Fox disappears right-wing media's role in forming public's misconceptions about Obama
While discussing the September 6 Newsweek cover that highlights the commonly held and often contradictory misconceptions about Obama, Fox News contributors Angela McGlowan and John Fund disappeared the right-wing media's role in spreading the misinformation and instead attributed the misconceptions to Obama's own behavior. Indeed, Fox News and the right wing media have been at the forefront of advancing the very misinformation about Obama that Newsweek identified.
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Newsweek cover highlights right-wing driven, often contradictory misinformation about Obama
Newsweek highlights Fox News' role in spreading contradictory misinformation about Obama. In the September 6 edition of Newsweek, the cover highlights the contradictory misinformation the right-wing media, led by Fox News, and Republicans have been spreading about Obama. The cover reads: "The Making of a Terrorist-Coddling, Warmongering, Wall Street-Loving, Socialistic, Godless, Muslim President...who isn't actually any of these things." From Newsweek:

Newsweek: "Fox often covers Obama's place of birth and religion more as matters of opinion than of fact." After reporting on a recent Newsweek poll which showed that an increasing number of people wrongly believe Obama to be Muslim and that a majority of Republicans believed Obama to be sympathetic "with the goals of fundamentalists who want to impose Islamic law around the world," Newsweek fingered Fox News as being partially to blame for people holding these inaccurate beliefs. From Newsweek:
The latest NEWSWEEK Poll tells a disturbing story. Obama's approval rating is 47 percent, slightly better than in the spring and not terrible for a president facing disturbing economic news. (Ronald Reagan touched bottom with 41 percent approval during the 1982-83 recession.) The problem is that some of the lies about Obama are gathering strength. In 2008, 13 percent of Americans were under the misimpression that he was a Muslim. Now the figure is 24 percent. One explanation may be that Obama's connection to his Chicago church was fresher in the public mind then. But the deeper problem is a growing number of people who think the president is not just disappointing or wrongheaded but dangerous. More than half of Republicans surveyed (52 percent) think it's "definitely true" or "probably true" that Obama "sympathizes with the goals of fundamentalists who want to impose Islamic law around the world." This says more about the mindset of the GOP than about Obama. It reflects not just the usual personal and partisan animus of the age (George W. Bush was subjected to exceptionally nasty attacks from the left) but a flight from facts--a startling disconnect between a quarter of the country and what some of Bush's aides once disparagingly called "the reality-based community."
The blame for this extends from Fox News and the Republican leadership, to the peculiar psychology of resentment in public opinion, to the ham-handed political response of the Obama White House. Whatever the cause, if smash-mouth tactics are validated by huge GOP gains in the midterm elections, then Big Lie politics may be with us for good.
In some ways, it has always been with us, going back to the 18th-century calumny of James Callender against John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Alexander Hamilton. More recently, the Rev. Jerry Falwell sponsored a film that falsely accused President Clinton of ordering murders and dealing drugs. What's changed about politics as a contact sport is the reach of the lies. With the exception of Father Charles Coughlin, the anti-Semitic "radio priest" of the 1930s, reactionaries haven't generally had big audiences. But now the cranks who once could do little more than write ranting letters to the editor on the red ribbons of their typewriters (loaded with exclamation points and in all caps, of course) can spread their venom virally, with the help of right-wing billionaires underwriting their organizations. And while the cable network they watch, Fox News, might not actively promote the idea that the president is a foreign-born Muslim, it does little to knock it down. Fox often covers Obama's place of birth and religion more as matters of opinion than of fact.
Fox objects to Newsweek and declares Obama to blame for misconceptions about himself
McGlowan suggests Democrats are blaming Republicans for the misinformation to cover for Democratic losses in the midterm elections. On Fox & Friends, co-host Gretchen Carlson said that, "if you go inside the article they blame it, the author blames it on the right wing putting these lies out there." Fox News Contributor Angela McGlowan suggested the criticism was unfounded, saying, "It is a right-wing conspiracy. When Republicans take over in November, you have to blame someone...so they're going to blame the fact that conservatives are putting these spots out there."
