American History as a kid. I attended a church that was big on social justice. I also ate well and had a roof over my head because my father was in a union.

        So exactly what from my childhood shall I embrace and what should I reject?


        Report Abuse
        • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 8:23 am ET)
          1 4
          worrier-- So exactly what from my childhood shall I embrace and what should I reject?

          Embrace your good memories. Reject liberalism. One makes you smile, the other makes you frown.
          Report Abuse
          • Author by congero6189599 (July 31, 2010 12:18 pm ET)
            2  
            Ethan Hawke called ,he wants his lines back. Smiles and frowns? Training Day anyone?
            Report Abuse
      • Author by eb (July 29, 2010 4:44 pm ET)
        11 1
        It's a shame that I see a lot of talk about how important context is when reporting the news when ALL of this is taken WAY out of context

        Please, by all means show us how we are wrong about Beck. Show us how he is so misunderstood. I listen to his show. He thinks people like me are dangerous because I don't agree with him and have a different vision for our future. It is obvious he wants to live in a country where just about everyone thinks like him. Its really that childlike.

        His whole show exist to promote a political agenda. He only considers topics relevant to that agenda and he only considers evidence that confirms the message of that agenda. His show is really like a political infomercial. Explore this website, its not like the Glenn Beck show: criticism is backed up with evidence.

        Today he said global warming theory is a religion and bad things happen to those who disagree. He really has no proof of this. In fact, every time I hear him talk about global warming, it is obvious that he doesn't understand what the scientist say or does he care. He seems incapable of understanding what is wrong with the arguments and the politics that reject global warming as well.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 8:35 am ET)
          2 3
          eb-- He thinks people like me are dangerous because I don't agree with him and have a different vision for our future.

          Let me ask you one question; do you think conservatives (in general) are dangerous because they have a different vision for our future?


          eb-- His whole show exist to promote a political agenda.

          Duhh, any idiot can figure that out. That's what mmfa does too. The trick is, and I realize this is hard for liberals to do, but all you have to do is ... TURN OFF HIS SHOW! STOP listening to him. STOP watching him. Any moron can tell you that if you have a complete cross-section of AMERICA tuning into him EVERY day, then his show will get more ratings and become more intrusive into your daily lives.
          Conservatives figured that out years ago. And how many liberals have popular shows now? Perhaps I shouldn't be telling you people that secret to popularity, but it doesn't matter anyway, 'earlier described' people have no rememberance of anything historical.
          Report Abuse
          • Author by eb (July 31, 2010 11:22 am ET)
            3 1
            Let me ask you one question; do you think conservatives (in general) are dangerous because they have a different vision for our future?


            Not at all. Why can't conservatives rely on debating actual issues instead of smear campaigns to promote hysteria. Death panels...what a joke. Are you going to answer my question now?

            Any moron can tell you that if you have a complete cross-section of AMERICA tuning into him EVERY day, then his show will get more ratings and become more intrusive into your daily lives.

            And he has accused a large cross section of America of being evil and dangerous to the health of the nation. I don't care if he is intrusive except for the fact that he is being irresponsible and unethical.

            TURN OFF HIS SHOW! STOP listening to him.
            Well there goes that complete cross section of America!

            What on earth is wrong with holding beck accountable for what he says? What is wrong with calling someone's BS, especially when its directed at you and at your fellow citizens?
            Report Abuse
          • Author by cst (August 01, 2010 12:15 pm ET)
               
            " The trick is, and I realize this is hard for liberals to do, but all you have to do is ... TURN OFF HIS SHOW! STOP listening to him. STOP watching him...
            Conservatives figured that out years ago. And how many liberals have popular shows now?"
            Interesting... are you suggesting that the majority of Beck's viewers are actually LIBERALS who watch the show specifically BECAUSE they disagree with him? Because that kind of makes sense, in a "Man you Love to Hate" way.
            But I'm pretty sure Byron Williams WASN'T a Lib- just a rage-filled, suicidal fool who was looking for someone to take his pain out on.And while Beck didn't give him a gun, he DID give him a TARGET.
            Report Abuse
      • Author by eb (July 29, 2010 4:50 pm ET)
        15 1
        America is at a crossroads.

        Why?
        Because conservatives can't get their way all the time?
        Because Obama is a non-citizen, non-Christian, socialist gangster.
        Because years of conservative republican government have left this country a mess?
        Because proposals to fix the economy are not that different from what has been tried in the past.

        If we are at the crossroads, Beck would certainly miss the reason why. So much of his fear mongering has to do with marginal issues like new black panthers and the Tides foundation.

        Ask Beck to honestly explain what peak oil is? He can only dismiss it because it doesn't fit into his quaint little fantasy views of reality.
        Report Abuse
      • Author by bintx (July 29, 2010 5:43 pm ET)
        13 2
        You really think that most of us get our information from MediaMatters.org? Seriously?

        Get some help there, bucky.
        Report Abuse
      • Author by internet soldier (July 29, 2010 7:31 pm ET)
        12  
        It's a shame that I see a lot of talk about how important context is when reporting the news when ALL of this is taken WAY out of context.


