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Beck tells audience to ruin Thanksgiving dinner with misinformation about inflation

November 23, 2010 8:28 pm ET — 64 Comments

While advising his Fox News viewers to talk about inflation at their Thanksgiving dinners, Glenn Beck falsely claimed that the government removed food and energy prices from its measure of inflation to hide rising prices, that a survey showed economists are "worried" about inflation, and that Social Security recipients are not receiving a cost-of-living adjustment because the government "changed the calculation."

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Beck claims government is hiding inflation by removing food and energy prices from its estimate

Beck: Government removed "food and energy" from inflation estimate so that people wouldn't "recognize how bad things actually were." From the November 22 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

BECK: Then, you can say things like, "Did you know that Ben Bernanke is saying that we should be worrying about deflation?" Here he is:

BERNANKE [video clip]: -- rates of inflation, the constraint imposed by the zero lower bound on nominal interest rates is too tight. The short-term real interest rate is too high, given the state of the economy, and the risk of deflation is higher than desirable.

BECK: Ah, yeah. OK. George Soros says the same thing. He says in "spooky dude" voice, it is -- "It is the U.S. that is not in the position of Europe's heavily indebted countries, which must pay heavy premiums over the price at which Germany can borrow. Interest rates on U.S. government bonds have been falling and are near record lows, which means the financial markets anticipate deflation, not inflation, and I'm a spooky dude."

All right. They don't care. And you know what? George Soros and Ben Bernanke ain't going out and doing the shopping. Mom and Grandma are. Your wife is.

And inflation isn't even computed like it used to be computed. The government figured it out. The government realized that people could recognize how bad things actually were, so they changed how we calculated it. So, in other words, the TV could say, "There's no inflation," and you'd be going, "I'm broke. How's that happening?"

Now, they calculate inflation without adding in the price of food and energy. Oh, well, other than those going up, we're set.

Eric Bolling recently made similar claim on Beck's show. During the November 18 edition of Beck's Fox News show, Fox Business host Eric Bolling stated:

BOLLING: The government will tell you, people will tell that you we don't even have inflation. The reason for that is because the government puts out an inflation number that removes food and energy. How convenient, right? Because the only two things that we really use every day -- food and energy. So you remove that and things don't look that [inaudible] bad.

In fact, BLS provides inflation figures that do include food and energy

BLS Consumer Price Index includes food and energy prices. Contrary to Beck's claim, the government does provide inflation estimates that include food and energy prices through the All Items Consumer Price Index (CPI). In its most recent CPI report, BLS stated: "The Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) increased 0.2 percent in October on a seasonally adjusted basis, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today." From the Bureau of Labor Statistics website:

The CPI represents all goods and services purchased for consumption by the reference population (U or W) BLS has classified all expenditure items into more than 200 categories, arranged into eight major groups. Major groups and examples of categories in each are as follows:

  • FOOD AND BEVERAGES (breakfast cereal, milk, coffee, chicken, wine, full service meals, snacks)
  • HOUSING (rent of primary residence, owners' equivalent rent, fuel oil, bedroom furniture)
  • APPAREL (men's shirts and sweaters, women's dresses, jewelry)
  • TRANSPORTATION (new vehicles, airline fares, gasoline, motor vehicle insurance)
  • MEDICAL CARE (prescription drugs and medical supplies, physicians' services, eyeglasses and eye care, hospital services)
  • RECREATION (televisions, toys, pets and pet products, sports equipment, admissions);
  • EDUCATION AND COMMUNICATION (college tuition, postage, telephone services, computer software and accessories);
  • OTHER GOODS AND SERVICES (tobacco and smoking products, haircuts and other personal services, funeral expenses).

Also included within these major groups are various government-charged user fees, such as water and sewerage charges, auto registration fees, and vehicle tolls. In addition, the CPI includes taxes (such as sales and excise taxes) that are directly associated with the prices of specific goods and services. However, the CPI excludes taxes (such as income and Social Security taxes) not directly associated with the purchase of consumer goods and services.

The CPI does not include investment items, such as stocks, bonds, real estate, and life insurance. (These items relate to savings and not to day-to-day consumption expenses.)

BLS also states that the "prominent legislated uses of the CPI," such as Social Security benefits, individual income tax parameters and Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities are based on the "All Items" indices, which include food and energy prices.

BLS also provides numbers that exclude food and energy, and has done so since the 1950s. The BLS website further states:

In addition to the All Items CPI, BLS publishes thousands of other consumer price indexes. One such index is called "All items less food and energy". Some users of CPI data use this index because food and energy prices are relatively volatile, and these users want to focus on what they perceive to be the "core" or "underlying" rate of inflation.

