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Baseless right-wing accusations of voter fraud? Must mean an election is near

October 27, 2010 3:04 pm ET — 81 Comments

In the final days before the midterm elections, following a very familiar pattern, conservative media have yet again turned to hyping baseless and misleading claims of voter fraud.

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Right-wing media baselessly claim SEIU rigged machines to cast votes for Reid

Conservative media hype claims of voter fraud in Nevada to baselessly suggest SEIU is stealing votes for Reid. Several conservative media figures, including the co-hosts of Fox & Friends, The Washington Examiner, the Fox Nation, HotAir, Jim Hoft, and Michelle Malkin all promoted a Fox5 Las Vegas story highlighting claims from early voters that when they went to vote, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's name had already been checked on the electronic ballot. They cited this story to baselessly suggest that because the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) represents the technicians to repair the voting machines, SEIU is engaged in a conspiracy to fraudulently cast votes for Reid.

However, Fox5 Las Vegas also reported Registrar of Voters Larry Lomax called claims of fraud "patently false." Fox5 also reported that although "some voters complained that Sen. Harry Reid's name had been pre-selected" in Clark County voting locations, "election officials insisted on Tuesday that electronic voting machines were not malfunctioning." The article quoted Registrar of Voters Larry Lomax as saying "those claims were 'patently false' " and "at no time did any of those voters report the incident to staff at their polling location." From the article:

Registrar of Voters Larry Lomax said those claims were "patently false" and said at no time did any of those voters report the incident to staff at their polling location.

"In fact, although over 160,000 people have voted early in Clark County, those allegations that have been made have gone directly to the media as opposed to election board officers," he said.

Lomax advised voters to be aware that touch-screens on the screens are sensitive. For that reason, a person may not want to have their fingers linger too long on the screen after they make a selection at any time.

"Especially in a community with elderly citizens (they have) difficulty in (casting their) ballot," Lomax said. "Team leaders said there were complaints (and the) race filled in."

Lomax previously called for an investigation into allegations that ACORN engaged in voter fraud. In 2009, The New York Times reported that Lomax called for an investigation into allegations that ACORN had engaged in voter registration fraud, noting that Nevada's Secretary of State "investigated Acorn at the behest of the Clark County registrar of voters, Larry Lomax, who noted a high number of forms turned in featuring the names of famous football players and cartoon characters."

Right-wing media hype Angle's fabricated claim that Reid is stealing election with bribes of free food

Angle campaign attorney: Reid "intends to steal this election" by offering free food in exchange for votes. The Las Vegas Sun reported that Nevada GOP senatorial candidate Sharron Angle's campaign attorney, Cleta Mitchell, wrote a fundraising letter to supporters in which she asserted that "Harry Reid intends to steal this election if he can't win it outright" and that "Harry Reid has been offering free food" at "voter turnout events." Mitchell went on to say: "What Harry Reid is doing is clearly illegal. Nevada law (NRS 293.700) provides that, 'A person who bribes, offers to bribe, or use and other corrupt means, directly or indirectly, to influence any elector in giving his or her vote or to deter the elector from giving it is guilty of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.' "

Conservative media picked up and ran with the Angle campaign claim. Several conservative media figures advanced Mitchell's claim. For example, Sweetness & Light blogger Steve Gilbert linked to the Sun article and added: "If Democrats didn't buy their votes, you have to wonder if they would win any elections anywhere." Similarly, the Fox Nation linked to the Sun article with the headline, "Reid 'Intends to steal this election.' "

NV Secretary of State: Angle's campaign "fails to cite any evidence of 'vote buying' "; offering voters free food regardless of who they voted for does not violate election law. In a statement responding to the Angle campaign's allegations, Nevada's Secretary of State Ross Miller wrote that the campaign "fails to cite any evidence of 'vote buying.' " Miller added that activities such as offering free food to voters "irrespective of how and for whom they voted" does not violate state law so long as "it is not connected to any specific candidate and does not compromise the will of the elector." Miller also wrote that actions which "promote the act of voting," such as offering food to voters, "support the democratic process." Additionally, a spokeswoman for the Secretary of State reportedly noted that despite Mitchell's allegations, the office "has not received a single report of voter fraud from someone who experienced it personally."