        Oh deary, how many times do we have to beat evidence out of these wingnuts everytime?
        Report Abuse
      • Author by magnolialover (July 30, 2010 11:40 am ET)
        6 2
        How is MMFA taking Glenn out of context by posting his recorded rantings?

        Please, provide us with that.
        Report Abuse
      • Author by SMTDL (July 30, 2010 12:39 pm ET)
        4  
        That sounds like perfect advice for the Teaparty movement instead of being amongst the most misinformed groups within the electorate.Listening to nothing but Fox News,Limbaugh,Beck,Quinn,Boortz,Savage,Ingraham and reading tthe Drudge Report will do that.There are lots of fact checking organizations and they are consistent in showing Fox is the most inaccurate of all nedia.Now guess where Fox gets a lot of their material? (hint,Breitbart is/was one!)
        Report Abuse
        • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 9:19 am ET)
          1 2
          smt-- Listening to nothing but Fox News,Limbaugh,Beck,Quinn,Boortz,Savage,Ingraham and reading tthe Drudge Report will do that.

          Wow, quite an impressive list. When do you find time to post on mmfa if you're busy watching/listening to all of those shows?

          Typical liberal whining about popularity of right-wing shows while including each one in his daily-watch list. Yeah, sure, you just watch/listen to verify their content is the evilness which is right-wing media, right?
          Report Abuse
          • Author by eb (July 31, 2010 11:29 am ET)
            2  
            We know both sides of the argument. You obviously don't.
            Report Abuse
          • Author by SMTDL (July 31, 2010 1:09 pm ET)
            2 1
            When they poll the uninformed they ask them where they get their news.I don't make the claims ,that's what the neutral parties find out !!!
            The right wing media lies beyond what anybody reading a newspaper could discern.This week they claimed the white house supported release of the Lockerbie bomber.IT was a bold faced lie and not one retracted,corrected or apologized.They claimed the President hates/snubbed the Boy Scouts!BUNK!!! They claimed The Pres was the 1st one to go on daytime TV (while snubbing the Boy Scouts)..BUTTTTTTTTTTT GW Bush went on Dr Phil in 2004.They do this all the time and its documented like the Arlington cemetery smear..many other presidents had done the same,but only this one is attacked by rightwing media!They show nothing but intent to atack the President ,not report news.I bet you if the Pres announced that he was speaking to the Boy Scouts some would have callled it attemted"indoctrination" before they ever heard one word of the message just as they did when he wanted to give a simple back to school message to school children.
            Its really easy to dicument evets and find facts,just google and u get so much info that is not from a a partisan source.Try it sometime;lots of transcripts,audio/video documentation readily available.
            Report Abuse
      • Author by Handsome Pete (July 30, 2010 1:44 pm ET)
        4  
        Right. Make the accusation that this is ALL taken out of context, and then fail to provide any details on HOW it was taken out of context, what Beck was actually trying to say.

        Here's a hint: Glenn Beck is not Shirley Sherrod. He has a long history here, and the things he says cannot be excused. Unless you'd like to prove all of us wrong, but if you could have, you already would have.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 9:23 am ET)
          2 3
          han-- Here's a hint: Glenn Beck is not Shirley Sherrod.

          That's absolutely right. Conservatives don't watch/listen to racists then hold them high on a pedastal while proclaiming their innocence!
          Report Abuse
          • Author by congero6189599 (July 31, 2010 11:59 am ET)
            4 2
            Shirley Sherrod is not a racist. To still hold this view in light of everyone who has come out in support of her and her story from across the political spectrum shows how fringe and radical right loony land your ideas are and to make a statement like cons don't watch or listen to racist how ignorant of history you are. You are either a child or a very old man loosing his/her mind.
            Report Abuse
          • Author by skatscan5624 (July 31, 2010 7:47 pm ET)
            2 1
            So you don't hold O'Reilly, Rush, Palin, Reagan, Bush, Bush Jr, Beck, Hannity high on a pedestal?(not sic)

            A lot of conservatives do. All the above heros of conservatism are ALL racists. That is, If you consider Sherrod a racist. Or in your racist world are only blacks racist?
            Report Abuse
    • Author by armendale (July 29, 2010 2:55 pm ET)
      14 18
      Did this gunman have a signed and notarized permission slip from Glenn to go kill people he's telling us are out to destroy America by taking our guns and religion?

      No?

      Then Glenn maintains plausible deniability.


      Report Abuse
      • Author by indigo1968 (July 29, 2010 3:02 pm ET)
        19 2
        Unfortunately, you're right. Beck can play this game all day long, and never be held liable.

        He's a coward.
        Report Abuse
      • Author by MrVashMan (July 29, 2010 3:27 pm ET)
        3 24
        "Plau...ssib..bal de...neye....abilidity? They aren't sure of what that is. To people that hate Glenn Beck (but probably have never even watched him to get FULL context), they believe this is "solid" courtroom evidence. ...Only in Kangaroo Court, ladies and gentlemen.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by eb (July 29, 2010 4:56 pm ET)
          16 1
          To people that hate Glenn Beck (but probably have never even watched him to get FULL context), they believe this is "solid" courtroom evidence. ...Only in Kangaroo Court, ladies and gentlemen.

          According to Beck, this Tides organization is very dangerous, yes or no?

