Off The Rails: The Year In Fox News Misinformation
As the year comes to a close, Media Matters offers a month-by-month look back at Fox News' most outrageous and factually challenged moments of 2010.
January
Hume Counsels Tiger Woods To Ditch Buddhism To "Make A Total Recovery." On the January 3 edition of Fox News Sunday, Brit Hume commented on the scandal surrounding golfer Tiger Woods: "He is said to be a Buddhist. I don't think that faith offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption offered by the Christian faith. So my message to Tiger would be, 'Tiger, turn your faith -- turn to the Christian faith, and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world.' " Hume's attack on Buddhism was criticized by religious leaders, but endorsed by Hume's Fox News colleagues Tucker Carlson and Fred Barnes. Hume stood by his comments despite the criticism.
Fox Hires Palin As A Contributor. On January 11, The New York Times reported that Fox News had hired former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as a contributor who "would appear on the network's programming on a regular basis as part of a multiyear deal." Her well-established record of pushing falsehoods notwithstanding, Palin said that she would provide "the fair and the balanced reporting and analysis that voters in this country deserve." One of her first Fox News appearances was an hour-long interview with Glenn Beck on January 13 in which the two misled on the Federal Reserve, and Beck read to Palin from his diary.
Fox Campaigns For Scott Brown. In the run-up to the January 19 special Senate election in Massachusetts, Fox News hosted Republican candidate Scott Brown several times for softball interviews and provided a forum for Brown to raise funds. Fox News personalities like Dick Morris made explicit appeals on Brown's behalf, telling viewers to "please, please help" Brown. Stuart Varney claimed that "your 401(k) could do well" in response to a Brown victory, and Bret Baier compared Brown's candidacy to the "Miracle on Ice."
February
Fox Campaign Season Heats Up. Following Scott Brown's victory in Massachusetts, Fox began promoting more Republican Senate candidates, like Illinois' Mark Kirk and Florida's Marco Rubio. Several Fox News personalitieslikened Kirk to Brown; Fox repeatedly aired a National Republican Senatorial Committee attack ad on Kirk's Democratic opponent, Alexi Giannoulias; and the network gave Kirk a platform to attack Giannoulias. Fox alsoheavily promoted "political star" Rubio, reporting extensively on his fundraising appeals and speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference. On the February 1 edition of Hannity, Dick Morris solicited GOP candidatesfor Senate, which precipitated Republican Ron Johnson's campaign in Wisconsin.
Fearmongering Over Health Care Reconciliation. Reacting to reports that Senate Democrats were considering using the budget reconciliation process to pass the health care reform bill and circumvent a Republican filibuster, Fox News adopted the GOP framing of reconciliation as a violation of Senate rules, undemocratic, and contrary to thewill of the people. Fox also falsely characterized reconciliation as the "nuclear option" to wrongly accuse Democrats of hypocrisy.
March
Open Activism Against Health Care Reform. As the health care reform bill moved toward passage, Fox News' opinion and news personalities engaged in open opposition to the bill. Fox news anchors agreed that the bill was unconstitutional and said they would vote against it, while the network's opinion-makers lobbied for the bill's defeat. Commentators like Dick Morris, Glenn Beck, and Mike Huckabee encouraged viewers to contact members of Congress and urge them to oppose the bill, and the network helped to publicize anti-health reform rallies.
Fearmongering was rampant as Fox News compared the bill to a tumor and a nuclear weapon. Fox News also pushed misinformation and falsehoods about health care reform, falsely claiming the bill provided increased federal funding for abortion, promoting a non-scientific "survey" of doctors claiming they would leave medicine if reform passed, accusing Democrats of making "special deals" and offering "bribes" to ensure passage, andattacking the Congressional Budget Office's scoring of the bill.
Glenn Beck's Fiascoes Multiply. Beck devoted his entire March 9 program to an interview with former Rep. Eric Massa (D-NY) after Massa claimed -- without any evidence -- that the Democrats had forced him out of the House because he refused to vote for health care reform. The hour-long interview did not produce any evidence of Democratic wrongdoing -- instead, Massa acknowledged that he resigned under allegations of sexual harassment. Beck concluded the program by apologizing to his viewers: "I have wasted an hour of your time."
Later in the month, Beck went on a tirade against Democratic leaders, like Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), who "wanted to compare themselves to the civil rights activists" as they walked arm-in-arm to the House health care vote. Beck screamed at them: "How dare you!" Lewis is, of course, an icon of the civil rights movement who marched, arm-in-arm, with a group including Martin Luther King Jr. at the Selma Civil Rights March.
April
Hannity's Tea Party Appearance Canceled. Of the many Fox News personalities appearing at tea party events coinciding with Tax Day, Sean Hannity drew additional scrutiny for the fact that he was set to tape an episode of his Fox News program at an April 15 Cincinnati Tea Party event and charge audience members for tickets, with proceeds going to the tea party group. Hannity's plan was criticized by veteran journalists as crossing ethical lines, and reportedly "furious" Fox News executives yanked Hannity from the event at the last minute. Earlier in the month, Rupert Murdoch, chairman of Fox News parent company News Corp., said that Fox News "shouldn't be supporting the Tea Party."
O'Reilly's Fox News Defense Fails Spectacularly. Responding to Sen. Tom Coburn's (R-OK) suggestion that Fox News perpetuated the falsehood that individuals without health insurance can be sent to prison under the new health care reform legislation, Bill O'Reilly said on April 13: "[W]e researched to find out if anybody had ever said you are going to jail if you don't buy health insurance. Nobody has ever said it. What it seems to me is you used Fox News as a whipping boy when we didn't qualify there." In fact, that very falsehood had been repeated countless times across Fox News' many platforms, including on O'Reilly's own show.
Dick Morris Invents, And Then Retracts, Clinton-Reno-Waco Story. On the April 19 edition of Hannity, Dick Morris claimed that Bill Clinton had told him that he had retained Janet Reno as attorney general because she threatened to "tell the truth about Waco." Morris explained that this story "had never been said before." The next day, Rush Limbaugh picked up Morris' story, claiming that "Reno's appointment to a second term as attorney general was to keep her quiet about the Waco invasion." One day later, Morris appeared on Fox & Friends to walk back the false story, claiming to separate "the facts" from his "conjecture based on the facts."
May
John Stossel Calls For Repeal Of Civil Rights Legislation. Echoing comments made by Senate candidate Rand Paul (R-KY), Fox News' John Stossel argued against the public accommodations section of the Civil Rights Act, which ended lunch-counter discrimination, saying that "private businesses ought to get to discriminate." According to Stossel: "I would go further than [Paul] was willing to go ... and say it's time now to repeal that part of the law." Stossel repeated his argument several times throughout the month, while Fox News' media criticism and news programs steadfastly ignored the controversy surrounding Stossel's comments.
Crusading Against Justice Kagan. Not long after President Obama nominated Solicitor General Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court, Fox News began their assault on Kagan, dredging up a 30-year-old college quote to claim she has "written derisively about conservatives." From there, the attacks grew only more strident, with Sean Hannity leading the charge, suggesting Kagan was "just another radical," lying about Kagan's experience and suggesting she's a socialist, and falsely claiming she "kick[ed] military recruiters off of campus" at Harvard.
Calling For Impeachment Over Sestak Non-Scandal. Reacting to news reports that the White House had offered Rep. Joe Sestak (D-PA) an unpaid position on a presidential panel if he chose not to seek the Democratic nomination for Senate in Pennsylvania, Fox News personalities falsely claimed that the White House had broken the law and "bribed" Sestak. Even though legal experts across the ideological spectrum rejected such claims, Fox News commentators suggested that the White House committed a "crime" that rose to the level of an "impeachable offense."
June
Giving Land Back To Mexico. On June 15, Fox News reported that a "massive stretch of Arizona [is] now off limits to Americans. Critics say the administration is, in effect, giving a major strip of the Southwest back to Mexico." The next day, Fox Nation reported: "Obama Gives Back Major Strip of AZ to Mexico." The claim was completely false -- the strip of land in question is part of a national wildlife refuge that, according to refuge officials, was closed to the public in 2006 -- two years before Obama was elected -- and is still very much under the control of the U.S. Border Patrol. Even after the story was debunked, Fox News continued to mislead, reporting that the land had been "quietly surrendered" to "Mexican drug gangs and illegals."
