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Glenn Beck's Rhetoric Inspires More Death Threats

January 23, 2011 5:37 pm ET — 250 Comments

The New York Times recently reported that frequent Glenn Beck target Frances Fox Piven has been receiving death threats. The threats against Piven are the latest in a growing series of threats and incidents of violence linked to Beck's extremist rhetoric.

NY Times: "Spotlight From Glenn Beck Brings a CUNY Professor Threats"

NY Times: According To Piven, "Anonymous Visitors To [Beck's] Web site Have Called For Her Death." On January 21, New York Times reporter Brian Stelter wrote:

On his daily radio and television shows, Glenn Beck has elevated once-obscure conservative thinkers onto best-seller lists. Recently, he has elevated a 78-year-old liberal academic to celebrity of a different sort, in a way that some say is endangering her life.

Frances Fox Piven, a City University of New York professor, has been a primary character in Mr. Beck's warnings about a progressive take-down of America. Ms. Piven, Mr. Beck says, is responsible for a plan to "intentionally collapse our economic system."

Her name has become a kind of shorthand for "enemy" on Mr. Beck's Fox News Channel program, which is watched by more than 2 million people, and on one of his Web sites, The Blaze. This week, Mr. Beck suggested on television that she was an enemy of the Constitution.

Never mind that Ms. Piven's radical plan to help poor people was published 45 years ago, when Mr. Beck was a toddler. Anonymous visitors to his Web site have called for her death, and some, she said, have contacted her directly via e-mail.

In response, a liberal nonprofit group, the Center for Constitutional Rights, wrote to the chairman of Fox News, Roger Ailes, on Thursday to ask him to put a stop to Mr. Beck's "false accusations" about Ms. Piven.

"Mr. Beck is putting Professor Piven in actual physical danger of a violent response," the group wrote.

Fox News disagrees. Joel Cheatwood, a senior vice president, said Friday that Mr. Beck would not be ordered to stop talking about Ms. Piven on television. He said Mr. Beck had quoted her accurately and had never threatened her.

"'The Glenn Beck Program,' probably above and beyond any on television, has denounced violence repeatedly," Mr. Cheatwood said.

He said he had no knowledge of the threats against Ms. Piven, and noted that The Blaze was operated independently of Fox News. [The New York Times, 1/21/11]

Beck Regularly Demonizes Piven

Beck Suggests Piven Is "Inciting Riots" And "Asking For Violence." On the January 17 edition of his Fox News program, after reading an excerpt from a Nation article by Piven, in which she asserted that "an effective movement of the unemployed will have to look something like the strikes and riots that have spread across Greece," Beck asked: "Is that not inciting riots? Is that not asking for violence? Is this not outlining and how to make it happen?":

BECK: So let's just say we have malcontents, but she claims they're malcontents because they're unemployed. We need to gather them and we need to look at what the prisons are doing.

And she says, "Second, before the people can mobilize for collective action, they have to develop a proud and angry identity."

Now, this is where she parts ways with, let's say, the 9/12 Project that said, hey, people should get together, not necessarily those in prisons or the angry malcontents, but now, she is encouraging -- while we encourage values and principles, she says they need to develop an angry identity and a set of claims that go with that identity.

They have to go from being hurt and ashamed to being angry and indignant. Third, protesters need targets. Has she been on the Sarah Palin Web site, or is this her own doing?

"Protestors need targets, preferably local and accessible ones, making the kind of angry response to angry demands."

She goes on, "An effective movement of the employed would look something like the strikes and riots that has spread across Greece and in response to the austerity measures forced on the Greek government by the European Union, or like the student protest that recently spread with lightning speed across England in response to the prospect of greatly increased school fees.

You have it? It's not, hey, let's get together in the tea party. She's saying it should look like the video I showed you in Greece. Is that not inciting riots? Is that not asking for violence? Is this not outlining and how to make it happen?

She says, "The protests should be led by the unemployed young workers and by students who face a future of joblessness, who might just become large enough and disruptive enough to have an impact in Washington."

She closes it with this, "Shouldn't we hope for another American social movement from the bottom? And then join it."

I go back to my definition of "enemy." An enemy of the Constitution, foreign or domestic -- it is defined as one seeking to injure, overthrow or confound an opponent. All of that applies to what she is saying.

We're accused of being government-hating, but they hate the government. Government-hating, yet we cling to that Constitution. She is talking about riots, violence. There is no excuse for violence from the right or the left.

I think the tea party gets that. I haven't seen this or anybody calling for this from the right. But if they do, I reject them. [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 1/17/11, accessed via Nexis]

  • Asked by the Times to respond to this segment, Piven denied her comments amounted to a call for violence:

Ms. Piven came under additional scrutiny when she wrote in the liberal magazine The Nation this month that unemployed people should be staging mass protests.

Her assertions that "an effective movement of the unemployed will have to look something like the strikes and riots that have spread across Greece," and that "protesters need targets, preferably local and accessible ones," led Mr. Beck to ask on Fox this week, "Is that not inciting violence? Is that not asking for violence?" Videos of fires in Greece played behind him.

"That is not a call for violence," Ms. Piven said Friday of the references to riots. "There is a kind of rhetorical trick that is always used to denounce movements of ordinary people, and that is to imply that the massing of people itself is violent."

That, she said, is what Mr. Beck is doing, trying to frighten his viewers. [The New York Times, 1/21/11]

Beck: Cloward And Piven Are "Fundamentally Responsible For The Unsustainability And Possible Collapse Of Our Economic System." on the January 5, 2010, edition of his Fox News program, Beck introduced Piven and Richard Cloward, her late husband, as "the people you would say are fundamentally responsible for the unsustainability and possible collapse of our economic system." From the show:

BECK: I'm going to give you a hard concept to get your arms around: It's the concept that there are people in this country who want to intentionally collapse our economic system.

How could it be that any American would or would want to do such a thing? Well, those involved sleep just fine at night because they tell themselves that they're not collapsing, they're transforming -- transforming -- America into something better.

[...]

BECK: Now, as we discuss this, keep in mind that you're watching all of this through your eyes; you see this as trying to collapse our economy. But progressives see this as a fundamental transformation -- something better than we've ever had -- as promised by Barack Obama:

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, OCT. 30, 2008)

THEN-PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE BARACK OBAMA: We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

So, let me introduce you to the people you would say are fundamentally responsible for the unsustainability and possible collapse of our economic system: Richard Cloward and Francis Fox Piven, authors of the Cloward-Piven strategy. Something else to remember is that this isn't some conspiracy theory that we're tossing out; they wrote about collapsing the economy and how they planned to do it in the article they co-authored in the '60s called, "Mobilizing the Poor: How it Could Be Done." Six months later, it was published in The Nation, under the title "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 1/5/10]

Beck: Cloward And Piven "Want To Destroy" America. On the November 5, 2010, edition of his Fox News program, Beck asked if "people really want to destroy" America. He continued:

BECK: There are some things that we have to address as a nation. We have to try to be better. We have to learn from our mistakes -- not bury them, learn them from -- but also not exploit those mistakes.

And there are an awful of lot of people in America that would like to exploit those mistakes; equal number that would like to bury them and forget them.

But do people really want to destroy it? Well, people like Cloward and Piven do. Cloward and Piven -- you probably didn't even know who these people were, I mean, unless you were -- I mean, unless you were living in the basement of your -- if you were a progressive, maybe, a diehard progressive. Or you were living in the basement of your mom's house, you know, in your underpants eating Cheetos and going, "I'm telling you, it's Cloward and Piven." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 11/5/10]

Beck Included Cloward And Piven On His "Tree Of Radicalism And Revolution." From the September 18, 2009, edition of Glenn Beck:

Beck: The Federal Government Is "Trapping The States Into Massive Debt" Because Of "Cloward And Piven." After accusing the federal government of "trapping the states into massive debt," Beck praised Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, who he said "put it best" with his statement that "the federal government is hijacking the state budgets." Beck continued: "Why would you do that? Two words. You know them. Say it with me: Cloward and Piven. If you don't, turn that damn set off and go to the computer and look it up." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 8/11/2010]

Beck Ties "Inflation All Across The Board," Rising Gas Prices, And Food Stamps To A Cloward And Piven Plot To Collapse The System. From the November 18, 2010, edition of Glenn Beck:

BECK: You want to save your country, you have to be part of the solution, not the problem. You have to think outside of the box. We were just talking about people who live on the edge, how many millions of Americans are living on the edge.

If -- let's say oil shoots through the roof; we have $5 a gallon gasoline. That translates to inflation all across the board. People who are living on -- we already have 50 million people living on food stamps right now. If it collapses because of oil prices, how many more people need to go on to food stamps? It is Cloward and Piven. Be a shelter for your family and then if can you afford it, for others as well. [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 11/18/2010]

Beck Suggests The Left Is Cutting Police Budgets As Part Of A Cloward-Piven Strategy To Frighten People. Discussing reports that police budgets are being cut around the country, Beck questioned why those budgets were being cut "first." Beck then said:

BECK: So, in other words, if I come home and I've discovered that my house has been broken into in the middle of the night, I just walk in. I have no idea if it's safe to re-enter or anything else. Oh, wouldn't it be really great is if I didn't have a right to have a gun either 'cause I could just walk unarmed to my house in the middle of the night. And I know the police aren't coming.

That's what I like to call fear. They accuse me of fearmongering -- that's fear, America. And that's why the Second Amendment is more important than ever: your right to own a gun. If it is taken away like it is in Oakland, California, who's got the guns? Oh, yeah, that's right, the bad guys who the police aren't gonna come if they break in to your house.

We cannot break out into the Wild West. It doesn't mean go get your gun. "I got to defend everything." It doesn't mean that. It means you have a right to defend yourself. And if the bad guys know the police aren't coming, does it make it less dangerous or more dangerous for you?

The average person, I don't think -- the average person doesn't look at this and they don't understand how chaos works for radicals. It doesn't make sense to the average person to have chaos, but it does to radicals. This is happening in Oakland, the home of militant communist Van Jones and his organization Cop Watch.

Radicals, like Jones and Ayers, are always against, quote, "the pigs," as they call them. They need the unrest. They want the unrest. They want you to be afraid and have somebody to blame it on. Why?

Go back to Cloward and Piven. When chaos breaks out, people will look for anyone with an answer, anyone who will say, "I can feed you. I can protect you. I can make the madness stop." All they need are people that are frightened. If you don't have food, if you don't have money, and you don't have a way to protect yourself, who's going to do those things for you?

They're succeeding in frightening people in Oakland, Tulsa, and Norton, Mass. Let's keep an eye on the seeds that are being planted. [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 8/25/10]

Beck Ties Health Care Reform To Cloward And Piven Strategy To "Melt The System Down And Have It Collapse Into A New System." Beck claimed that by attempting to pass health care reform legislation, progressives were "building a machine" and "a cage," which he tied to "social unrest" and a Cloward and Piven strategy to "melt the system down and have it collapse into a new system":

BECK: Now, when TARP was -- they were telling everyone we had to do TARP. Congressman Brad Sherman said members of Congress were told if they didn't pass TARP, there would be martial law. Congressman Kanjorski was told that without fed intervention of electronic bank run, the world would have economic collapse and it would happen within 24 hours.

Wow! The worst is behind us. It doesn't -- it sure doesn't feel like that. And nobody but the president is really saying that.

And what I'd like to know is what are members of Congress being told if what -- what's going to happen if we don't pass health care. Whether health care is stopped or not, please consider the possibility that world finance as we know it is going to reset. It has to reset. And anybody with half a brain, any -- the president of the United States knows this -- this bill is the centerpiece of the progressive structure.

You know how I've said they're building a machine and you don't want this thing to pass because it's a framework. Quite honestly, and I know progressive will beat me up for this, but stand in line, they're building a cage -- a cage. Social unrest -- a cage. They are preparing.

Remember, what we said, Cloward and Piven is to melt the system down and have it collapse into a new system. This is not just about health care. It's about grab all the education dollars as well.

We'll show you a video in a few minutes that you've never seen. This is a long-term strategy. Someone has to be standing when the evil capitalism finally fails us.

Well, I got news for you, gang. I'm going to be standing. Please be standing as well. Shore yourself up! Don't allow yourself to become or your state to become a slave to what's being built in Washington.

This is exactly what happened in the Soviet Union. And the Soviet Union collapsing bothered me so much for a long time. It took me a while to figure it out.

Nobody ever talks about this. I want you to look something up. See, the leaders of the Soviet Union saw the writing on the wall. They knew. They knew it was going to collapse.

We knew! We were spending them into oblivion. What do you think we were doing it for? We knew. They did, too. [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 3/18/2010, via Nexis]

Beck Connects Piven To "Intentionally Trying To Collapse The Dollar." From the October 21, 2009, edition of Glenn Beck:

BECK: You know, I've been for a while now trying to figure out how we're going to pay for all this spending and how could anybody be for all this spending, the $871 billion over 10 years for health care.