          According to Beck, this Tides organization is threatening your way of life, yes or no?

          According to Beck, progressives, going back 100 years are dangerous and threatening your way or life, yes or no?

          I listen to Beck and he makes it clear that this country is under attack and about to be destroyed. Why wouldn't someone want to, by any means necessary, defend their country? Read the article. Specifically what is wrong about it? Beck has singled out this organization as being a serious threat. Was he just kidding?
          Report Abuse
          • Author by bilbo_dies (July 29, 2010 5:59 pm ET)
            8 2
            According to Beck, progressives, going back 100 years are dangerous and threatening your way or life, yes or no?

            I thought conservatives were the ones always talking about taking America back to the "Good Ole Days"??
            Report Abuse
            • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (July 29, 2010 6:04 pm ET)
              12 1
              When men were men, women were chattels, and n!@@ers were three-fifths of a human being, bilbo...
              Report Abuse
          • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 9:34 am ET)
            2 2
            eb-- According to Beck, this Tides organization is very dangerous, yes or no?
            According to Beck, this Tides organization is threatening your way of life, yes or no?
            According to Beck, progressives, going back 100 years are dangerous and threatening your way or life, yes or no?

            Do you mean "comedian Beck" or "private citizen Beck"? Which one do you listen each day? All I've ever heard was "comedian Beck". Perhaps you take your comedy more seriously than others do.

            When Rodney Dangerfield said: "Take my wife ... please", I always thought that was a joke. I didn't realize he was actually pleading for people to kidnap his wife. But, in your deranged thought process (liberalism) you seem to think "comedian Beck" is calling for the overthrow of our government. Do ALL liberals think "conspiracy theory" concerning EVERY aspect of life they don't feel comfortable with? Or are you all just a bunch of whining losers?
            Report Abuse
            • Author by eb (July 31, 2010 11:26 am ET)
              2 1
              Do you mean "comedian Beck" or "private citizen Beck"? Which one do you listen each day? All I've ever heard was "comedian Beck". Perhaps you take your comedy more seriously than others do.

              This is supreme dishonesty! This is irresponsible. Beck is not presenting himself as Mr. Funny when he says a lot of these things. In fact he is morbidly serious and dramatic.

              It is amazing the mental gymnastics that are needed to defend this guy!
              Report Abuse
            • Author by chervilant (July 31, 2010 11:48 am ET)
                 
              Beck is not comedic. Beck is not an erudite person.

              Anyone who watches Beck for either entertainment or 'news' is pathetic. Not to mention pitiful... possibly (likely) puerile.

              If you are as I suspect (an older, white guy ensconced at your puter, surrounded by empty calories and sodas), Beckie is the least of your worries.
              Report Abuse
        • Author by bintx (July 29, 2010 5:47 pm ET)
          11 1
          I don't hate anybody, MrVashMan. I do hate what Glenn Beck's lies for profit are doing to this country.

          Apparently, you don't mind being taken for a fool by this dishonest, uneducated, self-admitted con-man who has called folks like you . . . the ones who believe his schlock . . . "idiots." How does it feel to have the object of your obsession call you an idiot?

          Oh, and Beck's laughing at you.
          Report Abuse
          • Author by responsibility_matters (July 30, 2010 6:57 pm ET)
               
            What is he doing to this country? Trying to inspire personal responsibility, faith in something, and limited government? What is wrong with any of that? What can the government do for me that I can't do myself, except for border control/national security? We the people can run businesses, ostracize those who are cheating people and help those in need through the goodness of our hearts. We the people can fail, learn from our mistakes and grow to be better citizens and neighbors. We the people can run this country without the need of 99% of what our government current does 'for' us.

            So, if that's the kind of country Glenn Beck is pushing for, and I believe it is, I'm for it. And I, along with all reasonable people who hold good morals and values, will not pick up a gun to accomplish it, unless I'm threatened with same. What do you all say to that?
            Report Abuse
          • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 9:41 am ET)
            2 4
            bintx-- Apparently, you don't mind being taken for a fool by this dishonest, uneducated, self-admitted con-man who has called folks like you . . . the ones who believe his schlock . . . "idiots." How does it feel to have the object of your obsession call you an idiot?

            Uhh, you don't get it do you? We understand completely what Beck is doing. It isn't US who is being taken for the fool by him. It is those who whine about him day and night. The ones who are obsessed with him are YOU. That is who he is calling an idiot. We don't believe any of his schlock, we realize he is a comedian. YOU are the ones hung on every word uttered from his mouth.
            So, when you complain about someone calling you an idiot but don't realize who you're talking about ... remember, if the shoe fits.
            Report Abuse
            • Author by Johaely (July 31, 2010 3:00 pm ET)
              2  
              So the fact that "it's all a joke" means that when somebody acts on his "jokes" he should hold no repsonsability. And if they are jokes, they certainly are irresponsible and too wild to be considered so. How is "progresives want to destroy America" be considered a joke? How is having somebody fired for some slight connection to a group that is boycotting you a joke? If he is trying to be funny he sucks at it.
              Report Abuse
            • Author by Louise08902 (July 31, 2010 5:35 pm ET)
              2 1
              You are arguing that his whole act is a comedy routine?