Fund: Obama "bears some of the responsibility for these misconceptions." On the September 3 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, the Wall Street Journal's John Fund claimed that Obama "allowed his image to slip away from him," in part, by "not going to church, for example, regularly, by not joining a church." Fund concluded: "He bears some of the responsibility for these misconceptions."
Right-wing rhetoric: Obama is a Muslim
Pew Research poll finding 1/5 Americans believe Obama is a Muslim says 60% of that number "cite the media" as how they learned Obama's religion. In a poll released on August 18, the Pew Research Center found that "nearly one-in-five Americans (18%) now say Obama is a Muslim, up from 11% in March 2009." The poll also found "When asked how they learned about Obama's religion in an open-ended question, 60% of those who say Obama is a Muslim cite the media. Among specific media sources, television (at 16%) is mentioned most frequently. About one-in-ten (11%) of those who say Obama is a Muslim say they learned of this through Obama's own words and behavior."
Right-wing media repeatedly falsely claims or suggests that Obama is a Muslim. Media Matters for America has documented numerous instances in which right-wing media figures and outlets, including Fox News, falsely assert or suggest that Obama is a Muslim. For instance:
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Limbaugh: "How can America be Islamophobic? We elected Obama, didn't we?" On the August 25 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show, Limbaugh said, "How can America be islamophobic? We elected Obama, didn't we?" On his August 19 radio show, Rush Limbaugh, who lately has taken to calling Obama "Imam Obama", said: "Has Obama ever called Muslims 'bitter clingers'? Well, he's called Christians 'bitter clingers.' He did that in San Francisco. I'm just throwing these things out here, folks, because people are questioning his Christianity. Some think he's a Muslim. I'm just saying there might be reasons why some people think this." Limbaugh also said during the same show, "If it was OK, and even laudatory, to call Bill Clinton America's first black president, why can't we call Imam Obama America's first Muslim president?"
- Wash. Times' Kuhner: Obama is a "cultural Muslim." In a July 8 Washington Times op-ed, Jeffrey Kuhner wrote that Obama is "betraying the Jews" and that he "is a cultural Muslim whose sympathies lie with the Islamic world in its life-death struggle against Israel."
- Geller: Obama's Pearl comments were "spoken like an" "antisemitic Muslim terrorist." In a May 18 post, Geller wrote of Obama's comments on the signing of the Daniel Pearl Freedom of the Press Act: "The Daniel Pearl beheading 'captured the world's imagination' -- spoken like an ..........antisemitic Muslim terrorist. Pearl was beheaded because of Islamic anti-semitism and violent jihadi doctrine. Freedom of the press had nothing to do with it. And this coming from a plant who is attempting to restrict these freedoms ..............press and speech." In fact, Obama was honoring Pearl in his comments.
- Quinn on Obama: "I think he's a Muslim." Seizing on reports that Obama had gone golfing on Christmas Day 2009, Jim Quinn said on his radio show: "I know that it's very impolitic to bring this up but I think he's a Muslim. Sorry, I do." Quinn, who has also repeatedly suggested Obama is Muslim, said of Obama on his February 26 radio show, "You've got a nexus here of angry black nationalism" and "whose entire family is Muslim."
- Geller calls Obama "the Muslim president." Geller's blog contains 267 posts tagged, "Muslim in the White House?" In a June 2, 2009, post, Geller called Obama "The Muslim president." Calling it a "critical issue," Geller wrote in January 2008 that "Obama went to a madrassa in Jakarta," that "he practiced Islam," and that "if Obama makes it to the big house, Israel is screwed. Finished." On May 30, 2009, Geller wrote that with his Cairo speech, Obama "proved everything I said to be true." In fact, CNN debunked the "madrassa" falsehood in January of 2007, and as Newsweek stated, "Barack Obama has never been Muslim and never practiced Islam."