Right-wing media distort Arizona court ruling to suggest it will influence election

Scarborough falsely claimed "a judge ... overturned an Arizona law that would actually require people to have a photo ID to vote." From the October 27 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

JOE SCARBOROUGH (co-host): By the way, I just -- a judge, I understand, overturned an Arizona law that would actually require people to have a photo ID to vote. I mean, seriously, how low does the bar have to go? Seriously? That is such a joke.

HAROLD FORD JR. (former Democratic congressman): We do have a history in the country where people were denied the right to vote because they had [inaudible] --

SCARBOROUGH: Well, yeah, sure we do. So you let -- so you let people steal votes now? A photo ID, Harold, a photo ID.

FORD: Right, but you don't actually have to have one. If you show up and you have proof of ID and you sign something saying it's yourself -- these are just federal rules that we have, so, I don't disagree with you, having someone there at the polling booth or polling place -- should not intimidate voters, but to suggest that we don't have an ugly -- which I know you know -- and pernicious history in this country of people, particularly blacks and minorities and even women --

SCARBOROUGH: Well, but why are you bringing that up when all I want to do is make sure that whoever goes and votes is who they say they are, and they have a photo ID. What is so wrong with that?

In fact, a three-judge panel overturned an AZ state law that required proof of U.S. citizenship to register to vote and upheld the portion of the law requiring voters show ID. As reported by Reuters and The Associated Press, the panel of the 9th Circuit of the U.S. Court of Appeals found that a portion of the Arizona law, which required residents to provide proof of citizenship in order to register to vote, is inconsistent with the National Voter Registration Act, which, according to the AP, "allows voters to fill out a mail-in voter registration card and swear they are citizens under penalty of perjury, but doesn't require them to show proof as Arizona's law does." In addition, as the AP reported, "The ruling left in place a requirement that voters provide proof of identity when casting ballots."

Conservative bloggers linked court ruling to other examples of alleged voter fraud, suggest ruling will affect 2010 elections. In an October 27 post on her blog updating a previous "voter fraud round-up," Malkin wrote: "[T]he 9th Circuit Court of Appeals just undermined Arizona's citizenship proof rules for voting -- sabotaging efforts to ensure that only legal U.S. citizens vote in U.S. elections." An October 27 post on RedState on its "recap" of "some of the 'coincidences' leading up to next week's mid-term elections" includes the Arizona ruling. In fact, the ruling will not take effect until the next election. According to Reuters, "The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' invalidation of requirements for proof of citizenship comes too late for any prospective new voters who were barred from registering before the deadline for the November 2 U.S. mid-term elections."

North Carolina voting machine problems exaggerated by conservative bloggers

Right-wing blogs promoted reports of irregularities with voting machines in North Carolina. An October 23 article in the New Bern (NC) Sun Journal reported that a Craven County voter "pushed the button to vote Republican in all races, but the voting machine screen displayed a ballot with all Democrats checked." An October 25 report from local station WITN noted that the State Board of Elections said at the time that "only 2 counties have reported early voting problems with the touch-screen Ivotronic machines." On October 26 and 27, right-wing blogs Gateway Pundit, the Jawa Report, Ace of Spades, and BigGovernment all included links to the reports of irregularities with voting machines in North Carolina. Indeed, BigGovernment highlighted several accusations of voter fraud:

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But, according to the county's Board of Elections chairman, "in each case the voter was able to cast his or her ballot as desired." According to the Sun Journal article, M. Ray Wood, Craven County Board of Elections chairman, "issued a written statement saying that the elections board is aware of isolated issues and that in each case the voter was able to cast his or her ballot as desired." WITN noted that in the two counties where problems were reported, the deputy director of the state Board of Elections said that "the machines were recalibrated when voters reported the problem, and everyone was able to cast votes of their choice."

Like clockwork, conservatives cry voter fraud in advance of elections

Conservative media have repeatedly issued baseless claims of voter fraud in previous elections As Media Matters has noted, conservative media have consistently made baseless claims of voter fraud during the past six years.

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    • Author by RedandWhite Guerilla (October 27, 2010 3:09 pm ET)
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      Hooray 4 fake voter fraud!