              Report Abuse
        • Author by internet soldier (July 29, 2010 8:11 pm ET)
          7  
          MrVashman, amendale is parodying you!

          Do you believe that unless Glenda gave the gunman a permission slip he's absolved of any responsibility?
          Report Abuse
      • Author by worrierking (July 29, 2010 4:13 pm ET)
        13  
        So you suggest that Beck should use the Charles Manson defense?

        It may work this time.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by Timmee (July 29, 2010 10:15 pm ET)
          9  
          Yeah, Charles Manson never killed anyone. He didn't give those murder's permission slips! I think someone should start a campaign to have Manson released....I think there was a gross miscarage of justice there.

          No permission slip...you must acquit.
          Report Abuse
          • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 9:43 am ET)
            1 3
            You've already got him taken off death row. How much more can you liberals do for the guy?
            Report Abuse
    • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (July 29, 2010 3:04 pm ET)
      17 3
      In this case, unlike O'Reilly and "Baby Killer" Tiller, there's a straight line between Beck's rantings and Williams, since Beck was the only person in the entire media to make any mention of Tides.I think incitement charges are perfectly legitimate in this case...
      Report Abuse
      • Author by didi (July 29, 2010 3:10 pm ET)
        19 2
        Great point.... how's an idiot like that going to know about the Tides Foundation without Beck.

        They tried rock stars for incitement to riot and they even went after Judas Priest for a suicide .... what's wrong with trying Beck?
        Report Abuse
        • Author by epkklk851 (July 29, 2010 3:35 pm ET)
          14  
          He'll claim he's a journalist and it was freedom of the press. He also has a corporation behind him. If Glennie goes down, it sets a precident that could take others down, too. And that costs money. Ol'Rup doesn't like to part with a penny he doesn't have to.
          Report Abuse
          • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (July 29, 2010 4:06 pm ET)
            10  
            He'll claim he's a journalist and it was freedom of the press.

            I'm sure, but the Holmes exception may indeed come into play in this case, simply because he was the only possible source of information about Tides. You know, that thing about "crying 'fire' in a crowded theatre...if Williams is truly up against it, his defense team may tru the electronic-age Twinkie defense, substituting Beck for Twinkies...
            Report Abuse
            • Author by MiniTru (July 29, 2010 4:15 pm ET)
              11  
              You know, that thing about "crying 'fire' in a crowded theatre...
              Unfortunately, the right-wing haters never shout "Fire." They shout, "Look! Smoke!" and then back away when people infer that they meant to point out a fire.
              Report Abuse
              • Author by eb (July 29, 2010 4:58 pm ET)
                5  
                Beck is more powerful than Twinkies
                Report Abuse
                • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (July 29, 2010 6:05 pm ET)
                  4  
                  Now you've made me hungry for Twinkies...wish I could actually eat 'em anymore...
                  Report Abuse
              • Author by armadillo (July 30, 2010 11:48 am ET)
                1  
                It's all about code words. Back to "plausible deniability."

                What separates me from conservatives is that I live my life never having to worry about plausible deniability.
                Report Abuse
      • Author by Floyd (July 31, 2010 9:45 am ET)
        1 4
        for-- since Beck was the only person in the entire media to make any mention of Tides.

        THAT is certainly going to be tough to prove, huh? Should we add you to the ever expanding list of whiners?
        Report Abuse
        • Author by GreenLantern (July 31, 2010 6:21 pm ET)
          2  
          Uh, already been verified........
          Nevermind, not worth the argument.....
          Report Abuse
    • Author by What Happened to Gannon (July 29, 2010 3:05 pm ET)
      14 2
      I don't think Beck has a conscience.
      Report Abuse
    • Author by armendale (July 29, 2010 3:16 pm ET)
      15 14
      Until Glenn actually physically hands a loaded gun to one his psycho followers and provides personal hands on training at a certified Glenn Beck Assault Rifle Training Center, and THEN gives his henchman a map and directions to the target, and THEN records the call to pull the trigger, UNTIL THEN, it's frankly silly to suggest that Glenn is somehow responsible for stoking violence.
      Report Abuse
      • Author by MrVashMan (July 29, 2010 3:30 pm ET)
        4 21
        If that's your reasoning, then anybody criticizing ANYONE must be a warmonger. Yea...that's what it is! I finally get it! You're all...MENTALLY RETARDED. That must be it.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by eb (July 29, 2010 5:01 pm ET)
          11  
          If that's your reasoning, then anybody criticizing ANYONE must be a warmonger.

          No warmongers lie and distort. They mischaractorize the so called enemy. Beck says progressives and social activist religious people are a dangerous threat to the existence of our nation. Is that true? Where is his proof? He can't even accurately and honestly describe progressivism and social activism?
          Report Abuse
          • Author by Andy Kreiss (July 29, 2010 6:17 pm ET)
            13  
            I'm getting a little confused ( in some variation of Poe's Law). I think Armendale is being sarcastic, but MrVashMan is twice as nutty, and I believe he may be serious.