Come on, Nancy, bring it on. It's under $900 billion. There she is. That's a big picture of her. Under $900 billion. How do you pay for that? By the way, that's 10 years of paying for it, five years of coverage.

You know, maybe their calculator is broken. Maybe they were all sick when they taught math every day in school. Maybe she believes in magic gnomes riding on unicorns, riding in and paying off the debt. Or maybe, maybe, they just think they can print more money.

You know, we need more money, and just keep printing it over and over again. Maybe they all believe in Cloward and Piven and they're intentionally trying to collapse the dollar. Oops, did I say that out loud?

It doesn't matter, because you can't pay it off. You cannot pay this off, because that's not what it is going to cost. Look, we are worried about health care. I have had a problem in the hospital, what, two years ago. It stunk on ice. But this isn't going to fix it, because when we did the health care, this is our national debt.

This is insane. $343,724 -- that's -- every citizen owes that. Are you getting a super neat job at -- what, the 7 Eleven? How are you going to do that? We are setting up a situation where our kids will have nothing.

The possibility now of a second stimulus, add more spending like health care, cap and trade. Some economists fear the dollar could collapse. Oh, well. Do you even know what that means, the dollar could collapse? [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 10/21/09, via Nexis]

Palin Agrees With Beck's Cloward And Piven Conspiracy That "They're Intentionally Trying To Spend Us Into Oblivion." From the January 13, 2010, edition of Glenn Beck:

BECK: Have you seen the case that I've made on Cloward and Piven and they're intentionally trying to spend us into oblivion.

PALIN: Yes.

BECK: Do you believe it?

PALIN: I do. I do believe it, because again, Glenn, we can't be so stupid as to see these common sense solutions -- hey, government, quit thinking that the health care solution is for the government to take it over and run a system better than the private sector system. We see something like that, we scratch our heads and say, "Well, what are we missing?" It's a ridiculous notion that the White House has to take over health care and think that they can run it better.

We cannot be missing something so blatantly. It has to be purposeful what they are doing. Otherwise -- otherwise I would say, Glenn, that there is no hope, that there are no solutions. [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 1/13/10, via Nexis]

Beck Hosts Author To Tie Obama To Supposed Cloward And Piven Conspiracy. On the December 20, 2010, edition of his Fox News program, Beck hosted author Stanley Kurtz to discuss how President Obama has supposedly been influenced by Cloward and Piven:

BECK: They were a pair of Columbia University professors, married couple who developed a revolutionary technique in 1960s to force political change that is still being used in this country today in a massive way. Their mission: flood the system with impossible demands so the system will collapse and a new one can form.

Stanley Kurtz writes a great deal about Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven in his new book "Radical-in-Chief," and explains their strategy and influence on our country and our president now.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

STANLEY KURTZ, AUTHOR, "RADICAL-IN-CHIEF": Around 1966, Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven met with a civil rights activist named George Wiley and created the National Welfare Rights Organization.

The idea was to flood welfare office with so many recipients asking for payments that they would effectively break the bank of state and local welfare systems. They wanted to have as many riotists and violent protests as they possibly could. You scare politicians into thinking, man, we've got to do something to placate these people.

In fact, Wade Rathke, who went on to head ACORN was an organizer for the National Welfare Rights Organization and he was involved in some of their most violent protests.

Cloward and Piven actually created their strategy based on a very careful study that they did of American Communist Party organizing tactics and strategy in the 1930s. Communist organizers were trying to spark a revolution. That revolution failed.

But in the mind of Cloward and Piven, what succeeded was that these violent tactics scared American public officials into increasing their welfare payments.

Now, how did all of this influence Barack Obama? When Barack Obama lived in New York City between about 1983 and 1985, he attended a series of socialist scholars conferences. And those conferences are where Barack Obama first learned about community organizing.

Those conferences changed Barack Obama's life. They made him embraced this whole career and vocation of community organizing. And they taught him all of these socialists strategies.

We know that Obama, for example, attended a very important socialist scholars conference at the Cooper Union in New York in 1983. That conference was addressed by Frances Fox Piven. He would have heard her again in 1984. If he attended the conference in 1985, which he quite possibly did, Piven would have been there.

So, Obama would have had many, many opportunities to learn about Cloward and Piven and their theories.

On the one hand, we know that Obama has immensely increased the American welfare state, immensely increased American entitlements through, of course, the health care legislation.

Now, I don't believe that the Obama administration is aiming to create a financial and economic crisis right now. Obama doesn't want to create economic crisis on his own watch because he would be held responsible. He would be politically punished.

But I do think that Obama is flirting with a fiscal crisis in order to heed the country toward a larger welfare state in order to expand taxation perhaps through a value-added tax, as we see in Europe. He's walking a fine line. [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 12/20/10, via Nexis]

"Violence Is Coming": Beck Has A Long History Of Spewing Violent Rhetoric

Beck: "You're Going To Have To Shoot Them In The Head." On the June 9, 2010, edition of his Fox News program, during a long monologue about "Communist revolutionaries" that are trying to take over the Democratic Party, Beck said:

BECK: The media and the politician have all of this wrong. In every single walk of life -- you want to know why TV doesn't reflect you? You want to know why Washington doesn't reflect you? Because they don't understand, from the radical revolutionaries to the Islamic extremists -- and yes, DOJ, they do exist -- to the Tea Party movements.

Just because you in Washington and you who are so out of touch with life in the media, just because you don't believe in anything doesn't mean nobody else does. We do. You know why you're confused by this show? It's because I believe in something. You don't.

Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.

I will stand against you and so will millions of others. We believe in something. You in the media and most in Washington don't. The radicals that you and Washington have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing -- change the pose. You'll get the ends.

You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for revolution -- revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.

They're dangerous because they believe. Karl Marx is their George Washington. You will never change their mind. And if they feel you have lied to them -- they're revolutionaries. Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about. [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 6/9/10]

  • Responding to recent controversy over these remarks, Beck said on January 21:

BECK: If you look at the full video, or if you read the transcript ... you'll see that the word "you" refers to the leftist politicians in Washington and the people in the media on the left; and the "them," "they" refers to radical leftists friends. In this clip, I am warning that they, the revolutionaries, that have been co-opted by the politicians and the media, they actually believe and have called for a violent revolution. They believe it. And I was warning last summer, if you don't -- if they feel betrayed, if they feel like you've been lying to them, you've been using them, they'll kill you. They'll kill you because they believe in something.

STU BURGUIERE (producer): And we know that because they've said it in their own words.

BECK: Yes. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 1/21/11]

Beck Pours Gasoline On "Average American," Asks: "President Obama, Why Don't You Just Set Us On Fire?" On his television show, Beck claimed to be imitating Obama while pouring liquid from a gasoline can -- which he later stated was water -- on an actor portraying the "average American." Beck said during his demonstration: "President Obama, why don't you just set us on fire? ... We didn't vote to lose the republic." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 4/9/09]

Beck Turns To Violent Rhetoric In Discussing Flu Vaccine: "Meet Mr. Smith And Mr. Wesson." On his radio show, Beck developed a hypothetical scenario in which the government would consider taking his children because he refused to have them receive a mandatory flu vaccine. Beck explained to the audience that his response to the government showing up at his house to take his kids would be, "Meet Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson," a reference to the gun manufacturer. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 10/15/10]

Quoting Jefferson, Beck Warns About "Rivers Of Blood." On his Fox News show, Beck quoted a letter by Thomas Jefferson warning that " 'if they lose freedom' -- he's speaking of us, future generations -- 'if they lose freedom, there will be rivers of blood.' " Beck continued in his own words, "Boy, I hope that's not true, but I can tell you there will be rivers of blood if we don't have values and principles." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 5/14/10]

Beck: "To The Day I Die, I Am Going To Be A Progressive Hunter." Telling his listeners that they "are going to learn so much on Friday," Beck compared himself to "Israeli Nazi hunters" and commented: "I'm telling you, I'm going to find these big progressives and, to the day I die, I'm going to be a progressive hunter." He added:

BECK: I'm going to find these people that have done this to our -- you know, to our country, and expose them. I don't care where -- I don't care if they're in nursing homes. I'm going to expose what they have done and make sure that the people understand, because our Constitution, our republic -- if it survives -- it will only survive because the people are waking up and through the grace of God, because we are that close to losing our republic. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 1/20/10]

Ranting That Gov't Under Nixon "Wasn't As Corrupt As It Is Now," Beck Suggests Obama Administration Might Kill "10 Percent" Of Population. On his June 10, 2010, show, Beck warned that "anarchists, Marxists, communists, revolutionaries, Maoists" have to "eliminate 10 percent of the U.S. population" in order to "gain control." They couldn't achieve such a goal when Richard Nixon was president, Beck stated, because "the family was together" and the government under Nixon "wasn't as corrupt as it is now." Beck added: "Now they can. Now they can." Beck later played a clip of an FBI agent who infiltrated the Weather Underground and warned about extremists who want to kill people. Beck responded to the clip by stating: "These are the same people that are everywhere in our government and our education system. Please, please. Learn from history. Please." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 6/10/10]

Beck Portrays Obama, Democrats As Vampires, Suggests "Driv[ing] A Stake Through The Heart Of The Bloodsuckers." On his March 30, 2009, Fox News show, Beck aired a graphic portraying Obama and Democrats as vampires and said: "The government is full of vampires, and they are trying to suck the lifeblood out of the economy." Beck then suggested "driv[ing] a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 3/30/09]

Beck: Progressives Are "Vampires" Who Will Become "More and More Violent." On his radio show, Beck warned listeners that progressives are "vampires" who now have a "taste of blood" and are "gonna start getting more and more violent." [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 1/19/10]

Beck Talks About "Put[ting] Poison" In Pelosi's Wine. In 2009, Beck's Fox News show featured a segment in which Beck said the following to a woman wearing a mask of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi:

BECK: So, Speaker Pelosi, I just wanted to -- you gonna drink your wine? Are you blind? Do those eyes not work? There you -- I want you to drink it now. Drink it. Drink it. Drink it.

I really just wanted to thank you for having me over here to wine country. You know, to be invited, I thought I had to be a major Democratic donor or a longtime friend of yours, which I'm not.

By the way, I put poison in your -- no, I -- I look forward to all the policy discussions that we're supposed to have -- you know, on health care, energy reform, and the economy. [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 8/6/09]

Beck: "Grab A Torch." Asserting that politicians are addicted to spending, Beck stated: "When do we ever run those who are bankrupting our country and literally stealing our children's future out of town? Grab a torch." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 1/6/10]

Beck Suggests That Progressives Support "Armed Insurrection." After President Obama signed health care reform legislation into law, Beck suggested that progressives support "armed insurrection" and asked, "Why would the president take up immigration right away, after he's just punched you in the face with health care?" [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 3/23/10]

Beck Suggests Pelosi and Obama Support "Pick[ing] Up A Gun" To Advance "Revolution." Beck also said that "violence is the wrong way to go," but asked his viewers: "You'd pick up a gun? Have you ever thought of that?" He then pointed to several pictures, including images of Obama and Pelosi, and stated: "These people have. Because possibly, maybe the question should be asked, maybe they're tired of evolution, and maybe they are waiting for revolution." Beck also said: "Haven't we just been spanked? Hasn't most of the country -- doesn't most of the country feel like they've been spanked over health care? You bet. I do, you do. A lot of people do." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 3/23/10]

Beck Suggests Obama Administration May Kill Him. Beck said: "For those of you in the administration, who are coming after me ... remember, you've broken three [of the 10 Commandments], let's not make it four; thou shalt not kill." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 3/23/10]

Beck: "The Revolution Of 1776 Was A Picnic Compared To What The Revolutionaries Of Today Would Like To Do. ... Usually, Millions Of People Die." While discussing "radicals" in the country, Beck told his audience: "Here's what you'll learn. The revolution of 1776 was a picnic compared to what the revolutionaries of today would like to do. It's not a lot of fun. Usually, millions of people die." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 6/9/10]

Beck Suggests Progressive Coalition Will Become Violent And Riot "A Year From Now." On his Fox News program, while discussing how progressives are supposedly trying to "nudge" the United States towards "global governance," Beck said that "violence is a part of the overall strategy." While discussing a coalition of unions and progressive groups that were planning a march in Washington, D.C., Beck said that he believes the march will be "peaceful," but suggested that "a year from now" there may be violence and riots "when the cuts take place." Beck also proclaimed that the Democrats have been "infected with the tree of revolution" and "radicals" who are a "danger to our republic." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 9/14/10]

Beck Connects U.S. Progressives To The Holocaust, Says They "Have Not Changed Their Viewpoint." Beck announced that "if you don't know your history, you are doomed to repeat it" and went on to link several U.S. progressives to eugenics and the Holocaust. He proceeded to say that progressives "have not changed their viewpoint; they've only changed their language." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 8/3/10]

Beck: After Election, "Our Streets Will Not Be Peaceful" Due To Progressives "Agitating." Discussing the November 2010 elections, Beck told his viewers that "activists" were "about to go back to agitating, because once they lose control of the House, they have to." After encouraging people to vote, Beck said that after the election, "our streets will not be peaceful. They will start protesting and agitating again." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 9/30/10]

