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Lou Dobbs brings his immigration lies to Fox

August 30, 2010 12:54 pm ET — 49 Comments

Fox News' America Live repeatedly hosts Lou Dobbs to mislead on immigration issues, despite his history of making false and absurd claims on the issue, such grossly overestimating the number of new leprosy cases in the U.S. and blaming that distorted figure on immigrants.

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Dobbs pushed falsehood that Obama is "holding border security hostage"

Dobbs pushes Sen. Kyl's claim--which Kyl later walked back--that Obama told Kyl "he would hold border security hostage" to get comprehensive immigration reform. On the August 26 edition of America Live, Dobbs pushed the claim that "Senator Jon Kyl of Arizona, remember, saying that it was very straightforward, that the President said he would hold border security hostage to so-called comprehensive immigration reform." Host Megyn Kelly had to correct Dobbs, by noting that Kyl "dialed that back later."

Burton: "The president didn't say that. Senator Kyl knows the president didn't say that." The Washington Post reported on June 21 that Kyl "said that President Obama personally told him the administration will not support stricter border enforcement until Republicans back broad immigration reform." The Post continued:

The White House strongly denied the claim.

At a town hall in Arizona on Friday, Kyl responded to a voter's question about immigration by detailing a one-on-one meeting he had with Obama. According to Kyl, "The president said the problem is if we secure the border, then you all won't have any reason to support comprehensive immigration reform."

"In other words, they're holding it hostage," Kyl said at the event, a video of was circulated widely online on Monday, but not from Kyl's office. "They won't secure the border unless and until is it combined with comprehensive immigration reform."

Bill Burton, a White House spokesman, said, "The president didn't say that. Senator Kyl knows the president didn't say that."

"But what everybody knows because the President has made it perfectly clear is that what we need to do is everything that we can to bring about comprehensive immigration reform," he added. "And that includes not just securing the border, but doing a lot of other things."

Sen. Kyl had to walk back his own accusation. From a June 25 National Review Online post:

Kyl, of course, had a small spat with the White House last week over comments he made at a town-hall meeting. Kyl, responding to a voter's question, detailed a recent one-on-one conversation he had with the president. "They are holding [border security] hostage" over hopes for comprehensive immigration reform, Kyl said at the forum.

Kyl tells us that the comments were "taken a bit out of context," and that the "they" he was referring to was the Left, "the president's base," and not the administration. "I did not try to start a fight. This meeting happened a month ago and we were talking in the context of his political problems. He was talking about how they think that if we secure the border, you guys [Republicans] won't have the incentive to work on comprehensive immigration reform."

America Live regularly hosts Dobbs to mislead on immigration

Dobbs falsely claims Obama's border efforts are a "foundation" for "unconditional amnesty."  On the August 9 edition of Fox News' America Live, Dobbs called the border security bill "a modest border security piece of legislation," and claimed "it would give [the Obama administration] the foundation to say, we did something about border security...and then move ahead and have their way on the issue of unconditional amnesty." Dobbs later claimed "we are not seeing a commitment to actual detention and apprehension."

In fact, the Obama administration has increased both border security and immigration enforcement. Contrary to Dobb's claims, the Obama administration "has outdone its predecessor on border enforcement spending and on deportations." The administration has increased Border Patrol agents, spending on immigration, employer audits, and illegal immigrant deportations. In addition, the number of unauthorized immigrants in the United States has declined, and, according to the Wall Street Journal, the "[t]he number of people caught illegally entering the U.S. dropped by more than 23% during the past year, continuing a longer trend, federal data shows."

Dobbs advances myth that DHS memo showed "this administration is trying to have unconditional amnesty." Later in the August 9 edition of America Live, Dobbs said "We've had citizenship and immigration services, national review online did a terrific public service and published a memo showing this administration is looking for ways to create de facto comprehensive immigration reform or unconditional amnesty." Kelly falsely replied "that's confirmed, just read the report."