Contrary to Beck's claim that the government is only "now" providing an estimate that excludes food and energy prices, the BLS records have data for this statistic going back to January 1957. Its most recent monthly report states, "The index for all items less food and energy was unchanged in October, the third month in a row with no change," and, "Over the last 12 months, the index for all items less food and energy has risen 0.6 percent, the smallest 12-month increase in the history of the index, which dates to 1957."

San Francisco Fed: Food and energy price changes "may not be related to a trend change in the economy's overall price level." According to the BLS, economic analysts closely watch "core" CPI, which excludes food and energy, "under the belief that food and energy prices are volatile and are subject to price shocks that cannot be damped through monetary policy." The Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco also explains: "One common way economists use inflation data is by looking at 'core inflation,' which is generally defined as a chosen measure of inflation ... that excludes the more volatile categories of food and energy prices." The document further states:

Why are food and energy prices typically more volatile than other prices?

To understand why the categories of food and energy are more sensitive to price changes, consider environmental factors that can ravage a year's crops, or fluctuations in the oil supply from the OPEC cartel. Each is an example of a supply shock that may affect the prices for that product. However, although the prices of those goods may frequently increase or decrease at rapid rates, the price disturbances may not be related to a trend change in the economy's overall price level. Instead, changes in food and energy prices often are more likely related to temporary factors that may reverse themselves later.

PolitiFact: 2010 has been a year of "relatively low inflation for food." PolitiFact.com stated on November 10:

During the 12-month period ending in September 2010, we found that the CPI showed food costs rising 1.4 percent -- exactly as [Wall Street Journal reporter Sudeep] Reddy said they did. For some historical context, we also looked back a couple years. We found that for the year ending in September 2009, food prices dropped two-tenths of 1 percent; for the year ending in September 2008, food prices rose by 6 percent; and for the year ending in September 2007, food prices rose by 4.4 percent. So 2009 and 2010 have indeed been years of relatively low inflation for food. (Here's a chart Reddy provided us showing some of the data he used.)

While Beck frequently highlights certain commodities that have recently increased in price, he ignores those that have decreased. As PolitiFact explained:

CPI data showed that the price of butter increased by 19.1 percent during the 12 months ended Sept. 30, 2010, while the price of bacon rose by 15.7 percent, lamb increased by 9.4 percent and milk increased by 8.3 percent. Meanwhile, BEA statistics show that certain broad food categories rose faster than the food-sector average: a 3.4 percent increase for meats and poultry, a 3.4 percent bump for milk, dairy products and eggs; and a 2.8 percent hike for sweets and sugar.

All of these items, in other words, rose a whole lot faster than food inflation generally. And it's simply human nature for a consumer to feel like prices are rising quickly if you have to pay increases like that every time you enter the checkout line. As long as you're paying through the nose for milk, the brain tends to forget that the dried lentils you just bought are down 5.5 percent, and the peanut butter you just bought is down 5.1 percent.

Indeed, in its most recent monthly report, the BLS stated that the food index rose 0.1 percent in October and that dairy products and meats increased in price, while fruits, vegetables, nonalcoholic beverages, cereals, and bakery products declined.

Beck claimed NABE survey shows economists are "worried about inflation"

Beck suggests NABE survey confirms his warnings about inflation. From the November 22 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

BECK: Nonprofit food distribution agencies are struggling at record-breaking pace this year. Their demand is outrageous. This is a picture from Northwest Washington, D.C. There were 3,000 people that waited in line for grocery handouts. Three thousand people. Bread lines. Do you remember breadlines? They're back in America in 2010.

Reuters said over the weekend -- the Reuters said that economists is worried about U.S. inflation. Now, hang on just a second. Inflation? I've heard the Fed, Bernanke say that -- no, no, no, we're not worried - we're worried about deflation. But a national survey for the National Association for Business Economics [NABE] ranked inflation a bigger worry than deflation. Sure, your house may deflate in price, but everything else is going to go up.

In fact, the survey said economists project "low inflation" through 2011

NABE survey: "Growth Projections Remain Sluggish: Continued High Unemployment with Low Inflation." Contrary to Beck's claim that the survey showed economists are worried about inflation, NABE itself released the survey with the headline: "Growth Projections Remain Sluggish: Continued High Unemployment with Low Inflation."

