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Behind Obama Muslim myth stands the right wing

August 19, 2010 7:47 pm ET — 44 Comments

Two recently released polls show that an increasing number of Americans believe the falsehood that President Obama is a Muslim. According to the Pew Research Center, 60 percent of people who believe this false claim cite the media as the source of that information -- and, indeed, the right-wing media have incessantly promoted this lie.

Pew, Time polls find that an increasing number of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim

Pew: Nearly "one-in-five Americans" now say Obama is a Muslim. On August 18, the Pew Research Center released a survey on Obama and religion, conducted in early August. The poll found that "nearly one-in-five Americans (18%) now say Obama is a Muslim, up from 11% in March 2009," while "[o]nly about one-third of adults (34%) say Obama is a Christian, down sharply from 48% in 2009." The survey also found that "43% say they do not know what Obama's religion is." Pew went on to state: "The view that Obama is a Muslim is more widespread among his political opponents than among his backers." It also added:

When asked how they learned about Obama's religion in an open-ended question, 60% of those who say Obama is a Muslim cite the media. Among specific media sources, television (at 16%) is mentioned most frequently. About one-in-ten (11%) of those who say Obama is a Muslim say they learned of this through Obama's own words and behavior.

Time: 24 percent of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim. In a poll also released on August 18, Time magazine, in conjunction with polling firm ABT/SRBI, found that 24 percent of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim. Time stated that "just 47% of respondents believe Obama is a Christian; 24% declined to respond to the question or said they were unsure, and 5% believe he is neither Christian nor Muslim."

Right wing media relentlessly drive Obama-Muslim falsehood

Right-wing media have relentlessly pushed the myth that Obama is a Muslim. In the past two years, the conservative media have continued to lie about Obama's personal history, dishonestly distorting his faith to claim that he is in fact a Muslim and not a Christian. Those untruths have run the gamut -- from outright claiming that Obama is a Muslim to alleging that he "is a Christian that Christians don't recognize"; from using his family and upbringing in Indonesia to portray him as an "Islamist" to claiming he has an agenda that shows he has a "preference of Islam over Christianity"; and from distorting comments Obama or his administration has made to picking out symbols associated with his administration to perpetuate the lie about his faith. Conservatives have even used the Pew and Time polls today to further rehash these falsehoods.

Right-wing rhetoric: Obama is a Muslim

Limbaugh: "There might be reasons why some people think" Obama is a Muslim. On his August 19 radio show, Rush Limbaugh, who lately has taken to calling Obama "Imam Obama", said: "Has Obama ever called Muslims 'bitter clingers'? Well, he's called Christians 'bitter clingers.' He did that in San Francisco. I'm just throwing these things out here, folks, because people are questioning his Christianity. Some think he's a Muslim. I'm just saying there might be reasons why some people think this." Limbaugh also said during the same show, "If it was OK, and even laudatory, to call Bill Clinton America's first black president, why can't we call Imam Obama America's first Muslim president?"

Right-wing runs with dubious claim that Obama admitted "I am a Muslim." Conservatives pushed an unsubstantiated claim that Obama admitted to Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit that he is a Muslim, with G. Gordon Liddy stating that it comes under the heading "suspicions confirmed." Right-wing commentator Pamela Geller went even further and put the words "I am a Muslim" in quotation marks and attributed the statement to Obama in the title of a blog post hyping the rumor.

Wash. Times' Kuhner: Obama is a "cultural Muslim." In a July 8 Washington Times op-ed, Jeffrey Kuhner wrote that Obama is "betraying the Jews" and that he "is a cultural Muslim whose sympathies lie with the Islamic world in its life-death struggle against Israel."

Geller: Obama's Pearl comments were "spoken like an" "antisemitic Muslim terrorist." In a May 18 post, Geller wrote of Obama's comments on the signing of the Daniel Pearl Freedom of the Press Act: "The Daniel Pearl beheading 'captured the world's imagination' -- spoken like an ..........antisemitic Muslim terrorist. Pearl was beheaded (GRAPHIC VIDEO) because of Islamic anti-semitism and violent jihadi doctrine. Freedom of the press had nothing to do with it. And this coming from a plant who is attempting to restrict these freedoms ..............press and speech." In fact, Obama was honoring Pearl in his comments.

Quinn on Obama: "I think he's a Muslim." Seizing on reports that Obama had gone golfing on Christmas Day 2009, Jim Quinn said on his radio show: "I know that it's very impolitic to bring this up but I think he's a Muslim. Sorry, I do." Quinn, who has also repeatedly suggested Obama is Muslim, said of Obama on his February 26 radio show, "You've got a nexus here of angry black nationalism" and "whose entire family is Muslim."