Standing Up For BP. As the Gulf oil spill grew worse, Fox News led the conservative media in defending BP, attacking the Obama administration for "demonizing" the company. Many of the attacks were centered on a $20 billion escrow account BP set up, at the urging of the White House, to pay damage claims from Gulf residents. Monica Crowley attacked Obama for "continuing to villainize" the oil company. On Hannity, Newt Gingrich claimedObama was "directly engaged in extorting money" from BP. Stuart Varney called the account a "political slush fund" that was "Hugo Chavez-like."
July
Fox Hypes Phony New Black Panthers Scandal. A Media Matters report found that in more than 100 instances between June 30 and July 17, Fox News hyped the manufactured scandal that President Obama's Justice Department engaged in racially charged "corruption" in the New Black Panther Party case. The phony allegations, made by GOP activist J. Christian Adams, were largely promoted by America Live anchor Megyn Kelly and, following a familiar pattern, were picked up by non-Fox media outlets. Still, numerous media and political figures, including Fox News contributors and Republicans, have dismissed the phony scandal.
Fox Assists Breitbart's Smears of Shirley Sherrod As Racist. On July 19, Andrew Breitbart posted a deceptively edited clip of then-USDA official Shirley Sherrod and accused her of racism. Following Breitbart's post, FoxNews.comran an article headlined "Video Shows USDA Official Saying She Didn't Give 'Full Force' of Help to White Farmer," before the USDA announced Sherrod's resignation on July 19. Following her resignation, Fox News programs amplified attacks against Sherrod. Fox News Senior Vice President Michael Clemente later admitted that a "breakdown" allowed FoxNews.com to run the story about Sherrod's comments. Prior to Clemente's admission, however, Fox aggressively claimed it did not cover the story prior to her resignation.
August
Fox Provides Megaphone To Park51 Opponents. A Media Matters review of Fox News' evening coverage of the planned Islamic cultural center near Ground Zero found that between May and August 13, the shows hosted at least 47 guests to discuss the project, nearly 75 percent of whom opposed the center. Over the summer, Fox News routinely used anti-Muslim rhetoric and dubious arguments to attack the proposed center.
8-28 "Restoring Honor": Glenn Beck Honors Glenn Beck. On August 28, Glenn Beck hosted his heavily promoted "Restoring Honor" weekend in Washington, D.C. Beck's event was focused on one thing: Glenn Beck. Beck introduced a Beck-sanctioned clergy group that he claimed represented "180 million people," comically associated himself with Martin Luther King Jr. and the civil rights movement, made outlandish claims about the impact of the events, and was praised as "one of America's most trusted and honored citizens." Beck's "non-political" rally was also steeped in politics.
September
Glenn Beck And Fox News' Anti-Semitism Problem. Following a pattern, Glenn Beck promoted a book by Eustace Mullins, who has been described as an "anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist" and a "nationally known white supremacist"; the ADL called the book "a re-hash of Mullins' anti-Semitic theories about the origins of the Federal Reserve." In October and November, Beck repeatedly attacked financier and philanthropist George Soros with anti-Semitic stereotypes, referring to Soros as a "puppet master" and accusing him of controlling the media, the political process, and the global economy.
Fox Calls For Repeal Of The 20th Century. In September, Media Matters documented that since President Obama's election, Fox personalities have expressed opposition to or called for the repeal of virtually every progressive achievement of the 20th century, including Social Security, Medicare, the Americans with Disabilities Act, portions of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the 16th and 17th Amendments to the Constitution.
Fox News' Christine O'Donnell Problem. Following Christine O'Donnell's surprise victory in the Delaware Republican Senate primary, many Fox media figures coalesced around O'Donnell and took to bullying other Republicans -- including Fox News' Karl Rove -- into supporting her. O'Donnell, who was told by Sarah Palin to "speak through Fox News," reportedly said she had Hannity "in her back pocket" and a Fox source told Media Matters that O'Donnell appeared on Hannity after canceling on Fox News Sunday in order to "get a certain kind of treatment."
October
Kilmeade "Misspoke" About "All Terrorists" Being "Muslims" -- Twice. On the October 15 edition of Fox & Friends, co-host Brian Kilmeade claimed that "[n]ot all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims." Later that day on his radio program, Kilmeade asserted that it's a "fact" that "every terrorist is a Muslim" and questioned whether "moderate Muslims" need to prove "you're not one of them." Kilmeade -- who, like his Fox News colleagues, has a history of bigoted and anti-Muslim statements -- later "clarif[ied]" that he "misspoke."
Glenn Beck's Violent Rhetoric -- And Its Consequences. In October, nearly three months after Byron Williams was arrested on his way to kill "people of importance at the Tides Foundation and ACLU," Media Matters released "Progressive Hunter," a report from journalist John Hamilton, who spoke with Williams at the California jail where he currently awaits trial. In his interviews with Hamilton, Williams described Beck as "a schoolteacher" and said "it was the things [Beck] exposed that blew my mind." Beck has a long history of using violent rhetoric to attack progressives and Democrats.
November
How Fox News Won The Elections. Throughout the 2010 election cycle, Media Matters documented how Fox News, its employees, and its parent company engaged in an unprecedented campaign in support of the Republican Party. The network served as the communications and fundraising wing of the GOP while fervently promoting -- and sometimes creating -- the party's candidates. Specifically:
- Fox Parent Company Donates $2.25 Million To GOP-Linked Groups. On September 30, Politico reported that News Corp. had donated $1 million to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Following the donation, Fox offered little in the way of disclosure. On August 16, Bloomberg reported that News Corp. gave the Republican Governors Association (RGA) "$1 million in June" and that News Corp. was "[t]he Republicans' biggest corporate donor" for 2010. The New York Times further reported on August 17 that the donation "is one of the biggest ever given by a media organization, campaign finance experts said." On October 15, The New York Times reported that News Corp. donated an additional $250,000 to the RGA in July. In the weeks that followed, Fox often neglected to disclose the donation while reporting and discussing gubernatorial races.
- FoxPAC: Fox News Figures Raise Big Bucks For GOP. Fox News contributors Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, and Rick Santorum all raised tens of millions combined for Republican causes. Contributor Karl Rove ran a shadow Republican National Committee during the election that directed tens of millions to Republican causes and ran tens of thousands of TV ads. And contributor Dick Morris served as a one-man campaign for the Republican Party.
- GOP Candidates "Speak Through Fox News." Republican candidates took the advice of Sarah Palin, who advised Christine O'Donnell to "speak through Fox News," and participated in numerous softball interviews and fundraising pushes on the network.
- Fox News Builds Conservative Movement, Creates 2010 Candidates. Media Matters documented how Fox News engaged in conservative movement-building by heavily promoting and taking ownership of the tea parties and guiding them toward the Republican Party. The election also featured Republican candidates who were previously employed by, or inspired by, Fox News.
- More Than 30 Fox Newsers Support GOP In 600-Plus Instances During Midterms. During the election cycle, more than 30 Fox News personalities endorsed, raised money, or campaigned for Republican candidates or organizations in more than 600 instances. The Republican support was given to more than 300 different races or party organizations in at least 47 states. Media Matters found that Republicans routinely tout the Fox News affiliations of their supporters.
Fox News' "Nazi" And "Socialism" Rhetoric Comes Straight From The Top. In a November interview, Fox News chairman Roger Ailes referred to National Public Radio executives as "Nazis" with a "Nazi attitude" and claimed that "[t]hey are the left wing of Nazism." As Media Matters documented, Ailes' employees at Fox News, particularly Glenn Beck, have also used Nazi and Holocaust imagery to smear President Obama, Democrats, and progressives. Ailes also referred to Obama's policies as "socialism." Ailes' opinion is shared by his Fox News employees, who regularly characterize Obama and his administration as "socialist."
Lou Dobbs Joins Fox Birther Network. In November, Fox Business Network hired Lou Dobbs. While with CNN, Dobbs repeatedly advanced false conspiracy theories about President Obama's birth certificate. Dobbs has company at Fox, as his new colleagues have a history of embracing birtherism. In December, The Washington Post noted that Fox is the "second-chance employer" for those who "ran afoul" of liberals, such as Don Imus and former WJLA (DC) anchor Doug McKelway.
