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Experts say anti-Muslim rhetoric undermines struggle against extremism

August 16, 2010 2:20 pm ET — 37 Comments

Foreign policy experts have warned that anti-Muslim rhetoric surrounding the planned Islamic cultural center and mosque in New York City threatens to undermine anti-terrorism efforts. Moreover, the Bush administration maintained that it is "very important that we show the world that America is a very tolerant and diverse society where people are welcome to practice their faith."

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Foreign policy experts, commentators note anti-Muslim rhetoric undermines anti-terrorism efforts

Haass: World watching "to see whether Muslims in America have rights, have opportunities that Muslims in lots of other countries don't." During the August 16 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, Richard Haass, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations and former adviser to Colin Powell, stated that "this has now become an international issue" and part of "the battle for hearts and minds in the Muslim world":

HAASS: The anti-American aspect of this -- this has now become an international issue. One of the great ironies is the people doing this mosque, this community center, want to develop an American version of Islam that competes around the world with the Wahhabi -- with the Saudi intolerant version of Islam. So this issue now is being watched around the world to prove or to see whether Muslims in America have rights, have opportunities that Muslims in lots of other countries don't.

So this has actually become an important aspect of our battle for the hearts and minds. It's no longer just a New York issue or a national issue. This has something really to do with the battle for hearts and minds in the Muslim world and whether there can be an American version of Islam that is more open and tolerant.

NSN policy analyst James Lamond: Attacking Ground Zero mosque is "counterproductive to our anti-terrorism efforts." In a July 30 article, James Lamond, a policy expert for the progressive National Security Network, condemned Newt Gingrich's statements about Islam and against the Islamic cultural center as "counterproductive to our anti-terrorism efforts. First at a strategic level, it plays into al Qaeda's framework that the West is at war with Islam." Lamond wrote:

But the frame that Gingrich is promoting is not only un-American and counter to our values, it is also counterproductive to our anti-terrorism efforts. First, at a strategic level, it plays into al Qaeda's framework that the West is at war with Islam. As Malcolm Nance, a former military intelligence officer and author of An End to al-Qaeda, recently told the American Prospect's Adam Serwer: "When you frame it as a fight against Islam and Islamic fundamentalism ... you're almost encouraging Osama bin Laden's line of thinking. He loves this idea that this is seen as a clash between Islam and the West; he wants that, he thrives on that." 

At another level, this fear mongering and overreaction serves to diminish America's resilience, an important component of America's counterterrorism strategy. The National Security Strategy says that resilience is, "the ability to adapt to changing conditions and prepare for, withstand, and rapidly recover from disruption." There are many facets of this approach, from a resilient infrastructure to a resilience economy. However an important part is also a resilient society that does not abandon its core values as soon as they're challenged. Yet a decade after 9/11 Gingrich is ready to give up on America's strength and resiliency. In addition, Stephen Flynn, president of the Center for National Policy, who has been the leader for years on promoting resilience, says that there is also a deterrent value to resilience saying that, "if an adversary believes that Americans are well-prepared to prevent, withstand, and rapidly recover from acts of terrorism, the appeal of engaging in such acts would be diminished." Basically, by his hysteria, Gingrich is feeding into al Qaeda's goal of promoting a hysterical reaction.

Goldberg: "Bin Laden wants a clash of civilizations; the opponents of the mosque project are giving him what he wants." From an August 3 post by The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg:

I know Feisal Abdul Rauf; I've spoken with him at a public discussion at the 96th street mosque in New York about interfaith cooperation. He represents what Bin Laden fears most: a Muslim who believes that it is possible to remain true to the values of Islam and, at the same time, to be a loyal citizen of a Western, non-Muslim country. Bin Laden wants a clash of civilizations; the opponents of the mosque project are giving him what he wants.