In fact, the White House has made clear they do not "support amnesty" and do not plan on using "discretionary authority." White House press secretary Robert Gibbs confirmed that the administration "doesn't support amnesty" and was not planning on using "discretionary authority" to, in the words of Fox News host Steve Doocy, "allow people who are in the country illegally to stay in the country." Further, the Department of Homeland Security memo to which Dobbs refers specifically recommends against deferred action, which is defined as "an exercise of prosecutorial discretion not to pursue removal from the U.S. of a particular individual for a specific period of time." The memo states that "doing so would likely be controversial, not to mention expensive," so, "Rather than making deferred action widely available to hundreds of thousands and as a non-legislative version of 'amnesty,' [U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services] could tailor the use of this discretionary option for particular groups such as individuals who would be eligible for relief under the DREAM Act."

Dobbs has a long history of immigration misinformation, including falsely claiming immigrants spread leprosy

Dobbs has a long history of spreading immigration misinformation and conspiracy theories. He has routinely discussed the North American Union conspiracy theory, incorrectly claimed that undocumented immigrants drain social services and don't pay taxes, and repeatedly amplified the falsehood that undocumented immigrants are disproportionately violent. He has been an unrepentant purveyor of hateful attacks, fraudulently claiming, for example, that immigrants are spreading leprosy and seek to reconquer the southwestern United States. And in 2009, he legitimized the thoroughly debunked birther conspiracy theory concerning the authenticity of President Obama's birth certificate.

Dobbs resigned from CNN under pressure for his anti-immigration views. According to The New York Times: "[T]he president of CNN/U.S., Jonathan Klein, offered a choice to Lou Dobbs ... [he] could vent his opinions on radio and anchor an objective newscast on television, or he could leave CNN." As a result of pressure put on CNN by Media Matters and other Hispanic groups to drop Dobbs, he announced his departure from CNN, citing a desire to "go beyond the role here at CNN, and to engage in constructive problem solving, as well as to contribute positively to a better understanding of the great issues of our day, and to continue to do so in the most honest, and direct language possible."

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    • Author by dkylep (August 30, 2010 1:03 pm ET)
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      What a shock. More lies from a noted liar. It's odd how people can simply not acknowledge the truth about something, despite all the facts thrown in their face. The very moment a public personality is caught in a bald-faced lie should be the moment that people all over the land stop listening to him/her, and cease giving them any forum to spout their ignorant garbage.

      Sadly that's not the way it works. These people continue producing lie after lie after lie. The lies are caught some of the time, reported on even less, and yet when you show (with video sometimes!) the lies of their favorite talking head to their supporters, those people simply wash it all away. They pay no attention to it whatsoever. They even believe the talking head when it claims that there was no lie to begin with!

      It's baffling and sad and strange and doesn't leave a whole lot of optimism for the continued development of an enlightened society or species.
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      • Author by okiepoli (August 30, 2010 1:27 pm ET)
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        I agree with almost all of your post.

        It is not, however, baffling - this particular human trait has been studied - read the article here, it is brief and has links to the related research.
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        • Author by DellDolly (August 30, 2010 2:54 pm ET)
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          Thanks for providing that - I've seen it before but it might be new to others here.

          I think that the cause is pretty simple.

          When the foundation of one's beliefs is shaken, one can either change one's beliefs or they can feel threatened by the "attack" on one's beliefs. The stronger the facts that shake that foundation are, the more vicious that "attack" will seem.

          And that's the problem we see here all the time. People who get debunked claim that we're trying to shut them up. People say that we attack those we disagree with, instead of recognizing that we're simply attacking their nonsense. They pose as victims, sometimes truly believing that they ARE victims.

          I think that liberals generally are more open-minded, but much of that could be because reality has a liberal bias, and the rightwing can't win based upon the facts.
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          • Author by southerngal (August 30, 2010 3:25 pm ET)
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            Spoken by the most "victimized" name calling attacker this website has ever known.

            R.I.C.H.
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            • Author by DellDolly (August 30, 2010 5:09 pm ET)
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              It's undeniable that I am attacked.

              Undeniable. It's been documented multiple times as happening in several different ways.

              And it's also been documented that it's the right who falsely claim victimhood.