Andrew Napolitano Pushes 9-11 Conspiracy Theories -- Fox Is Hypocritically Silent. On November 23, Fox News' Andrew Napolitano told 9-11 conspiracy theory leader Alex Jones that it's "hard for me to believe that" World Trade Center Building 7 "came down by itself" -- a central tenet of 9-11 conspiracy theories -- and claimed that "twenty years from now, people will look at 9-11 the way we look at the assassination of JFK today. It couldn't possibly have been done the way the government told us." Napolitano made similar remarks in May on a separate radio program. Despite criticizing 9-11 conspiracy theorists in the past, Fox News was silent about Napolitano's remarks.
Fox News' 2012 Presidential Roster. In November, Media Matters released a report estimating that between January 1 and October 31 of this year, five potential Republican presidential candidates who also serve as Fox News contributors or hosts -- Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin, John Bolton, and Rick Santorum -- had appeared on the network for a combined total of nearly 66 hours. Media Matters estimates this time to be worth at least $40 million in advertising costs. Figures both within and outside Fox News -- including some of the potential candidates -- have praised Fox News as a helpful vehicle for a potential run for the Republican nomination.
December
Fox News Vs. The DREAM Act. According to a Media Matters analysis, Fox News gave guests who oppose the DREAM Act, a bill that would provide a path to legal status for certain immigrants who came to the United States as children, more than 40 minutes of airtime from November 23 through December 6, but only about 7 minutes to supporters during that same period. In November and December, Fox News regularly resorted to inflammatory rhetoric and false claims to attack the legislation.
Fox Washington Managing Editor Bill Sammon Caught Slanting News Reporting. Media Matters released emails showing Washington managing editor Bill Sammon directing staff not to use the phrase "public option" when discussing health care reform legislation. The emails, which were sent during the height of the health care debate, echoed Republican pollster Frank Luntz's appearance on Hannity in which he encouraged host Sean Hannity not to say "public option," but instead use the term "government option," because "if you call it the 'government option,' the public is overwhelmingly against it."
Media Matters also obtained emails from Sammon in which he instructed news staff to "refrain from asserting that the planet has warmed (or cooled) in any given period without IMMEDIATELY pointing out that such theories are based upon data that critics have called into question." This directive was issued less than 15 minutes after Fox correspondent Wendell Goler accurately reported on-air that the United Nations' World Meteorological Organization announced that 2000-2009 was "on track to be the warmest [decade] on record." Sammon's email was sent as the network heavily promoted the fabricated "Climategate" scandal.
Media Matters previously reported that sources with knowledge of the situation had raised concerns about the direction of Fox's Washington bureau under Sammon, who took over as managing editor in February 2009.
Obama is a hatchet-faced nutmeg dealer.
I have in my hand a list of 248 (or was is 137? or 45? I always forget) card-carrying Marxists in the Obama administration!
If you elect Obama, he will take us off the gold standard for our currency.
Obama let Pearl Harbor happen (but he wasn't born in Hawaii...he was born in the dark country of Kenya!)
And let's not forget,
HE'S A MUZLIN
1. While we haven't de jure given land back to Mexico, foreign criminals now have some degree of de facto control over part of our territory. It's not difficult to find images of the signs that the federal government put up warning people to stay out of the large active smuggling corridor in AZ (much larger than five square miles and extending far north past the border). Foreign criminals have a great deal of control over that corridor and even have lookout bases in that corridor. Instead of being aghast at the U.S. in effect ceding part of our territory to foreign criminals, MMFA tries to cover it up.
2. Whatever Fox did about the DREAMAct, it can't match what the MSM has been doing for years. For years and years, newspapers from coast to coast have been printing cookie-cutter pro-illegal immigration puff pieces designed to promote that bill. Most of those never mentioned any of the downsides of that bill, and many of them followed the same structure. That page links to a table showing two such articles side-by-side: one from a Chicago paper, another from an NY paper. The similarities are striking. That's been going on for years and has had a far greater reach than anything Fox has done, and MMFA has said nothing.
3. Regarding Dobbs and "Birthers", take this test. No one yet has accurately described that image. Be the first!
The DHS is in effect declaring a light amnesty for non-criminal illegal aliens: all they have to do is not get caught and the DHS will basically leave them alone. In several cases, the DHS has decided not to deport large groups of illegal aliens (after "paper raids").
And, in case you missed it, here's the recent Why George Bush Should be Shunned, based on posts going back to 2004.
Can you please provide a link to the story in the WaPo? Thanks.
Merry Christmas and Happy Solstice, wacko. And may all the illegal images in your head find a stable home.
1) "Link please?" Translation: I have to see what non-credible conservative source you got your (mis)information from so I can attack the source and strike your well-thought opinion (based on facts) in one or two sentences.
or
2) The conservative is called an idiot, a troll, a wacko, a brain-dead Beck worshipper, etc. since the liberal feels the need to respond, but yet cannot discredit the conservative argument. So the insults usually fly.
Rinse. Lather. Repeat.
I don't know why I come here anymore. Used to be for laughs. Now it's just "Day 2,563 of trying to bring down Fox News"...
At least sites like Newsbusters have a multitude of networks to easily pick out liberal bias. Here it's just Fox, Rush, Beck, and whatever internal memos from one partisan contributor to another can be ginned up to try and discredit Fox News. Then I can read and re-read all the insults from the peanut gallery in the comments. So boring...
But yet here you are...
I can see why most logical informed people just do a drive by and move on.
Do you have any functioning brain cells?
<way to use a question mark>
Do you? If you did, then perhaps I could address it. Carry on and enjoy your ignorance!
Link please?
Canada also has one fo the "freeist" presses. CBC, Global TV and CTV have all won international awards in journalistic excellence.
I believe you have only shown me again....you are all rhetoric and no subsatance.
Canadian Constitution has enshrined " Citizen rights" and not " Corporations rights"
Man, you should get out more.
Yeah, no. You're using the Debate for Idiots, Trolls, Wackos, and Brain-Dead Beck Worshippers. "Link please?" actually translates to, I'm sorry but I won't take what you have to say just on the strength of your saying it. Please provide a source for your argument. And the fact is, rightwingers almost never provide reputable sources for their pucky.
$$$$ IRONY ALERT $$$$
Note the organization it's from, and guess which major funding source they and MMFA have in common.
1. The source for that article is a group funded by MMFA's $ugar Daddy.
2. And, in case you missed it, here's the recent Why George Bush Should be Shunned, based on posts going back to 2004.
I see no complaints in there where you claim George W. Bush was "cooking the books" on his immigration numbers - similar to your criticism above of President Obama. Maybe I missed it.
:)
In effect, defacto, such a nice solid terms.
Gazillienth reminder, MMfa is not a news organization.
2. Your link is full of talking points, no evidence, and a partisan's deffinition of puff pieces. If your serious about something you don't go with puff pieces as serious policy statements. Paranoia much?
3. Sorry that's time I'd never get back.
4. Before you claim I'm not strong enough to take your test, I've got about ten unanswered posts you could respond to.
Oh, that probably isn't the answer you wanted to hear, was it.
Here's a hint: what substance is the link at my link above made of?
Sure, wingnut!
CBS and Dan Rather initially defended the documents and the report,[44] but on September 20, 2004 - less than two months before Election Day, CBS News stated that it had been "misled" and that it could not authenticate the documents and should not have used them.[45] CBS then formed an independent panel headed by former U.S. Attorney General Dick Thornburgh and retired Associated Press president Louis D. Boccardi to investigate the story and the handling of the Killian memos.[46] The final report of the panel, while not addressing the authenticity of the documents, faulted many of the decisions made in developing the story, and producer Mary Mapes along with three others were forced to resign from CBS News.[47] Prior to the panel report being completed, Rather announced the date of his retirement,[48] left "60 Minutes Wednesday", stepped down as anchor on March 9, 2006, and then left CBS altogether on June 20, 2006.[49] The CBS news show that had aired the memos, "60 Minutes Wednesday" was canceled on May 18, 2005, allegedly due to poor ratings and not because of the memos broadcast.[50] In September 2007, Rather sued CBS and its former parent company, Viacom, for US$70 million, claiming that he had been made a "scapegoat" over the memos story.[51]
-Nixon coverage
-Vietnam
-Soviet invasion of Afghanistan
-Saddam Hussein interview.