      This an interesting development though. If the Republicans had the landslide they thought they had, do you think they would try tactics like this. Since accusations like this are unlikely to work, this may be a good sign that the Democratic Party is doing better than expected.
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      • Author by Spooky Dude (October 28, 2010 1:24 pm ET)
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        OMG! The Dems are trying to make their base think they are doing better so they are keeping polls close. That way when they cheat without getting caught, they can claim they woke their base up...... When you have polls of NY mosque and other general polling about the economy and 60 - 70% of people do not like, etc. Majority of Americans work hard and have families. We do not draft minions to do our dirty work like your Daddy Soros does.
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      • Author by blamegame (October 28, 2010 11:27 pm ET)
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        very odd the left blaming the right for making stuff up. While both sides play that game very well, it is the left that have a grand history of voter fraud that we are all supposed to not see. How many dead people and felons have voted? And I am sure not one illegal will vote...and slow down on dems doing better than expected lol...In 2 years you have made your left side a joke...remember it took bush 8 years to do that lol..see you did do something better than the last admin besides just spend more...
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      • Author by mari2jj (October 30, 2010 12:12 am ET)
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        Further I am a Mormon and do not appreciate Fox calling a fellow LDS member a liar. Fox will no longer ever get a moment of my time since they are so hate filled that they sling these stupid statements at a life long Mormon. It is amazingly obnoxious, bigoted and hate filled. I think there will be a huge Mormon backlash about this hate message by Fox News.
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    • Author by rikntx (October 27, 2010 3:21 pm ET)
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      Okay now it's strange and a possible sign of some sort of fraud when touch screens are fouling up but when it happened previously it was okay? Why?
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      • Author by thaneb (October 27, 2010 3:40 pm ET)
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        IMO, the only reason there seems to be fraud is in the reporting. As I've noted previously, Fox is only reporting Reid pre-selection whereas other outlets are also reporting Angle pre-selection. These touch screens are notorious (since 2008) for being flaky. Their continued use is unfortunate and has led to this faux issue through selective reporting.
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    • Author by Andy Kreiss (October 27, 2010 3:32 pm ET)
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      From what I've heard from callers to wingnut radio, and read from right wing forum posters, the GOP/Fox have been very successful at inverting reality on this issue.

      Most credible allegations of election fraud seem to be against Republicans, but the "common wisdom" among wingnuts is that it's the Dems who have the record of fraud.

      I recall before the '08 elections, Hugh Hewitt was shilling a book called something like " If it's not close, they can't cheat".

      I never heard him mention any evidence that the dems were rigging elections, but it didn't seem to matter to his fans.
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      • Author by onementalgiant (October 27, 2010 3:39 pm ET)
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        AK: "Most credible allegations of election fraud seem to be against Republicans,.........."

        May I please have some VALID proof of this AK? Thank You. omg
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        • Author by southerngal (October 27, 2010 4:00 pm ET)
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          I have no interest in voter fraud allegations unless they are legally prosecuted and convicted. Otherwise they are nothing but sore losers bellyaching about losing elections, or about to lose election.
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (October 27, 2010 4:05 pm ET)
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            I agree, most people who know about it say that there is no real significant problem with actual election fraud. I was only saying that, despite the idea of Democratic fraud being accepted on faith by the right wing media, there seems to be more evidence of it in the GOP.
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          • Author by Dharmasatya (October 27, 2010 5:03 pm ET)
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            It does appear that most of the incidents are taking place during the registration portion of the voting process, and are caught and weeded out long before election day.

            It seems to me that this indicates that the elections are quite unlikely to be affected by fraudulent or erroneous registration on a massive scale. It's the appalling failures in the technologies used to record and count votes which would be more likely to skew an election.
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            • Author by jediknight65 (October 27, 2010 5:31 pm ET)
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              try telling that to the cons scared of losing. otherwise mark kirk wouldn't feel the need to have poll watchers in districts that would vote against him
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          • Author by mari2jj (October 28, 2010 5:10 am ET)
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            Yes, my experience as an election judge is that the guy who is losing never accepts thet they are not the most popular person. It seems if they win the next time on the same voting machines, all of a sudden, they just know the illegal behavior was stopped that year. Funny how that always works.
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          • Author by onementalgiant (October 28, 2010 8:29 am ET)
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            "I have no interest in voter fraud allegations unless they are legally prosecuted and convicted."