Geller calls Obama "the Muslim president." Geller's blog contains 267 posts tagged, "Muslim in the White House?" In a June 2, 2009, post, Geller called Obama "The Muslim president." Calling it a "critical issue," Geller wrote in January 2008 that "Obama went to a madrassa in Jakarta," that "he practiced Islam," and that "if Obama makes it to the big house, Israel is screwed. Finished." On May 30, 2009, Geller wrote that with his Cairo speech, Obama "proved everything I said to be true." In fact, CNN debunked the "madrassa" falsehood in January of 2007, and as Newsweek stated, "Barack Obama has never been Muslim and never practiced Islam."

Fox News' Special Report asks of Obama: "Islam or Isn't He?" During a June 4, 2009, segment, Fox News' Special Report aired a quote by Obama national security official Denis McDonough, in which he talked about how Obama "experienced Islam on three continents" and grew up in Indonesia with a Muslim father, and asked: "Islam or Isn't He?"

Savage: Obama is "an unknown stealth candidate" who "in fact, was a Muslim." Michael Savage falsely asserted that Obama was a Muslim and attended a madrassa, saying: "Look who we inherited in this country, from Dwight D. Eisenhower to Barack Hussein Obama, in one generation. A war hero to -- a war hero who commanded the Allied operations against Nazi Germany was running for the presidency then. Now we have an unknown stealth candidate who went to a madrassas in Indonesia and, in fact, was a Muslim."

KSFO's Rodgers: Obama "admits in one of his own books" that he would "stand with the Muslims" against "the Western world." Repeating a false allegation from a chain email, Lee Rodgers falsely claimed Obama "admits in one of his own books" that "in case of a confrontation between the Western world and the Islamic world, he will stand with the Muslims." In fact, what Obama wrote in his 2006 book, The Audacity of Hope, according to FactCheck.org, "is that he would stand with American immigrants from Pakistan or Arab countries should they be faced with something like the forced detention of Japanese-American families in World War II."

Conservative radio hosts seize on Obama comment to revive false rumors about his faith. During the 2008 campaign, numerous conservative talk-radio hosts selectively highlighted Obama's assertion, which he immediately clarified, that "John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith" to revive rumors that he is a Muslim, not a Christian. For example, Chris Baker claimed that Obama's comment was "obviously a Freudian slip" and stated, "He confessed. It's over." Savage described Obama as a "Muslim stealth candidate" and stated: "I have nothing against moderate Muslims. ... The question is, why is he covering up his Muslim faith?"

Right-wing rhetoric: Obama's Christian faith is not Christianity

Limbaugh: "Obama says he's a Christian but where's the evidence?" On his August 19 radio show, Limbaugh used Pew's findings to repeat the claim that NASA administrator Charles Bolden's recent comments on Muslim outreach show Obama "turned NASA over to a Muslim outreach program." Limbaugh went on to say: "The guy holds an Easter egg roll -- the White House website promoting the Easter egg roll does not mention Jesus or Christ. It talks about environmentalism. Obama says he's a Christian but where's the evidence?" Limbaugh also brought up Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church to cast doubt on Obama's Christian faith, saying, "Reverend Wright's church is a weird brand of Christianity. The Reverend Wright's church -- black theology is what comes out of that pulpit, which is not exactly mainstream Christianity."

Beck on Obama: "I think he is a Christian that Christians don't recognize." On his August 19 radio show, Glenn Beck addressed the findings of the Time poll, saying, "Here's the problem with this. I find that a disturbing poll because I don't think -- I think that is the easy answer for people who are like, 'Well, it doesn't make sense. Nothing makes sense.' And I think the easy thing is to say, 'I think he's a Muslim.' I don't -- I really don't. I think he is a Christian that Christians don't recognize." Beck went on to claim that because "social justice activists" in the media have so distorted Christianity, "no one is explaining why Barack Obama doesn't feel right." Beck also used the fact that Obama attended Wright's church to further confuse the issue, saying of Obama: "When he did get Jesus, he got it from Jeremiah Wright. This is liberation theology. ... So the story of Jesus takes on a whole different light."

Beck: Obama's comments show "contempt for the Scriptures." On his August 19 show, Beck and his co-hosts attacked Obama for comments he made about the Bible that they said show "a lack of understanding" and that are "not Christianity." Beck went on to claim that Obama's comments are "such a distortion" and "shows contempt for the Scriptures." Beck added that Obama's Christianity "is again liberation theology," and his comments were "his understanding of distorted Christianity."

Tennent: "You can't vote for [Obama] and be a Christian. ... You're going to be held accountable for this vote." On the radio show she co-hosts with Jim Quinn, Rose Tennent read an email from a listener who criticized her statement that "I don't think you can be a Christian and vote for Barack Obama," replying: "I've said it on this show, too. I really don't believe you can be. You can't vote for him and be a Christian at the same time. You can't." Tennent went on to say: "I'm not judging; I'm laying out the facts. ... You know, you're going to be held accountable for this vote. If you voted for Barack Obama and you call yourself a person of faith, you will be held accountable for that vote. I believe that with all of my heart."