- Fox News' Special Report asks of Obama: "Islam or Isn't He?" During a June 4, 2009, segment, Fox News' Special Report aired a quote by Obama national security official Denis McDonough, in which he talked about how Obama "experienced Islam on three continents" and grew up in Indonesia with a Muslim father, and asked: "Islam or Isn't He?"
- Savage: Obama is "an unknown stealth candidate" who "in fact, was a Muslim." Michael Savage falsely asserted that Obama was a Muslim and attended a madrassa, saying: "Look who we inherited in this country, from Dwight D. Eisenhower to Barack Hussein Obama, in one generation. A war hero to -- a war hero who commanded the Allied operations against Nazi Germany was running for the presidency then. Now we have an unknown stealth candidate who went to a madrassas in Indonesia and, in fact, was a Muslim."
- KSFO's Rodgers: Obama "admits in one of his own books" that he would "stand with the Muslims" against "the Western world." Repeating a false allegation from a chain email, Lee Rodgers falsely claimed Obama "admits in one of his own books" that "in case of a confrontation between the Western world and the Islamic world, he will stand with the Muslims." In fact, what Obama wrote in his 2006 book, The Audacity of Hope, according to FactCheck.org, "is that he would stand with American immigrants from Pakistan or Arab countries should they be faced with something like the forced detention of Japanese-American families in World War II."
- Right wing run with dubious claim that Obama admitted "I am a Muslim." Conservatives pushed an unsubstantiated claim that Obama admitted to Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit that he is a Muslim, with G. Gordon Liddy stating that it comes under the heading "suspicions confirmed." Right-wing commentator Pamela Geller went even further and put the words "I am a Muslim" in quotation marks and attributed the statement to Obama in the title of a blog post hyping the rumor.
- Conservative radio hosts seize on Obama comment to revive false rumors about his faith. During the 2008 campaign, numerous conservative talk-radio hosts selectively highlighted Obama's assertion, which he immediately clarified, that "John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith" to revive rumors that he is a Muslim, not a Christian. For example, Chris Baker claimed that Obama's comment was "obviously a Freudian slip" and stated, "He confessed. It's over." Savage described Obama as a "Muslim stealth candidate" and stated: "I have nothing against moderate Muslims. ... The question is, why is he covering up his Muslim faith?"
Right-wing rhetoric: Obama is a socialist
Limbaugh: "The facts are facts. The president is a socialist." On the March 24 broadcast of his radio show, Rush Limbaugh addressed the Harris poll, which he noted was flawed, saying: "'Antichrist' and 'Muslim' -- I don't know where they're getting that, because that's not a part of the program. I haven't really made that one of our topics here. ... Now, as far as this Hitler business, one of the first things that the National Socialist Party did was try to nationalize health care." He concluded, "I mean, the facts are facts. The president is a socialist. The number ought to be much higher than 67 percent." [Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show, 3/24/10]
Limbaugh: "We are fighting a fascist, social -- whatever you call it -- takeover and remaking of the United States." In September 2009, Limbaugh said: "The Republican Party's got problems -- do not misunderstand me -- but nothing posed by the Republican Party is a threatening as what Obama is doing," adding that "[w]e are fighting a fascist, social -- whatever you call it -- takeover and remaking of the United States." He then suggested that Obama wants "to tear up the Constitution and rewrite it," "take over the mortgage business," "put the federal government in charge of every dollar the American people have access to." [The Rush Limbaugh Show, 9/17/09]
Morris: Obama is "going to adopt the entire socialist program by essentially circumventing the Constitution." On March 19, talking about President Obama's policies, Fox News contributor Dick Morris, who has repeatedly referred to Obama as a "socialist," stated: "I think he'll pass amnesty for illegal immigrants with it [reconciliation]; he'll pass cap and trade; he'll pass financial regulation; he'll pass the public option -- between the House doing the 'deem to have passed' and the Senate doing reconciliation, he's got his own little Constitution going here." He later added that Obama "is going to adopt the entire socialist program by essentially circumventing the Constitution." [Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor; 3/19/10]