Gerson: Solidarity with non-radical Muslims is "a matter of national interest." In an August 16 Washington Post column, former Bush official Michael Gerson wrote that "[p]undits have every right to raise questions about the construction of an Islamic center near Ground Zero," but added that "inclusive rhetoric toward Islam" is "a matter of national interest." Gerson questioned how "our cause [is] served by treating the construction of a non-radical mosque in Lower Manhattan as the functional equivalent of defiling a grave":

An inclusive rhetoric toward Islam is sometimes dismissed as mere political correctness. Having spent some time crafting such rhetoric for a president, I can attest that it is actually a matter of national interest. It is appropriate -- in my view, required -- for a president to draw a clear line between "us" and "them" in the global conflict with Muslim militants. I wish Obama would do it with more vigor. But it matters greatly where that line is drawn. The militants hope, above all else, to provoke conflict between the West and Islam -- to graft their totalitarian political manias onto a broader movement of Muslim solidarity. America hopes to draw a line that isolates the politically violent and those who tolerate political violence -- creating solidarity with Muslim opponents and victims of radicalism.

How precisely is our cause served by treating the construction of a non-radical mosque in Lower Manhattan as the functional equivalent of defiling a grave? It assumes a civilizational conflict instead of defusing it. Symbolism is indeed important in the war against terrorism. But a mosque that rejects radicalism is not a symbol of the enemy's victory; it is a prerequisite for our own.

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There are many reasons to criticize Obama's late, vacillating response to the Manhattan mosque, and perhaps even to criticize this particular mosque. But those who want a president to assert that any mosque would defile the neighborhood near Ground Zero are asking him to undermine the war on terrorism. A war on Islam would make a war on terrorism impossible.

Amr and Singer: "The world constantly watches to see whether we actually live up to our ideals." In a 2008 paper, Hady Amr, foreign policy fellow at the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at Brookings and director of the Brookings Doha Center in Qatar, and Peter Singer, senior fellow and director of Brookings' 21st Century Defense Initiative, wrote that "a zero-tolerance stand against anti-Muslim statements and bias" is necessary "to be able to inspire the Muslim world to support our vision of 'liberty and justice for all' in the world":

There are six broad principles that should guide our strategy to improve U.S. security through winning the war of ideas and broadening and deepening relationships between U.S. citizens and institutions and their counterparts abroad. These overarching principles include:

Confronting who we are. Harkening back to the civil rights era and the Cold War, unless we take a zero-tolerance stand against anti-Muslim statements and bias both in government and among our political elite, we risk being cast as undertaking a "war on Islam" instead of a "war on terror." America must clearly confront its civil liberty concerns at home--and in our military campaigns--if we are to be able to inspire the Muslim world to support our vision of "liberty and justice for all" in the world.

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In an age of globalized technology and communication, the world is watching to see if we live up to our ideals of civil liberties and constitutional values, and is waiting to see if we stamp out anti-Muslim bigotry at home. A series of anti-Muslim statements made by various policymakers and close Administration supporters have undercut President Bush's post 9/11 message that Islam was not to blame for the attacks. Even though media in the Middle East give extensive coverage to these sorts of statements, the Administration has usually failed to condemn them or separate itself from the speakers. Bigotry in our midst is not just distasteful; in the age of globalization, it directly undermines our security. We live in an era where the world constantly watches to see whether we actually live up to our ideals. At a time when many in the world expect the worst of us, such positions only support the enemy's propaganda and recruiting efforts. Efforts on this front alone will determine if we have the moral authority to build multi-government coalitions and can inspire other countries to follow suit.

Former Bush official Armitage discussing mosque: Terrorists are winning "when we change our own ideals." On the August 9 edition of The Charlie Rose Show (accessed via Nexis), former Bush deputy secretary of state Richard Armitage responded to the question, "We should put [the mosque] there and be confident about it?" by saying: "My own view is don't let the terrorists win. When we change our own ideals and our own principles, they're winning, we're not." From The Charlie Rose Show:

ROSE: There is this also. What are the biggest challenges to America today?

ARMITAGE: The first and biggest challenge is to regain our confidence as a nation.

ROSE: Our confidence?

ARMITAGE: Our confidence.

ROSE: In ourselves?

ARMITAGE: Yes. I'm tired of running around being scared of my shadow, having time spent talking about 14th Amendments by pandering politicians who on the one hand say they want to be strict constructionists of the Constitution and on the other hand want to throw out amendments which have been pored over by the courts and I think validated over the years.

So I think getting our confidence back as a nation. I might say this also extends to the controversy over the mosque in the 9/11 site.