              Just as your personal animus towards me continues to get documented. Please, don't ever stop digging that hole.
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      • Author by mari2jj (September 01, 2010 8:01 pm ET)
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        Well, Fox is truly a better fit for Lou. He can continue to tell lies about Obama and others all the time and do so with immunity. In fact, he will no doubt get raises when he does it often and wholeheartedly. Then of course, there is no editorial controls for that sort of blabber so as I say, Lou should love Fox. Also, it relieves me from channel surfing as I was forced to do when Lou used to come on. When the BS got so thick it is unbearable, I knew Lou was on CNN and I had unfortunately failed to channel surf. So welcomd to not being on CNN, Lou!
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    • Author by DAWUSS (August 30, 2010 2:17 pm ET)
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      So when will he officially get a show on FOX?
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    • Author by DellDolly (August 30, 2010 3:01 pm ET)
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      Lou Dobbs won't admit that he resigned under pressure due to his ideas about immigration. But of course he did.

      And pushing Sen Jon Kyl's nonsense about President Obama holding immigration reform hostage? Kyl was pushing that false meme before he ever met with Obama, and so it was clear from the start that Obama hadn't told Kyl that during their meeting! He was simply trying to garner attention!

      As I documented with multiple links on June 21st

      Well, I believe that Kyl and Obama met without anyone else present. I do NOT believe that Kyl kicked anyone out - the President occasionally has one-on-one meetings without a transcriptionist there.

      Now, I DO believe that Senator Kyl is taking advantage of that fact in order to push this deception, especially since he's made this bogus charge many, many times before, most recently last Thursday!

      Kyl said it was not a good idea for Democrats to "try to hold hostage the security of the border in order to get comprehensive immigration reform passed."

      What seems clear is that Kyl is simply USING a private meeting with Obama to try to gain some credibility - but since he'd previously said the same thing, it really looks like the move of a desperate man.

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      • Author by null1fy (August 30, 2010 11:10 pm ET)
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        I can definitely see why this isn't a watchdog or a 'debunker' or a centrist web site. All of your opponets have left due to this website's ideaology. It is so apparent, it would make as much sense as a jew going to a Catholic web site.

        The misinformation that mmfa and their worshipers breeds is insatiable.

        There are no arguments here, or much intellect for that matter. It is all one-sided namecalling, hate and intolerance. Go back to your professors, go back to your universities, and come back after a couple of kids and storing up things that you can't take with you to the grave.
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        • Author by DellDolly (August 30, 2010 11:27 pm ET)
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          Thanks for providing all those examples of all the sins you listed - oops, that's right, you didn't provide a single example of ANY sins or flaws that you mention.

          All you did was through out several baseless insults masked in bad grammar, unintelligible sentences and nonsense.
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          • Author by null1fy (August 30, 2010 11:35 pm ET)
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            I apologize for my grammar, as I am a simple man, and I know many on this website fixate greatly on spelling errors and grammar mistakes. I applaud you for your flawless grammar and spelling, as I am sure you will be greatly rewarded for those things.

            Behold our Lord on the Cross, DellDolly. Behold his great love for us. I have made no insults as he would suffer even more if I were to have done such a thing, and if you twist the truth of my words to form them into insults, than I am guilty of scandal. Lableing misinformation is no more than labeling dog feces dog feces.
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            • Author by MiniTru (August 31, 2010 8:04 am ET)
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              You still haven't provided any evidence of lies put out by MMfA. Until you do that, your blatherings are just that -- blatherings.
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              • Author by null1fy (August 31, 2010 9:47 pm ET)
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                It's not about lies, or "examples" as DellDolly put it, it's about ideaology. I suppose since I have a wife and children, we are considered 'breeders' to liberals, correct?

                The only lies that I see are my words being taken out of context, rebuked with false information and ignorance of the church, and cherry picked for grammar. And to further degrade me, I am 'blathering'. I can see Glenn Beck putting the pipe in his mouth to mock you now. I am merely exposing the godless, and by doing so I can further identify genuinely curious intellectuals versus berserk left wingers such as DellDolly.

                So if I were to stoop to your level, MiniTru, I'd probably use ad-hominem attacks as well and tell you that you are ignorant. Ad-hominem attacks are not fallacy, in themselves unless they are illogically tied to an arguement. In this case your ignorance of logic doesn't prove or disprove the arguement, but you are still ignorant.
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                • Author by didi (September 01, 2010 11:11 am ET)
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                  OMG it's another oppressed right winger whining about his lot in life.