Beck: Obama "is so clearly" a socialist. Talking about an interview Obama had with The New York Times, during which Obama was asked, "Are you a socialist as some people have suggested?" Fox News host Neil Cavuto said Beck "started" the trend of questioning whether Obama is a socialist because Beck was "calling him socialist on your show." Beck replied that Obama "is so clearly" a socialist, adding that "he has surrounded himself with Marxists his whole life" and that "this is who he is." [Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto, 3/9/09]
Hannity: Obama admin is pushing "the single biggest power grab and move towards socialism in the history of the country." On his Fox News show, Sean Hannity stated: "In the last two days, we know this administration has pushed the idea of the single biggest power grab and move towards socialism in the history of the country." The Wall Street Journal's Stephen Hayes and former Fox Business executive Alexis Glick both agreed, with Hayes saying, "That's right" and Glick replying, "Yeah." [Fox News' Hannity, 3/24/09]
Dobbs: "[S]ocialism has arrived in the first three months of this year." Citing an "amazing stat," which he said demonstrated that "when we talk about socialism, we're not just a-woofing, as the saying goes," Lou Dobbs said on his radio show, "For the first time in the history of the United States, the federal government has supplanted sales, property, and income taxes at the state level as the biggest source of money for state and local governments." He later added: "[S]o socialism has arrived in the first three months of this year, folks, and it is -- well, it is what it is, and it's not going to change, I'm afraid, for a little while." [United Stations Radio Networks' The Lou Dobbs Show, 5/5/09]

















To Hate "The Other", Besides if you're not of her Religion you're going to Hell.
Gretchen Carlson, She has such Strong Family Values, that is for those that look like Her.
But if your skin is Brown Or Black, to Ms. Carlson you're just a Dog, less than that a Cur.
Speak truth to power.
Mr. News
And, how funny is it to see THREE Right Wing, Conservative, Republicans discuss this against ONE (FoxNews' Paid-Go-to-Victim) Liberal Democrat. Was this really fair and balance, LOL. Oh wait, FoxNews GAVE $1 Million to the Republican Party says it ALL - LOL.
Of course they advance a right wing story line (Republicans take over in November) while insisting they have nothing to do with advancing right wing story lines.
The rightwing in general has in issue with factual information, since it is damaging to the narrative they try to push!
Just look at a report on snopes.com where they note that "Information is useless to those determined not to read it" for a prime example.
When reporters interview us about our work, they often ask us to comment on the notion that we're engaged in a great public service, making the world a better place by "striking a blow for the truth" and stamping out rumor and misinformation by replacing them with facts. Those reporters usually seem to be taken aback or disappointed when I tell them that I don't really believe our site makes much of a difference in the greater scheme of things; that the responses we get tend to indicate a good many people are determined to believe whatever they want to believe, and no collection of contradictory factual information, no matter how large or authoritative or impressive it might be, is ever going to dissuade them from their beliefs.
Snopes debunked a lie about Obama and Kagan conspiring to limit questions about Obama's birth certificate issues, and yet they continued to receive critical and insulting emails from people who failed to realize that snopes had actually thoroughly destroyed the WND position, even after WND removed the story from their site because WND realized that it was bogus!
Snopes went to the extra effort to inform ALL the people who sent them emails how they were wrong and why. As of this point, they've received NO apologies for the false charges being made by rightwingers.
One alarming trend is that several Republican candidates running for national office have decided that they need not answer to the non-FOX press. The implications of this are far reaching and deadly for our Republic. If these people are successful, press avoidance will become the Republican template for future elections.
The Press was intended by the Founding Fathers to perform the vital task of keeping the populace informed; that's why they gave it special protection in the First Amendment.
The Republicans, through FOX and Hate Radio, have turned the Free Press into a running joke.
It isn't just Republicans who run from tough, unfriendly interviews or venues - they all do it.
However, I don't recall seeing candidates for the U.S. Senate running away from reporters. Maybe you can cite some examples of Democrats doing this, or even Republicans doing it four years ago?
And Alvin Greene doesn't count. He's a f***ing joke.