CHARLIE ROSE: We should put it there and be confident about it?

ARMITAGE: My own view is don't let the terrorists win. When we change our own ideals and our own principles, they're winning, we're not. So that's the most difficult thing. 

Former Bush adviser Mark McKinnon: Anti-Muslim rhetoric surrounding cultural center is "reinforcing Al Qaeda's message we are at war with Muslims." On the August 16 edition of Morning Joe, GOP strategist and former Bush adviser Mark McKinnon stated that the inflammatory rhetoric surrounding the the cultural center is "stunning, and it is so contrary to our country's principles." He later said that the anti-Muslim rhetoric is "reinforcing Al Qaeda's message we are at war with Muslims."

Bush administration touted religious freedom, respect for Muslims as argument against extremist enemies

Karen Hughes: After 9-11, it was "very important that we show the world that America is a very tolerant and diverse society where people are welcome to practice their faith." During a June 11, 2006, interview, Karen Hughes, the former undersecretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs during the Bush administration, stated that it is important to distinguish between Muslims "who are very peaceful citizens" and "violent extremists" and to "show the world that America is a very tolerant and diverse society where people are welcome to practice their faith":

HUGHES: I was one of the people who advocated that the president visit the mosque in the aftermath of [the] September 11[, 2001, terrorist attacks in New York and Washington] to send a signal that we understood that we have many Muslims in America who are very peaceful citizens, who are proud Americans, and that this was not about the faith of Islam, but this was about some people who were violent extremists, who were trying to use the cloak of religion to try to cover acts that were really acts of murder. So I was an advocate of that, and I think it's very important that we show the world that America is a very tolerant and diverse society where people are welcome to practice their faith.

Bush: "We respect" Islam; "It's practiced freely by millions of Americans." In a September 20, 2001, speech, President Bush stated "to Muslims throughout the world": "We respect your faith. It's practiced freely by many millions of Americans and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends." Bush similarly stated in a September 17, 2001, speech that "America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens" and "they need to be treated with respect."

Condoleezza Rice: "We have American Muslims who ... practice their faith freely, are a part of America. That's what America was founded on, religious freedom." During an October 19, 2003, interview on ABC's This Week (accessed via Nexis), former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice stated, "We have American Muslims who within our democratic system are not just tolerated but, of course, practice their faith freely, are a part of America. That's what America was founded on, religious freedom":

RICE: The president has been absolutely clear that this is not a war of religions. This is a group of people, a group of killers and murderers who take a great religion like Islam and pervert its teachings to kill and maim. Islam is a peaceful religion. The president is respectful of those who practice the Islamic faith. I will just remind everybody that Islam is, is the fastest growing faith in the United States. We have American Muslims who within our democratic system are not just tolerated but, of course, practice their faith freely, are a part of America. That's what America was founded on, religious freedom. America was founded on the belief that every person has the right to practice his religious beliefs and we have great respect for all the world's great religions and the president foremost among them. The president will very soon during Ramadan, for instance, welcome Muslim leaders to the White House for an Iftar, because he wants it to be very clear that this is no war of civilizations, this is no war of religions, this is about people who murder and maim and in fact pervert Islam which is one of the world's great religions and which after all shares with Christianity and Judaism an historic and spiritual past.

Bush: "We welcome Muslims in our country." In 2003, Lt. Gen. William G. "Jerry" Boykin was criticized for saying that Muslims worship "an idol." Responding to questions about those remarks, Bush said that "we welcome Muslims in our country. In America, we love the fact that -- that we're a society in which people can pray openly, or not pray at all, for that matter." He added: "We've got to fight off the imagery of a society which condemns entire swaths of people because of the acts of a few. It's just not the way we are":

Our war is not against the Muslim faith. As a matter of fact, as you mentioned, tonight I -- we're celebrating the Iftar dinner with Muslim leaders. And we welcome Muslims in our country. In America, we love the fact that -- that we're a society in which people can pray openly, or not pray at all, for that matter. And I made that point to the Muslim leaders.