NABE survey: Concerns about inflation "are overshadowed by other issues." The results of the survey don't appear to justify the Reuters headline that Beck relied on, which stated: "Economists worried about U.S. inflation: survey." In fact, the survey found that while NABE panelists ranked "inflation" as a greater worry than "deflation," "both concerns are overshadowed by other issues, such as the federal debt, high unemployment, and increased business regulation." From the survey:

Panelists are sanguine about avoiding deflation. For example, core PCE inflation (excluding the volatile food and energy components) is predicted to rise gradually from a projected 1 percent at year-end 2010 to 1.5 percent by the end of next year. When asked about their level of concern about prices, NABE panelists continue to rank "inflation" as a greater worry than "deflation," but both concerns are overshadowed by other issues, such as the federal debt, high unemployment, and increased business regulation. In addition, roughly a third of panelists view the Federal Reserve's recently announced plans to purchase additional longer-term Treasury securities as "somewhat diminishing the risk of deflation." Another third view these plans as "somewhat increasing the risk of undesirable inflation." Finally, panelists increased their forecast for oil prices somewhat for both 2010 and 2011.

Reuters: Economists surveyed forecast consumer inflation to remain "below the Fed's considered comfort zone." From the Reuters report:

About a third of NABE panelists view the Fed's second asset purchasing program as somewhat lessening the risks of deflation, while another 33 percent saw the step as risking inflation.

Still, they forecast the Fed's preferred measure of consumer inflation -- the personal consumption expenditures price index excluding food and energy -- to rise to 1.5 percent by the end of 2011 from a projected 1.0 percent this year.

That is below the Fed's considered comfort zone between 1.7 percent and 2.0 percent. Inflation remains subdued as the economy slowly recovers from the worst recession since the 1930s. Core consumer prices rose 0.6 percent in October from a year ago, the smallest increase since records started in 1957.

Beck claimed government changed Social Security COLA calculation

Beck: Retirees aren't getting COLA because "they changed the calculation." From the November 22 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

BECK: Hey, Grandma. Things are getting more expensive. Ask this question: "Is your Social Security check going up to cover the costs next year?" The answer is no. Why? Because they changed the calculation. If costs are going up 30 percent on energy and food and other essentials, how does Grandma make ends meet? How does she do that? She doesn't.

In fact, since 1975, a formula has dictated COLA payments

AP: Social Security cost-of-living adjustments "are automatically set each year by an inflation measure." The Washington Post reported on October 16 government officials' announcement that "the nearly 54 million retirees and other Americans who receive Social Security benefits will not get any cost-of-living increase in 2011 in their monthly checks." This outcome was determined by a long-standing formula, as explained by the Associated Press:

The cost-of-living adjustments, or COLAs, are automatically set each year by an inflation measure that was adopted by Congress back in the 1970s. Based on inflation so far this year, the trustees who oversee Social Security project there will be no COLA for 2011.

[...]

Federal law requires the Social Security Administration to base annual payment increases on the consumer price index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers, which measures inflation. Officials compare inflation in the third quarter of each year -- the months of July, August and September -- with the same months in the previous year.

If inflation increases from year to year, Social Security recipients automatically get higher payments, starting in January. If inflation is negative, the payments stay unchanged.

Social Security payments increased by 5.8% in 2009, the largest increase in 27 years, after energy prices spiked in 2008.

But energy prices quickly dropped. For example, average gasoline prices topped $4 a gallon in the summer of 2008. But by January 2009, they had fallen below $2. Today, the national average is roughly $2.70 a gallon.

As a result, Social Security recipients got an increase in 2009 that was far larger than actual inflation. However, they won't get another increase until inflation exceeds the level measured in 2008. The Social Security trustees project that will happen next year, resulting in a small increase in benefits for 2012.

Social Security spokesman Mark Lassiter said the agency has no leeway to increase payments if the inflation measurement doesn't call for it.

Democrats have proposed $250 payment to make up for lack of COLA. As the AP reported on October 15, President Obama and the Democrats called for a $250 bonus payment to Social Security recipients after the Social Security Administration announced that "inflation has been too low since the last increase in 2009 to warrant a raise for 2011." The issue could reportedly come up during Congress' lame-duck session. Obama called for a similar payment in October 2009, since there similarly was no COLA that year.

At the time, Beck said that the payment for Social Security recipients was part of a culture of dependency on government handouts. From the October 20, 2009, edition of his Fox News show (from Nexis):

BECK: Progressives have been fighting for decades to achieve the power to decide for you, and erase the Republicans, now they just want to call it a democracy. They've come a long, long way, bit by bit, piece by piece, they have been chipping away your individual freedoms. We call them progressives now, but back in Samuel Adams' day, they used to call them tyrants. A little later, I think they're also called slave owners -- people that encourage you to become more dependent on them, and it's working.