            Report Abuse
            • Author by my4cents (July 30, 2010 4:44 pm ET)
              1 1
              I think so too. See his / her post below.
              "Hey! Just cuz ol' Glenny put a bowl of raw meat in front of a hungry dog don't mean he's responsible for that dawg eating the meat! C'mon! "
              Report Abuse
              • Author by MrVashMan (July 30, 2010 9:20 pm ET)
                   
                Analogy fail. That's going under the assumption that we are as simple as dogs. Also, meat IS good eatin' and it is socially acceptable to do so. People, on the other hand...MANY soldiers in the Middle East have a hard enough time, emotionally, with bringing themselves to kill...but in a relatively peaceful civilian environment here in America, it is completely abnormal to be able to just go and try to massacre an entire group of strangers. Why am I stating such an obvious fact? There is something very wrong with Byron, psychologically. I don't know about you, but I usually give people the benefit of the doubt: they are intelligent enough to be held responsible for their own actions. Stop insulting the power of the individual and free will. We are not dogs.
                Report Abuse
      • Author by internet soldier (July 29, 2010 7:49 pm ET)
        7 1
        Sorry about all the thumbs down, amendale. Tis the peril of trying to satirize wingnuts, it's really hard to say something obviously more ridiculous than the things they typically say themselves. As you can see, you got garbled enthuiastic agreement from one of them. I guess that's a sign you did well.
        Report Abuse
      • Author by mptwain (July 31, 2010 1:45 am ET)
           
        Yelling fire in a crowded movie house doesn't necessarily involve all that you suggest. Perhaps you should honestly think about the fallacies of your argument before making such an absurd notion. Glenn Beck doesn't have to do what you say in order to incite murderous violence in this country. All he has to do is what he does best; demonize an organization for pure, political gain and the bottom line. And he does it with the standard stupidity, ignorance and naivete that is part and parcel of his reputation. He makes money by tapping into the fears of certain Americans who feel powerless and need to be told what to think. This is why Fox loves him.

        Even rodeo clowns can be dangerous. And this moron is dangerous to the political discourse in this country.
        Report Abuse
    • Author by armendale (July 29, 2010 3:24 pm ET)
      18 3
      Hey! Just cuz ol' Glenny put a bowl of raw meat in front of a hungry dog don't mean he's responsible for that dawg eating the meat! C'mon!
      Report Abuse
    • Author by rikntx (July 29, 2010 3:34 pm ET)
      19  
      If this was a liberal ranting against the Heritage Foundation and Williams had been on his way to shoot up the Heritage Foundation, do you think that hate radio/blogosphere and FNC would make any noise about a connection? Naawww, surely they wouldn't.
      Report Abuse
      • Author by dave (July 29, 2010 4:17 pm ET)
        2 27
        I'm sure they would, and it would sound just as silly as this thread.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (July 29, 2010 5:48 pm ET)
          9  
          And you would be here screaming "SEE? SEE? IT"S THEM-THUR DURTY LIB'RULS WHO ARE REALLY TEH VIOLENT ONES!!!11!!!!"...
          Report Abuse
        • Author by bintx (July 29, 2010 5:49 pm ET)
          6 2
          No, they wouldn't. They haven't in the past, why should they start now? It doesn't fit into their agenda.
          Report Abuse
      • Author by CoolSlaw (July 29, 2010 4:17 pm ET)
        16 2
        The primary difference being that even though an organization like the Heritage foundation has many times the wealth and influence of something like the Tides foundation, left wing talkers don't go around slinging alarmist, fear-ridden tirades and outright lies about them create wild-eyed conspiracies.

        See we on the left KNOW there is a network of wealthy, powerful, and influential conservative thinkers, organizations, authors, tycoons, politicians, judicial activists, and pundits all working to bring about their ideology into the mainstream and "take over the country" with it. We also know that it's nothing new, nothing you can really do about it since we live in a country where you have the right to believe in and support crazy ideas.

        Let me just say this right now to all you right wingers out there: liberals, progressives and even democratic socialists exist. Most of us are just normal people who want the best for their country and have different ideas about how to achieve that. There is no nightmarish plot to take over America with time-traveling Kenyan Manchurian skynet-terminator socialist/facist/stalinist/athiest/humanist/sun-kist candidates created in a demonic cloning lab by George Soros and Noam Chomsky. Let's put away these childish and absurd fears that make you feel good to believe, and take the difficult first step of thinking for yourself and debating the issues on logic and merit. Quite honestly, you're embarrassing us a nation when you can't actually defend your ideology, only attack attack attack with ridiculous fear mongering.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by eb (July 29, 2010 5:03 pm ET)
          14  
          The truth about the left interferes with their program to create conservative hysteria.
          Report Abuse
    • Author by Illinoisian (July 29, 2010 4:17 pm ET)
      2 20
      Yes, I guess there are kooks on both sides of the aisle.

      How many comments are enough here on Media Matters before a comment can be posted?
      Report Abuse
      • Author by Johaely (July 29, 2010 5:04 pm ET)
        7  
        How many comments are enough here on Media Matters before a comment can be posted?