Quinn: Obama "says he's a Christian but I've never seen him in a Christian church." After saying that he believed Obama is a Muslim, Quinn stated: "What am I to think when he says to George Stephanopoulos, 'Nobody has criticized my Muslim faith,' and Stephanopoulos says, 'You mean, Christian.' And he, 'Oh, yeah, yeah, Christian faith.' What am I to make of a guy who says he's a Christian but I've never seen him in a Christian church?" Quinn continued: "And don't give me the Reverend Wright, because the Reverend Wright's church isn't Christian. The Reverend Wright's church is black liberation theology and that is a conveyor belt for Marxism. And by the way, wasn't the Reverend Wright a follower of Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam?" He concluded: "I mean, if I got questions here, does that make me a bad guy?"

Right-wing rhetoric: Obama is an "Islamist" and prefers Islam over Christianity

McCarthy's book a collection of recycled Obama "Islamist" smears. In his book The Grand Jihad, Andrew McCarthy invokes numerous smears, myths, and falsehoods to portray Obama as an "Islamist." Among the claims included were that Obama is not a Muslim, but has "Islamist sympathies," which "run deep"; that Obama "seem[s] ... disposed" to "advance the cause of Islam in the world"; that he does not like "America as it is"; and that his agenda "jibes perfectly with the Islamist scheme to destroy America from within."

WorldNetDaily" Obama has a "fealty toward Islam." In a WorldNetDaily.com column, contributor Pieder Beeli purported to do "an inferential or forensic analysis" of Obama by analyzing "what is implied rather than what is explicitly stated." Using a litany of lies and attacks, including the claim that "I have not heard Obama affirm the central Christian tenet, 'The love of God was revealed to us on the cross of Jesus Christ.' " Beeli came to the conclusion that Obama has a "preference of Islam over Christianity," adding that "his fealty toward Islam and multiculturalism far exceed his fealty toward Christianity.

Geller: Obama "wants jihad to win. That's what he is doing." In an April 1 blog post titled, "President Jihad: Obama Encouraged Violent Palestinian Muslim protests against Israel," Geller claimed Obama "is agitating Muslims against Jews" and stated, "The President of the United States is advancing jihad against the oath of office that he took." Geller also stated in an April 11 post, "President Sarkozy called [Obama] 'a madman,' 'a lunatic.' Perhaps, I don't know -- but one thing is for sure: Hussein is a muhammadan. He's not insane ...........he wants jihad to win. That's what he is doing. Of course, to the western mind, the rational mind, the logical mind, the American mind, that is insane." Responding to reports that Guantánamo Bay detainees may be housed at the Thomson Correctional Center in Illinois, Geller wrote: "Obama is bringing his jihad to Illinois."

Gaffney in Wash. Times: "[I]t increasingly appears" Obama "will be embracing the agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood." In a Washington Times column, Frank Gaffney criticized Obama's "Respect Islam" campaign, writing: "President Obama on Friday reiterated for the umpteenth time his determination to develop a 'new relationship' with the Muslim world. On this occasion, the audience were the leaders of Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and the Philippines. Unfortunately, it increasingly appears that, in so doing, he will be embracing the agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood -- an organization dedicated to promoting the theo-political-legal program authoritative Islam calls Shariah and that has the self-described mission of 'destroying Western civilization from within.' "

Hinderaker on Obama: "We're not sure who he is, exactly, but he certainly isn't one of us." In an August 19 post on his Powerline blog, John Hinderaker criticized the Associated Press for its article on the Pew poll, which stated that "Americans increasingly are convinced -- incorrectly -- that President Barack Obama is a Muslim, and a growing number are thoroughly confused about his religion." Hinderaker suggested the AP was editorializing in pointing out Obama is not a Muslim, writing: "I love that 'incorrectly.' The AP has evolved into an opinion machine, so it's rare and a little startling to see it stand up so boldly for a 'fact.' He's not a Muslim, dammit!" He added: "We're not sure who he is, exactly, but he certainly isn't one of us. Given the currents that swirl through world events these days, being a Muslim is one interpretation of Obama's exoticism."

Right-wing rhetoric: Symbols associated with Obama admin look "Islamic"

Conservatives see Islamic symbols in Obama administration logos. Fox News and the conservative media seized on the official logo of the Nuclear Security Summit to claim its image "looks like" an Islamic crescent. However, as Comedy Central's Jon Stewart noted, "the inspiration for the logo is actually the Rutherford-Bohr Model of the atom that we all learned about in high school."