I mean, when you were growing up, would you ever, ever remember seeing your town, people flocking to government offices over rumors of stimulus checks being handed out? Did you? Well, that's exactly what happened in Detroit. All the lines -- yeah, those lines, that's rumors of free money, Obama cash. It also happened in New York and Ohio.

[...]

BECK: And I'm danger to the republic. Nothing better than free government money that we don't know where it came from and we cheer every time they do it. We cheer for cash for clunkers. We cheer for the ASPIRE Act, that's $500 savings accounts for all babies born in the U.S. We cheer for the $250 check Obama writes for Social Security recipients, like little mice we cheer at the crumb that we get off the table. It's no longer "Ask what you can do for your country, it's what's Obama going to give me?"

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    • Author by bintx (November 23, 2010 8:37 pm ET)
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      Sorry, we talk about fun stuff at our family dinners. We laugh and enjoy each other.
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      • Author by kamrom (November 24, 2010 12:27 pm ET)
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        Well you're clearly anti-american then. Everyone knows that holidays should be used to tell everyone why you hate them so much but not enough to jab them with pointy things. The loonies on the right need everything to slip into their pre-defined lameness, which is impossible of course.

        Beck is such a disgusting liar. He's just making stuff up. And of course, the beck drones should be here any moment -- the ones who defend him/attack us for thigns Beck does. They will claim they did "independant" research, but all that means is either A) They're just lying as usual, or B) they consider the many MANY rightwing news aggregates who just keep the same talking points as their TV counterparts to be reliable "research" even when its clear they've copy-pasted the story in its entirety.

        Protip: When someone uses the strange phrases Beck comes up with, then claim they do their own research, they're lying
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (November 24, 2010 7:22 pm ET)
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          Everyone knows that holidays should be used to tell everyone why you hate them so much but not enough to jab them with pointy things.

          Shucks, "Jab your cousin with a fork" was always my favorite game over the holidays.
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      • Author by Macaco (November 25, 2010 1:41 am ET)
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        I missed it, where does Beck advise viewers to ruin Thanksgiving dinner?
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    • Author by nativeofsf (November 23, 2010 8:42 pm ET)
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      Not only is Glenda Becky a seditious piece of dreck, now this animated, lying-filth wants to spoil Thanksgiving!

      So choke on your HappyHolidaze Becky
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    • Author by MickD (November 23, 2010 8:48 pm ET)
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      I know if certain people in my family were there spewing this crap dinner would be ruined. Sigh.
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      • Author by nativeofsf (November 23, 2010 9:18 pm ET)
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        ...dinner would be ruined.?
        WRONG! You just set that lying, loudmouth sack'o dreck at the kiddie table.
        They'll take care of Becky but pronto!
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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (November 23, 2010 9:40 pm ET)
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      Lets see:

      Beck hates Mothers Day, because it was founded by Woodrow Wilson
      Beck hates Presidents day because it honors all past presidents, including Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, F.D.R., Andrew Jackson and a few others Beck would like to go back in time and murder in their sleep.
      Beck hates Halloween because he thinks it teaches kids to beg.
      Beck hates Arbor Day because he's indifferent about the environment
      Beck hates Thanksgiving because......he couldn't think of a reason, he's just a generally paranoid, stupid tea-tard.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (November 24, 2010 4:07 am ET)
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        Nostradumbass seems to be declaring a War on Thanksgiving.

        Just last week I heard an interesting bit on am radio, I think it was one of the wingnut fill-in hosts.

        He read a letter from one of his zombies, thanking him for saying the things she didn't feel comfortable saying. I assume she lived among sane people.

        Then he turned on his fan, telling her that she should not be afraid, and should repeat his words to her family over the holidays,

        I have right wing morons in my family. They've tried to ruin the holidays in the past, and have been politely smacked down by the rational family members. They should really learn their lessons.

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      • Author by mirreich (November 26, 2010 1:46 pm ET)
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        Halloween is reformation day, as a Lutheran. Halloween is a catholic-pagan plot, counter-reformation.
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    • Author by HenHouse (November 24, 2010 12:00 am ET)
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      I really am uncomfortable hating one person so much.
      The deep divisions in this country hurt me.
      I am so sad that many people eat becks sh1t by the handful.
      what is wrong with people !
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      • Author by nativeofsf (November 24, 2010 1:40 am ET)
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        Perhaps if they didn't sound so apathetically spineless,
        while believing a notochord is good-enough,
        or whining constipatively about not getting their own steaming plate load --
        then walking-away in a somewhat rubbery "Chicken Little" fashion...
        to then reinsert that empty head into the welcoming tuchas you so adore.
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    • Author by Unreality (November 24, 2010 1:59 am ET)
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      Beck says, "We cheer for the $250 check Obama writes for Social Security recipients,..."