Even with this giant blot on his career, his press credentials outweighs the entire Fox news cast. Fox's idea, and apparently yours too, is to look something up on wikipedia and prays it as the gospel.
Wikipedia= user upload!!!
Name an investigative report that Fox has ever done? The truth is they don't do journalism, they look at wikipedia, they quote each other and issert GOP talking points.
O'Riley claimed he had won two Polk awards. It turns out he didn't win any. The show he was on previously won one Peabody.
Fox= Propatainment
Teacher: Tommy spell carnation!
Tommy: Carnation...um what color?
Teacher: Pink!
Tommy: P-i-n-k, Pink!
That's the guy foisted on us by the nutjobs. 10 years later, we're still paying the price in blood and money.
Granted, Bush will never be confused with Audie Murphy, but at least he served in the military which is more than we can say about Clinton and Obama.
Sorry, lonewacko, but every one of your attempts to demonstrate this "disinfo" fails with flying colors.
1. It's quite a leap to say that signs warning people about criminal activity in an area mean we are "in effect ceding part of our territory to foreign criminals". And obviously you only read the mmfa headline, because if you had read the entire item, you would have seen that this area is off-limits because it has been a national wildlife refuge since 2006.
2. Congrulations, you've demonstrated that this is a partisan website. Most of us already knew that, however, because it says so in the mission statement.
3. Your birther arguments have been debated and debunked many times, you just forget what you've been told.
And, no one's ever "debunked" anything I've written about the cert issue. The only ones who've made a valid try have been caught lying.
Uh, no, it's not.
And if you're a birther, Mr. Whacko, you're a racist.
Until national guardsmen stop citizens from entering that area, you're still free to go there.
Hunted white tail deer in southern AZ for 25 years. Stopped going there about five years ago do to all the smuggler trails that had been blazed thru the area (20 miles north of the border). You would be stunned to see the amount of trash scattered thru the desert. Found large piles of backpacks and drug bale shoulder straps near our traditional campsite. That was the last time we ventured into southern Arizona to camp and hunt.
This is not a partisan issue. Both parties, for their own reasons, have failed at securing our borders. The Federal Government has failed miserably at one of the few things they are actually responsible to do. Pretty funny that they want to take over health care, that is not their duty, yet they can't secure the border area that is their duty.
I just love this racist thing. It is sort of like the universal insult. You can just throw it out there on any subject. What a useful term.
So you're a sissy, and you want the government to step in and make you not look like a sissy?
Put on your big boy pants, nanny-stater.
ohh man...LMAO.
I"m not sure what to post I'm laughing so hard now.
You know most weed doesn't come in on foot right ?
The sad reality of the situation on the border is this: If drugs were legal, none of that chaos on the border would be happening. The War on Drugs has been and always will be a complete and total failure and waste of money. It's another example of the Big Mommy Regime causing havoc by trying to regulate every little aspect of people's lives.
Right. We get it. You live your life very scared. You take the coward's position on nearly every subject. No on is surprised by this. What does that have to do with the government? Blaming your own fears on your government. That is extra special cowardly.
It's sad and hilarious how far partisan hacks will go to defend MMFA. And, it helps show how dangerous it is to give power to those like MMFA: they don't have what's best for the U.S. at heart.
they don't have what's best for the U.S. at heart.
Liar. It's those who lie (you) and believe lies (you) that are bad for the country.
Duh...That's what the second amendment is for. Your rights specifically allow you to protect yourself. Is this a great country or what.
Unless you live in areas that don't respect your rights. Sorry New Yorkers you are too stupid to be allowed to protect yourselves. But at least its not like anyone important or worth protecting lives there anyway.
Though the last one i think doesn't worry you considering you are a sociopath.
Even if legal citizens can't get guns the criminals sure can. I sure feel sorry for the Mexican citizens that are not allowed to own guns and are being slaughtered by the criminals that also are not allowed to own guns. They sure seem to kill a lot pf people with the guns they are not allowed to own.
Fully auto are not what most "narco terrorists" use. It is far easier the conceal and use a semi- auto. Fully auto is always what teh movies protary, but that is not the reality. small burst is always more accurate.
May be easy if you have the parts. But it is brutal to get the parts in the USA and the penalties for even having the parts are tough.
Keep lying in defense of murderers and criminals, you scum.
Again the full auto weapons in Mexico are coming from the US Government not Smoes gun Shop in Duluth.
I would remind you that having a fully automatic weapon will get you a felony charge for your troubles.
Sigh...do you not see the giant hole in what you are saying?
No Waco happened because simple minded people thought some pedophial, nut job was the Messiah. Fueled by religious lies and anti government propaganda, he had apocalyptic dreams of being " Cyrus" hence his name change to Koresh. Cyrus in the bible is called " Meshiah" which means G_D's annointed.
I love how it always the governments fault...
" Gently pets Extremist on the head..You are such a good little doggie.."
But you are going to go to America and use straw buyers to purchase SEMI auto weapons one at a time when you can buy them by the shipping container in full auto all over the world.
You could stop every weapon from leaving the US and it would make absolutely no difference to the cartels operation.
Even more funny is one of their best sources are full auto weapons given to the military and police by the US govt that are sold to the cartels by the Mexican police and military. I guess you could say the US GOVERMENT is a major supplier of cartel guns.
Hey, since you're back try answering the other posts. I'd especially like to know about the times you and others you know have successfully defended yourselves with your handguns.
Here it is again. http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdguse.html
As far as cartel guns here is fact check on the BS 90% number the Obama admin was using to try to get gun confiscation started.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/counting-mexicos-guns/
Hilarious, this is the first line of the cite you give, yet you were the one disputing it in your last post.
"In a joint statement presented to the Senate Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on Crimes and Drugs, ATF Assistant Director for Field Operations William Hoover and Anthony Placido, assistant administrator of intelligence with the Drug Enforcement Administration, clarified that the 90 percent figure is true of guns that were submitted and could be traced."
Do you even read the cites you your citing? or are you just saying the untracable ones obviously don't come from the Staes. (without evidence of course)
"Given the lack of hard data from Mexico, we can’t calculate a precise figure for what portion of crime guns have been traced to the U.S. Based on the best evidence we can find so far, we conclude that the 90 percent claim made by the president and others in his administration lacks a basis in solid fact. But we also conclude that the number is at least double what Fox News has reported, based on its reporters’ mistaken interpretation of ATF testimony."
"Whether the number is 90 percent, or 36 percent, or something else, there’s no dispute that thousands of guns are being illegalIy transported into Mexico by way of the United States each year."
All of these blubs are from sources you provided. I hate to cut and paste but you continue to amaze me with your citing literature that goes against your point. American guns are the majority of the Mexican cartels arsenal thats a fact even cited by you.
"Put on your thinking hat and think this one thru. You are a wealthy drug cartel. You buy boats and planes, you import drug chemicals etc etc.
But you are going to go to America and use straw buyers to purchase SEMI auto weapons one at a time when you can buy them by the shipping container in full auto all over the world.
You could stop every weapon from leaving the US and it would make absolutely no difference to the cartels operation."
40% = no difference (sounds like FOX news facts)
I actually think it would be a good start to take away 40% (a lot closer to the probable number) of the Mexican drug cartel's weapons. This is exactly the problem. Even if we agree that the number is actually 36% you'll argue tomorrow that taking away that 36% of their weapons won't help. At least that seems to be your argument today. Keep shaping the argument. My point is made your post was a lie. And now it will be a rationalized lie. Why?
I am much more worried about the cartels getting shoulder launched anti aircraft missiles from Hugo Chavez than the "illegally" supplied guns from the US.
My guess is it's the same logic thats let you think that the Luby's incident is a good argument for legal hand guns even though he bought them over the counter due to ludicrously light to non-existent gun control laws.
-Hey didn't we support Manuel Noriega?
-Hey didn't we support right wing totalitarian movement called the Contras?
-Hey didn't we arm the Mujahadin in teh 1980's?
-Hey didn't we arm Saddam in he 1980's too?
-Didn't Oliver north sell weapons and plane parts to Iran, so he could fund Contras?
-Hey didn't we supply weapons to the Marcos'in the Phillipines.