NY Post's Goodwin: "[N]ot a coincidence" nuclear summit logo features "[t]he kind of crescent moon you see on the flags of Muslim countries." In his April 14 New York Post column, Michael Goodwin wrote that the logo "reminded" him of "a crescent moon," the "kind of crescent moon you see on the flags of Muslim countries." He added: "Indeed, the crescent, often with a single or multiple stars, is the main symbol of Islam. So now there is something like it at an official presidential event, prominently displayed in photographs being beamed around the world." While Goodwin claimed that he was "not suggesting President Obama is a secret Muslim," he wrote: "But I am certain the crescent-like design of the logo is not a coincidence, especially at an event where Iran's nuclear ambition and al Qaeda's search for a bomb are prime topics."

Fox & Friends sees "Muslim image" in summit logo. On the April 14 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, co-hosts Brian Kilmeade and Gretchen Carlson discussed Goodwin's column, with Kilmeade saying: "When I first saw this logo, I wasn't really thinking this, but upon further review, perhaps I should have been. And that is, if you look at the Nuclear Security Summit logo, what does that have in common with all those other flags there representing Muslim nations?" Showing images of flags, Carlson replied: "That's the same thing that you see on the flags of Turkey, Algeria, Tunisia, and Pakistan, and what do they all have in common? They're all Muslim nations." Carlson then stated that Goodwin's claim is that Obama "deliberately put this as a logo to try and continue his outreach to Muslim nations in a positive way," adding that at "the same time, he points out in his article that we're not going to say terms like 'Jihad' anymore or 'Islamic extremists' anymore. So you be the judge." During the segment, Fox featured text that read: "Curious Crescent Logo: Summit Symbol Similar to Muslim Image" and "Islamic Image? Summit Design Looks Like Crescent Moon."

Jim Hoft: "That's weird?... Obama's nuclear summit logo is an Islamic crest." In an April 14 post on his Gateway Pundit blog titled, "That's Weird?... Obama's Nuclear Summit Logo Is an Islamic Crest," Jim Hoft repeatedly asserted that it's "weird" that "Obama's nuclear summit logo is an Islamic crest." Other right-wing blogs, including Evil Conservative and Right Side News, also claimed that "the Nuclear Security Summit logo looks an awful lot like an Islamic crescent."

Error Theory: "Nuclear Summit logo uses an Islamic-shaped crescent." In an April 13 post on the Error Theory blog, also featured at Free Republic, Alec Rawls claimed that it "is hard to believe that the State Department" could use "an Islamic-shaped crescent" for the Nuclear Security Summit "by accident," asserting: "Maybe our State Department really is this ignorant, but more likely, as in the case of Fort Hood mass murderer Nidal Hasan, nobody was willing to make an issue of anything connected to Islam, no matter how disturbing, for fear of committing. career suicide. After all, Obama has commanded all of his underlings to be as oblivious to Islam as possible."

Gaffney: "Can This Possibly Be True? New Obama Missile Defense Logo Includes A Crescent." In February, after the Missile Defense Agency (MDA) redesigned its logo, media conservatives compared the new design to the Islamic crescent. In a February 24 BigGovernment post, Frank Gaffney called the "symbolic action" "nefarious," writing that "the new MDA shield appears ominously to reflect a morphing of the Islamic crescent and star with the Obama campaign logo," and that "Team Obama is behaving in a way that -- as the new MDA logo suggests -- is all about accommodating that 'Islamic Republic' and its ever-more aggressive stance." Gaffney concluded: "Watch this space as we identify and consider various, ominous and far more clear-cut acts of submission to Shariah by President Obama and his team." Gaffney later issued a correction.

FoxNews.com: "Others have noted that [missile defense logo] has a crescent and star design, evoking a common symbol for Islam." In a February 24 article, FoxNews.com acknowledged that the MDA logo "first appeared" on the MDA website "in the fall," nonetheless reported claims that the logo was "strikingly" and "scarily" similar to Obama's 2008 campaign logo, adding that "[o]thers have noted that it has a crescent and star design, evoking a common symbol for Islam." In a Special Report segment, anchor Bret Baier cited an MDA statement calling the claims "ridiculous," and that the new logo is "for recruiting in the public website and was developed almost three years ago" and "has no link to any political campaign." Baier also noted: "The Washington Times points out that the red, white, and blue symbol looks strangely similar to Barack Obama's campaign 'O' from 2008."

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    • Author by gwe (August 19, 2010 8:30 pm ET)
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      The Robert Bork senate confirmation process changed way all future supreme court nominees will be treated. I see the right wing (nut) demagoguery on the current president as changing the rules of the game from now on. Basic truth is out the window. Outright lying in the face of evidence to the contrary will be standard operating procedure. After all, if you can manage to rewrite reality for those weak minded folks that are already leaning toward the abyss of hatred, it's just a small step.