      And John Kyl is holding the START treaty hostage because he wants $84 billion for improved nukes we don't need.

      But we can be sure Beck will cheer for Kyl.

      Given a choice, $8.4 billion a year is the same as $250 for 33,600,000 American seniors a year.

      I vote for paying my mother-in-law and father-in-law $250 each, not nukes.
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    • Author by eb (November 24, 2010 8:38 am ET)
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      So we are going to politicize inflation and deflation now? Tea party people, along with their already long list of outrages, now are riled up over inflation statistics and find it politically correct to downplay deflation (truly an economic nightmare) and emphasize inflation.

      Airport searches and inflation measurements that have been in effect since the 1950s are the latest in a series of we demand to have our America back talking points. More an more these conservatives look like political spoiled brats. They can't have their way right this minute so they throw a fit...

      And did Beck catch any of the other deflationary trends in recent years? Did he warn his mickey mouse club about the implications of free market policy when it came to housing prices and exotic financial transactions?

      It would be interesting to analyze the political implications of inflation and deflation. Inflation might be scary for some because it means workers need to ask for more pay, which gives trade unions a valuable function.

      Deflation seems to beg for government intervention because no one else can play a counter trend role. No one else but the government will hire people as markets contract.
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      • Author by jacobktm (November 25, 2010 1:19 am ET)
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        Inflation really isn't that bad if kept at a low enough rate. Inflation can help the U.S. pay down its debt faster for one thing. Not the ideal way to do it as the ideal way is economic growth but inflation at a certain rate can help with that too. Right now the marked drop in aggregate demand has been fueling fears of deflation which is bad for consumers (especially borrowers, and as so many households are in debt deflation would literally be an economic nightmare).

        I'm really loving, though, how Beck seems incapable of firing up a web browser and typing www.bls.gov before making claims on his show, or better yet how his viewers seem similarly incapable before believing his claims. But, you know, he's america's history teacher...you can't expect him to be up to date on current events...or history (like the fact that the bureau of labor statistics has been measuring inflation both with and without food and energy since 1957).

        Also the whole deflation thing is great, it makes sense that they would downplay it as many prominent tea party activists also advocate for a return to the gold standard whose biggest risk is high levels of deflation (this is aside from the myriad other problems which crop up just when considering implementation). Back when the U.S. economy was small the gold standard made sense today we would have to acquire for the exclusive use as a currency reserve all of the gold above ground on earth right now and then instantly double its value for the amount of gold there is to have the same value of the U.S. Economy and then hope that the rate that the gold appreciates in value keeps pace with the rate the U.S. economy is growing (or we get deflation). Of course this is assuming that the U.S. gets literally all of the world's above ground gold and uses literally all of it for currency. Fat chance. The value of the gold that the U.S. keeps in its reserve vaults is a small fraction of the U.S. economy. To increase the value of the gold enough to establish a workable gold standard would be to seriously enrich a few individuals, and get the cooperation of other world governments in raising the value of gold sufficiently to make the gold standard work. Other problems include a real misallocation of resources as gold is actually a very valuable element in electronics and other areas of our every day lives. In fact in my humble opinion it's in its practical applications to circuitry and electronics that gold's real value lies, using it as a currency or a currency reserve would be a terrible waste.
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    • Author by David2012 (November 24, 2010 8:46 am ET)
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      This is an outright lie, Glenn.

      An outright lie.

      Good Lord, man, have you no sense? Don't you see how misleading this is to your apparently devoted listeners?

      I'm stunned.

      Well, for those who care, inflation is not at this point a serious risk.