Beck Warned That "In The End, In Revolutions, Real Dangerous Killers Show Up When Things Start To Fall Apart." Discussing how the government is "growing out of control," Beck attacked former White House green jobs adviser Van Jones and "the government" for using "fear tactics." Beck told listeners that he "told you this would happen" and added that "I told you just last week that I believe these are the most dangerous two years of our republic. Because in the end, in revolutions, the real dangerous killers show up when things start to fall apart. When the nudge moves to shove, and the shove doesn't work, the killers show up. It happens every time. That's why we must be united for peace, we must be united with love, we must be united with God." [The Glenn Beck Program, 9/27/10]

Beck: "Violence Will Come. And Violence Will Come From The Left. Violence Is Part Of The Plan." Beck warned listeners that "if you don't think violence is coming, I'm going to share some audio of Frances Fox Piven that will boggle your mind." Beck said that "they don't mind violence. Violence will come. And violence will come from the left. Violence is part of the plan. Not mine, not yours." [The Glenn Beck Program, 9/13/10]

Beck On Progressives: When The "Soft Revolution" Fails, They "Just Start Shooting People." Beck claimed that progressives are engaging in a "soft revolution" designed to silence voices like his. He added: "If somebody starts to turn on them, or they can't get everyone to silence, that's when the arrests come, or that's when they start a hard revolution. That's when they start just shooting people. I hope we don't get to that point. I pray that we don't get to that point, but I never thought this country would get to the point where we are today." [The Glenn Beck Program, 5/27/10]

Beck Warns Of Violence: "Trouble" By The "Most Violent" Progressives "Is Coming." Beck suggested that Obama would respond to potential GOP victories in November elections by "going right directly" to the "most progressive, most violent, the worst of the worst on the left and stir 'em up. 'Get out into the streets. Cause trouble.' It's what's coming. It's what's coming." [The Glenn Beck Program, 9/24/10]

Beck: "Violence Is Coming" And "The Left Will Blame Me." Beck said that people need to "wake up" and see "what is coming," which Beck described as "violence." He added that "the left will blame me." [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 8/2/10]

Beck: "God Will Wash This Nation With Blood If He Has To, But He Doesn't Have To." Referencing Lincoln's second inaugural address, Beck said that "God will wash this nation with blood if he has to, but he doesn't have to." Beck added that "we are passing all of the exits. Gang, there is one exit left. There is one exit left, and it is God. Everything that is coming our way is too big to handle on our own. If we do not put God at the center of our own personal lives and the center of our country, we will not survive. The country will be washed with blood and then someone will have to start over, and God only knows how long that takes." [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 8/25/10]

Beck Warns Of "Revolutionaries" Who Will "Set Our Streets On Fire." Urging people to vote in the November elections, Beck said that "in the short term" this election is "going to make things worse" because "revolutionaries" are going to "rise up" and "set our streets on fire." He added that "our future is at stake right now." [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 9/16/10]

Beck: "The Army ... Of The Extreme Left Is Gathering" And They Are Saying "Cops Are Bad, Kill The Cops." On his radio show, Beck discussed riots in Oakland, stating: "The army, if you will, of the extreme left is gathering, and they are coming to the conclusion of cops are bad, kill the cops, they're the oppressors. It's all the 1960s, you know, pig stuff. It's the same stuff." [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 7/12/10]

Beck: "This Game Is For Keeps"; "[Y]ou Can Shoot Me In The Head ... But There Will Be 10 Others That Line Up." Asking his audience to "pray for protection," Beck claimed that "the most powerful people on the planet on the left" were "not going to go away easy" because "[t]his game is for keeps. This is who controls the United States of America and its destiny." He asked his listeners to "please keep me in your prayers, keep my staff in your prayers, for safety, for wisdom," adding, "Just pray for protection, please."

Later in the same program, Beck said:

BECK: You can try to put the lid on this group of people, but you will never silence us. You will never -- you can shoot me in the head, you can shoot the next guy in the head, but there will be 10 others that line up. And it may not happen today, it may not happen next week, but freedom will be restored in this land. Period. And no matter what you want to call it, it is a totalitarian state that you're headed towards. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 9/8/09 and 9/8/09]

Beck: "[Y]ou Will Have To Shoot Me In The Forehead Before You Take Away My Gun" And "Before I Acquiesce And Be Silent." Beck has warned "ACORN, GE, Obama, SEIU" that "you are awakening a sleeping giant, and I have nothing to do with it," and that "America is waking up. You know the American Revolution took place with 12 percent of the population? Twelve. Are you telling me there is not 30 percent of this population that you will have to shoot me in the forehead before I let somebody into my house to tell me how to raise my children; you will have to shoot me in the forehead before you take away my gun; you will have to shoot me in the forehead before I acquiesce and be silent." Beck further stated:

BECK: They cannot move on these things, because they are building a machine that will crush the entrepreneurial spirit and the freedom that our Founding Fathers designed. This machine, whatever it is they are building, will crush it. Do not let them build another piece.

So while I turn away, I want to make sure that I have at least 10 million eyes watching -- watching every single move they are making.

[...]

We know why they're doing what they're doing. You need to do what you need to do, and as long as that is peaceful, we will save our country. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 7/30/09]

Beck Suggests Obama Is "Trying To Destroy The Country" And Is Pushing America Toward Civil War. While discussing the ongoing controversy over Arizona's immigration law, Beck told his listeners that "we are being pushed" toward civil war and that Obama is "trying to destroy the country." [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 5/19/10]

Beck: "There Is A Coup Going On. There Is A Stealing Of America." Beck has claimed that "there is a revolution, and they think they can get away with it quietly," adding: "At this point, gang, I'm not sure, they may be able to because they are so far ahead of us. They know what they're dealing against; most of America does not yet. Most of America doesn't have a clue as to what's going on. There is a coup going on. There is a stealing of America, and the way it is done, it has been done through the -- the guise of an election, but they lied to us the entire time." He also said, "And they're gonna say, 'we did it democratically,' and they are going to grab power every way they can. And God help us in an emergency." [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 8/31/09]

Beck: "There Are Those People That Really Want This To Collapse, And They Are Planning On Violence." Referencing a speech he had given the previous weekend in Alaska, Beck discussed how he told the audience that "you are Fort Knox." He explained that if the economy collapses, Alaskans must "grab your guns" because "the Russians, the Chinese -- everyone is coming to Alaska, because that's where the money is. Now, that's not begging for World War III; that's called giving you the facts. But see, there are those people that really want this to collapse, and they are planning on violence. They're planning on it -- we've already shown you. We've already seen it with SEIU. We've shown it to you over in Europe." [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 9/13/10]

Beck Says His Audience Contains "The Leaders Of Tomorrow" Who Will Save You From "Camps, Maybe Literally." Referencing an event he appeared at the previous weekend with Sarah Palin, Beck said that they have "30 million people in our footprint." Beck explained that "this 10 percent is going to be the shelter for the other 90 percent." He added: "This is the group, this 10 percent will be the ones that when all hell goes to handbasket, and everybody on the left and the right are yelling and arguing and trying to pull you into camps, maybe literally, pull you into camps. You're gonna say 'Don't go, don't go, everything's fine. Don't worry, we can take care of each other. We've got each other, we're Americans, we're better than this.' " [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 9/13/10]

Beck: "They're Trying To Beat It Out Of You Slowly. Boil You, Basically, Like A Frog." After agreeing with a caller who suggested we should "collapse the Federal Reserve" and "build it back up," Beck said that the government already "started planning for the next phase, and the next phase is a global governance sort of situation." Discussing how people should prepare for a global collapse, Beck added that "people are not going to go peacefully into the night if it is a quick collapse." Beck said that "the fear here is that they already have the structure to box you in. They don't come with the jackbooted thugs on the first day. They come and take away your sugary sweets. They come and take away your right to go to the beach and dig in the sand. They come and they watch your credit cards. ... They're trying to beat it out of you slowly. Boil you, basically, like a frog. I think we win. I think we win if things remain stable, but a power grab is a possibility in this crazy upside-down America that we live in." [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 9/21/10]

Beck: "I Don't Know How Much Time Each Of Us Has. I Don't Know How Much Time The Country Has." Beck "beg[ged]" his listeners to "please give me the benefit of the doubt," and said:

BECK: I'm begging you to get back down on your knees. I'm begging you to be the person that you were and you promised yourself you would be on September 11th and 12th. I'm begging you to get down on your knees. What is coming is not good. I don't know how things end. I should rephrase that. I do know how things end. But I know how things end after a long struggle. I don't know how that struggle is gonna work out. I don't know how much time each of us has. I don't know how much time the country has. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 8/25/10]

Beck: Obama Administration Is "Poking" At "People Who Have A Record Of Violence" And "Stirring Up Trouble." Discussing how Obama had criticized people on the left on the same day that cuts were announced to food stamp programs, Beck speculated that the administration was "poking" the left the same way that he "poked" the tea parties. He added that this "makes Barack Obama look like he's more centrist. But also, you're poking people who have a record of violence and taking to the streets and stirring up trouble. Hmm. I wonder if there's anything there." [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 8/11/10]

Beck's Advice To Liberty Grads: "Shoot To Kill." During his May 15 commencement speech at Liberty University, Beck told graduates that they "have a responsibility" to speak out, or "blood ... will be on our hands." His advice for graduates (as well as his daughter) included "shoot to kill." [Glenn Beck, Commencement Address At Liberty University, 5/15/10 and 5/15/10]

Beck: "I Fear A Reichstag Moment, A -- God Forbid -- Another 9-11, Something That Will Turn This Machine On." During an interview with Newsmax.com in which he discussed opposition to Obama's Federal Communications Commission policies, Beck said: "I fear an event. I fear a Reichstag moment, a -- God forbid -- another 9-11, something that will turn this machine on, and power will be seized and voices will be silenced. God help us all.'' [Newsmax.com, 10/7/09]

Beck's Rhetoric Has Previously Been Linked To Violence And Death Threats

Williams Wanted To "Start A Revolution" By "Killing People Of Importance At The Tides Foundation." On July 18, 2010, Byron Williams, a convicted felon, engaged in a shootout with police after being pulled over on I-580 in California. Williams was heavily armed, wearing body armor and wielding "a 9mm handgun, a .308-caliber rifle and a shotgun." After being taken into custody, Williams reportedly told investigators that "his intention was to start a revolution by traveling to San Francisco and killing people of importance at the Tides Foundation and the ACLU." [San Francisco Chronicle, 7/21/10]

Williams' Mother: Son "Was Upset" With "The Way Congress Was Railroading Through All These Left-Wing Agenda Items." The San Francisco Chronicle also reported that Williams' mother, Janice Williams, described her son as "angry at left-wing politicians" and at "what's happening to our country." The Chronicle further reported: "Williams watched the news on television and was upset by 'the way Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items,' his mother said." [San Francisco Chronicle, 7/19/10]

Williams: "The Things" Beck Exposed "Blew My Mind." During an interview with reporter John Hamilton after his arrest, Williams said: "I would have never started watching Fox News if it wasn't for the fact that Beck was on there. And it was the things that he did, it was the things he exposed that blew my mind. I said, well, nobody does this." Williams continued: "You need to go back to June -- June of this year, 2010 -- and look at all his programs from June. And you'll see he's been breaking open some of the most hideous corruption. ... A year ago, I was watching him, and it was OK, he was all right, you know? ... But now he's getting it." [Media Matters, 10/11/10]

Williams Was Driven By Belief In Conspiracy Theories That Have Been Pushed By Beck. Hamilton noted that in one letter to him, Williams "repeatedly cites Beck when discussing the Soros-Obama-Petrobras story and insists I check out Beck's 'June' shows." Hamilton continued:

In his letter to me, Byron writes: "I have been praying for a media advocate; one, to make people aware of why I'm in here (public opinion could help me), and two, to make people realize that corrupt killers are in power, and want re-election! I was also fearful that this issue would be 'burried.' "

Byron writes, "You want to know about Soros and Tides, yes, Glenn Beck is doing very well uncovering his wickedness, check his 'June' programs for 'Petrobraz', also look into 'DiscoverTheNetworks.com.' "

Byron also writes that "very good information regarding 'Petrobraz' can be found in Glenn Beck's 'June' shows, where he accurately covered the Obama-Soros-Petrobraz-Chicago (Crime Inc.) connections for several days. It's all true."

Byron adds that he "found allusions to the Horizon disaster as a 'false-flag' operation in Alex Jones 'Info.Wars.com' and 'PrisonPlanet.com.' "

"Think like a conspiracy theorist," Byron tells me during the interview. "Except don't use the word 'theory.' Because the conspiracies are not theories. The official report is the lie; the conspiracy is the truth."