If you look at Mexicain Cartel weapons seized by DEA in US and in Mexico about 40% originate from US. They do not travel through a secondary country.
Let's us not forget while Reagan funded Mujahadin, that would later become Al- Queda and Taliban, Pakistani ISI received a ton of money and then amazingly Pakistan had a nuclear weapon a decade later.
Again, you need to think about what you are saying. your corporatist supporters are the source of many of our woes.
Huh......
1)Criminals don't wait for gun shows to buy guns, they're readily available on the street to anyone who wants them.
2)There is no "moral concern" involved when deadly force is used in SELF DEFENSE.
I think it is important to use your safety equipment at all times. I spend a lot more time in public than I spend in my car or on my bike. The concealed weapon is a much more valuable piece of safety equipment than a seat belt or helmet.
As far as a bad ass car it should be car's and motorcycle's.
Some of them are in fact pretty bad. My favorite is a red Vespa. 78 MPG.
Don't think needing to use force would be something anyone ever wants to have happen.
If that were the case, you wouldn't bbe bragging about it so much.
Guns do not protect people except perhaps in the home. On the street they are far more likely to be sued against the owner. It falsely empowering.
I carried a gun for many years for work, it does nothing to protect you. Awareness and information are what protect you.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64U3XO20100531
By the way we had universal coverage and now we are ending it. Universal means I can go anywhere, at any time, for any treatment. The only way you lose your universal care is if you want someone else to pay for it. Then you get rationed care not universal care.
Your system only allows you to have what the government says you can have. Here you can get anything you want, anywhere you want. That is until Obamacare kills the open universal system we have.
The end of Universal care.
What I hate losing is the open system where I can choose and replacing it with a system that says what I can have and when I can have it.
If Canada didn't give us hockey, it would be completely useless.
a) We are not Canadian. b) We have no interest in becoming Canadian. c) America is far superior to Canada.
Easy read, not to many pages.
http://www.amazon.com/Lubys-Legislature-Womans-Against-Control/dp/096567844X
Both guns were purchased legally from Mike's Gun Shop in February and March of 1991 in Henderson, Nevada. Although he had a history of mental illness, Hennard was never committed by court order to a mental health institution. Federal law prohibits firearms purchases only by people who have been committed to a mental health facility under court order. <totally plagiarized>
Thank God for the lack of gun control. I'd hate to think those people could have lived if this idiot wouldn't have been able to get that gun,
but then heaven would be less full. <irony>
Was in that area on business and noticed several individuals who did not appear to fit in. First rule of self defense is to be aware of your surroundings. As I pulled up to the drive through window they ran up to each side of my car. They did not expect to be staring at a 44 mag when they reached the window. It freaked the guy looking through the passenger window out so bad he ran into a block wall next to the drive through and bloodied his own nose. Never saw two thugs run so fast. The drive through window guy was even laughing as he called 911.
Did you see the census results. People fleeing the North East corridor of taxes and social failure in droves. Just hope they don't bring their politics of failure to the South West.
Every time I see that Wiener guy or Chucky Schumer I wonder what kind of failed social parasites elect buffoons like that to represent them.
Look nobody gives a $#!t about your little town with its strip mall that provides nothing of use for the world. Stay in your "real america". I really nejoy living in fake America and knowing that there is a world outside and that i don't think of myself as the biggest $#1t since you started typing.
I may have to go out in my back yard, pick some fruit of my trees and lay in the grass looking up at the clear clean sky. But don't move here and mess it up.
Having seen the devastation brought on by central government thugs. I have learned and will try to enlighten Americans before they give their precious freedom up to a corrupt Federal Government from shear youthful stupidity.
Do you think i support those horrible corrupt governments? The government in my country, unlike the one here, completely emblezzed tax payer money. Money that was necesarry for public needs. You on the other hand complain about government actually serving its people and call those that use those services parasites. You may have gone to those many foreing countries, but is obvious that you have never learned anything from them other than what you wanted to know.
Also it's pretty ironic that you rail against the government, but if it weren't for it you wouldn't have gone to even half of those places and possibly even met your wife.
It is critical that you study and understand the foundation of this country. Much of our history and founding is being warped for corrupt purposes. Read the 5000 Year Leap. a great place to understand what the founders gave their lives and fortunes to create for you and I.
I find legal immigrants to be some of the best at seeing the dangers a strong central government poses to your liberty and freedom.
My family forgoes Christmas presents and donates to charity everything we would have spent. Easier to do now my kids are older and choose to do it.
I donated more to one food bank in one donation this year than most will pay in taxes in ten years.
The solution is not corrupt crony central government.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/world/americas/25coulter.html
http://www.coulterincanada.com/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/22/ann-coulter-told-to-watch_n_508406.html
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2821184/ann_coulter_canada_speech_cancelled.html
He continued, "Promoting hatred against any identifiable group would not only be considered inappropriate, but could in fact lead to criminal charges."
Wow, criminal charges for not using politically correct speech. Mao would be proud. What is next, reeducation camps to ensure everyone in Canada uses politically correct speech.
Oh my - in an idiot's mind promoting hatred against an identifiable group is just a bit anit-pc. Well played.
There's a north and south europe now?
Oh my! Mail order? Or did you find her in Amsterdam whilst window shopping?
Funny how they have the shopping organized by type.
I don't know how you can allow all those knives in New York.
Maybe you need a steak knife registry. I am sure Bloomberg could get one going.
Hence you and the rest of the wingnuts getting over your 9/11 exploitation, and trying to screw the first responders.
Do you support Al Qaeda openly now ?
As far as Al Q, isn't New York building them a headquarters at ground zero.
You didn't answer my question. I'll take that, along with your mocking those killed on 9/11, to mean you support the terrorists.
BTW, grown men who use the the term "bad guy" when typing out their gun fantasies may as well just write " I'm hung like a hamster."
Give it up. You're wrong on this one. Big time.
The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.
But I am curious what the original says. Just curious. Inquiring minds want to know.
(AP) State officials in Hawaii on Monday said they have once again checked and confirmed that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen, and therefore meets a key constitutional requirement for being president.
They hoped to stem a recent surge in the number of inquiries about Obama's birthplace.
"I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/28/politics/main5193109.shtml
"I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."
And, I think we all know that if McCain were president MMFA and their fans would be at the forefront of Birtherism, albeit not under that name.
What is there that is important? Does his birth doctor or birht hospital matter? The hometown of his parets, his weight at birth? There is nothing htere that the certificate of live birth does not provide.
Thanx for asking that, Johaely, so the rest of the sane people didn't have to.
I don't know which are sadder, the screaming redneck birthers, or the seemingly rational, relatively bright birthers.
You guys just use logic improperly. Just speculating over and over as to why Obama does not do what you claim you want him to. The burden of proof is on you at this point. You have to actually offer some positive evidence of your own. The time for that is long passed. Have you guys even had a single victory in any court on this issue? You seem to think that if you beat a dead horse hard enough, it will somehow magically move faster.
You've only proven to be a racist birther.
I HAVE NEVER EVER POSTED ANYTHING ABOUT THE VALIDITY OR RIGHT TO BE PRESIDENT.
But I am curious what is on the original that prevents him from having it released to totally end the controversy.
You're not curious. You're a Birther 2.0, which means you are a racist.
Is that right?
The term " Liberal media" took hold from a book in the late 1960's that the Nixon administration jumped on promoted. the lady who wrote the book " Edith...something" used flawed information and mislead people deliberately.
Nixon promoted the book and the term.
If you look at MSN they have done positive and negative stories on immigration issue.
Also, the issue with Mexicain drug cartels on our borders, is in part our own making.
We displaced the Colombian Cartels with the Phantom 5th Division of the Colombian military. We never destroyed the cocoa fields.
The Mexicain Cartels were promoted from middle-men to the big bosses.
We never did anything to curb US consumption of cocaine or other things like meth. Though, the DEA scored a victory by limiting US exports of pseudoephedrine, which US makers fought. Mexico was importing enough pseudoephedrine to medicate all of North America and South America.
Then when Mexicain cartel members are in the US we sell them guns.
If you want to limit illegal immigration and border issues we need to do teh following:
-fine corporations that higher illegals
-have a national ID card to be employed
-amnesty for the illegals that are not criminals. Make it path to citizenship.