        Huh?
        Report Abuse
        • Author by cst (July 29, 2010 5:54 pm ET)
          8 1
          Illinoisian is referring to the "trial period" new posters go through, where the moderators at MMFA screen new commenter's messages rather than posting them directly. (The comments still get posted, but after a delay).
          I'm sure someone will argue it's "political censorship", but I think the actual commenters who DO get posted regularily prove that's not true. (More likely, they just want to filter out the profanity that runs amuck at some sites!)
          Report Abuse
          • Author by cst (July 29, 2010 5:56 pm ET)
            8  
            Oh, Illnoisian... I would genuinely like to see specific examples of "The Left's" equivalent of Glenn Beck.
            Report Abuse
            • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (July 29, 2010 6:09 pm ET)
              11 1
              I'll save him the trouble, cst...ahem!...

              "KIETH OBERMAN RACHEL HOMOSEXUAL MADOW ED SCHULTS ARE WORSE THAN OUR SAINT GLENN BECAUSE THEY ALL HATE AMURKA AN WANT TO MAKE US ALL COMMUNIT!!!!1!11!! WAKE UP AMURKA!!!1!11!1..."
              Report Abuse
              • Author by epkklk851 (July 29, 2010 9:31 pm ET)
                5  
                You forgot the Muslim and Gay parts of the plot! Didn't you get the latest memo from Moonbat Central?
                Report Abuse
                • Author by MiniTru (July 30, 2010 8:43 am ET)
                  2  
                  No, no, no! We're the moonbats, they're the wingnuts.
                  Report Abuse
                  • Author by epkklk851 (July 30, 2010 8:51 am ET)
                    3  
                    I know, I was being snarky, inventing a Liberal conspiracy: Moonbat Central that sends out memos about what we Moonbats are supposed to be doing to further the insidious Progressive plot.
                    Report Abuse
            • Author by Andy Kreiss (July 29, 2010 6:24 pm ET)
              7  
              I would genuinely like to see specific examples of "The Left's" equivalent of Glenn Beck.


              Those will probably be posted at about the same time as the examples from the other beckerheads whining about the "lies" about Beck, the stuff "taken out of context", and the explanations of how his fundamental crazy ideology is just sarcasm that liberals don't get.

              Don't hold your breath.

              If any youngsters are reading this thread, let the posts by Beck's groupies be a warning to you. This is your brain on Glenn Beck. Prolonged exposure may cause you to say crazy things and believe them just because you said them.
              Report Abuse
              • Author by mary59 (July 29, 2010 7:51 pm ET)
                5  
                Probably ritalin with an ambien chaser is required before anyone can swallow an hour of Beck.
                Report Abuse
      • Author by eb (July 29, 2010 5:09 pm ET)
        5  
        Yes, I guess there are kooks on both sides of the aisle.

        And Beck is one of them with a large media organization backing him and hours of air time. His backers seem to let him say whatever crazy nonsense he wants.
        Report Abuse
      • Author by didi (July 29, 2010 5:48 pm ET)
        3 1
        "How many comments are enough here on Media Matters before a comment can be posted?"

        I feel your pain.... it takes awhile. Be patient.
        Report Abuse
      • Author by bintx (July 29, 2010 5:50 pm ET)
        4  
        Since you're posting and have been for a few days, I'm assuming that you've posted enough, huh?

        Report Abuse
        • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (July 29, 2010 6:10 pm ET)
          5  
          In more ways than you mean, b...
          Report Abuse
          • Author by Andy Kreiss (July 29, 2010 9:24 pm ET)
            9 1
            I think you can empathize with Ill's frustration. When you're posting comments with the insight and urgency of;

            Yes, I guess there are kooks on both sides of the aisle.


            It's got to seem like years that the world is being deprived of that wisdom, while waiting for the moderators to ok the comment..

            Maybe there's a substance quota that needs to be met before the comments show up instantly. :)
            Report Abuse
            • Author by didi (July 31, 2010 5:33 pm ET)
                 
              "How many comments are enough here on Media Matters before a comment can be posted?"

              In that case I guess my comments were shallower than the Rio Grande in mid summer.

              Report Abuse
      • Author by ScienceBuff (July 29, 2010 6:23 pm ET)
        4  
        Illinoisian -
        My trial period seemed to last forever, but it did pass. I lowered my standard as to what was worth commenting on for a while just to get my approved comment count up. I prefer back-and-forth exchanges, but those were very difficult to keep up when many of my posts faced long delays.
        Report Abuse
      • Author by internet soldier (July 29, 2010 7:44 pm ET)
        2  
        How many comments are enough here on Media Matters before a comment can be posted?


        If you're asking when you can post without having to get it reviewed by mod, the answer is a lot. It took me about three weeks.
        Report Abuse
      • Author by ILikePizza (July 30, 2010 7:58 am ET)
        3  
        It took me about 15 comments before getting the okay. I'm a little aprehensive about admitting that in case the normal number is 5. Honestly, you never like to find out that you're under-achieving.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by bintx (July 30, 2010 9:23 am ET)
          1  
          It took me about 5 comments.
          Report Abuse
          • Author by didi (July 30, 2010 10:03 am ET)
            2  
            Seemed like forever to me.... must have been at least 25 comments. I had to wait a full weekend a couple of times for my comments to be posted.
            Report Abuse
            • Author by Oldphoto678 (July 30, 2010 9:02 pm ET)
                 
              Wow. I must have slipped through a crack. My first post was up whithin 10 seconds. Guess I drink the right kind of kool-aid.
              Report Abuse
            • Author by Oldphoto678 (July 30, 2010 9:03 pm ET)
                 
              Wow. I must have slipped through a crack. My first post was up whithin 10 seconds. Guess I drink the right kind of kool-aid.
              Report Abuse
    • Author by Porkeater (July 29, 2010 4:32 pm ET)
      7  
      Beck denies being "responsible"

      This pretty much sums up Beck's apparent theory on journalism: "we can say what we like 'cause we're guaranteed freedom of speech; we cannot be held accountable for it because people have freedom of thought."