      In the "new" world, one must work hard to get past the endless shouts of the liars to see the truth. The internet has been a great enabler for technology and information exchange. It has also set our society back to the stone ages when it comes to thoughtful dialog. Spreading hate has never been so easy.
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      • Author by phredicles (August 19, 2010 9:13 pm ET)
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        I have decided in light of the last couple of years that I was too reasonable, too nice, to Obama's predecessor, Gaius Caligula Bush, whom I also liked to call Dear Leader Shrub Jong Il. I fully intend to rectify that with the next Rethug that takes office.
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        • Author by mk3872 (August 19, 2010 11:49 pm ET)
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          Just think, tho, with the next Replublican president, they get to have the largest worldwide news organization in News Corp as their own propaganda machine putting out feel-good stories in WSJ & Fox News about what a great Christian he or she is and how they are just like the rest of us.

          It makes me sick to think that will happen.
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        • Author by Unreality (August 20, 2010 1:23 am ET)
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          "Dear Leader Shrub Jong Il" I love that!

          Where's your scorecard of the pretenders for the throne?
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          • Author by phredicles (August 20, 2010 1:47 am ET)
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            I'd say we most need to worry about Hucklenuts: He's able to hide his nutcakery for long periods of time and come across as quite personable. Mitt the Sch!tt is just not very likable (especially if the dog on the car roof story gets any traction), and if Dumbelina doesn't implode on the way to the nomination, she will be dealt a historic @$$-kicking, to be followed by four years of unbelievably bitter, snot-filled twittering or whatever replaces twitter.
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            • Author by nerzog (August 20, 2010 11:39 am ET)
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              If I may be so presumptuous, I think you and I are kindred spirits. I gave up civility years ago when debating Troglodytes. I tried it once, even used my real name, and what I received in return were venom and death threats.

              I won't make that mistake again.
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    • Author by piniella (August 19, 2010 10:24 pm ET)
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      The NY Times and other major publications can't seem to acknowledge the role the Noise Machine has been and is playing.

      http://radamisto.blogspot.com/2010/08/why-so-shy-la-times.html
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    • Author by ojnabieoot (August 19, 2010 10:30 pm ET)
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      This "Obama is a Muslim and prolly a terrorist" might be the most disgusting smear against a president - or any national politician - in all of American history.

      * It's horrendously racist, seeking to delegitimize a black president with an African name.
      * It tacitly accuses Obama of treason.
      * It demonizes the world's second largest religion.
      * It destroys civil debate on our very serious wars.
      * It inflames ethnic tensions at a time of economic distress - a recipe for disaster.

      And, finally, recent polling shows that it's devastatingly effective.

      Historians will note a few things about the first two years of the Obama presidency. It's the most progressive and revolutionary since the 1930's, with the greatest challenges since FDR's tenure. I think eventually that, despite some civil liberties concerns and a worryingly bad war in Afghanistan, Obama will also be regarded as a great president.

      But it's also true that nobody alive has seen American politics get so poisoned and hateful - things haven't been so bad since Reconstruction. Much of it is due to a decaying sense of cooperation since the Clinton years (the politically-motivated impeachment was a historic disgrace), but even more of it seems, inescapably, to be due to our president's heritage.

      As someone who has a strong casual interest in history, I can't deny that I find these historic times in America somewhat exciting and very interesting. But as an American, I'm quite fearful for the future of my country.
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      • Author by Unreality (August 20, 2010 1:32 am ET)
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        "...to be due to our president's heritage."

        This is much too shallow an analysis.

        We all need to realize that the Rovian model is to take the opponent's strength and convert it to a weakness regardless of the truth! They use their propaganda noise machine to generate a false meme and pound it into the idiots.

        It's just way they do it.
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      • Author by LKL (August 21, 2010 10:57 am ET)
           
        Beautifully said and very true . . .
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    • Author by voltaire (August 20, 2010 12:54 am ET)
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      It's a great scheme for the wingnuts. Limbaugh and the other conservative clowns keep saying that Obama is a secret Muslim, and then the morons who believe everything they are told by them think that Obama is a secret Muslim. Then Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, et al claim that Obama must be a secret Muslim since a portion of the public believes that to be the case. Of course, these are the same morons who a year ago were all ferklempt because Obama had stayed for 20 years in a church, that is, a Christian church, led by Jeremiah Wright. I guess if you want to keep your Muslim religion a secret, there is no better way to carry that out then to attend Christian services!
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      • Author by Unreality (August 20, 2010 1:27 am ET)
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        "... there is no better way to carry that out then to attend Christian services."

        Well, how else would one HIDE their Muslim religion?
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        • Author by angels4light (August 20, 2010 11:05 am ET)
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          Drink a beer? Eat pork products?
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          • Author by Unreality (August 20, 2010 5:24 pm ET)
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            The 9/11 planners used to meet in Las Vegas strip clubs. Who'da thunk a buncha dumb ragheads were smart enough to think that up? Musta had some American inside help.

            /sarcasm
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (August 20, 2010 2:12 pm ET)
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        Why not?