Byron says he thinks Beck has improved in recent months. "I don't think he's a natural newscaster, you know what I mean?" he says. "I look at it more like a schoolteacher on TV, you know? He's got that big chalkboard and those little stickers, the decals. I like the way he does it." [Media Matters, 10/11/10]

Williams On Beck: He Denies "Violent Approach" and "Conspiracies" To "Protect Himself. ... I Understand What He's Doing." In his interview with Hamilton, Williams also said that "Beck is gonna deny everything about violent approach and deny everything about conspiracies, but he'll give you every reason to believe it. He's protecting himself, and you can't blame him for that. So, I understand what he's doing." Williams continued:

"And I'd say, well, you know, that's the thing. It's that anything you do is going to be considered promoting terror attacks or promoting violence. So now they've got Beck labeled as this guy that is trying to incite violence. And what I say is that if the truth incites violence, it means that we've been living too long in the lies.

"Because it's gonna be too many -- it's gonna be more and more people that are, you know -- when you become unemployed, desperate, you can no longer pay your bills, when your society has come to a standstill, and cannot grow anymore, you're becoming socialized, everything, you know -- companies are moving overseas, what do you think is gonna happen? You know, for crying out loud. It's gonna get worse. And more and more people are gonna get desperate." [Media Matters, 10/11/10]

Beck Linked With Stoking "Fears" That Caused Charles Wilson To Threaten Murray

Wilson Sentenced For Threats Against Sen. Patty Murray. In October 2010, Charles Alan Wilson was sentenced to a year and a day in prison for threatening Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) with "violence" in phone calls to her office. [The Seattle Times, 10/22/10]

Wilson Said He "Want[ed] To [Expletive] Kill" Murray Because Of The Passage Of Health Care Legislation. In an April 6 article, Politico reported that Wilson "allegedly called Murray's office on numerous occasions" saying that she " 'had a target on her back,' and 'I want to [expletive] kill you,' according to court documents." Politico also reported that Wilson "allegedly told undercover FBI agents that he carries a concealed firearm with a permit, and said he was 'extremely angry' with the passage of health care legislation." The article continued:

On March 23, the day President Barack Obama signed the health care reform bill into law, the caller said, "I hope somebody kills you, and I hope somebody kills [the president]. Yes, die, dead."

"Not only do I say, 'Kill the Bill' I say: Kill the [expletive] senator," the caller said.

When the FBI reviewed phone records for Murray's office, it found Wilson's number appearing several times, with some calls made as early as 4:34 in the morning, according to court papers.

On April 1, an agent called Wilson's home number posing as a representative of "Patients United Now," a group that was "ostensibly" attempting to have the health care reform law repealed.

In the course of the phone call, Wilson allegedly told the officer that he regularly called Murray and Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.).

According to the documents, two other phrases in that conversation convinced the FBI that Wilson was man who had left the stream of threatening voicemails: He called Murray and Cantwell "Pike Street whores" and called Murray "sneaker shoes Murray" -- both phrases captured when he allegedly called the senator's office from a blocked number. The man who made the phone calls also said "they need to be strung up, and I mean put [in] the gallows" adding that "they want to come throw me in jail, they can go ahead and do that. that's fine."

The caller also mentioned that he was registered to carry a concealed weapon.

"I do pack," court documents say Wilson told the FBI agent -- a term that refers to carrying a gun. "And I will not blink...when I'm confronted, and that is a guarantee. It's not a threat, it's a guarantee." [Politico, 4/6/10]

Wilson To Murray: "Kill The Fucking Senator! ... Now That You've Passed Your Health-Care Bill, Let The Violence Begin." In court documents, federal prosecutors pointed to several voicemail messages Wilson left for Murray that raised "serious concerns," including:

"Just remember that as you are politicing for your reelection. It only takes one piece of lead. ... Kill the fucking Senator! Kill the fucking Senator! I'll donate the lead. ... Now that you've passed your health-care bill, let the violence begin. Let the violence begin."

"By your attempts to overtake this country with socialism, somebody's gonna get to you one way or another and blow your fucking brains out, and I hope it does happen. If I have the chance, I would do it."

"Kill the fucking Senator! Hang the fucking Senator! I hope somebody puts a fucking bullet between your fucking eyes. Far left liberal socialist democratic bitch. You mother-fucker. You sold the fucking people of the country out for socialism. I hope somebody fucking erasers your fucking life. Yes, I hope somebody assassinates you, you fucking bitch."

"We are going to fuck you up. We are going to fuck you up as bad as we can. Yes, the independents. The real people of this country, not you spineless fucking socialists. You better watch your fucking back, baby, because there's people gonna come after you with fucking both fucking barrels, bitch." [Media Matters, 10/28/10]

Relative: Wilson's Threats Occurred Because He "Was Under The Spell That Glenn Beck Cast." In a September 17 letter, Wilson's cousin wrote:

What happened later with Charlie is something I think I can understand. He became basically housebound due to illness and his small world became even smaller. His brother got him a computer and he was able to stay connected with family. And he watched television and found Glenn Beck... I found Glenn Beck about the same time Charlie did. I understand how his fears were grown and fostered by Mr. Beck's persuasive personality. The same thing happened to me but I went in a different direction with what I was seeing. Rather than blame politicians for the current issues, I simply got prepared for what Glenn said was coming. I slowly filled our pantry as Glenn fed fear into me. I did not miss watching his show and could not understand why the rest of the world didn't get it -- Glenn became a pariah to me. But I was finally able to step away and realize the error of my ways. The media lost its grip on me. But it still held very tightly to Charlie.

While his actions were undeniably wrong and his choices were terrible, in part they were the actions of others played out by a very gullible Charlie. He was under the spell that Glenn Beck cast, aided by the turbulent times in our economy. I don't believe that Charlie even had the ability to actually carry out his threats. [Media Matters, 10/28/10]

Self-Described "Militia Leader" Kenneth Kimbley Reportedly Idolized Beck

Kenneth Kimbley Jr. Pleaded Guilty To Federal Gun Charges. The Spokesman Review of Spokane, Washington, reported in November 2010 that "self-described militia leader" Kenneth B. Kimbley Jr. pleaded guilty to federal gun charges connected to a grenade manufacturing operation at his trailer in Idaho:

A self-described militia leader pleaded guilty this week to federal gun charges connected to a grenade manufacturing operation at his trailer in Spirit Lake, Idaho.

Kenneth B. Kimbley Jr., 58, discussed bombing local bridges with an undercover federal agent and made threatening statements toward President Barack Obama, leading investigators last July to seize 20,000 ammunition rounds and several firearms from Kimbley's property, where he and other suspected militia members gathered to construct grenades, according to court documents. [The Spokesman Review, 11/23/10]

Kimbley's Public Defender: Beck Is Kimbley's "Idol." In publicly available court documents, Kimbley's public defender based her defense on the fact that "everything said by Mr. Kimbley is no different than" what Beck regularly says on air:

His public defender, Kim Deater, did not return a phone call seeking comment. In court documents, she described Kimbley as a nonthreatening man who has passionate political views.

Though prosecutors have emphasized his militia ties and his dislike for Obama, Kimbley "made absolutely no threats to harm anyone at anytime," Deater wrote in court documents.

"In fact, everything said by Mr. Kimbley is no different than what his idol, TV commentator Glenn Beck, typically states on the air and is protected free speech."

Deater writes that though Kimbley was "frequently baited" by an undercover agent, he and his friends "simply discussed their concerns of a communist takeover and the need to be prepared to defend themselves and the country if in fact a takeover occurred." [The Spokesman Review, 11/23/10]

Officials At League of Women Voters Received Death Threats, Linked Them To Beck Rhetoric

Debate Organizer, Moderator Report Increase In Hateful Calls And Emails After Being Attacked By Beck. In October 2010, the moderator and organizer of an Illinois congressional debate reported receiving aggressive calls and emails, including death threats, for refusing a request to say the Pledge of Allegiance at the beginning of the debate. Both the moderator and the organizer told Media Matters that there was an increase in hateful calls and emails after Beck attacked them by name on the October 25, 2010, edition of his Fox News Show. [Media Matters, 10/28/10]

Beck On League Of Women Voters Officials: They Are "Almost Like In Bed With George Soros." During the October 25, 2010, edition of his Fox News show, Beck said that the two women are "almost like in bed with George Soros":

BECK: We wanted to look at the moderator, Kathy Tate-Bradish, from the League of Women Voters. Oh, she sounds so neutral and everything. I mean, she's even neutral on the Pledge, apparently -- just a typical woman voter trying to get the truth out. No, not so much -- not so much.

She is on fire for Obama. She is a big-time Obama supporter. In fact, so much so, she's part of his Organizing for America arm. Hmm.

She's even hosted campaign event in her home in 2007, part of her post on OFA's, Organizing for America Web site, "Hope Action Change": "On March 31st, people across America open their homes to friends, families, neighbors, to kick off a week of support for a movement for Barack Obama and the movement to change America."

That's great. I didn't know that change was, you know, meant to abandon the Pledge, but hey.

Now, what about czar -- Jan Czarnik -- just another regular woman voter from the League of Women Voters. Well -- and she also worked with ACORN's Project Vote, which is funded by Tides, and Soros, his Democracy Alliance, which she also worked with progressive people for the American Way, which is a group that recently joined Tides to call for the advertisers to stop advertising on FOX because of this program, which is also funded by George Soros. It's weird, isn't it?

They're so neutral that it's almost like they're not. They're so neutral that they're almost like in bed with George Soros of Tides.

America, I mean, all you have to do -- all of this stuff can be found. It's not hidden. It's not hidden. It's all the same people.

You are being duped. You got to get out and flood the voting booths next week. Do your own homework.

Don't take my word for it. Don't take the League of Women Voters. Ooh! Really? I'll add that to my list of people that I don't trust anymore. [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 10/25/10, via Nexis]

Executive Director Of League Of Women Voters: "I Am Getting Death Threats." Jan Czarnik, executive director of the League of Women Voters of Illinois told Media Matters, "I am getting death threats and I am taking it to our local FBI. There are postings on Fox News' Facebook page that include threats on my life." Event moderator Kathy Tate-Bradish also confirmed receiving threats by phone. Czarnik sent the following emails she had received to Media Matters:

Please tell Executive Director Jan Czarnik and Kathy Tate-Bradish that if they prefer (and probably would), people in the crowd of any future debates can sing the Soviet hymn ... If they do not wish to do that, please tell those c*nty douche bags to go f*** themselves :)

You had better put a leash on your liberal lunatic Tate-Bradish. She will take you down. Her Pledge of Allegiance video is going viral, now that Beck outed her fanaticism. You will follow NPR down the rathole, thanks to her. [Media Matters, 10/28/10]

Moderator Intended "No Disrespect For The Flag." In an interview with Media Matters, Tate-Bradish explained that the Pledge had "never been requested" at previous forums:

"I have absolutely nothing for or against saying the Pledge of Allegiance," Tate-Bradish said at the time after denying the request. That caused some in the crowd to boo and others began reciting the pledge themselves.

Tate-Bradish then commented that she had intended "no disrespect for the flag," but that the pledge is not usually said at LWV debates and "has never been requested" at the forums she has moderated. [Media Matters, 10/28/10]

Fox News Allegedly Inspired Gregory Giusti To Repeatedly Threaten To Destroy Pelosi's Home

Giusti Sentenced For Threatening Pelosi. In December 2010, Gregory Lee Giusti was sentenced to a year and nine months in federal prison for threatening to destroy former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's home if she voted in support of the health care reform law. [San Francisco Chronicle, 12/3/10]

Giusti Admitted To Making "More Than 30 Phone Calls" Threatening Pelosi Not To Support Health Care Reform. The Associated Press reported in April 2010 that in one recorded call, "Giusti said, 'if you pass this freaking health care plan don't bother coming back to California cause you ain't gonna have a place to live,' according to a transcript of the message included in an amended complaint." The AP added: "Officials said the caller often recited Pelosi's home address and said if she wanted to see it again, she should not support the health care overhaul bill that since has been enacted. Giusti left at least two recorded messages containing threats involving one of Pelosi's residences in Northern California, according to the complaint." [Associated Press, 4/8/10]

Giusti Called Pelosi "A Witch" And Said He Didn't Like Her Pushing Health Care Bill "Down The People's Throats." The AP further reported that Giusti "told investigators he had phoned Pelosi about a half-dozen times, called her a witch and said he did not like her 'pushing the health care bill down the people's throats,' the complaint stated." [Associated Press, 4/8/10]

Giusti's Mother Blamed Fox News For Her Son's Actions. During an interview with the local San Francisco ABC affiliate, Giusti's mother, Eleanor Giusti, stated that Fox News was a factor in her son's actions. She stated:

ELEANOR GIUSTI: Greg has -- frequently gets in with a group of people that have really radical ideas and that are not consistent with myself or the rest of the family and -- which gets him into problems. And apparently I would say this must be another one that somehow he's gotten onto either by -- I'd say Fox News or all of those that are really radical, and he -- that's where he comes from. [ABC's San Francisco affiliate, KGO-TV, 4/7/10]

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    • Author by kooky cutter (January 23, 2011 5:42 pm ET)
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      Glenn Beck's CONSPIRACY THEORIES are out of control. He is promoting domestic terrorism. Why is he still on TV?
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      • Author by sambo (January 23, 2011 6:27 pm ET)
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        after listening to Beck for 5 mins. it's understandable,how
        the crazies are attracted to him
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        • Author by Macaco (January 24, 2011 6:26 pm ET)
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          "The New York Times recently reported ....."