                  What a surprise.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (September 01, 2010 11:21 am ET)
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                  Wow what a defense system you've built to rationalize your hate even using religion as some sort of shield against criticism. All you've done here is insult.

                  In reply to DD's well thought out and factual post filled with examples of what she was speaking none of which contained a insult,your reply:

                  "...The misinformation that mmfa and their worshipers breeds is insatiable.

                  There are no arguments here, or much intellect for that matter. It is all one-sided namecalling, hate and intolerance. Go back to your professors, go back to your universities, and come back after a couple of kids and storing up things that you can't take with you to the grave." ---open source

                  DD presented arguments you just didn't address them instead you called people here uninformed adolescents(which you were called on before)with no work or family experience (I've raised 3 college educated and productive men,and have worked most my life). Anyway, when asked by DD to provide proof of what you spoke :

                  "Thanks for providing all those examples of all the sins you listed - oops, that's right, you didn't provide a single example of ANY sins or flaws that you mention.

                  All you did was through out several baseless insults masked in bad grammar, unintelligible sentences and nonsense."---Dell Dolly

                  Your nonsensical reply was to play the victim and invoke God!?!?:

                  "...Behold our Lord on the Cross, DellDolly. Behold his great love for us. I have made no insults as he would suffer even more if I were to have done such a thing, and if you twist the truth of my words to form them into insults, than I am guilty of scandal. Lableing misinformation is no more than labeling dog feces dog feces." ---open source

                  Just calling it like you see it in the name of God right? No insult there just calling sh$t,sh$t,right?

                  When again asked what sh$t you were talking about this time from another poster :

                  "You still haven't provided any evidence of lies put out by MMfA. Until you do that, your blatherings are just that -- blatherings."---- MiniTru

                  You admit you have none and it's all based on your ideological beliefs which by the way are unsubstaniated. I haven't heard anyone here call you a breeder or anyname during this post the only one throwing around names and stereotypes is you and all in Gods name,I call that hyprocrisy:

                  "It's not about lies, or "examples" as DellDolly put it, it's about ideaology. I suppose since I have a wife and children, we are considered 'breeders' to liberals, correct?"---open source

                  Now playing the victim when all could see here is that you were asked for proof of what you were saying you continue your rant:

                  "...And to further degrade me, I am 'blathering'. I can see Glenn Beck putting the pipe in his mouth to mock you now. I am merely exposing the godless, and by doing so I can further identify genuinely curious intellectuals versus berserk left wingers such as DellDolly."---open source

                  Now for the icing on the cake after having done nothing but attack others here and name call you end with:

                  "So if I were to stoop to your level, MiniTru, I'd probably use ad-hominem attacks as well and tell you that you are ignorant. Ad-hominem attacks are not fallacy, in themselves unless they are illogically tied to an arguement. In this case your ignorance of logic doesn't prove or disprove the arguement, but you are still ignorant." ----open source

                  A therapist would have a field day with your above justifications for your hate and using God puts you in a special category but we don't need an analyst your words and thought progression are there for ALL to see. The hater is not us but YOU.























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                • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 01, 2010 6:34 pm ET)
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                  It's not about lies, or "examples" as DellDolly put it, it's about ideaology. - OpenSource

                  Yes, we know in your world it is. But, in reality it should be about facts and examples. When understand that you Beckers have no use for facts. You rely on emotions and ideology. I feel sorry for you.
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            • Author by JoeSixpack (August 31, 2010 8:04 am ET)
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              What exactly have you labelled? All I see is unsubstantiated, non-specific allegations. Seems to me like you had a pre-made label and couldn't find anything to stick it on.
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            • Author by DellDolly (August 31, 2010 3:55 pm ET)
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              Yeah, way to pretend to miss the point.

              You make multiple baseless accusations.

              And in this post above, again, your post is full of unintelligible gobbledygook.

              People here on this site DO NOT fixate on spelling errors or grammar mistakes. That's totally bogus and unsupportable, but oops, you didn't even TRY to support that accusation with any evidence.