            Does this include our military fighting and dying for us overseas not getting their ballets in time to vote (e.g.: N.Y. this year and Nationwide 2000)? Why wouldn't you want to make sure they get the chance to participate in our elections BEFORE it's too late for their vote to count?
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (October 27, 2010 4:03 pm ET)
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          Well, there were the '04 problems in Ohio, involving Mr. Blackwell, some recent shenanigans by a Snowbilly protege', more charges of voter caging in '08, there was the intervention of the SC in Bush v. Gore.

          That should get you started, but you'll have to do some research on your own.

          Have you been living in a cave for the past few decades?

          BTW, this will be about the third time I've asked, but have you come up with any examples of the "several times you've proved me wrong"? Or will you pretend you don't see this?
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          • Author by Kid Funkadelic (October 27, 2010 4:18 pm ET)
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            Blackwell couldn't be prosecuted for fraud because he had a law put on the book that he couldn't be prosecuted. Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner tried but couldn't get him. He even gave his former staff golden parachutes.
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          • Author by bludog1 (October 27, 2010 4:59 pm ET)
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            the bad part of it is that each side has enough skeletons and knows where the others skeletons are, to trot out seeming "for instances" all day long. See my note above in response to RightOn.
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          • Author by onementalgiant (October 28, 2010 8:45 am ET)
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            "BTW, this will be about the third time I've asked, but have you come up with any examples of the "several times you've proved me wrong"? Or will you pretend you don't see this?"

            Won't "pretend" AK. But I will state this is the first time I have seen your request. In fact, I'll use this as my first example of you being wrong! Stay tuned on the rest. Don't have time now because I gotta go outta town for a few days. Don't worry about my safety though. My oldest grandson is going with me to help with the driving.

            And thanks for the "sources" regarding supposed Republican voter fraud. Of course what you cite is questionable and trivial compared to what the Left does - and everyone knows this. To argue this is truely laughable.
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            • Author by JoeSixpack (October 28, 2010 10:37 am ET)
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              And thanks for the "sources" regarding supposed Republican voter fraud. Of course what you cite is questionable and trivial compared to what the Left does - and everyone knows this. To argue this is truely laughable.


              Wow, So you think your "everyone knows this!" outweighs AK's actual evidence? You asked for evidence, got it, and then dismissed it without even attempting to counter it with anything of substance. Yeah, you're a mental giant alright.
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (October 28, 2010 1:00 pm ET)
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                Yeah, Joe, that was pretty impressive. 1mg tossed in an off-handed claim about all the times he's "proved me wrong" here a while ago, and he's been ignoring all requests to give any examples of this.

                I think he was better off just pretending he didn't see them.
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            • Author by Andy Kreiss (October 28, 2010 12:58 pm ET)
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              In fact, I'll use this as my first example of you being wrong!


              OK, I get it now. You "proving me wrong" involves ignoring everything I give you, and claiming that "everyone knows" stuff that you don't even specify. Good night, trolly.
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            • Author by bilbo_dies (October 29, 2010 7:18 pm ET)
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              hey, have that grandchild show you how to do a google search for "voter fraud" and then read one like this and tell me what you think.

              Of course, based on earlier comments I will assume that you have already made up your mind and that any data that does not support your beliefs will be discounted as false, no matter who did all the support work.
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              • Author by onementalgiant (October 30, 2010 10:08 am ET)
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                Ha Ha Ha! You liberals are tooooo funny.

                Google "Democrat Voter Fraud" for hundreds of examples of Democrat Voter Fraud.

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        • Author by bludog1 (October 27, 2010 4:58 pm ET)
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          I am with you. When the warrants are out and court has concluded its review, then we can say whether or not these and all other allegations along these lines are credible or not. No one, not even MMfA, is in a position to say whether what "is surfacing" if it is surfacing, is based in fact or baseless (seemingly one of MMfA's favorite adjectives).
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          • Author by raddave43 (October 27, 2010 9:36 pm ET)
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            baseless, as in the allegations are being made, but no evidence isn't being provided so support that allegation. Therefore MMFA's "baseless" is accurate.
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            • Author by bludog1 (October 28, 2010 9:48 am ET)
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              As I said, we shall see.
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              • Author by DellDolly (October 28, 2010 11:50 am ET)
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                Actually, no, if THINGS change, then THINGS CHANGE.