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And so, those were the two main points that were brought up. There was a concern about General Boykin. It seemed like to me that we've got a challenge to make sure that people in countries like Indonesia understand the nature of the American people; you know, how we think. It's going to be an important part of good diplomacy in the long run. We've got to fight off the imagery of a society which condemns entire swaths of people because of the acts of a few. It's just not the way we are. And I was pleased to get the opportunity to make that case to the leaders that were there. It was a very cordial and good discussion. And I'm -- you know, I'm going to drop them a note thanking them for showing up and giving me a chance to talk about the America I know and love.

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    • Author by DellDolly (August 16, 2010 2:40 pm ET)
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      Religious tolerance is an important thing in our world today, just as tolerance for interracial marriage and sexual preference is too.

      And just because not all nations understand this, just because not all people around the world practice this - that doesn't mean we shouldn't be obligated as a nation to behave in these ways!

      The Islamic sect that wants to build the community center near Ground Zero is a peaceful one, not associated with the radical sects that sponsored the 9/11 attacks.

      It's not our fault that the right can't differentiate between

      The 19 violent, fundamentalist, extremist hate-filled terrorists who perpetrated 9/11 and

      The moderate and tolerant Sufi tradition of Islam followed by the groups promoting Cordoba House, and

      The rest of Islam.

      Jeff Goldberg at The Atlantic wrote "[Rauf] represents what Bin Laden fears most: a Muslim who believes that it is possible to remain true to the values of Islam and, at the same time, to be a loyal citizen of a Western, non-Muslim country. Bin Laden wants a clash of civilizations; the opponents of the mosque project are giving him what he wants."

      Steve Benen at The Washington Monthly wrote "For folks like Gingrich, Cheney, Giuliani, et al, Feisal Abdul Rauf is exactly the kind of American ally who should be embraced. Instead, the right is going to genuinely ridiculous lengths to isolate, offend, and ostracize him, signaling their belief that all Muslim Americans should be treated as second-class citizens. If Osama bin Laden were to write a script for what he'd like to see happen here, it'd be identical to the one Gingrich & Co. are following. This isn't intended to question their patriotism, but rather, their sanity."
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      • Author by southerngal (August 16, 2010 2:50 pm ET)
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        Good points.

        Even George Bush understood it. It really shows how far right the right has gone. This whole mosque brouhaha illustrates it very well. The Gingrich/Cheney wing is way more extreme than Bush was, apparently. Their opposition to this mosque does indeed play right into Bin Laden's playbook, and oh how these same people use to lob that at the left whenever they could. Now, all in the name of political opportunism and sleazy Obama bashing, they use fear.

        I sincerely hope they are thrown to the bottom of the dustbin this November and the common sense and decent conservatives surface, otherwise their extremism will only get worse.
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    • Author by Martha (August 16, 2010 3:24 pm ET)
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      On CNN State of the Union this Sunday, republican Rep. King perpetrated the LIE that "parts of the planes" from 9/11 were found in this building, therefore the BUILDING is "hallowed ground".

      This is utter RUBBISH!

      To which Rep.Jerry Nader reminded him, that there's a mosque in the Pentagon .

      The Pentagon was attacked on 9/11, so by those standards the Pentagon is "hallowed ground", but King and the rest of the GOBP never complain about that or the other mosques in the area.

      Interfaith Leaders Stand with Cordoba House, Denounce Hateful Rhetoric

      As Catholic, evangelical, mainline Protestant, Jewish and Muslim leaders and scholars committed to religious freedom and inter-religious cooperation, we are deeply troubled by the xenophobia and religious bigotry that has characterized some of the opposition to a proposed Islamic center and mosque near where the World Trade Center towers once stood.

      Fox News has aired a steady stream of irresponsible commentary and biased coverage that reduces what should be a civil debate into starkly combative terms.

      Mr. Gingrich, Ms. Palin and other prominent voices privileged to have the ear of the media would make a more lasting contribution to our nation if they stopped issuing inflammatory statements.

      Fear-mongering and hateful rhetoric only undermine treasured values at the heart of diverse faith traditions and our nation's highest ideals.