Fox is a given they will not do it to Republicans, but if they only sit for their cushy interviews and puff pieces then I expect their Democratic opponents to make that an issue and call them on it. They can't just sit back and let it happen, if they do they have nobody to blame but themselves.
Perhaps the right is just doing this for the good of the country. Their "ideas" aren't very palatable for most of us, but for our own good, the gutting of government and the establishment of a corporate-controlled local governing system, kinda like the company-run towns in mining areas, I guess, is guaranteed to fix what ails us. Social conservatives will make sure the company-church is at full capacity as well, have no fear.
The companions of Liars for Jesus are Liars for Country!
It was just great to see someone on Cable TV point this out with FACTS too. Thanks Rachel, LOL.
The ONLY people that will vote for Gov. Brewer who only signed a sweet deal to help her Republican Buddies who are waiting to build the so-called Detention Centers from the round-up of Illegal Immigrants so they can house and charge the Federal Gov't for housing just to make millions and millions of dollars are the Republicans - 40% (38% white and 2% others). The Democrat Candidate for Governor - 60% (52% white, 98% others). Seeing headless bodies is like seeing Russia from your house, would you say? Hmm, stop listening to FoxNews and Republican Pollsters, LOL.
I like your attempt at a complete sentence but don't quite understand due to missing articles etc.
I don't listen to Fox, don't like Palin, and am merely stating the fact that she is going to win handily in Arizona. If you don't believe that, then I suppose you think Dems will still control Congress on Nov. 3. We Independents swing elections.
Not ALL Arizonians are "fooled" by Republican Gov. Brewer's sweet 'racist' Arizona State Law that will make her Republican Buddies millions and millions and millions of dollars off of the Federal Gov't. Just look beyond their 'racist' craziness to see the sweet scams of it ALL. DEMOCRATS will SWEEP in ALL 2010 Elections, LOL.
Yeah, just because she is governor only because Napolitano resigned to be head of Homeland Security doesn't mean she won't be elected again, uh... for the first time.
She probably is best served to keep quite and ride the wave until election night. Then, if she is elected, all of AZ can rejoice in how well she governs the state.
Sock Puppet...
And then there's this embarrasing moment for Arizona governor Jan Brewer. She NEVER answered the questions put forth during the debate and afterwards. Make sure to view both videos. Talk about alarming trends. More of this behavior needs to be called out. She's also be called out on pulling her ads from a certain Arizona media station due to an investigator's reports. Wow! People certainly DO NEED to be informed!
The thing that amazes me is that the same FOXtards who routinely vilify Nancy Pelosi for everything, including her appearance, think this woman is just wonderful...
Go figure.
This Wingnut world we live in? Hmm, didn't you all say that starting in Jan 2009 we had transformed into an era in which Democrats would control the government possibly 'for generations'? How did you all squander that one? (no pun intended)
The ABOVE statement from the article is exactly why MMfA, Olbermann & Maddow, etal and other MSM (Newsweek, etc.) are so vitally important. Many people I know watch FOX News in order to keep abreast of the misinformation they are spoon-feeding a good part of the masses AND reading/watching other MSM forms that work to debunk the misinformation and/or fact check information and then make informed decisions rather than blindly follow FOX News information.
Good on Newsweek. Now if only more of the MSM would get on board.
Recently Ms. Huffington blogged that Sarah Palin should be taken seriously, she has outsmarted us all. She (Palin) has her finger on the true pulse of the American people. How scary is that. Perhaps Ms. Huffington is trying to get right wingers to buy her new book but doing so at the expense of her principals is disappointing a best. We just can't afford to lose any more voices of truth. Huffington Post became a success because progressives finally had a place to read, share and write about ideas and the truth. Now it claims it is non partisan and we are treated to the likes of Frank Luntz and Eric Kantor. Lord knows there just aren't enough news outlets for them to spread their word. The troll traffic is so heavy it's impossible to read a coherent thread. To disagree with Obama's policies is one thing, to put Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin on pedistals is quite another.
Okay, here's what ticks me off about that whole line of criticism - he DOES go to church - he goes to the Evergreen Chapel at Camp David, you know, the exact same place that GW Bush went.