                Right now, they are BASELESS allegations.

                And if evidence becomes available, it won't change the fact that when the allegations were first made, THEY WERE BASELESS ALLEGATIONS.
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                • Author by bludog1 (October 28, 2010 1:29 pm ET)
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                  The notion of calling them baseless without completing the investigation, underscores prejudice. As I said, we shall see how baseless they ultimately turn out to be.
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                  • Author by CoolSlaw (October 29, 2010 6:45 pm ET)
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                    If you are any indication, then that explains as to why so many right wingers believe so much of the misinformation put forth by Fox News and other right wing media outlets.

                    Seems pretty clear in all these cases that what Fox, big government, et all are doing is taking voting machine irregularities, ignoring the glitches in favor of GOP or Tea party candidates, and claiming the glitches in favor of Democrats are proof of conspiracy and foul play. Even in the cases where it appears there are glitches that favor or harm both candidates randomly or equally, they report it as a case of voter fraud perpetrated by democrats against the GOP or tea party candidates. That's giving their audience only half the story.

                    I'm sorry, but cherry picking and disregarding relevant information does not constitute anything more then speculation.

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                    • Author by bludog1 (October 30, 2010 9:54 am ET)
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                      "Seems pretty clear..." is not good enough. That is why investigation is needed before determining what basis, if any,for action of some kind.
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    • Author by thaneb (October 27, 2010 3:33 pm ET)
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      What Fox5 LV didn't report that other outlets did was that the Sequoia Edge touch screens sometimes have Angle "pre-selected." Quelle surprise.
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    • Author by peebs755 (October 27, 2010 3:54 pm ET)
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      Voter fraud allegations? Thank goodness, I can finally set my clocks.
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    • Author by onementalgiant (October 27, 2010 3:56 pm ET)
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      I haven't seen anything on MMFA about Joy Berhars rant calling Angle a bi-ch a couple times and wishing she'd go to hell on The View yesterday. I wonder why?
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (October 27, 2010 4:06 pm ET)
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        Hint:Did it have anything to do with conservative misinformation?
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      • Author by boulderhippy (October 27, 2010 4:11 pm ET)
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        Why would a conservative want to stop Joy's potty mouth? Angle raised a lot of money out of that. The left will sit around and b**ch about what someone says, the right puts their money in to show they don't like that kind of garbage.

        Keep up the good work Joy.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (October 29, 2010 10:02 am ET)
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          Exactly. Keep the potty mouths spewing hate and vitriol. Angle nabbed $150k from just one B**** slap. That's money well spent on the way to hairbrain Harry's defeat.

          BTW...

          I notice not one mention on Obama on this forum for what seems like weeks? That disastrous appearance with Stewart didn't work out quite like you planned? I thought John was on your side? He made the Dude in Chief look feeble and stumped. Not good (for Barry) going into these historic mid-terms.

          One more little tidbit. Was watching the Chris Matthews show this weekend. All the lefties on the panel were lamenting how Barry "hasn't found his voice" yet and "the message isn't getting across". After almost two years, I think we hear Barry's voice loud and clear! The voters will send Barry a loud roar come Tuesday.
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          • Author by CoolSlaw (October 29, 2010 6:56 pm ET)
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            totally off topic but...

            OMG OMG OMG!!!

            A liberal said something unkind about a conservative! OMG OMG OMG! Where are the liberals CONDEMNING Joy Behar!!!! WHY DIDN"T SHE LOSE HER JOB OMG OMG OMG!!!!

            A little perspective please. If this is the worst example of a liberal saying something hateful you can find, and it is such a big deal to you, then first off, I think we libs are in pretty good shape. One or two hateful comments are not a good thing, but every now and then even the good guys slip up. Secondly, it's the pinnacle of raw hypocrisy to shrug off hundreds of hateful comments by conservative commentators every year, and then demand all kinds of apologies and condemnations of a liberal commentator making one or two statements that are par for the course from the right wing media daily.