-guest worker plan
-better border security at borders
This all costs money and we always hear" Tax cuts" instead. You have to pay to get something and most Americains have bought into the idea they are taxed too much and that government can't do anything...so nothing happens.
This issue is like most of our other foreign woes, our own making:
-Afghanistan, mujahadin supported by Reagan and paid through the Pakistani ISI. Then the mujahadi became member of the Taliban, Al-Queda, and Hamas.
-Pakistani connection led to issues in Swat valley and the emergence of Pakistani Taliban.
-Funded Saddam Hussein in the 1890's to fight Khomeini. Of course Hussein invaded Kuwait.
-Did I mention that most borders in the Middle-East were agreed upon by: US, France,England and Russia after WW1? they were based on those countries desires, rather than anything truely historical.
-US supports the Wahhabi regime in Saudi Arabia. Most " radicalized muslims" are trained and educated in Wahabbi madrassas.
We only have our selves to blame for most of issues. Gread, power and fear....You know what Fox loves to sell.
People like us are "in what we call the reality-based community," which Rove defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
It is the equivalent of saying: I reject your version of reality and choose to substitute my own.
Correct me if I'm wrong, (and no one on Media Matters has, by the way.) but didn't Chrissy Matthews say Obama was like the "New Testament" and gave him a thrill up his leg ?
Oh, let me guess....that's not propaganda because it's true and Obama IS the Redeemer, right ?
It should be called what it really is" Propatainment" (propaganda/ entertainment). Fox has never really broken a real news story.
" Obama spending $200 million a day on presidential trip"
If only that was a real story. No research done on veracity.
"Obama planing a government take over of healthcare"
If only that were true."Government take over" is a term coined by right, in a likelyhood Frank Luntz.
" There are death panels"
Yes there are and they are in Arizona, thanks Governor Brewer.
"There is no Climate change"
Yes those scientists are all wrong. Snow in December proves it is wrong!
Fox employes GOP candidates and consultants: Palin, Huckabee, Rove, Hannity, etc... The idea is simply to repeat untrue talking points. Eventually, people will except them as true since they have heard it so often.
When a guest is on that challenges them, which is very seldom, they get destroyed. Christopher Hitchens owned O'Riley so many times it isn't funny.Representative Anthony Wiener called out Doucey on " Death Panels" which doucey denied. Ever notice Beck and Rush never have on guests that oppose them? Also, Fox employees seldom appear on media outside of Fox. The result is the same they get destroyes.
Glenn Beck ended a few shows by saying " I couldn't sat this if it were not true" or," I wouldn't still be ehre if it was not true". Of course you can lie on T.V., there is no law that says you can't misreppresent things. Just look at the " Swift Boat" adds, or anything funded by US Chamber of Commerce.
Fox is creating an army of little "Brown shirts" under the command of Fox Reich Marshall Ailes. Many people who watch Fox feel they are informed, when studies have shown the opposite. This shows how effective the paradigm they are using is. Frank Luntz is commiting logocide and spreading the idea to others.
How many times have you heard the president called: a fascist, a nazis, a marxist, a communist. a radical or as Beck said a racist? The meanings of the words is being twisted. The purpose is to elicit negative emotions.
Then this is coupled with the idea he may not be a citizen or he is a secret muslim.
All these concepts are used to scare people, to make them think the President Obama is not like us.
Fear....ignorance and misinformation is the currency of Fox.
Fight the Lords of Illusion
On the face of it, it's SO sadly ironic. The fox has been used throughout history as a symbol of cunning devious trickery. Now more than half the nation is listening to a fox as their trusted adivisor. Since Fox News has come on the air, our country has wound up in one heck of a mess. But, listen to the fox! He knows just how to fix it. And don't forget to buy more of those special gold coins. You'll be rich!
Prime time ratings show, in reality, that the majority of Americans are not watching ANY of the cable opinion networks at night.
Ratings
The Scoreboard: Wednesday, December 22
By Alex Weprin on December 23, 2010 4:55 PM
•Total day: FNC: 267 | MSNBC: 139 | CNN: 119 | HLN: 113
•Primetime: FNC: 335 | MSNBC: 246 | CNN: 112 | HLN: 131
5p: 6p: 7p: 8p: 9p: 10p: 11p: 12a:
FNC Beck: Baier: Shep: O’Reilly: Hannity: Greta: O’Reilly: Hannity:
293 334 320 407 308 290 286 260
MSNBC Matthews: EdShow: Matthews: Olbermann: Maddow: O’Donnell: Olbermann: Maddow:
205 223 156 242 268 229 142 157
CNN Blitzer: Blitzer: KingUSA: ParkerSpitzer: King: Cooper: Cooper: King:
119 158 123 126 106 102 81 84
HLN Showbiz: Prime: Issues: Grace: Behar: Grace: Showbiz: Behar:
92 71 157 202 129 68 82 117
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/category/ratings
Facts are stubborn, huh ?
Further, CNN gets more viewers throughout the day than any other cable opinion network. Fox is not a "news" network, nor are CNN or MSNBC. HLN, during the morning hours, is the closest thing to a "news" network on cable. CNN got 12 million more viewers than Fox and 14 million more than MSNBC in November. More people are watching something OTHER than Fox than are watching Fox. Prime time, Fox has about 2-3 million viewers at any given time. Most people aren't watching ANY of the prime time programs on the opinion networks at all. They're watching REAL entertainment instead of BS on an opinion program.
Try reading . . . preferably source documents. You'll be surprised at how much BS you've been hearing on Fox.
LiberalEagle422, you are funnier than bintx
Apologize any time you wish, jake. You were wrong. I posted facts.
I was pretty sure you wouldn't admit that you were wrong.
Apologize any time.
Oh, and I don't hate Fox or any of the other cable opinion networks. I simply understand that they are not news networks, for the most part, and rarely watch ANY of them. Apparently, you do not.
There ya have it folks. The nutjob mindset.
Someone the other day (was it you, Jake?) told me that they could ALWAYS tell when they win an argument.
You act like a child. Are you a child?
You don't win anything.
And isn't it interesting that even though fox viewers seem to watch more of fox, they are still less informed CNN watchers?
You didn't prove anything except that you are uninformed, childish and gullible. You also didn't achieve your goal of, as squawks says all the time, "getting under our skin." We're laughing at you.
I'm taking my ball and going home.
You are a child, jake.
Fixed
Cable News Ratings for Wednesday, December 22, 2010
By Bill Gorman– December 23, 2010
Posted in: Cable News Daily Ratings
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Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for December 22, 2010
P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
Total Day
FNC 956 250 458
CNN 339 104 166
MSNBC 458 126 213
CNBC 187 54 92
HLN 261 108 135
Primetime P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC 1,492 335 656
CNN 450 112 171
MSNBC 902 246 378
CNBC 215 88 109
HLN 470 131 227
Net Morning programs (6-9 AM) P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC FOX & Friends 878 276 484
CNN American Morning 191 79 98
MSNBC Morning Joe 366 104 199
CNBC Squawk Box 136 55 93
HLN Morning Express w/ Meade 310 194 210
Net 5PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC GLENN BECK 1,202 293 531
CNN SITUATION ROOM 445 119 213
MSNBC HARDBALL WITH C. MATTHEWS 720 205 299
CNBC FAST MONEY 231 57 87
HLN SHOWBIZ TONIGHT 213 92 122
Net 6PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC SPECIAL RPT W/BRET BAIER 1,788 334 725
CNN SITUATION ROOM 569 158 288
MSNBC ED SHOW 739 223 350
CNBC
HLN PRIME NEWS 165 71 96
Net 7PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE FOX REPORT W/S.SMITH 1,270 320 595
CNN JOHN KING USA 379 123 180
MSNBC HARDBALL WITH C. MATTHEWS 696 156 272
CNBC KUDLOW REPORT 142 57 80
HLN ISSUES 384 157 231
Net 8PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE OREILLY FACTOR 1,924 407 831
CNN PARKER SPITZER 458 126 186
MSNBC COUNTDOWN W/ K. OLBERMANN 866 242 340
CNBC BEHIND COUNTER: FRANCHISE 156 77 94
HLN NANCY GRACE 606 202 337
Net 9PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC HANNITY 1,262 308 570
CNN Larry King Live 481 106 145
MSNBC RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 981 268 428
CNBC CNBC TITANS: MERV GRIFFIN 228 82 106
HLN JOY BEHAR 552 129 237
Net 10PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC ON THE RECORD W/GRETA 1,281 290 563
CNN ANDERSON COOPER 360 410 102 184
MSNBC LAST WORD W/ L. ODONNELL 859 229 366
CNBC AMERICAN GREED 256 102 122
HLN NANCY GRACE 272 68 116
Net 11PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE OREILLY FACTOR 914 286 453
CNN ANDERSON COOPER 360 282 81 127
MSNBC COUNTDOWN W/ K. OLBERMANN 486 142 231
CNBC MAD MONEY 86 44 55
HLN SHOWBIZ TONIGHT 234 82 110
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/12/23/cable-news-ratings-for-wednesday-december-22-2010/76482
Classic authoritarian follower behavior.