        Liberals are everything and anything negative conservative media can accuse us of, even if it directly contradicts what they accused us of five minutes ago. Cognitive dissonance psych ops are a proud tradition of right wing media.
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    • Author by bluestate69 (August 20, 2010 4:55 am ET)
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      the "obama a muslim" phenomenon is because of an endemic problem with the obama administration. obama is not connecting with the american people. its as if he's outside of the national dialogue. this is partly due to his contempt for the "24 hour news cycle", but it also has to do with the absence of a strong political operation in the white house. the administration has lost the message war on almost every political issue. due to this incompetence, the republicans and fox have been able to (easily) define the obama presidency. there needs to be a shake up in this administration before its too late.
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      • Author by bar2 (August 20, 2010 9:01 am ET)
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        This is only true for people who are foolish enough to believe the crap coming from fox. What would you have the white house do, play at the same level as fox? I don't think so. To say he is not connecting with the American people - how do you know that? Based on what? Fox? That kind of statement is exactly what is wrong. Stated like a fact but is purely and totally the opinion of a single person writing the statement. So exactly what is your point?
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      • Author by New Frontier (August 20, 2010 9:37 am ET)
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        Altho perhaps the administration could push back harder and more quickly, the main problem---contrary to your "concerned" analysis, is with the rest of the media not debunking the sewage that flows from Fox News and the right wing sewer pipe, and the sheer gullibility, prejudices and stupidity of a certain segment of the public.
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (August 20, 2010 10:28 am ET)
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        Ah, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

        obama is not connecting with the american people
        Talking point #1

        this is partly due to his contempt for the "24 hour news cycle"
        Talking point #2

        it also has to do with the absence of a strong political operation in the white house
        Talking point #3

        the administration has lost the message war on almost every political issue
        Talking point #4

        the republicans and fox have been able to (easily) define the obama presidency
        Yes, they have. Sad isn't it, that a media organization would work with a political organization in order to deceive the American public.

        there needs to be a shake up in this administration before its too late.
        Talking point #5

        You see, you make six seperate statements, of which, only one actually has any truth to it.

        The other five statements are nothing more than talking points that blame the administration for the actions of Faux News, and others, and which they have zero control over.

        No matter what the administration does it will be spun as being wrong.
        As far as Faux News and the GOP are concerned there isn't anything the current administration could do that would be considered the correct action.


        Thanks for playing.

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      • Author by CoolSlaw (August 20, 2010 2:19 pm ET)
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        It's really a no-win situation as far as the media is concerned. If he ignores it, the hate and lies continue, if he counters it, he wastes the valuable time and resources of the office of the president fighting what will continue anyway, and even fuel the lies and hatred further.

        Many on the left (professional or otherwise)offer the reasoned NORMAL criticism of their President. You see ,it's NORMAL and typically American to have some policy and strategy disagreements with your own party. While on the right you hear nothing but hysteria, misinformation and unrestrained hatred. It is ABNORMAL to agree with everything your party leaders do and say regardless of principle (like the right wing), unless you live in North Korea for example.
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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 20, 2010 3:09 pm ET)
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        the "obama a muslim" phenomenon is because of an endemic problem with the obama administration

        The "Obama is a Muslim" story started long before Obama became President. Back in 2007, the right wing loonies started an e-mail campaign stating Obama was a Muslim. They just re-cycled the story because it's a part of their arsenal of lies.

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        • Author by Floyd (August 21, 2010 8:18 am ET)
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          And to think, Obama STILL can't shake that story. Perhaps Obama doesn't care what people think, so he doesn't do anything, or he IS disconnected from the American public OR he is a muslim. When Obama decides to finally take a stand and state what is truth, we'll all find out. As long as he lets these 'rumors' continue they will continue to be believed.
          How long do you let weeds grow in your garden? Do you pull them out as soon as they are big enough to pull out? Or, do you leave them in the garden hoping they will disappear on their own? Well Obama is letting them grow, so it's no surprise that more people are believing what they hear, he doesn't do enough to discount the rumors.
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          • Author by congero6189599 (August 21, 2010 9:06 am ET)
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            What a pathetic hateful little man.
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          • Author by mmfa.fan (August 21, 2010 12:28 pm ET)
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            Perhaps Obama doesn't care what people think, so he doesn't do anything, or he IS disconnected from the American public OR he is a muslim.


            There's also the possibility that you have nothing of value to contribute here.
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          • Author by eb (August 21, 2010 3:40 pm ET)
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            Perhaps Obama doesn't care what people think, so he doesn't do anything, or he IS disconnected from the American public OR he is a muslim. When Obama decides to finally take a stand and state what is truth, we'll all find out. As long as he lets these 'rumors' continue they will continue to be believed.

            He has explained himself - even written a book about himself. Also he connected with the public during the election. The problem is that the American people are submerged in a media environment that is openly hostile to the president and to non-conservatives. You are blaming Obama for the misinformation campaign directed at him. Well please tell us what he should do?