And it is the only responsible choice a president can make. Anywhere else he could choose would cost the taxpayers more in security and disrupt the services at the chosen church.
So when huge GOP gains come to pass in November, it will not have been because of stagflation, 17% un- and underemployment, failed stimulus bills, a stalled housing market, bailouts, cash for clunkers, healthcare boondoggle. It will not have been because of the DOJ going after Arizona in the face of a majority of voters sympathizing with its' law. No, it will have been due to FoxNews and the belief of a small minority of Americans that we're now a socialist nation with a President who is a Muslim. Keep burying your little liberal heads in the sand...
And please, enough with the Independent crap. Give you a nice perch for fence sitting doesn't it. Independents are phony.
You distort posters points about McSame/Palin which was very clear to continue Bush's policies that drove us in the ditch would have put this country and the world into a deep depression. Of course many as myself are experiencing economic hardships. Those hardships were caused by conservative policies(dem and republican)which could be summarized as trickle down. We saw the worst job growth and GDP under Bush and he left us in a deep recession. You may draw comfort that those who advocated and allowed his rape of our economy might gain control again but I think it insanity to keep doing the samething expecting different results.
You cheerlead for this take back of the house and possibly the senate but can you tell me what policies those you support have that will improve the situation?
keynsian econ 101: the gov't is the employer and lender of last resort. dr. krugman pointed out, back in feb. 09, that the proposed stimulus should be twice the proposed amount, with the bulk of it going directly into consumer's pockets.
our's is a demand economy. if consumers aren't consuming, sellers aren't selling, and aren't employing. it's kind of a vicious cycle. worrying about the deficit should be the last thing on the government's mind right now, getting people back to work should be priority #1.
if you insist on making a fool of yourself in public, try to at least have half a clue what you're talking about.
You can always count on a cowardly liberal to pick on a guy's wife. Pathetic wimps.
So, are you denying that the right believes that those on extended unemployment are slackers? Do you need me to find the quotes for you?? Are you denying that they believe that teachers are socialists? Pathetic alright.
Another typical tactic from the Left. Claim what they say was a "joke" once they are caught with their childish insults. As I said, pathetic.
The bolded part is the explanation of the joke. Reminds me much of a poster here that complained about political correctness shutting people up and when as a retaliation posters started using over the top stereotypes he suddenly started complaining about them.
The same brain that can accept Blimpy Limbaugh promoting vague birther/Muslim themes, and taking it a step further, to Imam Obama or connecting the president to terrorists, they call that "sarcasm". But the obvious sarcasm of POW's post is seen as an insult. Incredible.
The reason this was especially funny to me is that it came from onementalgiant. I asked him recently if his screen name was meant to be taken literally, or as a joke. He finally answered me, saying it was both tongue-in-cheek and serious.
There's something missing from the wingnut brain.
Glen Beck: You have the 99ers. Have you heard of the 99ers? Oh, there they are. The Democratic Socialists of America. The 99ers. These people, some of which, frankly, I bet you'd be ashamed to call them Americans.
They think that 99 weeks on employment benefits just aren't enough. Last week they went down to Wall Street and they protested. 99er Connie Kaplan asked, "Are you going to tell us, President Obama and Congress, that our lives are not worth saving?"
Connie, here's an idea, I'll save your life. Don't spend your remaining money on travel to get to a protest, go out and get a job. You may not love the job. Work at McDonald's. Work at two jobs. There's been plenty of times in my life where I've done jobs that I've hated, but I had no choice.
Two years is plenty of time to have lived off your neighbor's wallet.
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Pennsylvanian Republican Attorney General Tom Corbett, who is running for governor, said last week that unemployed people are purposely avoiding jobs so they can continue collecting benefits from the government: "The jobs are there. But if we keep extending unemployment, people are going to sit there and - I've literally had construction companies tell me, 'I can't get people to come back to work until...they say, I'll come back to work when unemployment runs out.'"