      Productivity is up. Profits are up. We have to find a new paradigm in which employment can also be up. One of many differences between Glenn and me is that I believe that we will. I also think that it is critical that we reduce economic inequality.
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    • Author by uncle.billy (November 24, 2010 9:43 am ET)
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      I can see it Becky you're the angry dry drunk at the dining room table ranting and raving making the children cry...
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    • Author by shaggles (November 24, 2010 11:57 am ET)
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      Holy f**king crap! Never mind that he's full of sh!t. Is Beck actually complaining that SS recipients aren't getting a cost-of-living adjustment? Isn't SS a big socialist program? And doesn't Beck advocate austerity measures to reduce the deficit? He contradicts himself almost as much as Limbaugh.
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    • Author by shaggles (November 24, 2010 11:57 am ET)
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      Holy f**king crap! Never mind that he's full of sh!t. Is Beck actuall complaining that SS recipients aren't getting a cost-of-living adjustment? Isn't SS a big socialist program? And doesn't Beck advocate austerity measures to reduce the deficit? He contradicts himself almost as much as Limbaugh.
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    • Author by wookie (November 24, 2010 12:21 pm ET)
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      If Beck actually cared about any of this instead of being a cynical huckster he might look into traditional liberal issues like alternative energy and how population growth stresses resources.
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      • Author by kamrom (November 24, 2010 12:32 pm ET)
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        Thats true for a lot of things. If they actually cared about making abortions illegal, they woulda done so in 2002. If they actually cared about spending, they would pay for the endless, pointless, empire-ending wars we're in. If they actually cared about the economy, they could take home only 1% of a company's profits and using the rest to help spur economic development.

        But they dont care. All the want is the US to collapse in a slew of school-less idiocy.. "heres your voucher for a private, religious school that demands you follow its theology. Oh, and start saving now: The voucher program will be cancelled forever just as soon as we defund all public schools and use the money too attack Iran, North Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, and whoever else is on our target list next."
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    • Author by MaineiacMan (November 24, 2010 2:07 pm ET)
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      Well look at that! Thanks for clearing that all up Media Matter's! Terrific news because I buy all the food in my family. It's great to know that the noticable increase in what I am paying is just a figment of my imagination.
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      • Author by sullivan4239 (November 24, 2010 8:30 pm ET)
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        I don't like Beck any more than anyone else at this site, but I have to agree with him (and you) on this one. The government is not telling us the truth with regards to the CPI.
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        • Author by open_mind (November 24, 2010 9:38 pm ET)
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          I guess you would believe that if you didn't read the article above at all. If you actually read it, you (or MaineiacMan) would actually have provided a reasoning to support your pretty lame assertions. No such luck I guess.
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          • Author by sullivan4239 (November 25, 2010 9:41 am ET)
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            Thanks for your knee-jerk response to my post, but you make some lame assertions yourself.

            The reasoning that supports my assertion is based on personal experience. I am retired and living on a fixed income. My retirement income and my investments in TIF bonds are all dependent on the Consumer Price Index. As long as the government can ascertain that the CPI is unchanged, I will see no increase in my income. This will also save the government, and the tax payer a lot of money.

            Admittedly, I have not done a lengthy search to determine how the values of specific products and services have fluctuated, but I do know that it costs me a great deal more to live now that it did one, two and three years ago. Truly, many products vary in price, up and down, and others that have been outsourced to other countries have gone down in price, such as electronics. However, each year my property appraisal increases, affecting my taxes. Each year my insurance rates increase, along with health care and medication. And I can't detail the changes of each item in my grocery basket, but I can tell you about the basics, bread, beer and meat. Those have all increased, as has the total grocery bill.

            I hate coming here and finding myself defending Glenn Beck, who I despise, but if the idiot didn't make a valid point every once in a while, he wouldn't have a forum at all. And when he does make a valid point, you are being the fool by not acknowledging it.

            The Consumer Price Index is being manipulated by the government to pad the federal coffers. Figures don't lie but liars figure.
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            • Author by David2012 (November 26, 2010 2:23 pm ET)
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              I recommend that you do that lengthy research and determine what is actually happening with prices rather than anecdotal, unsystematic evidence, even your own.

              Here's an anecdote from me: People tend to focus on rising prices of particular familiar commodities, and not to notice falling ones.
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      • Author by jacobktm (November 25, 2010 1:35 am ET)
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        Is the noticeable increase a real increase, though? Have you compared current grocery receipts to past receipts? Of course such a comparison is only valid if the overall distribution of goods is similar (or better yet identical). You could also try making the comparison over a month's grocery receipts (comparing a current month's grocery receipts to several past months grocery receipts to measure your household's inflation rate). While the prices of some goods may have gone up noticeably we often tend to overlook (as stated in the article) where prices have gone down. It's also important to remember that government policy often has little, if anything, to do with the cost of food and energy. This is why these are excluded from the core inflation index, which seems to be effected more by domestic economic policy than food and energy which are also effected by environmental events such as drought or flooding, or foreign decisions over which we may have some influence but have little control. This isn't to say that the core indexes aren't subject to environmental or foreign events, but they seem to be far less effected by them in general.