You make the assertion, then you provide the facts/links/evidence of some kind. Failure to do that indicates you are being less than honest.
You've asserted that Fox Propaganda leads all other cable news networks in total viewers. You fail, however, to provide a link to the actual research that proves your assertion. Again, if YOU make the assertion, it is up to YOU to provide the evidence.
Typical authoritarian mindset.
OK seriously dude, even for a teenager you can't possibly be that stupid. B presented you with facts, with actual Nielsen numbers and you STILL refuse to credit it. You just keep on watching Fox and believing that, because a bunch of other folks watch, they are telling you the truth.
The reply was a scream joke referencing Howard Dean.
We're dealing with Terri Schiavos.
Dean --> scream
Mediamatters --> Soros
Fox --> ratings
GOP racists --> Sen. Byrd
Clinton --> naughty bits
And your "exception" is that you respond to the mention of Clinton with a gratuitous discussion of the naughty bits?
You should really get somebody to help you post here.
If it makes you feel better, the pain you're feeling is a good pain. As you build up a tolerance to the truth, it will hurt less.
Court ordered I presume?
imaginary health care crisis --> raise taxes
people too lazy to work --> redistribute wealth
criticism of Obama --> racist
socialism --> utopia
Which is YOU!!!
Come on - you are really pretending to be this stupid, right?
"I never said I watch FOX I just pointed out the facts which were presented by someone other than me."
the problem with this statement is that you say you pointed out facts presented by someone else. the trouble is that they are not facts. the facts were spoon fed to you and you choose to ignore them. that's the definition of a winger.
While I don't call for the silencing of my opponents (Voltaire tyvm) I do wish there was a greater ability of fox to be known as the tabloid of news outlets. "some people are saying" "some people say" "the janitor cleaning the toliets told me" are all signs of trustworthy news reporting.
Wake up and smell the manipulation Jake5, and the rest of you sheep. You're the ones getting fleeced.
Very sad.
The Bible teaches that "you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." I tell my conservative friends the same thing everytime: If you really believe in truth, and you believe your system represents the truth, then why do you have to resort to falsehoods and slander to prove you are right? If you depend so much on lies to prove you are correct, that means either you are not for the truth, or that your system is not as good as you make it out to be, so you try to make it look like the opposite is so bad that people don't have a choice.
And Fox News/hate radio is their coaching staff and the cheerleaders.
In 1490 the vast majority of at least Europe's population liked the "fact" that the earth was flat, and that you would fall off if you sailed too far. Popularity and ratings don't mean doodles.
In regard to your analogy: Comparing someones belief based on scientific evidence or the lack thereof does not diprove the facts I have presented. Come on curiousindependent, catch up. Your falling behind!
And I can't imagine a more symbolic audience for Faux news than the Alzheimer patients parked in front of the telly in a nursing home I recently visited.
a)failed miserably in his attempt to educate you.
or
b) was an unmitigated success in proving that you are too stupid to learn.
It NEEDS Fox News/hate radio because they confirm all the false beliefs that are challenged by facts/common sense.
Fox News/hate radio is like a drug. The authoritarians NEED to watch to justify their irrational hatred and fears.
Ergo, higher ratings for shows filled with lies/disinformation.
"...But apparantly Americans like FOX more since they lead (by a large margain) all other cable news networks in the total number of viewers!!"
If you combine the sum total of viewers of CNN,HLN,MSNBC to Faux you are wrong and the data provided by bintx of Nov. is from Nielsen. You are either a child or a kook. I'll give you the benefit of doubt a say you are a child the alternative is just too scary. Now go pray for forgiveness.
"...Jake, Fox does indeed get higher ratings, but that doesn't mean that more people watch it..."
So no he was not agreeing with you.
"...But apparantly Americans like FOX more since they lead (by a large margain) all other cable news networks in the total number of viewers!!"
See the part were you wrote::
"total number of viewers!!"
Now you see the part before that:
"all other cable news networks."
You made the statement then you confused total number of viewers with ratings. Don't blame me for your confusion. You see total number of viewers is not the same as ratings which fog was trying to point out to you. Go pray on it.
oh, thats right, you don't actually have any proof to your claims. you got your info from the voices in your head.
No, I don't care about ratings.
Let's take a look at this gem of a quote from Nina Totenberg of Nazi Propaganda Radio (NPR):
"I think he [Jesse Helms] ought to be worried about what’s going on in the Good Lord’s mind, because if there is retributive justice, he’ll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will."
I'm fairly certain if Rush Limbaugh ever said that on the air he'd be executed at Victory Square.
But let's handicap you, as I like to do with the wingnuts, to make it sporting. Let's pretend that you're right, and the only outlet mentioned here is Fox.
Do you understand that if "media matters", the sources that are mentioned most at a site documenting misinformation are obviously the worst of the media ?
That's not a good way to "matter".
In case you still don't understand, imagine a site called "food matters" that listed restaurants that were most guilty of violating health codes and serving food that made people sick. If you owned a joint that was mentioned more than any other business, would you be bragging that Excremist's Bar & Grill was the only restaurant that matters ?
You're welcome.
This is another great article of Media Matter's doing nothing to prove their argument. All they are doing is disagreeing, once again, with Fox news.
hahahahahah media matters and all you liberals make me laugh. All media matters has to do is make a heading that says "Fox News Lies." And then type some excerpts from Fox News, with no evidence, and you all get on your knees and open your mouths.
For your information,
1. A judge in Virginia ruled that part of Obama's Healthcare is unconstitutional.
2. If Sestak was bribed (and no one knows what really happened), then it would have been illegal.
3. Fox was Silent about what Napolitano said because, unlike Liberal "news" outlets, Fox does not fire people simply for having different views.
All of these links that media matters provides go directly to another media matters story. If that floats your boat though then more power to ya.
hahahahaha do liberals ever disagree with eachother?
All you monsters eat this stuff up.
Assuming you read the above item, the answer to that question is:
Between your ears.
MMFA backs up their items using many different sources.
If you hate being exposed to the truth so much, why do you put yourself through the pain of visiting this site ? Just to give yourself a "thumbs up"?
Eight judges have ruled it is not.
Also, the Virgiann judges decision is already going to be overturned seeing as how he made a massive error in reasoning. also, he should have recused himself from the cases. Ask any lawyer that works in this area.
Fox did fire a bunch of people. They did it early on in their history. A servey was taken at their offices and people were weeded out. You should look it up...
But you do not seem concerned with reality or facts...
-It is illegal to do "warrant less" searchs
-it is illegal for your cell phone provider to "give" your phone records to the governemnt
-It is illegal for the US governemnt ot engage in" torture
You don't seem concerned that we went to war on lies?
The post I quoted proves the answer is a resounding "NO!"
57 states: small one-time gaffe no big deal.
"corpseman": no big deal. Everybody ahs at leats a word that they don't know how to pronounce. I myself say it like that.
"Nukular": Not a big deal, though unlike corpsman the word doesn't really sound as how its written but it can be given a pass.
"missuderestimated": Okay Bush was a dumbass. The word is a double negative and goes against what Bush was probably going to say.
And there's another odd twist in what you wrote. Given how often Beck and O'Reilly have lashed out against MMFA (Hannity not so much) it's probably a more accurate to reverse your observation and say that MMFA has been getting into their heads. How else to explain their regular foaming at the mouth reactions to a website they'll often claim that no one pay attention to?