          I stopped reading at this point, a liberal rag attacks conservatives - shocker.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (January 24, 2011 6:49 pm ET)
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            The NY Times is not liberal.

            Make a note of it.
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            • Author by wareagle (January 24, 2011 9:02 pm ET)
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              Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

              Stop loading the dank in the "foghorn." To say the NY Times isn't liberal is admitting you are and idiot.

              Make a note so you will remember when the buzz wears off.
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              • Author by MiniTru (January 25, 2011 2:15 pm ET)
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                To say the NY Times isn't liberal is admitting (sic) you are and (sic) idiot.
                Right back atcha, chum.
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          • Author by straightawaykid (January 25, 2011 3:24 am ET)
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            Surprising, I didn't think you knew how to read, Mr.Caca.
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          • Author by mari2jj (January 25, 2011 2:31 pm ET)
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            It is possible to shut off one's reasoning powers like that, sort of stick your head in the sand, and stand by while someone is killed due to the rhetoric of some dry-drunk ideologue. But that does not absolve one of the moral responsibility we have when some dork is trying to get someone killed just because they have differing opinions.
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            • Author by wareagle (January 25, 2011 4:32 pm ET)
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              So who was it that was killed by a dry-drunk ideolouge's talking points.

              Sorry but the Tuscon shooting doesn't qualify no how bad you want it too.
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            • Author by wareagle (January 25, 2011 4:32 pm ET)
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              So who was it that was killed by a dry-drunk ideolouge's talking points.

              Sorry but the Tuscon shooting doesn't qualify no how bad you want it too.
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      • Author by clearstate (January 23, 2011 7:46 pm ET)
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        Because under a Democratic President, its covered under free speech. Otherwise under a Republican President, its considered treason and you're labeled a terrorist.
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        • Author by m.welker (January 24, 2011 1:27 pm ET)
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          Does anyone else smile involuntarily when Glenn steps in front of his chalkboard? I can't help it, I just know something of great hilarity will follow.
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          • Author by JBarr (January 24, 2011 4:43 pm ET)
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            Yes, the truth is often funny. Try doing the research to prove Beck wrong. Then come back and comment.
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            • Author by mjlilgui (January 24, 2011 4:53 pm ET)
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              That couldn't be more adorable if it were a puppy and a kitten wrestling over a ball of yarn.
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 25, 2011 1:40 am ET)
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                The Truth is Often Funny.


                Join us next time on Deep Thoughts from Glenn Beck Fans.
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            • Author by MiniTru (January 25, 2011 2:16 pm ET)
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              Yes, the truth is often funny. Try doing the research to prove Beck wrong. Then come back and comment.
              Hey, "fairliberal", how are you doing?
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      • Author by JBarr (January 24, 2011 4:38 pm ET)
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        Perhaps you should listen to Beck before regurgitating Media Matters talking points. How many of you liberals have heard Pivens, in her own words, call for violence like what has happened in Greece? Why dont you all listen to her then comment. Did you nuts hear about the threats to the democratic governor of Missouri? Of course not because it was a leftist that was responsible. Oh the hypocrisy.

        Media Matters's fixation on Beck and Fox News is funny. 90% of the content on this website is directed at Beck and Fox News. If Media Matters spends that much time on Beck and Fox, perhaps it is because Beck and Fox are on to something?
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        • Author by Maimon (January 24, 2011 5:11 pm ET)
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          Oddly, I do listen to Beck and other rightwing propagandaists directly.I've read most of their books too. To be honest, they write books that are innacurate and full erroneous claims and factual errors. Fox is there to perpetuate false memes for the GOP and their supporters. It is propaganda and entertainment or "Propatainement".

          The reason for the focus on Fox is because they are not a real news station. Most of Foxs' employees are actors and not journalsits. It is an attempt to appear LEGITIMATE when that is not the case.

          I've yet to hear a positive story on the currernt administration, though I heard non stop positive stories on George W. Bush for 8 years. Funny if you look up the other news channels you see a more realistic approach to news. An approach that is to INFORM its viewers, not INDOCTRINATE.

          Ever notice the false patriotism? How about the false stories that get repeated from show to show? This is coordinated propaganda.

          Name a news station that is headed by a former political strategist other than Fox? Name a news station that has 4 potential presidential candiates from ONE party on its payroll? Name a serious journalistic award thatr has been given to Fox from and independent journalism review?

          The success of Fox news has nothing to do with good journalism or accuracy, it is simply polpular because so many soft headed people have bought into the product. It is like saying," Hey Meth must be a great drug so many people use it".
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          • Author by EZ4you2say (January 25, 2011 1:33 pm ET)
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            If it's just entertainment, then why does it p**s you guys off so much?
            I think it's just jealousy. You're mad because you don't have anyone on your side that is as popular.
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            • Author by MiniTru (January 25, 2011 2:18 pm ET)
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              Once again, we get the "popularity = truth" lie.

              Fox must be really jealous of SpongeBob SquarePants, then.
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        • Author by Maimon (January 24, 2011 5:22 pm ET)
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          Also, Beck is not a journalist or an historian or a Cosntitutional expert. He is a huckster. He speaks to an audience that is feeling marginalized and he is manufacturing anger for them.

          He and guys like O'Riley pretend to be "average joes". It is an act to get you to buy into the myth. It is a propaganda technique. The very people Beck drones on about used the same techniques e.g. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Minh, etc...

          My favourite target is Sol Alinsky. They are critical of his organizational tactics, then Fox and Beck use them all. LMAO

          Propaganda techniques include:

          -demonizing your enemy
          -using association
          -speaking from a false position of authority
          -perpetuating false memes
          -scripted guests
          -uber-patriotism
          -connecting yourself to great hisotric people
          -revisionist history

          This is not what news broadcasters do...

          Some people in the US think Fox is news and it isn't. Watch some foreign news or some responsible journalism from the US and you will see. Wait...you propably won't cause you like feeling like you belong to something greater than yourself.
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        • Author by dandelion (January 24, 2011 10:25 pm ET)
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          If Media Matters spends that much time on Beck and Fox, perhaps it is because Beck and Fox are on to something?
          Oh and they're also jealous and/or scared of him. What other cliches are you going to trot out? I don't know why I expect anything more original, but sheesh.
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 25, 2011 1:45 am ET)
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          If Media Matters spends that much time on Beck and Fox, perhaps it is because Beck and Fox are on to something?


          This is the sort of lame-brained logic that makes you the perfect sucker for Fox "news". You are their target audience.

          If an exterminator spends 90% of his time on rats and cockroaches, does that mean that the rats and roaches are "on to something"?

          If a certain unit of a police force spends 90% of its time on child molesters and burglars, do you think that tells you that those criminals are on the right track ?

          Use your brain. Please.
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      • Author by Arturus (January 24, 2011 5:36 pm ET)
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        Glenn Beck constantly promotes NON-violence and follows Alveda King (MLK's niece) pledge of NON-violence. To continue to say he is promoting violence means you don't care what Beck ACTUALLY says but rather, you're just spouting (untruthful) rhetoric to promote your OWN agenda.
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        • Author by Maimon (January 24, 2011 6:00 pm ET)
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          Hmmm...Alveda king, MLK's niece...wow. You mean the one being paid to say King was a republican? So you know she is not the heir ofKing's legacy. She is rightwing paid puppet. Maybe you should check that out first.

          LMAO...ohh mannn that is rich.

          Also, saying one thing and doing another is what Beck does. It is like North Korea calling itself, " The Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea". It's always illusion and Doublespeak.

          If you know anything about Beck his motivatiosn are this:
          -Money
          -controversy
          -White Horse Theolgy
          -promote Cleon Skousen
          -Spread fear because it sells all the above.

          You know he promoted Skousens books because he wrote an introduction to new editions that are printed by a mormon press. So he gets paid, the mormons bank and he spread fear.

          He's an actor selling fear and myths. I've read his books and corrected the mass of errors. I've done the same with Ann Coulter, Rush, Hannity, Goldberg, etc... I've watched and listened to him and seen the constant disninformation he spread.

          You have simply sacrificed objectivity of thought for blind dogma. You gave up independent ideas and concepts for spoon fed myths. No longer a free individual you are a conformist who shouts," I am free because they say I'm free".

          That is how propaganda works...The Lords of Illusion have taken your freedom.




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        • Author by mookworthjwilson (January 24, 2011 11:53 pm ET)
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          Alveda King? You mean the homophobic bigot who has been disowned by her family?
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        • Author by TZ3k (January 25, 2011 12:04 am ET)
             
          Why does someone need to so prominently take a pledge of non-violence? If he's not promoting paranoia and violent action, then that should speak for itself.
          How did Shakespeare put it? "Me thinks he doth protest too much!"
          Who me? I don't use violent rhetoric, how DARE you! I'm the most non-violent person in media! (yeah, sure)
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      • Author by mari2jj (January 25, 2011 2:00 pm ET)
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        He works for Fox. That explains everything. In fact if a person is not promoting this weird stuff, they would never be chosen to work for Fox. Never mind, if the Professor gets killed after Beck's incitement. But his constant hate discussion about this Professor makes one wonder if he is truly a convert to any religious faith or if even that was used by him to prop up his image that was so badly in need of being propped up!
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      • Author by mamaearth (January 25, 2011 6:50 pm ET)
           
        Cloward, Piven, the "infamous" Weather Underground, etc. have been promoting domestic terrorism since the 60's.....
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      • Author by mari2jj (January 26, 2011 2:01 pm ET)
           
        Yes, so true. Also his persecution of this woman amounts to disgusting reactions by some people. He incites illegal behavior directed towards this woman. He is a bully and a bigot! He represents no Christianity whatsoever. He might want to pick up the New Testament and read Christ's own rules about how to treat others, even one's enemies. Perhaps then, his constant bleating about his religious beliefs could be believable.
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    • Author by Listen (January 23, 2011 6:09 pm ET)
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      Fox is hiring conspiracy theorists like Dobbs and Napolitano to make the teaparty happy. The teabaggers are run by the John Birch Society.
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    • Author by thaneb (January 23, 2011 6:25 pm ET)
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      Though Beck may not have directly called for violence against Prof. Piven, she (or her estate should it come to that, heaven forbid) may be able to show that the site he has founded, The Blaze, LLC serves to incite. From what I have read the site is monitored. If it can be shown, through discovery, that progressive or moderating voices are quickly removed whereas threatening voices remain and even feed on each other, such management would be the smoking gun of the incitement.
      On the other hand, even handed moderation and relatively rapid removal of threats would argue against incitement.
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      • Author by WilliamHolden (January 23, 2011 7:45 pm ET)
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        They can remove comments as much as they like or take pledges and say they are against violence.

        The important point is they use Piven for the psychological manipulation of their audience. The result of the brainwashing are death threats because Beck keeps hammering the message in their brains Piven is a dangerous enemy.

        The incitement has already happened. Cant be undone that easy like deleteing comments on a webpage now.
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      • Author by JBarr (January 24, 2011 4:45 pm ET)
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        How is pointing out that Pivens has called for violence by playing her own words in her own voice, either directly or indirectly calling for violence? You liberals make me laugh.
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        • Author by eweston8542983 (January 24, 2011 7:14 pm ET)
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          Explain, or insult, your choice.

          You got any calls for violence from her, and tell me why you think it is a call for violence, younger than say 20 years old?
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    • Author by LittleFuzzy (January 23, 2011 6:29 pm ET)
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      The Beckbots will be along shortly to proclaim that none of the above is in any way promoting fear and violent reaction.

      Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from criticism or consequences. Why do people who claim that each person MUST accept responsibility for their actions or words REFUSE to do that themselves?

      Beck has set himself up as an authoritarian leader. Leaders are responsible for the actions of their followers. Beck is a coward because he will not accept responsibility for anything.
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      • Author by JBarr (January 24, 2011 4:54 pm ET)
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        Talk about conspiracy theories, "Beck setting himself up as an authoritarian leader." On what planet? People are responsible for their own actions, PERIOD. You liberals are just to quick to blame someone else to accomplish your warped political agenda.

        If you have proof that Beck has instructed his "Beckbots" to do actual violence, please share with us.

        I am not a Beck supporter but you liberals need to get off his back. By the way, do any of you liberals know how much Beck has done for charity? You should look that up, you might be surprised.
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (January 24, 2011 6:59 pm ET)
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          People are responsible for their own actions,

          Yes, they are. But authoritarians are guided by their political/media masters. I recommend John Dean's book Conservatives Without Conscience. It explains authoritarianism in great detail.