      Please sign the "Faithful America" petition against anti-Muslim propaganda and for religious freedom and tolerance

      https://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2518/action/supporting_muslims
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      • Author by Porkeater (August 16, 2010 4:32 pm ET)
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        Signed, sealed and delivered. Thanks.
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      • Author by DellDolly (August 16, 2010 5:04 pm ET)
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        The landing gear from one of the planes DID land on this building.

        Those parts don't REMAIN in this building, but they DID hit this building. It used to be a Burlington Coat Factory store, and it closed that day, and didn't reopen.

        But the building is NOT "hallowed ground" because it got hit by debris from a plane. The PENTAGON is not "hallowed ground" - they rebuilt that part of the building, and there are NOW offices right where the plane hit!

        And I don't think there's a literal "mosque" in the Pentagon. There is a prayer group that meets IN the Pentagon.
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      • Author by eb (August 16, 2010 7:47 pm ET)
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        To which Rep.Jerry Nader reminded him, that there's a mosque in the Pentagon .

        YOU JUST DESTROYED THE WHOLE DEBATE!!! THANK YOU!

        Sorry about the all caps but seriously, what can you say?. The pentagon is a ground 0 and why would a mosque be there? Because American Muslims are fighting and dying in our Military.

        Conservatives: You make us look like petty, intolerant idiots. This is not about liberal political correctness, its about our ideals. Its about what makes us a great country.
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    • Author by didi (August 16, 2010 4:35 pm ET)
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      Religion is nothing but a for profit business. They produce no product and prey on the fears of their customers.

      Christians and Muslims both are being manipulated into this hatred by their charlatan preachers/pastors/imams.

      We will never be able to escape their games till we realize that the celebration of one's faith can be a one on one relationship with their god. No intermediaries needed.

      Eliminate the middle man... escape the trap of organized religion.
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      • Author by southerngal (August 16, 2010 4:59 pm ET)
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        Apparently you haven't been in a church in awhile. Of course you are entitle to your misinformed opinion, but to broadly and unfairly swipe at all religions and all churches as nothing but profit motivated hate-filled arenas that trap and manipulate is just ignorant and disrespectful.

        Many people find solace, friendship, comfort and purpose in attending church and being active in many of the good works done in their communities by their church, or any house of worship. They value and are thankful for the "intermediaries" that you condescendingly say are not needed.

        Just as many others who don't appreciate the "bible thumpers" preaching to them, you are just as intrusive in your unjustified condemnation of religion.

        You may not need it, but to show tolerance and respect for those who choose to believe differently than you would be advised.
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        • Author by didi (August 16, 2010 5:16 pm ET)
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          "Many people find solace, friendship, comfort and purpose in attending church"

          That was the fears of their customers I was referring to. You can find each and every one of those outside of church. Yet some people look to join a church to be with people they can relate to. They close themselves off to other people with different ideas and customs and learn real fast how to be critical of others.

          "You may not need it, but to show tolerance and respect for those who choose to believe differently than you would be advised."

          I don't pretend to be all knowing or all good and I respect their religion. But I don't appreciate when the so called leaders of their rituals teach intolerance for others. It's the root of 9/11 and it's the roots of the furor being acted out now by those who would want to celebrate their own religion in their own mosque or community center.
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          • Author by southerngal (August 16, 2010 5:40 pm ET)
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            As I said, you seem to full of generalizations. "Close themselves off" and learn to be critical - huh? Many people go to church regularly because their religion is important in their life, it has nothing to do with fear, and everything to do with faith. Their church may have missionaries that help people in countries that need it, badly. Some people go to church because it helps them think outside themselves and their needs, they work within their communities in outreach to help people in all sorts of dire circumstances. There are many reasons why people exercise their religious freedom, for you to say it's out of fear so they can judge and be critical of others is just ridiculous.

            And if you are showing respect with that post full of disrespect, well, I missed it.
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            • Author by didi (August 16, 2010 5:47 pm ET)
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              So you deny the destabilizing effects of religion?
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              • Author by southerngal (August 16, 2010 5:52 pm ET)
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                I deny all your ridiculous and unfounded generalizations on why people of faith attend their choice of worship. Don't now expand this to the abuses and perversions that some do it the name of religion.
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                • Author by didi (August 16, 2010 5:54 pm ET)
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                  "Don't now expand this to the abuses and perversions that some do it the name of religion."