            How long do you let weeds grow in your garden? Do you pull them out as soon as they are big enough to pull out? Or, do you leave them in the garden hoping they will disappear on their own? Well Obama is letting them grow, so it's no surprise that more people are believing what they hear, he doesn't do enough to discount the rumors.

            Yes, Obama could spend all his time correcting all the errors and attacks coming out of Fox news instead of leading the country. Then the criticism would be that he is neglecting his job.

            Conservatives have derailed rational debate and discussion in this country. With our sick economy, making Obama ineffective and blaming him for is thier strategy.

            Now we talk about stupid trivial stuff like which terrorist supporting mosque our president secretly attends. When we do try to discuss a real issue, it becomes more about who is positioned the best with their talking points and how all the unnecessary hysteria surrounding the issue should be managed.
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            • Author by DellDolly (August 22, 2010 3:09 am ET)
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              But Obama DID spend and still DOES spend significant amounts of time debunking this nonsense, because he DOES understand that it's important to do it!

              And that time he and his staff have to dedicate to that effort is wasted time that we shouldn't have to be spending!
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          • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 21, 2010 11:52 pm ET)
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            And to think, Obama STILL can't shake that story. Perhaps Obama doesn't care what people think, so he doesn't do anything, or he IS disconnected from the American public OR he is a muslim. When Obama decides to finally take a stand and state what is truth, we'll all find out. As long as he lets these 'rumors' continue they will continue to be believed

            No matter how many times you and your loony friends are told that President Obama is not a Muslim, you continue to believe he it. So now the President responsible for YOUR ignorance?

            Crazy folks need to be left alone so that they can continue to have meaningful conversations with themselves. And in your case Floyd, you can't seem to have even meaningful conversations with YOURSELF, so you're really out there in loony land.

            President Obama was left with one of the worst economies since the great depression, 2 wars, record housing foreclosures and on and on. So the President nor anyone else need bother waisting time on you.

            No matter what your told, you continue to stick your fingers in your ears and sing la la la la. So keep right on singing Floyd, you may learn to carry a tune!
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            • Author by Floyd (August 22, 2010 9:43 am ET)
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              Thanks for the Christian name-calling, pearl. I appreciate your Christianity showing through like that.

              However, I do not think he is a Muslim. I think he is some form of Christian. I think he was born in the US. And I think he is doing an admirable job considering the problems he inherited. But, that doesn't mean I'm going to blanket-blame every crisis on Bush/co, like YOU do.

              But, again, thanks for being so Christian and keeping the name-calling to reasonable levels. I'm sure your God will look the other way while you are busy name-calling. It shows how tolerant you are.
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              • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 22, 2010 5:06 pm ET)
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                Thanks for the Christian name-calling, pearl. I appreciate your Christianity showing through like that.
                But, again, thanks for being so Christian and keeping the name-calling to reasonable levels. I'm sure your God will look the other way while you are busy name-calling. It shows how tolerant you are.

                Zechariah 8.16
                These are the things that ye shall do: Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbour; execute the judgement of truth and peace in your gates


                However, I do not think he is a Muslim. I think he is some form of Christian. I think he was born in the US. And I think he is doing an admirable job considering the problems he inherited. But, that doesn't mean I'm going to blanket-blame every crisis on Bush/co, like YOU do.

                That's the first time you've admitted that Floyd.

                As far as Bush taking the blame? He deserves the blame.

                If this country only had one or two problems, when Obama became President you could blame Obama, but we didn't have one or two problems. EVERYTHING was failing. From housing, employment/unemployment, financials/banks, healthcare, deficit, 2 wars (one of choice) and on and on and on.

                President Obama doesn't just have to fix one thing, he has to put people back to work and make up for the dismal 3 million new jobs created under 8 years of Bush. He has to keep the banks solvent, stabilize the housing market, find a way to pay for all the things Bush didn't bother paying for ( tax cuts, 2 wars, medicare prescription drug benefit). He has to keep the country safe, make sure Iran doesn't get a nuke like North Korea did during the Bush years all with ZERO help from the right wing loonies.

                You say don't blame Bush? WHO should I blame?

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        • Author by The_Cat (August 21, 2010 7:20 pm ET)
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          The 'Obama is a Muslim' story co-exists in Faux Con minds with 'Obama is a Jeremiah Wright Christian'. They have no problem believing or spreading two completely contradictory lies at the same time. See Floyd for an example of same.
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    • Author by southerngal (August 20, 2010 11:40 am ET)
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      "The view that Obama is a Muslim is more widespread among his political opponents than among his backers."

      Well there you have it. Many of Obama's political opponents don't think he was born here, and will look under any rock to find something to delegitimize him. It's what drives the opposition in the political narrative these days, the talk radio mentality out to literally destroy your opponents.

      It's sickening.