      But watch him snuggle up with 9/12-ers last week, blithely taking responsibility for their good deeds...
      Report Abuse
    • Author by armendale (July 29, 2010 4:57 pm ET)
      13  
      "why wouldn't you want us talking about Tides?" Beck went on to ask, "Why would you hide it?"

      Yeah? What's so wrong with Glenn telling his empty-headed martyr militia that some group of lefties in San Francisco are coming to indoctrinate their children, take their guns, burn their bibles, redistribute their wealth, and emblazon the mark of the beast upon their foreheads?

      What could possibly be wrong with that?


      Report Abuse
    • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (July 29, 2010 5:23 pm ET)
      5  
      There are two distinct ideas I have about Beck: One, he is completely sincere about everything that tumbles out of his lying mouth, or Two, he is just clueless about how damaging he is to the public good. Wait, there's a third: he is a sock-puppet with Michel Steel inside. Maybe there's even a FOURTH: that he is the house comic like Steven Colbert, only Colbert KNOWS he is a comedian and makes NO attempt to hide it. If one thinks about it, Beck IS hilarious.
      Report Abuse
      • Author by bintx (July 29, 2010 5:52 pm ET)
        7 1
        No, Beck is NOT hilarious. Beck is dangerous because as you can see from this thread there are idiots out there who believe his ridiculously false "history," and the rest of his lies. Nothing funny about hatemongering and lying.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (July 29, 2010 6:11 pm ET)
          6  
          Especially when it ends up getting cops shot...
          Report Abuse
        • Author by jerry185 (July 30, 2010 3:12 pm ET)
             
          We are not amused by all the liberal lies and hatemongering, either, which is where most come from. How can you say history is "false?" Apparently you don't know anything about history, but then, you probably believe in the progressive's revisionist version.
          Report Abuse
        • Author by vgranucci2016 (July 31, 2010 7:55 pm ET)
             
          Glenn wants to be Nehemiah Scudder
          Report Abuse
      • Author by eb (July 29, 2010 7:08 pm ET)
        6  
        Maybe there's even a FOURTH: that he is the house comic like Steven Colbert, only Colbert KNOWS he is a comedian and makes NO attempt to hide it. If one thinks about it, Beck IS hilarious.

        Imagine if one day beck announced that he has been kidding all along, that everything he has been saying has been a joke and he spends the next two hours talking to Noam Chomsky and Amy Goodman...

        Report Abuse
        • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (July 29, 2010 7:53 pm ET)
          3  
          The popping sounds you would hear in 1.5 million homes would be the viewers' heads exploding...
          Report Abuse
      • Author by jerry185 (July 30, 2010 3:06 pm ET)
           
        Not as hilarious as you are
        Report Abuse
      • Author by Louise08902 (July 31, 2010 5:46 pm ET)
        1  
        As I argued upthread, Beck is like a paranoid schizophrenic at this point. He started out riffing on these ideas. But the reaction of the audience began to convince him that perhaps he was a Great Man on a Mission from God.

        He gets nuttier as the months pass, and no one intervenes. Fox just keeps lauding him, because he makes a ton of money.

        The question isn't whether he plots or believes this stuff, because he doesn't even know what he believes until it comes out of his mouth. The he realizes that what he just said, no matter how absurd, is revealed gospel. Yesterday it was Tides; today it's the Weather Underground. Tomorrow it will be the SNCC and Michael Lang with the other founders of Woodstock. He will also bring in Eugene Debs and Hugh S. Johnson, the first director of the National Recovery Administration. Who knows - perhaps Ming the Merciless will be included eventually.

        The man is losing his grip on reality, and that just the way Ailes likes him.
        Report Abuse
    • Author by mikelartist (July 29, 2010 5:23 pm ET)
      6  
      Beck would have had blood on his hands AND on his cheesy Christmas sweater too.
      Report Abuse
    • Author by Moderate Man (July 29, 2010 8:25 pm ET)
      2  
      If the shoe fits...
      Report Abuse
    • Author by whatIthink (July 30, 2010 8:43 am ET)
      3 2
      The people defending Beck are pretty much the same people who think that the book pictured below is just a nice, bedtime story.

      [
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/38/Turnerdiariescover.jpg]
      Report Abuse
      • Author by whatIthink (July 30, 2010 9:17 am ET)
        1  
        And speaking of books, I found this handy guide to how YOU TOO can become an author just as good as Glenn Beck!!!