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South Carolina Republican Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer compared the unemployed to stray animals back in January, saying that unemployment insurance is a lot like helping out strays. One is "facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply," he said. "They will reproduce, especially ones that don't think too much further than that. And so what you've got to do is you've got to curtail that type of behavior. They don't know any better." Though he later backtracked, saying this probably "wasn't the best metaphor," he has since said that "flat-out lazy" people "would rather sit home and do nothing than do these jobs."
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Rand Paul, the Republican nominee for senator of Kentucky, said in June that the unemployed need to stop being so picky when it comes to getting a job: "As bad as it sounds, ultimately we do have to sometimes accept a wage that's less than we had at our previous job in order to get back to work and allow the economy to get started again. Nobody likes that, but it may be one of the tough love things that has to happen."
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In June, Nevada Republican Senate nominee Sharron Angle said that "what has happened is the system of entitlement has caused us to have a spoilage with our ability to go out and get a job." She added: "They keep extending these unemployment benefits to the point where people are afraid to go out and get a job because the job doesn't pay as much as the unemployment benefit does."
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Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah demanded drug tests for those receiving unemployment benefits, "We should not be giving cash to people who basically are just going to blow it on drugs."
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Republican Ben Stein, writing at American Spectator: The people who have been laid off and cannot find work are generally people with poor work habits and poor personalities. I say 'generally' because there are exceptions. But in general, as I survey the ranks of those who are unemployed, I see people who have overbearing and unpleasant personalities and/or who do not know how to do a day's work. They are people who create either little utility or negative utility on the job.
princeofwheels posted: "I guess your wife is a slacker who is happy to collect unemployment."
To which the lefties now claim to have been a 'joke' so your confusion is understandable.
Good grief! I did NOT miss "the joke", but once again YOU did!
1. Spacepedestrain says his wife, a teacher, has been unemployed for 16 months, collecting (I assume) unemployment benefits.
2. POW makes a sarcastic remark, I guess your wife is a slacker who is happy to collect unemployment. ConLogic makes her a Socialist which makes you a closet-socialist by collecting monies from the government., similar to what Republicans/conservative/right-wing loonies have been making ABOUT those who are unemployed.
3. YOU, being a brilliant rocket scientist, completely ignore POW's "ConLogic" part of his remarks and accuse liberal of "picking on a guys wife".
4. So I post SOME of the insensitive, contemptible remarks Republican/conservative/right-wing loonies have made ABOUT the unemployed.
5. And YOU once again, being the brilliant rocket scientist that you are completely missed the point!
Oh, and calling you a rocket scientist? THAT was sarcasm.
It should also be noted that it was the neo-liberal economic policies dating from the Thatcher/Reagan era that laid the groundwork for the Global Financial Crisis. George W. Bush merely continued their good(?) work, with the added bonus of a war of choice on two fronts financed by borrowings.
Gee, thanks!
As to the GFC and neo-liberal economic policies: Neo-liberalism is based, very much on a misunderstanding of Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations" (to give it its short title). It is characterised by a manic obsession with privatisation and deregulation - a toxic mix from the point of view of the public interest.
This doctrinaire laissez faire approach (coupled with a penchant for old fashioned pork-barrelling) laid the groundwork for the GFC. The unfinanced war on two fronts was the straw that broke the back of the camel that the economy had become.
Poor economic management coupled with unchecked greed - the biggest threat to any nation's economy.
Get ready for the next round of it.
I agree that we are not out of the woods yet, and, even on the other side of the world we are apprehensive as to what happens in the U.S. congressional elections. If the Troglodyte Right gain control it will be all hands into the biscuit tin as we slide into the second dip.
Whilst the Nostalgic Right might bemoan the perceived loss of U.S. prestige, power and influence, they should be comforted that their boneheaded lack of understanding of economics can still bring the rest of the developed world to its knees!
while this is bad, what's worse is the MSM's complete failure to do it's job, report actual facts. instead, the "village idiots" prefer not to rock the boat, so they will get invited to next lovely soiree, featuring really big shrimp.
that's the story you should be reporting on.