              If you can't understand how making a cogent argument is valuable, then you can't have even graduated from elementary school!
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              • Author by null1fy (August 31, 2010 4:51 pm ET)
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                So if people don't fixate on spelling errors or grammar mistakes, why did you fixate on it on your above post? Awesome cognitive argument there.
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                • Author by southerngal (August 31, 2010 5:24 pm ET)
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                  It's DollySue. She attempts to rewrite history with every post and her subsequent ones are overflowing with so many contradictions she can't keep track. Knee jerk posting fixating on personally attacking those she disagrees with is what she does, and always has.

                  Pay her no mind, if she can't refute your points she will find something else to go after. In this case, grammar. Weak. But it's all she has.
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                  • Author by congero6189599 (September 01, 2010 11:29 am ET)
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                    Pay her no mind, if she can't refute your points she will find something else to go after. In this case, grammar. Weak. But it's all she has. ---RO

                    I'am curious I've read open sources post on this matter what points did he raise that would require a thoughtful response? You sure do pick weird friends.

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                    • Author by southerngal (September 01, 2010 2:05 pm ET)
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                      Because when you go after, or fixate, on someone's grammatical errors, as DollySue did, that means you have nothing else. No intelligent rebuttal. Only a stupid grammar lesson to try and distract. That is what she did. And then she tries to worm her way out of it after a glaring contradiction on her part, like she always does.

                      That is what prompted my reply to OpenSource.
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                      • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 01, 2010 6:36 pm ET)
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                        But, in defense of Dolly, what else is there in OpenSource's statements? What does he supply that can be construed as an honest debate? He openly admits he has no use for examples, only ideology. I'll save my concern for one's sensitivities when they show me they have made some attempt at an honest, adult debate.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (September 01, 2010 11:26 am ET)
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                  one sentence in a post calling for proof of what you say is not fixating,stop crying victim and back up your charges.
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        • Author by bobklahn (August 31, 2010 11:09 am ET)
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          As a Catholic I can see good reason for a Jew to go to a Catholic website.

          For all your one sided name calling, you are blind. Further down you invoke God, but my God forbids bearing false witness. You bear false witness. Look at the links in the article. MMFA provides the actual video. MMFA provides the actual memo that shows Dobbs a liar. MMFA provides a link to the actual National Review Online report that Kyle said Obama did not hold border protection hostage. National Review is a right wing allegedly heavily Christian magazine.

          I am a firm opponent of illegal immigrants and amnesty, but I am also a firm opponent of lies.

          You need to tell the truth.
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          • Author by null1fy (August 31, 2010 9:50 pm ET)
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            I cannot respond well to your argument. The suppositions that you allude to are beyond ridiculous. But I will pray for you.
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            • Author by bilbo_dies (September 01, 2010 7:57 am ET)
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              But I will pray for you.


              Because it allows me to feel superior to you while at the same time stoking my sense of self worth that I am such a good person.
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              • Author by congero6189599 (September 01, 2010 11:31 am ET)
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                Amazing isn't it?
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                • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 01, 2010 6:38 pm ET)
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                  Sad, actually. I pity him. With such strong cognitive dissonance and seemingly pride in his ignorance, there is not hope for any knowledge or honesty to slip in there.
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            • Author by congero6189599 (September 01, 2010 11:33 am ET)
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              So your reply is to stomp your feet,put your hands over your eyes and scream so you don't hear just like a child and you call us children? What a joke. I'll prey for you.
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        • Author by Old_Benjamin (August 31, 2010 11:56 am ET)
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          All of your opponets have left due to this website's ideaology.


          Well it makes me sad that they haven't bothered to read about this site and it's goals...

          Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.


          And I'm not sure what this means...

          The misinformation that mmfa and their worshipers breeds is insatiable.


          And as far as this...

          Go back to your professors, go back to your universities, and come back after a couple of kids and storing up things that you can't take with you to the grave.


          You really have no idea about the regulars here and seem to have a poor grasp of the diversity displayed in the progressive movement.

          But I'm sure you can go crying back to freeperville and have a great argument with much intellectual heft and NO name-calling.