          If you have proof that Beck has instructed his "Beckbots" to do actual violence, please share with us.

          Yes, you're correct again. He hasn't instructed them to perform any violence, but he's demonized his enemies where his authoritarian followers feel like they have to take action. Byron Williams among others for example.
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        • Author by yoiksaway (January 25, 2011 2:14 am ET)
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          "People are responsible for their own actions, PERIOD."--JBarr
          So you're an anarchist?

          Anyway, you provided a great test case for the Straw Man logical fallacy:
          "If you have proof that Beck has instructed his "Beckbots" to do actual violence..." is proposition A, that Beck has not instructed anyone to "do actual violence." The true debate regards proposition B, that Beck incites violence. It's easy at this point in history to refute A, and therefore B is refuted. Oops, wait, that's the fallacy; refuting A does not refute B, but you want to get away with it, your substitution argument.

          MMFA has listed dozens of examples of Beck rhetoric that inspires violence among some of his audience (B: Beck inspires violence). You've got nothing to refute what stares you in the face, that evidence we see here that is written, or in audio, or on video, so you resort to making up an argument that you can deal with, a substitute that is superficially similar, but not the same (A: Beck directly orders violence). The problem is that A isn't equivalent to B, so refuting A doesn't affect B. B still stands.

          Thanks, JBarr, for the lesson. You're an inspiration.
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        • Author by LittleFuzzy (January 26, 2011 9:45 am ET)
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          Beck is continuously telling people what to do: he hawks gold coins, survival food supplies, food insurance, tax relief; he started the 9/12 Project (the principles and rules to live your life); he has produced several books which claim to be life-guides; he wants everyone to watch every show (and record it if they might miss it) and to spread the word to their friends.

          That neatly fits the definition of someone setting himself up as The Leader.

          Your strawman argument has already been debunked.

          Regarding getting off Beck's back, Beck's daily rant on Fox is divisive, misleading and incites violence. Edmund Burke said it best "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". I, for one, refuse to do nothing.
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    • Author by bintx (January 23, 2011 6:43 pm ET)
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      Beck picked up his Cloward-Piven conspiracy from reading the 40 year old writings of Cleon Skousen. He's NUTS and so was Skousen. Skousen thought that the majority of Eisenhower's cabinet and staff were communist spies. Beck's just rehashing Skousen's lunacy.
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      • Author by MaineiacMan (January 24, 2011 6:49 am ET)
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        Why call it a conspiracy? Just go to the source (Piven) and use thier own words.

        Cloward & Piven - 1966 - published in The Nation -

        Written by Cloward & Piven - 1978 - "Poor Peoples Movements, Why They Succeed and How They Fail"

        Written by Cloward & Piven - 1982 - "The New Class War - Reagan's Attack on the Welfare State and it's Consequences"

        Written by Cloward & Piven - 1993 - "Regulating the Poor, the Functions of Public Welfare"

        Written by Piven & others - 2009 - "Keeping Down the Black Vote"

        There is plenty there. Beck doesnt have to make any of it up and he hasnt.

        Written by Cloward & Piven - 1998 - "The Breaking of the American Social Compact"

        Written by Piven - 2008 - "Challenging Authority, How Ordinary People Change America"
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        • Author by wookie (January 24, 2011 8:21 am ET)
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          Those monsters!!! If only some liberty loving patriots would use second ammendment remedies to stop people from advocating on behalf of the poor...
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        • Author by MidnightWriter (January 24, 2011 8:22 am ET)
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          Thank you for offering support to bintx's point, Double-M. Conspiracies are secret plans. Those planning them wouldn't put their ideas in print and have them published for all to see.

          No, what we see here are theories; they can be discussed, debated, agreed with, or disagreed with. Those who make anonymous threats against anyone that offers ideas are reprehensible cowards.

          That is the point you were trying to make, right Double-M?
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        • Author by magnolialover (January 24, 2011 8:38 am ET)
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          And what in all of her writings do you find is able to take down the entire country?

          I'll answer for you.

          Nothing...

          Because of Mr. Beck, this woman academic is receiving death threats. Do you or do you not agree with that?
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          • Author by JBarr (January 24, 2011 5:02 pm ET)
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            It is not because of Mr. Beck, idiot. Beck has received far more death threats that Pivens, and Media Matters is responsible because it runs article after article attacking Beck.

            See how stupid it sounds? Idiots that make threats are responsible for the threats they make, PERIOD!


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            • Author by Blue Dog (January 24, 2011 5:56 pm ET)
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              Then you must be able to provide MANY examples of MMFA articles deriding beck as a danger to the country, and even some examples of a crazy lefty admitting that his foiled killing spree was inspired by MMFA! Right?

              Anytime. I'll wait.
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              • Author by wareagle (January 25, 2011 11:27 pm ET)
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                Clay Duke.

                He was the nut that went into the Florida school board meeting and opened fire. Luckily the dumba$$ was a terrible shot and the only person killed was Duke himself.

                On his facebook page there were links to Wikileaks, a progressive 9/11 truther site, and Media Matters.

                Using the same libtard logic that linked Glenn to the Tuscon shooting one can only deduce that Duke was at least in part motivated by Mediamatters.
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                • Author by Johaely (January 26, 2011 8:21 am ET)
                     
                  Glenn was connected to Loughner by the fact that the person who was almost killed was a Democratic senator who voted for health care and had her office vandalized. There was nothing in his youtube profile that indicated any liking of Beck. On the other hand, it didn't take much for Beck $#!tsty website to claim loughner was a liberal.
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        • Author by magnolialover (January 24, 2011 8:38 am ET)
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          And what in all of her writings do you find is able to take down the entire country?

          I'll answer for you.

          Nothing...

          Because of Mr. Beck, this woman academic is receiving death threats. Do you or do you not agree with that?
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          • Author by MaineiacMan (January 24, 2011 10:36 am ET)
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            Right! I dont have a problem with Freedom of Speech by the right or the left. The problem I have is that when someone points out something someone said, why is called "rhetoric"? He didnt make it up. It's in her writings. He reported on it. MM4A making much to do about nothing.
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            • Author by magnolialover (January 24, 2011 10:39 am ET)
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              He is making things up about her, claiming that she is as dangerous as an armed militia group (here's a clue, she isn't). He's also claiming that a large swath of liberals follow along with her writings and proposals, again, not true. He's making her out to be an agent of doom for America, she isn't.

              If he were factually contradicting her writings, that would be one thing. He's castigating her as being death to America, which in turn, brings death threats to her.
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              • Author by MaineiacMan (January 24, 2011 11:48 am ET)
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                Here you go. Have at it.

                http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/257733/frances-fox-piven-s-violent-agenda-stanley-kurtz
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                • Author by MiniTru (January 24, 2011 12:47 pm ET)
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                  National Review? You must be joking.

                  That's the late Bill Buckley's Bircher rag.
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                  • Author by EZ4you2say (January 24, 2011 1:15 pm ET)
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                    Yeah, what's wrong with you? Don't you know the only links that are allowed on MMFA are from HuffPo or the Daily Kos? (ok, ok some of the slower people use Wikipedia)
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                    • Author by MaineiacMan (January 24, 2011 2:48 pm ET)
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                      I know. I fully expected the "shoot the messenger" response. When they cant take down the message, they go after the messenger. It's gotten pretty easy to predict.
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                      • Author by foghornleghorn (January 24, 2011 3:52 pm ET)
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                        Here's a factoid for ya - most liberals never heard of Piven until Beck started his hate talk against her.

                        She's not leading a movement. There's no Piven Army ready to take over the country. She's basically a nobody, but now she has to live in fear because of Beck's lies and you don't have a problem with that?
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                        • Author by JBarr (January 24, 2011 5:06 pm ET)
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                          Where is the evidence that most liberals haven't heard of Piven? She wrote books on her crazy thinking that were purchased by someone or did Beck pick up the only copy?

                          First, Beck has not lied about Pivens. Second, she does not live in fear because of Beck.
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                          • Author by mookworthjwilson (January 24, 2011 11:56 pm ET)
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                            Beck is a monster who refuses to deny his role in multiple murders. Everyone knows that.
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                            • Author by wareagle (January 25, 2011 12:16 pm ET)
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                              And what murders are you referring to?

                              Dont think the murders in Arizona qualify. Sorry.


                              Navigate away from Misinformation Matters a little more. You would be surprised whats out there.
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                              • Author by mookworthjwilson (January 25, 2011 2:13 pm ET)
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                                You know that poor girl who was raped and murdered back in the 80s...you know he refuses to answer the questions that are out there. I mean, i am not the one asking the questions, but the questions are out there...and there are rumors. If he would just answer the rumors and deny the allegations that he raped an murdered at least one, possibly more young girls back in the 80s this whole situation would be put to rest. It's just unfortunate for the poor girl's or girls' parents that he won't answer the questions. Hmmm...
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                          • Author by sl5616699 (January 25, 2011 1:35 am ET)
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                            You're kidding, right? You can't really be demanding "evidence" that liberals haven't heard of her? How would you suggest that we do that?

                            FYI...you can't ever prove a negative.
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                    • Author by bintx (January 24, 2011 4:47 pm ET)
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                      Um, I don't quote anything from HuffingtonPost or DailyKos. I try, really hard, to get the original sources for information. Also, most of the "slower people" here who use Wikipedia are the same folks who would post an article from The National Review to support their position.
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                    • Author by JBarr (January 24, 2011 5:08 pm ET)
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                      Your forgot the NYT.
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                • Author by mrhebert74 (January 24, 2011 7:59 pm ET)
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                  Here you go. Have at it.

                  http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/257733/frances-fox-piven-s-violent-agenda-stanley-kurtz
                  Okay, I'll have at it. Stanley Kurtz writes:
                  It is extraordinary that conservatives should be charged with stirring up violence at a moment when Piven, in an editorial in The Nation, has called for an American movement of “strikes and riots” on the model of the one recently seen in Greece.
                  No she doesn't. Kurtz is being stupid or disingenuous - always hard to tell with wingnuts. Piven's editorial refers to the Greek "strikes and riots" as an example of the speed with which an effective protest movement must "accumulate and spread," not as an example of how violent U.S. protests should be. Note that this one quote, consisting of three words, is all Kurtz offers for any demonstration that Piven calls for violence. I've debunked that assertion, which is the entire basis for everything else Kurtz says.

                  And surprise! All the commenters who wanted to dismiss him because he wrote for the NRO were 100% right! So yes, when the messenger is consistently, doggedly lying to you, shoot him (metaphorically speaking, of course).

                  Well, Maineiac Man, is that what you're basing your opinion on? Better go look for a new piece of wingnut BS to legitimize your craziness with.
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                  • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 25, 2011 1:52 am ET)
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                    I think it's cute when they link to wingnut opinion pieces, and they think it's going to help their case. Always seems to backfire.
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            • Author by bintx (January 24, 2011 4:45 pm ET)
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              Why? Because Beck is MAKING CRAP UP about this woman. He's trying to make this woman into something that she isn't. And he's convincing uninformed groupies like the folks on The Blaze that this woman is a danger to our country, which she is NOT. Have you seen the crap these groupies are saying about this woman about whom they know NOTHING except the BS that Beck pulls out of his backside?

              That's called RHETORIC.
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              • Author by Arturus (January 24, 2011 5:52 pm ET)
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                uh, yea....Beck uses her OWN words against her. Is that the "nothing" you're talking about?
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                • Author by foghornleghorn (January 24, 2011 7:01 pm ET)
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                  She's a harmless academic. He's putting a bullseye on this poor woman.

                  You Beck apologists are sick, sick people.
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                  • Author by wareagle (January 24, 2011 8:40 pm ET)
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                    If Beck lied as much as the professional left claims there would be a storm of libel suits against him.

                    Its hard to sue when Glenn uses video.

                    Truth to propaganda lemmings.
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                    • Author by Johaely (January 25, 2011 9:22 am ET)
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                      Beck has more money then he should have as well as FoxNews' protection. If somebody were to attempt to sue he could a) settle out of court or b) move the trial date so that the defendant just cna't keep up and drops charges. Other people just foolishly see Beck as a harmless, insignificant fool whom they would be giving credence if they were to sue his sorry ass.
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                      • Author by wareagle (January 25, 2011 12:21 pm ET)
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                        If Beck really lied no amount of money he or Fox has could defend him from a libel suit.

                        It is what it is. Sorry if it makes you upset.
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            • Author by JBarr (January 24, 2011 5:07 pm ET)
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              Well said.
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        • Author by bintx (January 24, 2011 4:43 pm ET)
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          And? They wrote articles. Beck lies his a** off on television all the time and writes (well, his ghostwriters write) a book every two or three months, why don't we make up a conspiracy about him?

          As I said, Beck is simply rehashing Skousen's Cloward-Piven conspiracy. Beck hasn't had an original thought about anything except how to con stupid folks like you out of more money in his life.
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        • Author by JBarr (January 24, 2011 4:57 pm ET)
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          Good job. Their own words, need we say more? The evidence certainly doesn't suggest Beck is making this stuff up.
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          • Author by MiniTru (January 25, 2011 2:39 pm ET)
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            The evidence suggests nothing else but that Beck is making this stuff up.
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            • Author by wareagle (January 25, 2011 11:17 pm ET)
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              Love how Beck playing videos of liberals speaking is making stuff up.