            Tell you what, when you guys start condemning the routine hate filled comments from your media figures, I'll worry about the fake outrage generated by one comment by comedian Joy Behar.
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            • Author by onementalgiant (October 30, 2010 1:11 pm ET)
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              "A little perspective please. If this is the worst example of a liberal saying something hateful you can find, and it is such a big deal to you, then first off, I think we libs are in pretty good shape. One or two hateful comments are not a good thing, but every now and then even the good guys slip up. Secondly, it's the pinnacle of raw hypocrisy to shrug off hundreds of hateful comments by conservative commentators every year, and then demand all kinds of apologies and condemnations of a liberal commentator making one or two statements that are par for the course from the right wing media daily."

              Jeez, you people are thick. I posted an example of a leftist's pathetic obscene slam aginst a conservative. Where did I say it was the "worst"? The "worst" is probably Jerry Brown's staff stating Meg Whitman is a whore. Another recent one is some lefty posting trash about his dating of McDowell years ago - of course after getting paid for same. And while we're at it, can you provide a few examples of your asserted "conservative commentator's hateful comments". This should be easy since you say there are hundreds done every year.
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      • Author by Kid Funkadelic (October 27, 2010 4:12 pm ET)
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        Maybe because it wasn't yesterday, it was today and Joy was correct in calling her a bigot.
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        • Author by boulderhippy (October 27, 2010 4:18 pm ET)
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          And yet you are the one backing sexist behaviour.
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          • Author by RiffRabbit (October 27, 2010 4:24 pm ET)
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            Is a woman calling another woman a bitch or a bigot sexist?
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            • Author by boulderhippy (October 27, 2010 4:28 pm ET)
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              You backing it is sexist.
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              • Author by Imbecile (October 27, 2010 4:31 pm ET)
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                But he's backing a woman, right?

                Wouldn't it be sexist of him not to back up a woman?
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              • Author by RedandWhite Guerilla (October 27, 2010 4:53 pm ET)
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                How is one woman calling another woman a bigot sexist in any way? Just because Joy used foul language to place emotion in her point doesn't make supporting her sexist.
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                • Author by boulderhippy (October 27, 2010 4:56 pm ET)
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                  Supporting her point is.
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                  • Author by Dharmasatya (October 27, 2010 5:05 pm ET)
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                    I don't think the words you're using mean what you think they mean.

                    You're really reaching here, bh. Time to go have a lie down, I think. Come back tomorrow when you're not so busy trying and failing to find your posterior with both hands.
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                  • Author by RedandWhite Guerilla (October 27, 2010 5:11 pm ET)
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                    O rly? How. Prove it!!!
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          • Author by jediknight65 (October 27, 2010 4:24 pm ET)
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            and yet your defending the GUYS that stomped on the moveon.org's workers head.....oh wait forgot who i was talking to for a moment. if it happens to someone who is liberal then its perfectly ok to get stepped, stomped, beaten, shot and killed, stabbed or any other violent act committed against them.
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        • Author by okami (October 29, 2010 8:17 pm ET)
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          well. . .she IS a bigot. truth hurts.
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      • Author by wareagle (October 27, 2010 10:44 pm ET)
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        This is misinformation matters. Anything Joy Behar says is OK since she is a liberal.

        This site is out to smear conservatives, any way, any how.
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        • Author by DellDolly (October 28, 2010 11:51 am ET)
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          Someone can't be "smeared" with the truth, doofus.

          A "smear" is an untrue accusation!

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        • Author by bludog1 (October 28, 2010 5:35 pm ET)
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          wareagle: It is one of her (DD) favorite words! Along with liar! And troll! Beginning to suspect that she gets paid a bonus each time she inserts one of them in a response.
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (October 29, 2010 7:04 pm ET)
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          You conservatives need to stop being so thin skinned and stop playing victim here.

          I though you guys were supposed to be the tough "rugged individualists" but the fake outrage pouring out over some comments made by Joy Behar, that aren't half as bad as what Michael Savage says every night, is just plain weaksauce.

          Somebody call them a "WAH"mbulance, a public figure had her feelings her by a comedian!

          Although to be fair....and to continue this absurd off-topic distraction, I suppose you guys don't have to deal with an opposition media like you support, so you aren't used to being constantly attacked in the most dirty and despicable ways that you can get away with. We libs are generally a thoughtful and intelligent bunch, so I wouldn't worry too much about one comment.