        How to write a novel JUST LIKE GLENN BECK!!!!
        Report Abuse
        • Author by AlBundy (July 30, 2010 1:55 pm ET)
             
          glen beck University.
          Report Abuse
        • Author by boulderhippy (July 30, 2010 9:04 pm ET)
          1 1
          Knowing how to write isn't the real skill. Selling as many books as Beck does is the real skill.
          Report Abuse
          • Author by open_mind (July 30, 2010 10:04 pm ET)
            2 1
            There's no skill in that. Conservative groups line up to make bulk purchases to prop up book sales for their beloved numbskulls.
            Report Abuse
          • Author by Johaely (July 31, 2010 3:07 pm ET)
            1  
            You aren't even selling them yourself. How can conning people into buying your crappy book could be considered a skill.
            Report Abuse
      • Author by leatherhelmet (July 31, 2010 12:14 pm ET)
          1
        I guess know I will have to post a picture of Mein Kampf.
        Report Abuse
    • Author by Fuckyouliberal (July 30, 2010 10:26 am ET)
         
      He isn’t responsible the tides members or should I say liberal socialist pieces of fecal matter are!!!
      Report Abuse
    • Author by firedup49 (July 30, 2010 1:42 pm ET)
         
      this is nothing new John kerry's wife Theresa Heinz foundation give big $$ to the Tides. and is very close. also Wade Rathke (ACORN) was a board of director for years. sorry I knew this back in 2004. So what to worry about?? I do not get it...
      Report Abuse
    • Author by Unclepurple (July 30, 2010 2:58 pm ET)
         
      The next time someone defends this traitor, and accuses the Left of violence you need to cite some examples of said violence in particular, or shut up!
      Report Abuse
    • Author by bobsnerd (July 30, 2010 3:55 pm ET)
         
      It's simply ridiculous for anyone to blame Beck for the actions of loons simply because he was critical.
      Report Abuse
    • Author by Lizinbklyn (July 30, 2010 4:02 pm ET)
         
      Is it just me or does Beck contradict himself every other minute?

      Is he in favor of capitalism, against capitalism . .

      I can't figure out what side of the fence stooopid is on - -
      Report Abuse
    • Author by Lizinbklyn (July 30, 2010 4:03 pm ET)
         
      Is it just me or does Beck contradict himself every other minute?

      Is he in favor of capitalism, against capitalism . .

      I can't figure out what side of the fence stooopid is on - -
      Report Abuse
    • Author by little poncho (July 30, 2010 7:20 pm ET)
      3 2
      WERE IN THE HELL IS THE FBI & THE FCC, WAKE UP, BEFORE THIS CLOWN STARTS SOMETHING, AND PEOPLE GET HURT..... THIS CLOWN IS WORST THAN WORST MENTAL CASE!!!!!!!!!
      Report Abuse
    • Author by jerryz51 (July 31, 2010 3:44 am ET)
         
      OK, Beck has crossed the line. He is past shock jock territory now. He has entered Tom Metzger territory. Metzger of White Aryan Resistance used hate speech to incite his followers. Sure enough, some skinheads in Portland, OR beat to death an Ethiopian immigrant, Mulugeta Seraw. Morris Dees of the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ADL won a civil case against Metzger for $12.5 million. They bankrupted Metzger.

      It is time to sue Fox and Glenn Beck! Must we wait for blood to be shed?
      Report Abuse
    • Author by I'm actually a sane person (July 31, 2010 8:19 am ET)
         
      Unbalanced people hear these incendiary comments and take them seriously. If someone had gotten maimed or killed by this man, I sincerely hope Beck would have been blamed. Remember Jenny Jones? After her producers inflamed an already unbalanced guest, he murdered another guest. Jenny claimed zero responsibility. Haven't seen hide nor hair of Jenny Jones since, and good riddance.
      Report Abuse
    • Author by doggeddem (July 31, 2010 12:18 pm ET)
      1 1
      He is becoming increasingly dangerous. When someone does get shot because of this hateful pig, the rest of us better be prepared to demand that he be locked up and put in prison for incitement to riot. He is too cowardly to let anyone dare speak the truth to him. He is a waste of skin.
      Report Abuse
    • Author by Don Quixote (July 31, 2010 3:22 pm ET)
      1  
      Gleck connects unconnectable and nonexistent dots all the time. How odd that he's blind to the most obvious connection between his hate rhetoric attacking Tides and the actual attempted physical attack on Tides. He only sees invisible dots.
      Report Abuse
      • Author by TimJN (July 31, 2010 5:04 pm ET)
           
        C'mon, folks . . . Floid is very obviously a very frightened, half-bright Beck sychophant, yet you keep grabbing the bait here. Best to ignore him. This will make him think he's on to something, but so what? Only fools think Beck is in this little game for anything other than the money (about 20 million last year), and there's no point in trying to prove this . . . . The Floid is going to just keep givin' you the old school-yard "I know you are, but what am I?" routine. You might as well try teaching calculus to a cat, or reasoning with a lump of dogshit. Stop responding to the lad. Please. Thank you, and that is all, for now.
        Report Abuse

my.MediaMatters.org

Login  Sign Up

Push Back

Phone calls, emails and letters from the public do make a difference. Remember that to be effective you must be polite, and professional. Express your specific concerns regarding that particular news report or commentary, and indicate what you would like the media outlet to do differently in the future.