                  Expand? EXPAND?

                  That was the point of my original post.

                  Go away!
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                  • Author by southerngal (August 16, 2010 5:57 pm ET)
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                    Baloney, read your original post. It is filled with so much intolerant disrespect it rivals any religious zealot I have ever heard.

                    Well done.
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                    • Author by didi (August 16, 2010 5:59 pm ET)
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                      Nice try.... I think there's a course in reading comprehension in your local public school. But I'll guess you're against that too.
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                      • Author by southerngal (August 16, 2010 6:06 pm ET)
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                        Well, anyone that says this "I respect their religion";

                        After saying this; "Religion is nothing but a for profit business. They produce no product and prey on the fears of their customers.
                        Christians and Muslims both are being manipulated into this hatred by their charlatan preachers/pastors/imams"
                        - has more than a reading comprehension problem.
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                        • Author by didi (August 16, 2010 6:10 pm ET)
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                          Religion has nothing to do with ORGANIZED religion other than the branding rights.

                          How you practice your religion should always be an individual thing.

                          Once you get involved with intermediaries you are getting a filtered interpretation of your religion. In many cases the filtering includes prejudices.

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                          • Author by southerngal (August 16, 2010 6:16 pm ET)
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                            It is an individual thing. Just because you believe and follow the tenets of a religion, or attend worship in a church or a mosque or a synagogue regularly, doesn't mean you abandon your individuality or your thinking skills or your brain. They aren't just sheep, they are people whose faith is strong and attending services in an environment that provides them peace and inspiration is not so their prejudices can be validated.

                            Why you have such a hard time admitting that is beyond me. Or is the over generalization important to you for some reason? I have no idea.
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                            • Author by didi (August 16, 2010 6:28 pm ET)
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                              Many are just sheep.... there to be manipulated into thinking and doing things in the name of god that are against the basic tenents of their religion.

                              Look at the 9/11 hijackers.... real believers.... how many virgins do they get?

                              Now look at the evangelicals that took control of the southern baptist church teaching hatred for homosexuals and now Muslims.
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                              • Author by southerngal (August 16, 2010 6:48 pm ET)
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                                Oh, duh, silly me. You were talking about religious nutty extremists, and here I thought you were using them to swipe a huge broad brush of disrespect and intolerance towards Mary and John Doe who enjoy their local church and the fellowship and inspiration they derive from going there every week.
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                                • Author by didi (August 16, 2010 7:15 pm ET)
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                                  Hate to tell you this but the nutty extremists took over the evangelical bunch.

                                  What they do is move into the leadership roles in the various churches and forcefully move them into religious activism. And in some cases murder.

                                  So now the face of the churches are those same wackos. It's not just the evangelicals that are getting hijacked.... it's hit the mormon church and the roman catholic church also.

                                  And the great divide continues.
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                                  • Author by boulderhippy (August 16, 2010 11:28 pm ET)
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                                    One name of someone in the past 40 years that killed because the organized church told him to. You can't do it except for muslims.
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                                    • Author by didi (August 16, 2010 11:57 pm ET)
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                                      * March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Dr. Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.

                                      * August 21, 1993 Dr. George Patterson, was shot and killed in Mobile, Alabama, but it is uncertain whether his death was the direct result of his profession or rather a robbery.[6][7]

                                      * July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003.
                                      * December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi, who prior to his arrest was distributing pamphlets from Human Life International,[8] was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
                                      * January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
                                      * October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Dr. Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.
                                      * May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed as he served as an usher at his church in Wichita, Kansas.[9]
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                                      • Author by didi (August 16, 2010 11:58 pm ET)
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                                        This just in.... some religious leaders are seeing the light:

                                        From the statement:

                                        As Catholic, evangelical, mainline Protestant, Jewish and Muslim leaders and scholars committed to religious freedom and inter-religious cooperation, we are deeply troubled by the xenophobia and religious bigotry that has characterized some of the opposition to a proposed Islamic center and mosque near where the World Trade Center towers once stood.