        Beck's entire point, though, was that the government is trying to placate people by lying to them and hiding the real rate of inflation by excluding food and energy from the CPI, which is blatantly false as anyone with an internet connection can discover by browsing over to www.bls.gov and actually reading. Yes some food prices are going up, but others are going down and the bureau of labor statistics is not excluding these facts from the index and still the overall trend is an overall low rate of inflation even among food products.

        Your basket may differ from theirs (you might be on a diet of exclusively red meat and milk or something so that's all you buy). Sometimes you may go to the store and only get a few things which may mainly have increased in cost so it may appear as though you're spending more in general but a more comprehensive comparison may show only a modest increase in cost more in line with the increase in the CPI.

        Let's also not forget that not all goods purchased in a home are foods and energy so decreases in other goods and services will also help to offset any increases in certain food products. Your expenditures on some products have certainly increased noticeably but it's highly likely that your overall household expenditures for any given month have only increased modestly probably consistently with the increase in the CPI.
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        • Author by eb (November 25, 2010 9:52 am ET)
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          IT reminds me of conservative views on taxes. Taxes have been going down but to hear conservatives complain, you would think they are at record highs
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      • Author by ilikeike (November 26, 2010 7:03 pm ET)
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        i have not noticed a rise but will look for itnext timei get groceries
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    • Author by Another_Cat (November 24, 2010 3:16 pm ET)
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      "George Soros and Ben Bernanke ain't going out and doing the shopping. Mom and Grandma are. Your wife is."

      I'm sure that the guys are shopping, but more telling than that is the way Beck couched that statement...YOU are not shopping, YOU being the MEN that he is talking to, not the women (mom, grandma, wife...all the same woman?), who are dutifully doing the shopping because that is their place?

      Please tell me I'm not turning into a conspirist by seeing this in his terminology!
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    • Author by Willa (November 24, 2010 4:30 pm ET)
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      Gee. . . . . I wonder what he has in store for Christmas????
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    • Author by RedandWhite Guerilla (November 24, 2010 4:41 pm ET)
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      You want to keep the government out of your home? I want to keep Glen Beck out of my turkey!
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    • Author by oscar the grouch (November 24, 2010 9:08 pm ET)
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      Don't know what Eddie Beck has planned for Thanksgiving, but for me and my wife and those gathering with with us, we are going to take some time to reflect on the many blessing we enjoy in this country at this time. Sure, things could be better, things have been better at times in the past, but all in all, there are so many things for each of us to take some time to be thankful for at this (and most other times) of the year.

      Happy Thanksgiving to all and may the upcoming Christmas Season continue to bring bleassing to all you and yours!!
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    • Author by Ryon (November 24, 2010 9:40 pm ET)
         
      http://enlightenedeconomics.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/an-incendiary-mix-inflation-cpi-and-the-us-federal-reserve/

      Here is an interesting article I found.

      Prices increasing are a symptom (I believe) of inflation. Inflation is just "inflating" the money supply.
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    • Author by Upgrayedd (November 25, 2010 1:26 am ET)
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      Leave it to Beck to spoil what to many is a happy occasion.
      I fear for his Christmas rhetoric.

      Happy Thanksgiving to all.

      Ignore the man behind the curtain.
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      • Author by WestMassman (November 25, 2010 9:30 pm ET)
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        Leave it to Beck to spoil what to many is a happy occasion.
        I fear for his Christmas rhetoric.

        It was written about years ago by Dr Seuss. An ugly little green creature that hates every thing an lives on the edge of town .........
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    • Author by cackman131 (November 25, 2010 1:34 am ET)
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      The only inflation I'll be worried about today is my belly bustin' out over my belt buckle. I just hope that those loyal viewers start to catch on to the ridiculousness being spewed. Happy Turkey Day!!! ps. F the Cowboys.
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      • Author by mescal (November 25, 2010 4:11 am ET)
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        Your bizarre, frothing rant is living proof that blind, irrational hatred can be more addictive and more crippling than any conceivable narcotic.

        And this is how you choose to go into Thanksgiving.
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        • Author by usp (November 26, 2010 12:04 am ET)
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          we should set scum like this on fire- in the street.
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          • Author by mescal (November 26, 2010 3:11 am ET)
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            Well, that may be a bit harsh, usp, but we should certainly give him a good sound verbal thrashing. There is a certain mitigation to WhatThe's hate-filled tirade by the fact that he is undeniably mentally ill. And, it's not completely his fault that he is a total retard.