          You're welcome.
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        • Author by coldteablues19577325 (August 31, 2010 6:31 pm ET)
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          "The misinformation that mmfa and their worshipers breeds is insatiable." --OpenSource

          May I ask you a few questions? What is the purpose behind your board name? Open source, to me, indicates that you would welcome fact-based sources; however, I seldom have witnessed you EVER link to anything. Do you ever read the articles that MMfA take the time to post here? Do you fact-check much or very often, and if you do, do you bother to look at both sides before making your choice? Speaking for myself, I have been known to change my mind once in a while after fact-checking both sides.
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          • Author by null1fy (August 31, 2010 10:04 pm ET)
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            My screen name is because I believe in and support open source coding in the IT industry. Ideas being brought together by deveopers for the sake of making a product better versus for the sake of monetary profit.

            I also never really had a left/right ideaology until about the time when Obama was elected president. I also had a great amount of distain for president Bush and how he was destroying the country. I would consider myself to be center-right for the most part. I am against abortion and big government.

            After Bush, I thought FINALLY, someone who would come in and fix all this nonsense. I defended him when my family was all up in arms about Obama being elected too, especially when he froze government salaries when he was 1st put in office. I thought that was great.

            Now after the health care thing, not listening to America, lack of transparency, bowing to foreign ministers which makes us look weak, more stimulus bills being passed around, I can see that he is much, much, much worse. Look at our deficit. And at this point, you can all stop blaming bush.
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            • Author by Old_Benjamin (September 01, 2010 1:29 pm ET)
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              I also had a great amount of distain for president Bush and how he was destroying the country.


              And yet...

              I also never really had a left/right ideaology until about the time when Obama was elected president.


              So what prompted you to start ranting against the current prez? I mean you claim you had distain (sic) <and you have the gall to claim that "english is our national language?> for Bush. Yet Obama has moved you to speak out. I wonder what it could be? Hmmm...
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              • Author by null1fy (September 01, 2010 3:13 pm ET)
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                My family heatlh care insurance rates went up after he signed the bogus new law into effect. That's what prompted me. Don't blame the company, blame him.
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                • Author by Old_Benjamin (September 01, 2010 3:59 pm ET)
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                  So that's the first time your insurance rates went up? When they have in the past, were the increases in line with inflation? Did you ever blame your insurer for increases in premiums?

                  And nice to see the issue that brought you to this newly held ideal of federal fiscal responsibility was one of your own dollars and cents. What about the trillion in the two wars? The tax cuts for the wealthy (during those two wars)? I guess your premiums didn't go up - so no harm.

                  Now you also mentioned the "bowing". Again, where were you when W was holding hands with and kissing members of the House of Saud? I'm guessing not a peep. And lack of transparency? Have you ever heard of presidential signing statements? Not listening to America? They elected him and knew his positions when they did so. And since so much effort is made by those on your side of the aisle to lie about his policies, no wonder some of these issues don't poll well for him - the public doesn't know the whole truth in a lot of cases (death panels?). More stimulus bills passed around? What - did they use these bills to roll joints? Anyway - you are either woefully under informed, or a liar (my money is on option 2).
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                  • Author by congero6189599 (September 01, 2010 4:21 pm ET)
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                    His rate went up the insurer told him because Obama signed a law that hasn't taken effect yet. What a liar.
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                  • Author by null1fy (September 01, 2010 5:29 pm ET)
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                    They've gone up before in small increments, ANUALLY. Mainly when I've added a new family member to the policy.

                    Cause and effect: New law signed, my rates substantially go up. And not during the annual renewal.

                    Sorry you don't like it, that's just the way it is. It's hard to mask your lies and bush-blaming with that sort of evidence.
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                • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 01, 2010 6:41 pm ET)
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                  My family heatlh care insurance rates went up after he signed the bogus new law into effect. - OpenSource

                  Wow. Lack of basic knowledge concerning our healthcare industry and selfishness all in one. I'll pray for you.
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    • Author by little poncho (September 01, 2010 5:56 am ET)
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      it's a toss who is most BORING, uncle louie or slant head!!!!!!!!!!!
      an idea for fixed news program live from ny. it's the uncle louie and slant head show!!!
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