                                        Newt Gingrich, the former Speaker of the House, is the most recent prominent opponent to cast this debate in a way that demonizes all Muslims and exploits fear to divide Americans. "It is a sign of their contempt for Americans and their confidence in our historic ignorance that they would deliberately insult us this way," Gingrich said in a statement. Sarah Palin called plans for the center a "provocation." Fox News has aired a steady stream of irresponsible commentary and biased coverage that reduces what should be a civil debate into starkly combative terms.

                                        ...Mr. Gingrich, Ms. Palin and other prominent voices privileged to have the ear of the media would make a more lasting contribution to our nation if they stopped issuing inflammatory statements and instead helped inspire a civil dialogue between Christians, Jews and Muslims committed to a future guided by the principles of compassion, justice and peace. Fear-mongering and hateful rhetoric only undermine treasured values at the heart of diverse faith traditions and our nation's highest ideals.
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                                        • Author by dontbestupid (August 17, 2010 10:30 am ET)
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                                          didi, I have been saying this for years. I also believe churches should be paying taxes. Especially the ones on tv.
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                                        • Author by doughpro1604643 (August 18, 2010 10:22 am ET)
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                                          Interesting list of people (and the organizations that they are linked with) who signed that statement.
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                                      • Author by doughpro1604643 (August 18, 2010 10:25 am ET)
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                                        Did the church tell them to kill, or was it a result of the way their (obviously) abnormal mind processed what they were "hearing"?
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                                    • Author by congero6189599 (August 17, 2010 11:12 am ET)
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                                      So now that didi has supplied you with the information will you change your position boulder? I doubt it.
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                                      • Author by southerngal (August 17, 2010 11:36 am ET)
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                                        Fine, if you want to define an entire religion, and those who follow it respectfully, based on the actions of some extremists who pervert it to their own violent end, so be it.

                                        I would assume you would do the same for Christianity, Islam and the rest. Which means you should vehemently oppose this mosque in NYC? I mean, if you're consistent.
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                              • Author by achrispage6992 (August 17, 2010 7:24 am ET)
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                                "Many are just sheep.... there to be manipulated into thinking and doing things in the name of god that are against the basic tenents of their religion."

                                Hasty Generalizations seem to be your choice of argumentation. Look, we get that you don't like organized religion. Your belief that churches are hangouts for hypocrites led by charlatans is clear. Perhaps you had some kind of tramautic experience at or in a church, but nevertheless, your continued attempt to lower the standard of American churches by pointing to isolated and radical elements of various religious entities is ridiculous.
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        • Author by wookie (August 16, 2010 9:19 pm ET)
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          There are generalizations sure but some of that needs to be said. With any other belief, say ghosts, the claim itself would be the focus not the organization wanting donations. Or wanting to tell you what politics to have. That happens because religion is purely faith based. There is no evidence to focus on so it is solely about perpetuating itself. The faithful aren't prevented from doing their thing. They could really afford to show more respect for nonbelievers as well.
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          • Author by southerngal (August 17, 2010 11:49 am ET)
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            Well, disrespect breeds more disrespect. When you are told that you are trapped and fearful and prejudiced and are just having hate preached at you, you tend to treat those who spout offensive gibberish like this at you with an equal level of disrespect.
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            • Author by doughpro1604643 (August 18, 2010 10:14 am ET)
                 
              Wow, which church did you ever attend? Hopefully it is no longer around.
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      • Author by DellDolly (August 16, 2010 5:06 pm ET)
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        Yeah, that's ridiculous. If you can't understand why it'd be valuable to have a community to share one's religious beliefs with, then you shouldn't do it, but to deny that there IS value for many people in that association, that communion, is ignorant.
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    • Author by shaggles (August 16, 2010 6:08 pm ET)
         
      You hardly need to be an expert to know that.
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    • Author by doughpro1604643 (August 18, 2010 10:12 am ET)
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      Obama hosted an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan at the White House, yet decides against holding something similar on the National Day of Prayer, which is open to all religions, and has been observed for over 50 years.
      Is that religious tolerance, or preferential treatment?
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      • Author by didi (August 18, 2010 3:03 pm ET)
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        Blah blah blah.... my religion is number one... blah blah blah.

        This is pathetic.... the crusades were fought centuries ago.

        Who cares whether your feelings are hurt.
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