          On the other hand, we libs EXPECT that kind of angry rhetoric from your side. We're used to it.
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    • Author by Idontwannabeaserf (October 27, 2010 4:13 pm ET)
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      Hey Conservatives. The SEIU has infiltrated Diebold!! We are going to steal ALL the elections.
      Not only that, but Millions of illegals and ex-cons have been registered by ACORN and are ready to vote (D) on demand. $100 Billion dollars of payouts have been made by the Socialist and Communist parties of the U.S., and Al-Qaeda too!!!

      BWAHaaaaaaHaaHaaHaa!!

      You haven't got a chance. Might as well just stay home.
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    • Author by johnbrown (October 27, 2010 4:23 pm ET)
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      This tells me the Republicans are scared and the voters are waking up.And by the way were Doocy and Carlson concerned when people weren't allowed to vote in Florida in 2000?Think not.
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    • Author by Chances R (October 27, 2010 4:44 pm ET)
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      For those who doubt election fraud by dems, find the FBI report
      containing ACORN confessions of voter fraud for the Democrat Party-
      their "employer."

      This fraud is not new; it's been going on since I was a dem 50 years ago. Do you really believe that Holder will investigate voter
      fraud by dems? Really?

      http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/10/acorn-employees-tell-fbi-of-deliberate-election-fraud-according-to-new-documents/#ixzz13bZ58pTG
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (October 28, 2010 1:11 pm ET)
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        Oh no, a Daily Caller item with a dishonest headline ( hint: Election Fraud vs. Registration fraud - this is very old stuff), and the main source for the DC is Judicial Watch.

        You really need to adjust your Bullsh!t detectors. If an item that begins "The radical activist group ACORN “works” for the Democratic Party and deliberately promotes election fraud.." doesn't stink to you, you've been in the stink too long.

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    • Author by wenfen (October 27, 2010 4:45 pm ET)
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      Mika and Joe: Please put down your Starbucks, pick up your Blackberries and call your local board of elections. They will break it down for you in a very kindergarten way, how it is next to impossible to commit voter fraud. Really, they will.

      I know it isn't exactly fancy news style investigative reporting, but it really does garner results. Really. It does. Try it.

      And Mika, I am painfully aware of the lack of journalistic credentials not to mention intelligence on the part of your side kick, "Duh Joe Scarborough", but you at least have some kind of responsibility to appear as if you have journalistic integrity.

      Sitting there for three hours making exasperated faces at Joe the whole time is just is not cutting it anymore. It is so tedious. You look like you don't even want to be there anymore. Do you?
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    • Author by ZoeyKay (October 27, 2010 6:20 pm ET)
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      It's also easy to notice that they only place they claim this voter fraud is happening is only in the minority areas - they need to get a grip. But in the GOP's perfect world, we would still be back in their "good ol' days", when minorities didn't have the right to vote. So for those who didn't get the memo that the war is over, they really think it's voter fraud when their candidate doesn't win easily. And now they can't blame it on ACORN.
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    • Author by fiveball (October 27, 2010 10:03 pm ET)
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      It probably flagged fox's attention more because of the importance the conservative movement has put up on the Reid / angle? race. TBH im not totally concerned with this story...every election cycle you hear claims of this from both sides. I can only think of a few -the supposed black panther thing during the obama/mccain race, i dont think we can forget the bush/kerry fiasco anytime soon, and now a little bit of electronic voting hiccups which complaints against are not an entirely unheard of occurance. As for me i'm switching the channel.
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    • Author by grmce (October 27, 2010 10:43 pm ET)
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      When voter suppression is endemic as an election strategy and where the conduct of elections is essentially a "Dad and Dave" operation it is difficult to respect the electoral system. When I hear talk in revered tones about the true glories of U.S. democracy I am reminded of Gandhi's comment when asked what he thought of modern civilisation, "That would be a good idea."