      The best way to neutralize this is the economy, "stupid". It always is. Carville was so right years ago. When people have jobs and job security and the stresses of that uncertainty is lessened, they aren't as likely to pay attention to this nonsense. Doesn't make much sense that rumors fly faster when people are unsettled, but I think they do. I guess they are looking for something to blame.
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (August 20, 2010 2:36 pm ET)
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        I agree with most of your post. The problem is that the economic problems were dealing with right now are deeply woven into the fabric of our policy and discourse and have been building to this for several decades.

        I would assume your solution to the economic woes of 2010 are more tax cuts? If so, keep in mind that taxes on the wealthy have been at historic lows for many years now. Despite greatly declining taxes, those cuts have not translated into more revenue, and we've seen the American employment landscape decimated as those at the top who were supposed to create all those new jobs with their tax breaks decided to embrace the un-American virtue of "off shoring" our industrial workforce. At the same time, unions have been stripped bare and crushed turning the typical single wage household into one where both parents must work. We've also seen the lending industry turn into predatory capitalists.

        I agree that the economy having a massive shift in a positive direction would be a strong counter to the hysteria and lies coming from the conservative movement. Sadly, I think the President (and the right wing leaders) know that the instability of an adjustment period to fix these deep and pervasive systemic problems would be difficult to sell to the American people. In fact the right wing are counting on this and will take advantage of it to regain power so they can continue the policies that got us into this mess in the first place.
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    • Author by southerngal (August 20, 2010 11:54 am ET)
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      And as usual, South Park nails it when it comes to what some people will believe, no matter what.
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    • Author by ny2nc (August 21, 2010 6:28 am ET)
         
      What, exactly, is a "bitter clinger?"

      Does it have something to do wth Jamie Farr, or..?
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    • Author by Floyd (August 21, 2010 8:25 am ET)
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      If you say Obama is a muslim enough times, people will believe it. It worked for Bush. You people called him stupid for all those years and some finally believed you. However, he kept the economy rolling steadily uphill (as his predecessor did) and defended the nation against terrorists and even got an agreement done for the final departure from Iraq. All that done until the democrats took over the house and senate, then everything went south. Except the agreement with Iraq. Obama gets to take credit for what Bush achieved.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (August 21, 2010 9:08 am ET)
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        ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!! Get a life bozo.
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      • Author by mmfa.fan (August 21, 2010 10:24 am ET)
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        he kept the economy rolling steadily uphill


        ROFL. Good one.
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        • Author by eb (August 21, 2010 3:42 pm ET)
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          he kept the economy rolling steadily uphill

          With statements like that, I almost think we deserve a republican run economy.
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      • Author by The_Cat (August 21, 2010 7:27 pm ET)
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        If you say Obama is a muslim enough times, people will believe it. It worked for Bush.

        Yes it did. Bush said Saddam had WMDs enough times that we eventually illegally invaded Iraq.

        However, he kept the economy rolling steadily uphill...

        Rolling steadily uphill? Really?
        [http://cnewmark.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834fd816853ef01287771ff58970c-500wi]

        ...and defended the nation against terrorists...


        Kept us safe? Really?
        [http://www.shallownation.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/National_Geographic_9-11_Science_And_Conspiracy_6.jpg]
        [quote][and even got an agreement done for the final departure from Iraq. All that done until the democrats took over the house and senate, then everything went south. Except the agreement with Iraq. Obama gets to take credit for what Bush achieved./quote]
        Okay, now you're just being silly.
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        • Author by Floyd (August 22, 2010 9:53 am ET)
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          Gee, the writing on that graph is too small to read. Does it compare one year of Bush to one year of Obama? I guess answering with out-of-context stats is the only way you can make an argument? Please show the graph (from the same site) that shows Bush's economical stats from 2000-2006. Could you do that? Especially interested in the unemployment numbers from 2000-2006, could you find those too? How about the stock market from those years? How about housing? How about medium income levels?

          Try to bring related facts to your rants. Not un-related like you currently are doing.
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          • Author by The_Cat (August 22, 2010 11:10 am ET)
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            The stats on my graph run from December 07 to January 10, Floyd.

            Hmm. Employment. Well, how about what the Wall Street Journal has to say about Bush's job creation track record. Let's see, shall we?

            George W. Bush: 3.0 million jobs in 8 years
            Bill Clinton: 23.1 million jobs in 8 years
            George Bush Sr.: 2.5 million jobs in 4 years

            Fact is, Dumbya had the worst economic record since the government began keeping stats back in 1939. He was a lousy president. He didn't keep us safe. He trashed our economy. He trashed our international reputation.
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    • Author by draftedin68 (August 21, 2010 12:17 pm ET)
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      Bigot U

      If there were an actual college for bigotry, Roger Ailes, the father of FOX NEWS, would hold three positions:

      - President
      - Dean of Admissions
      - Professor of Hatred

      I can think of no other person who has done as much as Ailes to pump hate, lies and distortions into America's airwaves and cable systems.


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