But I agree with your idea that the die hard Fox fans will probably never change their ways (I believed you called them stupid, did you not?). Nevertheless, a service is being provided to the rest of us. MMFA allows us to know what lies are being pushed by the those clowns on that network--and allow us to be better prepared to deal with those who try to support and defend them in active, and every now and then in somewhat creatively passive ways.
1) Apparently, the quality of right-wing water-carriers has diminished, if the line of arguments I have seen here wouldn't carry a debate about which is the better color, green or yellow. What happened? Got too frustrated with being called out, and the good ones ran home to their parent's basements to cry?
2) I guess they had to condense it, but they left a TON of good examples from the 2010 campaign season. Too bad they couldn't include Beck's radio show, but there's a column in and of itself!
3) If they were this bad in 2010, I wonder how much worse they'll be in 2011? And what do you think the chances are of a 2012 Democratic election surge once the Republicans try to cut social safety net spending? I predict veto power won't be too necessary in the 2011-2012 era, but it will be used more.
I just know that the quality will keep deminishing as the 2012 election approaches.
I have not seen one convincing piece of evidence. All Media Matters does is sight themselves.
Have you ever had a debate with someone, and only cited yourself?
Why am I even asking you probably do it daily.
Thanks for your time Media Matters Monsters. By the way, I believe EVERYTHING I read on the internet.
It's always good to hear from you ever so loyal Foxbots. Post like yours continue to prove that, despite what some of your favorite, on air liars are saying, those on your side are paying attention to what's going on here.
Please join us again when you can contribute something of substance to the discussion. You may have missed it, but the topic here is the steady stream of misinformation that was pushed by Fox News in the past year. You can see, in the text of the above article, that these justified charges against them are well documented.
Joining the chorus of those who cry, "MMFA lies!" just makes you look foolish.
If you can provide something that responsibly counters the information provided, please do. Most here are eager to debate issues of substance and appreciate the thoughts and ideas from those who do not share our points of view(s). And the MMFA staff is kind enough to allow opposing viewpoints to have their say here unlike so many hard right leaning websites that will censor and ban any Progressive who dares to wander into their virtual territory and dare to offer, well, facts.
Eagerly looking forward to what you have to say in the future.
Best Regards,
The Media Matters Monsters.
It's authoritarian stream of consciousness.
I guess if Glenn Beck's incoherent babbling makes sense to a certain brain, then punctuation, paragraphs and having a point are probably considered elitist.
1. I have found the level of comment to be pretty lame here so I assume most rational people spend a little time here out of curiosity then leave out of sheer boredom. I have to admit I have been commenting here a couple of weeks and find the conversations to be pretty lame and predictable.
2. I watch MSNBC on election night because it has been so fun the last two elections to watch them quiver in shock at the shellackings. But I sure have noticed no attempt whatsoever to cover the news honestly. You could fill MMFA ten times over with the bias flowing from that news source. But then I don't think most conservatives want to spend their money setting up web sites to fight against free speech. Guys like Soro's have a vested interest in controlling and restricting free speech.
3. I don't think its a safety net I think it has become a lifestyle. When over half the country take more than they produce it is no longer a safety net.
When people are so grossly misinformed by a 24/7 propaganda machine such as Faux, as well as radio talkers on point with the lies and distortions they push, you are going to see the kind of ignorant voting that you seem proud of.
As far as the safety net: I've worked as a housemother for a homeless shelter, so I know that population. Yes there are some individuals who take advantage because of mental health/drug or alcohol demons; but many are "there but for the grace go I" folk who are trying to climb out and earn a living.
You judge this population poorly, and your poverty is not curable by any outside agency.
Heppy-Holidaze, you meandering disseminators of brain-deap crappola-stuff!
Be sure to buy goldline, and be sure to drink your Ovaltine.
I don't know if I've ever seen a more blatant example of a Ratings Queen. It actually believes that Fox is telling the truth because Fox tells it they're very popular.
But these robots believe everything MSNBC and Media Matters says.
The reason why having conversations on this site are so pointless is because there are 2 conservatives, who disagree on some things, debating with 700 robot liberals that all say the same thing.
I watch hours of Fox and can tell you they are misinforming you daily:
-death panels
-climate change
-immigrantion
-terrorism
-foreign events
-etc...
Pick any topic and they misrepresent and slant to serve GOP talking points.
Sarah Palin was discussing " Nuclear Option" in regards to Iran. She is obviously unaware that nuclear assets are primarily " Defensive". Also. I am not sure she realize that Russia, Pakistan. India, Isreal and China, who are local nuclear states, might have an issue. " Hey, everybody, I"m famous I started world was 3 " Of course she would tweet this. This is the kind of empty headed thinking that leads to alot of dead people.
Fox was wrong on the cost of the Presidentila trip to India and repeated it constantly, they never issued a retraction. The Breitbart tapes for both Acorn and Sherrod were heavily edited and misleading.they never corrected.
People at MSN BC can slant aswell, but they represent both sides evenly.Olberman and Ed complain constantly about President Obama. Olberman has praised G Bush on his work with AIDS in Africa.
Newt gets on Fox and says " President Obama is so alien to us. He is so influenced by his father's anti-colonialism" Funny weren't Americains anti-colonial???
You don't seem to be looking at Fox with a truly objective/critical eye. I think it is because they support your point of view. Maybe you should examine those beliefs and check their veracity.
Republican talking points that are not factual:
-tax cuts for wealthy create job: Economists will tell you only certain tax cuts create jobs. The cuts for the wealthy are not the proper type.
-there is alot of debate about climate change: The points of debate are not whether humans have an impact on climate,but how much of an impact and what will the result be. This about predcitive models...
-republicans are tough on nation security: well sadly this is not the historical truth: REagan ahd teh Marine Corps barrack suicide bombing in Lebanon, Bush Sr had Iraq invade Kuwait and Bush Jr had 9/11 and then two wars chasing imaginary WMDs.
-Freedom: Patriot Act made WARANTLESS searches called " sneak and peeks" totally legal.
-your cell phone information has been forwarded to FBI and the NSA. Again, totally illegal.
- G Bush redefined the legal meaning of Torture to allow water boarding and other techniques. This means that US citizens who ahve been involved can be charged in other countries with WARCRIMES.It is unlikely G Bush will travel to Western Europe anytime soon.
Again rethink your positions....
ummmmmmm, no. If you guys think that Fox gives no time to Democrats, then I do not want to know what you think about the time MSNBC gives to republicans. At least Fox has debates on their shows, not just a liberal conversation for a whole hour.
MSNBC is the same as this website. Instead of talking about current events, they talk about how evil Fox News is.
On weekday mornings from 6 to 9 pm Joe Scarborough, former Republican congressman, a signer of the Gingrich Contract with America, a man who is pro-life, and received a 95% rating from the American Conservative Union, serves as a host on MSNBC.
And just how many Democrats are hosts on Fox?
You made the suggestion that MSNBC gives little time to Republicans. Joe Scarborough gets three hours every week day.
So, again I'll ask you; just how many Democrats are hosts on Fox?
Liberals on FOX: Juan Williams, the unwatchable Sheppard Smith, Chris Wallace, Greta Van Susteren, Geraldo Rivera, Al Not So Sharpton, Doug Schoen, Pat Cadell, Lanny Davis, Alan Colmes, Kristen Powers, Mara Liasson, Bill Schulz....
One can only hope.
FEAR and UNBALANCED?Watch Fux"news"!
I will take it.
The other outlets you write of are not doing that. The Unions are not news outlets so including them in seems a bit gratuitous. If you find examples of them lying or distorting, let me know though.
We always ask for specific examples of lies and distortions by the NY Times or MSNBC or Media Matters, and have yet to see anything posted.
Cognitive disonance
Doublethink
These are the forces that drive them. Also, if you look closely they are mostly " Blind Patriots" for the rightwing. They spread and live in fear. There is always an external ideological threat.
They ignore the real threats like: climate change, patriot act, polution in general, constitutional violations , etc..
Instead they focus on: WMDs that don't exist, homophobia, family values that are supposedly "under siege", etc...
" They got you attracted to distraction. You are number and number"
" This is for those that have Spangled and Mangled the truth..."
This is such a strange, strange place