      The whingey, whiney pre-emptive accusations coming from a group who have demonstrated a proclivity for perverting the electoral system says more about them than those that they accuse.
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      • Author by mary59 (October 27, 2010 11:12 pm ET)
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        Exactly. Bradblog is the best place to learn about election fraud. Voter fraud is just a red herring.
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    • Author by Kick a conservative (October 27, 2010 10:55 pm ET)
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      It could be a sign that this Republican tidal wave the media has been hammering is a myth when these guys already got their excuse why the Orange boner is still minority leader Orange Boner not Speaker Orange Boner. Or it's a dog whistle to get the knuckle dragging tea party folks to flood minority Democratic voting areas to harass people.
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    • Author by little poncho (October 28, 2010 11:37 am ET)
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      it's only voter fraud, if the right wing wachos',or wacky tea heads are loseing..............
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    • Author by ConLati (October 28, 2010 12:20 pm ET)
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      I just love how the Left talks about "baseless" accusations when there is evidence of voter fraud. This reminds me very much of my birth country... The Left there behaves very much the same way. They also hated Globovision, just like you folks hate Fox News and tried to shut it down. The similarities are endless... With Democrats controlling this country, our similarities will end up being replicas. Democrats=Socialist Party of Venezuela.... same rhetoric different language!
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      • Author by mjlilgui (October 28, 2010 12:36 pm ET)
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        You mention evidence. Can we see it, please?
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (October 28, 2010 1:14 pm ET)
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          Good luck. You might get a wingnut blog with a story about ACORN getting a Mickey Mouse signature on a registration form, but none of them seems to have anything better than that.

          Of course, that seems to fool them.
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    • Author by LagalLeft (October 28, 2010 6:28 pm ET)
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      I happened to catch Meghan Kelly's show...saw a ''news alert'' and was curious to see what had happened. Then she very seriously talked about ''voter fraud.'' I changed the channel because I though, oh, it's five days away from the election and Fox is hyperventilating again. Just like the New Black Panther Party non story. MMFA is on top of it. Thanks for calling out Fox's lies and right wing propaganda.
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    • Author by Commonman (October 28, 2010 11:24 pm ET)
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      We went to vote at the Albertsons Supermarket on College and Horizon in Henderson, Nevada on the first Saturday of early voting. My wife put her card in the voting machine and the screen came up with Harry Reid's name pre-marked on the ballot. She brought it to the attention of the poll worker. I don't know who did it or how it happened but it did and that is the truth. Put that in your left leaning pipe and smoke it.
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      • Author by mjlilgui (October 29, 2010 9:48 am ET)
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        same thing's been happening on machines with Sharron Angle, too. It's all anecdotal evidence, of course.

        I'm glad you came right here to let us know about it, though.
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    • Author by John Puma (October 29, 2010 10:23 am ET)
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      Yes, reich-wing howling about voter fraud means an election is here and the reich wing will be able to employ proven methods, and test new methods, of election fraud.
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    • Author by Jose4 (October 29, 2010 11:51 am ET)
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      It is hilarious how officials say something is impossible when the software is proprietary and not open available for scrutiny.

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    • Author by bilbo_dies (October 29, 2010 7:21 pm ET)
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      I like this quote:

      It is more likely that an individual will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.

      Of course your chances of being hit by lightning are about 1 in 700,000 so voter fraud must be pretty prevalent.
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      • Author by Jose4 (October 30, 2010 8:33 am ET)
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        1 in 700,000 would be very low voter fraud.

        I would guess it to be at least 1 in 100 which is 1% or more. Elections have been determined by a 1% margin.



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        • Author by bilbo_dies (October 30, 2010 9:47 am ET)
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          I would guess it to be at least 1 in 100 which is 1% or more. Elections have been determined by a 1% margin.


          Well, that is what you get for guessing. I am too lazy to google so you can take the time but; some of the numbers that I have seen have put the actual incidence of voter fraud (someone voting who shouldn't have) at around 0.001% of the election total.

          If you want to worry about something. Be concerned with voter suppression. People actively trying to suppress the votes of minorities.
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          • Author by Jose4 (October 30, 2010 11:03 am ET)
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            You mean like the New Black Panther Party tactics?

            I'm not going to worry about whether or not someone decides to vote.

            These voting machines with proprietary software are serious concerns to me. Programmers can easily program them to behave differently on different dates, etc.


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            • Author by Jose4 (October 30, 2010 11:07 am ET)
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              And I could write a program that keeps track of date/time changes and compensates to know when the real voting date arrives to spoof a test where the date is changed.

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