            Hope you had a good Thanksgiving.
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      • Author by MickD (November 25, 2010 7:02 am ET)
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        No facts, just opinionated anger.
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      • Author by eb (November 25, 2010 9:50 am ET)
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        As far as Liberal, Progressive, Socialist, Scum, Democrats are concerned, they are idiots, plain and simple, selfish, greedy, idiots What the.

        Another emotionally driven rant from a conservative who is angry because... ultimately he can't have his way and live in a world that is 100 percent conservative.

        Too bad for these whiny cry baby conservative types. They can't deal with the fact that they have to live in a country that, for now, tolerates non-conservatives. Yes some people want liberals and progressives to represent them in congress.

        But more to the point, how exactly has life deteriorated to such tyranny for you that you would want a one party state, with the opposition sent back under the rocks at the bottom of the sewage treatment plant where they came from.

        What exactly have these parasitic leeching, free loaders done to you, and don't just complain about the economy, because the parasitic leeching, free loaders that destroyed our economy were the wall street fat cats who were enabled by conservative libertarian policy.
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      • Author by MilitantMNMan (November 25, 2010 1:01 pm ET)
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        Well thanks for proving how right wingers are, not only historically bankrupt, but mentally unstable freaks.
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (November 25, 2010 2:38 pm ET)
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        Ah, the local psychiatric hospital has let the inmates go home for Thanksgiving dinner and one of them found a computer.
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      • Author by WestMassman (November 25, 2010 9:27 pm ET)
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        Part of my family was at Jamestown, another part came on the Mayflower. Who are you telling to go home? THIS IS MY HOME you freak And yes I am a Liberal, Progressive, Socialist, Democrat with a PHD. Idiot?? I doubt it.

        I guess we have found the Thanksgiving Day turkey...
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      • Author by ilikeike (November 26, 2010 7:08 pm ET)
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        say what you really mean.
        but seriouisly please come herewith something to say.have some facts ,maybe a real opinion. otherwise you are just a boring blowhard.
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    • Author by DNA (November 25, 2010 10:23 am ET)
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      Beck is a sick,sick man. He's got to be miserable with himself and want others to be that way, also. Ruin Thanksgiving? What a sicko!
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    • Author by kkopczyk10 (November 25, 2010 10:51 am ET)
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      I'm sorry but this guy confuses me. He said, "We call them Progressives now but in Samuel Adams' day we called them tyrants." Weren't the people who fought for our independence the progressives wanting to break away from the tyranny of King George? Give an idiot a television show and you give him the power to rewrite history.
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    • Author by mcnairbo6573 (November 25, 2010 1:29 pm ET)
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      Thanksgiving----A time to get together with family and friends and spread propoganda into the populace. Now that's a family value that would make Hitler proud.
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      • Author by Charger25 (November 26, 2010 6:30 pm ET)
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        Glenn Beck and Fox News are the best thing that ever happened to America. You liberal Progressives are a bunch of clown sitting in your parent's basements. Get a life and a job and stop depending on the government
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    • Author by rtejon (November 25, 2010 2:40 pm ET)
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      Food inflation is driven by the futures market more than anything, and that's how food gets wasted in some places and people starve in others.
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    • Author by killprogressives (November 26, 2010 3:27 am ET)
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      First of all you can't have the Federal Reserve print money from thin air and not have any repercussions. QE2 is another term for inflating the money, Monetizing the dept. Read Peter Schiff or Michael Maloney, they have been right for years about economics and whats coming. While Paul Kraugman has been wrong and is still wrong but the left listens to him. You would think the left would go ask the advise of people telling the truth and have made correct perdictions on the economy. but I don't understand the left. Forget Glenn Beck for a minute, your just attacking him because he has exposed the progressives. Learn History read about the 30's we are repeating the past. There is inflation, thats what printing money brings you. Its a tax, transfers wealth from people to the Gov/Fed Reserve. I know you lefty wierdos like that but, you are making bankers rich. Stupid lefties, all don't understand. Or you do understand and you want the collapse of our Country. Its one or the other.
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    • Author by SanctifyMe (November 26, 2010 10:47 am ET)
         
      Most statistical agencies also report a measure of 'core inflation', which removes the most volatile components (such as food and oil) from a broad price index like the CPI.
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    • Author by SanctifyMe (November 26, 2010 11:35 am ET)
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      I missed the part about ruining thanksgiving.
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    • Author by mrearl (November 26, 2010 12:00 pm ET)
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      Beck sells listener ears to sponsors. One of his sponsors sells gold. Gold is a hedge against inflation. Who is served by fanning fears of inflation? Follow the money.
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