              Thank you for playing.
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    • Author by fantagor (January 23, 2011 6:49 pm ET)
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      Prepare for the next assassination of a left wing persona, so the right can all feign shock and pretend their daily attacks and hate speech had no influence on the perp. On the other hand, all the left's talk about their hate speech endangers THEM.

      Conservatism is a sanctuary for selfish, narcissistic nabobs, has been for 100 years.

      Randy
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      • Author by semiarid (January 24, 2011 8:55 am ET)
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        The Giffords assassination attempt was obviously political. If the shooter was merely crazy, he'd have shot up everyone at the Safeway, and not just people attending the Giffords event. Loughner would have shot up the Walmart where he eventually purchased his ammo, if he wasn't politically motivated. He might have shot up his former college. It would have been horrible, true, but it also would have been apolitical. Unlike the way the shooting actually went down which was so obviously political it is unexplainable how Beck and Palin think they deserve a pass. The shooting was purely political.

        Tucson has an extra-toxic hate-radio scene that has not been exposed by the MSM. And the Murdochs and Kochs and hate rage-ee-o profiteers and fox pundits want ordinary Americans to be on the fence about the pernicious effects of their monstrous propaganda. Because they don't want to stop the fear and hate their propaganda stokes: it represents power, it represents votes.
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        • Author by wookie (January 24, 2011 9:28 am ET)
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          Loughner was obsessed with Giffords for 3 years. Obviously he had some political motivation even if it was flaky. And things like the "Limbaugh-straight shooter" billboard are just in really bad taste regardless of the connection. But the right has so thoroughly built up the anti PC rebel shtick that they have to embrace nastiness now.
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          • Author by magnolialover (January 24, 2011 10:32 am ET)
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            In sort of defense of the billboard. It was up there before the incident. And it wasn't actually put there by Limbaugh's team. It was put up by the local station, which took it down almost immediately after the shooting.
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            • Author by cst (January 25, 2011 11:23 am ET)
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              See, right-wingers? we hateful lefties will even give The Mighty Rush the benefit of a doubt when warranted.
              Part of our belief in that evil thing called "factual accuracy".
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 24, 2011 12:12 pm ET)
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          The claim that the attack by Loughner was "not political" is one of the more stunningly dumb talking points on the right.

          Although he didn't seem to have any clear ideology ( from what we know so far, he was all over the place), and despite the efforts of the media to find friends of Loughner's from three or four years ago to say that he didn't listen to talk radio, what level of dishonesty or denial is necessary to believe that ?

          Even if we ignore his anti-government statements ( and, no, media dummies, hating government does not make one "apolitical"), put it to the smell test-

          Somebody with no interest in politics arms himself and takes a taxi across town to shoot a politician? How would he even be aware of it ? Why not some of those teachers he seemed to hate?

          If Loughner really didn't listen to the mainstream right wing media ( Fox or talk radio), I'd bet it was because he considered them just that; too mainstream. Not to mention a fact that might surprise the older Fox audience, that people Loughner's age are much less connected to TV and radio than that new-fangled internets thingamabob.

          I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he's a fan of the sites that consider Joe Scarborough a flaming lefty.
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        • Author by wareagle (January 24, 2011 8:54 pm ET)
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          Too bad your theory isnt supported by facts.

          I guess blaming the right makes you sleep better.
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 25, 2011 1:55 am ET)
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            Whose "theory" are you referring to, whorebeagle ?
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            • Author by EZ4you2say (January 25, 2011 1:26 pm ET)
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              ooohhhh aren't you intelligent, making up names like that.
              When you can't dispute facts, call names.

              Right out of the Saul Alinsky playbook (You know, one of those people you say most liberals never heard of)

              Rules for Radicals
              Tactic #5
              "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."
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              • Author by MiniTru (January 25, 2011 2:40 pm ET)
                   
                Right out of the Saul Alinsky playbook (You know, one of those people you say most liberals never heard of)
                Most liberals probably haven't heard of him.

                You do know that Alinsky died in 1972, don't you?
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                • Author by wareagle (January 25, 2011 4:51 pm ET)
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                  Even though Saul is dead that hasn't stopped the NEA from putting "Rules for Radicals" on their suggested reading list.
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                  • Author by Johaely (January 26, 2011 8:14 am ET)
                       
                    Yeah and? The NEA doesn't control school curriculum. Have you even read the book?
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            • Author by wareagle (January 25, 2011 4:47 pm ET)
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              Your apparent theory from above Andylice.

              You speculations that Loughner was politically motivated by talk radio or Fox or even Joe on PMSNBC despite evidence supporting it.

              I did not know your smell test was what we all had to go by.

              Every once and a while take a bath and the smell wont be so bad.

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    • Author by Arturus (January 23, 2011 6:59 pm ET)
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      Poor Ms. Pivins, it's ok that SHE incites the general population to "embrace their anger" and for them to become unruly mobs in the streets and in yet another interview said using violence was OK if it was in "their agenda". She repeatedly wanted Americans to act like Greece and couldn't understand why Americans weren't rioting. Her latest spew is to have China have strikes to bring America (that means YOU too) to her knees. Pivins has been, for decades now, advocating the downfall of America and that should rankle EVERY American, right or left, who loves this country because this woman clearly does not. Do your own research and find the truth out for yourself.
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      • Author by magnolialover (January 24, 2011 10:33 am ET)
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        Did you ever read her items? Probably not.

        Thing is, she may have been talking about the things that you think she talks about, but how many people are acting on what she has written or proposed?

        That would be, umm, nobody.
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      • Author by cst (January 24, 2011 10:40 am ET)
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        So tell me, do YOU belong to a union?
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (January 24, 2011 11:16 am ET)
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        Listen, Stephen, Ms Pivins is an acedemic.
        She publishes articles on her theories.
        She does not have a national TV show where she is able to have her views broadcast to millions on a daily basis.
        Can you link me to an article where she says that she wants Americans to riot or that she wants the chinese to go on strike (and deprive us of cheap LCD TVs) and bring us to our collective knees.
        Or is it that she thinks the vast masses of people are being used and abused by their corporate overlords and she sees that a ethically and morally wrong, and that these masses could bring down their overlords if they were to work together?
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (January 24, 2011 12:02 pm ET)
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          You won't get an honest answer to that, bilbo_dies.

          The mode of the right wing media consumers now is to try and parse, twist, spin, stretch, reach, obfuscate, muddy, and lie about anything and everything to create the most ludicrous false parallels they can construct.

          They simply must not face the facts. The GOP and it's well funded propaganda machine has invested way too much into their fear campaigns, and it does seem to keep the base angry and entranced by the hate filled rhetoric.
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        • Author by ToTheRight1965 (January 24, 2011 8:12 pm ET)
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          Used and abused??? These corporate overlords pay me a nice salary and put food on my family's table. As they do for millions of other hard-working Americans.

          Personally, I don't know anything about this woman nor do I care one iota. But your comment, dildo (I mean, bilbo) is monumentally stupid.

          Do you work for a living?
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          • Author by MiniTru (January 25, 2011 2:42 pm ET)
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            Personally, I don't know anything about this woman nor do I care one iota.
            So why are you commenting on an article about which you state you know nothing, then go right ahead and prove that you know nothing?
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      • Author by wookie (January 24, 2011 12:26 pm ET)
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        Then you would have quotes, right? This is just more "Gore says he invented the Internet" I'm sure MLK made comments about being angry about injustice and wanting people to organize to protest. And the same radical right called him dangerous for it.
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      • Author by bintx (January 24, 2011 4:49 pm ET)
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        I could walk through my office right now and ask 35 people if they had ever heard of this woman and I guarantee you that 30 of them would not know who the hell she was and the other 5 would have heard of her on Beck's program.

        You obviously didn't read the woman's article and you have no idea what you're talking about. You're just aping Glenn Beck's comments.
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      • Author by sl5616699 (January 25, 2011 1:55 am ET)
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        "Pivins has been, for decades now, advocating the downfall of America"

        If she's been doing this for decades, why does Beck bother to bring her up now, since obviously she's had no real impact???? Could it be because bringing her up serves his own divisive agenda? btw....I'd never heard of her before.
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    • Author by Don Quixote (January 23, 2011 7:15 pm ET)
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      I think this is very interesting in that it demonstrates a very clear causal link between hate rhetoric and at least the threat of violence against a person or persons. It's simple math. Presumably Piven had few, if any, death threats before Beck launched his on-air rhetorical attacks, and now afterwards, she has several.

      That's direct correlation folks.

      Beck can no longer deny direct links between his words and at least the very real and very intense threat of physical harm to individuals who disagree with his views. This and the Tides case should make anyone in their right mind take pause and reflect on their actions.
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      • Author by WilliamHolden (January 23, 2011 7:31 pm ET)
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        I agree.

        I dont think Beck and his team arent aware of it. I find it very likely there were calculating that in from the beginnning. You cant do that kind of psycholgical manipulation and not be aware of possible consequences. There are too smart for not having expected such incidents.

        Obviously, they coudnt care less.
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        • Author by WilliamHolden (January 23, 2011 7:33 pm ET)
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          P.S.: Especially when you make a single person the target of your attacks again and gain.
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (January 24, 2011 12:03 pm ET)
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        I think we already saw this with Byron Williams and the Tides foundation thwarted assassination attempts.
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    • Author by WilliamHolden (January 23, 2011 7:26 pm ET)
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      No one of the crazy minds would ever have heard of Piven, sat down and communicated their violent fantasies if it wasnt for Glenn Beck and his team. On FoxNation, someone told me a deluted mind even posted her private adress there before it was deleted, and TheBlaze. Much of coincidence I assume..

      Besides the nice revenue reaching into millions and millions they fork in another result of their psycholigical manipulations are these death threats.

      It is agressional behaviour caused by fear and frustration.

      Fear and frustration that Beck and his team so expertedly evoke because they need it for their enterprise.
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    • Author by donzostevens1082 (January 23, 2011 7:27 pm ET)
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      I'd be curious to know how many death threats stemmed from the original Cloward/Piven Nation article. Surely in the tumultuous '60s such an inflammatory piece must have spurred some to threaten drastic action. Otherwise... why is it so dangerous and frightening to Beck?
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    • Author by WilliamHolden (January 23, 2011 7:49 pm ET)
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      No one of the crazy minds would ever have heard of Piven, sat down and communicated their violent fantasies if it wasnt for Glenn Beck and his team. On FoxNation, someone told me a deluted mind even posted her private adress there before it was deleted, and TheBlaze. Much of coincidence I assume..

      Besides the nice revenue reaching into millions and millions they fork in another result of their psycholigical manipulations are these death threats.

      It is agressional behaviour caused by fear and frustration.

      Fear and frustration that Beck and his team so expertedly evoke because they need it for their enterprise.
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    • Author by samurai99 (January 23, 2011 8:00 pm ET)
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      Wow. This is the longest article I've ever seen on this sight. Well done guys.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (January 23, 2011 9:12 pm ET)
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      Glennie has been hit with a "cease and desist" order and yet, Teh Blahz posts another story about Frances Fox Piven and the usual comments about how she has commited treason and deserves to be in jail or how she should be executed or lynched. The thing is, she's just discussing how the global economy gives a great deal of power to the poorest workers in the poorest countries. The global economy allows them to go on strike, to refuse to work, and to make a global impact by refusing to make the cheap crap that they sell at Walmarts and flea markets are other down-scale markets, and upscale as far as that goes, because even the best stores outsource much of the stuff they sell. I don't see what is treasonous or seditious about wanting to see someone improve their wages and working conditions, to have more control over their own lives, but the Beckbots sure do. How sad. I just hope nothing more happens.
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      • Author by Bongo Fury (January 23, 2011 9:41 pm ET)
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        Speaking of Walmart, in WA there were two killed at a Walmart today. In Detroit today a gunman walked into a police station and wounded officers before he was shot dead. And the beat goes on.
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        • Author by eweston8542983 (January 24, 2011 7:25 pm ET)
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          A 31 year old man and a 13 girl. Both dead after the man shot two officers, who survived. There was a warrent on the man.
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      • Author by villabolo (January 23, 2011 9:46 pm ET)
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        Could you please give details and/or links about this "cease and desist" order?
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        • Author by Bongo Fury (January 24, 2011 12:18 am ET)
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          Villabolo..The closest I came to an answer is on the ccr.justice.com. They wrote a formal letter asking Ailes to cease and desist.
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          • Author by epkklk851 (January 24, 2011 9:41 am ET)
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            Poor choice of words on my part, I saw the thing about the letter from her lawyers to Ailes and implied it was a Court order. A formal legal request is not the same as a court order.
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (January 24, 2011 12:09 pm ET)
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        epkklk851,

        It's dangerous because if workers in India were to strike, the Glenn Beck listeners would have to pay $6.99 for a poorly made Nascar t-shirt at Wal-mart instead of $4.99.

        It might cost a few dollars more for a "Larry the Cable Guy" dvd as well. Then again, if we had sensible trade policies, and not subscribe to this global free market pyramid scheme, those same shoppers would probably have decent paying manufacturing jobs, and would be able to buy ten times as many Nascar T-shirts at least.
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      • Author by Arturus (January 24, 2011 5:44 pm ET)
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        Beck has NOT been "hit" (hateful rhetoric!) with a cease and desist order...that would imply a legal and lawfully binding order which simply insn't the case here. Roger Ailes CEO of Fox has been asked to have Glenn cease and desist from talking anymore about Francis Fox Pivins. Ailes has refused stating Glenn has NEVER called for violence against Pivin and that all of Becks reporting uses her own words and is accurate.
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    • Author by doggeddem (January 23, 2011 9:19 pm ET)
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      Nobody is doing a better job of destroying America than the right-wing mob that is run by the likes of Glenn, Rush, The Koch Brothers, Rupert and Roger. They are pigs and they hate America.
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      • Author by morgansher (January 24, 2011 11:23 am ET)
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        I'm sure that group you named loves America... America's resources: minerals, lands, what have you - whatever can be wrested out to increase their wealth and power, they love, love, love.

        What they do NOT love is that their fellow Americans are still (nominally) free.
        What they do not love are Americans whose opinions differ from theirs.
        What they do not love is a working education system that teaches critical thinking.
        What they do not love is those Americans who love their country enough to practice things like social justice, who strive for all Americans to enjoy economic security and good health.

        And they will libel, smear, defile, accuse by innuendo ANYONE, obscure or famous, who has ever spoken up for unions, equal pay, decency toward the poor, or anything else. They will cast their baleful light on these people using the most incendiary language possible, with full understanding and with the cynical knowledge that isolated and often disturbed "loose cannons" may be moved to take matters into their own hands and which can then be written off as 'isolated incidents.'

        Sadly, I have come to believe that the desired outcome of Beck and his paymasters is an outcome of open, wholesale violence.
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    • Author by soze169880 (January 23, 2011 9:23 pm ET)
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      Glenn Beck's America: where tough guys go after old women.
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    • Author by RKAllen (January 23, 2011 9:41 pm ET)
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      Why is it that none of my liberal friends have ever heard of Cloward and Piven, George Soros, or Saul Alinsky but every right wing person seems to be able to recite them chapter and verse?
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      • Author by bootyprof (January 23, 2011 11:19 pm ET)
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        Because Beck is creating strawmen! These are marginal characters in American Politics yet Beck presents them as the coming of the apocolypse! Piven is an obscure academic that is known in social policy circles but has little to NO influence over policy decisions. It is really a shame how Beck has defamed Piven and her scholarly legacy! Unreal in its evil I would argue.
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      • Author by RedandWhite Guerilla (January 23, 2011 11:37 pm ET)
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        Because Cloward, Piven, Soros and Alinsky don't actually control our lives and therefore aren't all that important to begin with.
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      • Author by cst (January 24, 2011 10:56 am ET)
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        And yet watch your right wing friends change the topic if anyone mentions the Koch brothers...
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 24, 2011 12:18 pm ET)
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        I won't try to answer your rhetorical question, RK, but I'll disagree with one part of it.

        Right wingers can't quote any of those people chapter and verse. They can only paraphrase and regurgitate what Beck has previously paraphrased or cherry-picked for them.

        I think even if some of them were to take the time to read the books they're so hysterical about, they would see the evil that they've been instructed to see. The programming has already taken place.

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        • Author by CoolSlaw (January 24, 2011 12:38 pm ET)
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          They won't, of course, actually pick up those books and read them. They'll read through Sarah Palin's ghostwritten fluffy, folksy, paranoia, but they will never read anything by those who disagree with their wordlview.
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          • Author by EZ4you2say (January 24, 2011 1:30 pm ET)
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            What are we talking here, Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto??
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            • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 24, 2011 1:36 pm ET)
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              Neither, the topic is Beck's attacks on Frances Fox Piven, and the resulting death threats against her. You should try reading the items, otherwise you're just proving the point.

              That being said, the average teabagger would probably find inspiration in either of the works you mentioned. Obviously from the right wing tone of Mein Kampf, but they'd probably enjoy the totalitarianism in the CM as well.
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              • Author by EZ4you2say (January 24, 2011 3:44 pm ET)
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                I actually did read her editorial "Mobilizing the Jobless" http://www.thenation.com/article/157292/mobilizing-jobless

                She is a socialist and it sounds like she's calling for a revolt;
                So where are the angry crowds, the demonstrations, sit-ins and unruly mobs? After all, the injustice is apparent. Working people are losing their homes and their pensions while robber-baron CEOs report renewed profits and windfall bonuses. Shouldn't the unemployed be on the march? Why aren't they demanding enhanced safety net protections and big initiatives to generate jobs?

                And;
                Second, before people can mobilize for collective action, they have to develop a proud and angry identity and a set of claims that go with that identity. They have to go from being hurt and ashamed to being angry and indignant.

                What does angry and indignant mean?

                Why is Beck so wrong to call her out as a enemy of the right?
                You lefties, don't seem to have a problem calling out your enemies.
                I know, it's because you're right and we're wrong.
                Come up with a better answer than that
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                • Author by foghornleghorn (January 24, 2011 3:57 pm ET)
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                  Liberals aren't socialists.

                  Liberals don't get their marching orders from Piven (or anyone else, for that matter).

                  Liberals, most of them anyway, have no idea who Piven is and what she believes in. SHE'S A MINOR ACADEMIC WITH NO POWER.

                  And for being an intellectual with ideas that differ from Beck, she is now in the crosshairs and lives in fear.

                  Understand?
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                  • Author by JBarr (January 24, 2011 5:13 pm ET)
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                    Blah, blah, blah. Whatever she is she is calling for violence and Beck has called her out on that and done so in a factually accurate way.

                    Understand? Doubt it.
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                    • Author by foghornleghorn (January 24, 2011 7:03 pm ET)
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                      How is she calling for violence?

                      Who's following her call for violence?

                      But Beck is putting a bullseye on her forehead and you just say blah, blah, blah.

                      You Beck apologists are sick, sick people.
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                  • Author by EZ4you2say (January 25, 2011 1:14 pm ET)
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                    Aren't the intellectuals the ones that the left looks up to most? Aren't those your heros?
                    If you read posts this site, that is the basic tenet of all you lefties, "We're so much smarter than you"

                    And you're so thourghouly convinced that everyone on the right gets their "Marching Orders" from Beck and Limbaugh?
                    You are dillousional.
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                    • Author by MiniTru (January 25, 2011 3:10 pm ET)
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                      Aren't the intellectuals the ones that the left looks up to most?[1] Aren't those your heros?[2]
                      If you read posts this site[3], that is the basic tenet of all you lefties, "We're so much smarter than you"[4]

                      And you're so thourghouly [5] convinced that everyone on the right gets their "Marching Orders" from Beck and Limbaugh?
                      You are dillousional.[6]
                      [1]Sweeping generality. Logical fallacy #1

                      [2] Illiteracy. All too common with wingnuts.

                      [3] See [2] above.

                      [4] Straw man.Logical fallacy #2

                      [5] See [2] above.

                      [6] See [2] above.

                      Four simple sentences, and you couldn't type even one of them without displaying your abject ignorance. You think the basic tenets of the "lefties" is "We're so much smarter than you" because for you, that is proven here every time you post. For the most part, we here are smarter than you.
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                • Author by bintx (January 24, 2011 4:58 pm ET)
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                  The Constitution guarantees every citizen the right to assemble (to protest). Why do you hate the Constitution? I don't have to agree with the protesters, nor do you, but under our Constitution, they have the RIGHT to assemble and protest.

                  Angry and indignant means angry and indignant. I can be angry and indignant and not be violent, can't you? If not, you need to seek professional help because it sounds like you may have some anger issues.

                  Dr. Piven isn't anybody's enemy. She's an American citizen who stated her opinions and her theories. Most Americans have never heard of her . . . well, except for the loons who tune in to Beck's loony-toons programs every day. The article she wrote in The Nation? It was seen by about 160,000 people in this country. That's the total circulation of The Nation.

                  BTW, I haven't seen a single thing you've posted which has anything to do with being from "the right." Beck isn't a conservative and he's not from "the right." Beck is a con-man.

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                  • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 25, 2011 12:18 am ET)
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                    Obviously, liberals getting angry and protesting is violent.

                    Right wingers suggesting "bullets, not ballots" and "second amendment remedies", "Don't retreat, reload" and "shoot them on the head", these are just sophisticated metaphors for peaceful political involvement.
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                • Author by sl5616699 (January 25, 2011 2:37 am ET)
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                  "Why is Beck so wrong to call her out as a enemy of the right?"

                  Because she is NOT anyone's enemy. She's an elderly academic lady who has published some of her opinions over a period of many years...without having any impact on anybody, then or now.

                  You are the perfect example of the consequences of the right wing distortion machine: It creates an entire alternate reality....which you choose to live in.....that has absolutely nothing to do with the real world. Nothing good can ever come of that.
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                  • Author by bootyprof (January 26, 2011 4:45 am ET)
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                    Kudos. Well said especially about the "alternate reality" that some extreme right-wingers reside in!
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            • Author by bintx (January 24, 2011 4:52 pm ET)
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              I don't know, one of Jared Loughner's favorite books was Alice in Wonderland. Looks like he was into talking rabbits and walking decks of cards who shouted "off with his head."
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          • Author by HRN (January 24, 2011 2:45 pm ET)
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            It's the multisyllabic words that do them in, donchyano...
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    • Author by Upgrayedd (January 23, 2011 9:43 pm ET)
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      Just amazing.
      If I made comments like Beck does I would be looking at 4 walls and 3 squares a day.
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      • Author by banjo (January 23, 2011 10:45 pm ET)
           
        Beck has been getting some bad Legal advice for years. One day he'll be in Jail. How can he claim to be a Christian. I fill sorry for that 78 year old having to live in fear.
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      • Author by banjo (January 23, 2011 10:45 pm ET)
           
        Beck has been getting some bad Legal advice for years. One day he'll be in Jail. How can he claim to be a Christian. I fill sorry for that 78 year old having to live in fear.
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    • Author by progusa (January 23, 2011 11:48 pm ET)
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      I apprieciate the time and effort it took to compile this list. Keep it up!
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    • Author by Maimon (January 24, 2011 12:22 am ET)
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      The most interesting part of his predictions and fear mongering is they are vague like a fortune tellers prophecy. But to the viewer they clear as crystal. They are buying into the false associations he is creating e.g. President Obama is a communist, Soros is a Nazis, etc...

      His fans are more like the followers of a televangelist. He only speaks truth, he is never wrong. If caught doing something he is forgiven without question. His propaganda has proven very effective. I believe his success is due in part to the fact he never really goes on a show where he is going to have to defend and debate. The same is true of Rush. The few times I've seen either on another show they usually get schooled. Even the women on the View owned him.

      He is a clever construct, nothing about him is real. He can not step out of the character now, or the illusions will crumble. the sam for Rush, O'Riley, Hannity and Coulter. They are mono-dimentional characters.

      I am always leery of people who claim to have some esoteric knowledge or are the sole dispensers of truth.


      They are the Lords of Illusion
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    • Author by sociocrat (January 24, 2011 12:33 am ET)
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      Glenn "I couldnt finish college" Beck is a very dangerous man. The people who watch and listen to him are ignorant and easily led. Beck knows all he has to do is insinuate lies about someone and they will act. He will have blood on his hands. There should be a more concerted effort to pry away all his sponsors. There needs to be a coordinated national campaign to put this dangerous man out of business. I think, more than Limbaugh, Savage, Levin or Brietbart, Beck is the most dangerous of the wingnuts. Seriously, if he isnt taken off the air soon, someone is going to be killed. He is seriously deranged.
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    • Author by Maimon (January 24, 2011 12:34 am ET)
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      This is totally off topic, but I was deeply saddened to see one of my heroes today and the poor state he is in.

      Christopher Hitchens is one of the greatest minds of the last hundred years. His rapier wit and keen eye for the truth has always taken me to an ecstatic of consciousness.

      His love to demythologize sacred cows has always been inspiring. I hope you get better Chris and thanks for your contribution to furthering hunmanity.

      "All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting." Geaorge Orwell

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act" George Orwell

      "Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity." Horace Mann

      Some of Chris' favourite thinkers...
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    • Author by cbrockman71 (January 24, 2011 4:04 am ET)
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      Once again, Beck gives a ridiculously simplistic explanation for a phenomenon that isn't even happening. He is the Platonic form of buffoonery.
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    • Author by David2012 (January 24, 2011 6:28 am ET)
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      I think that Glenn's Tree of Revolution looks a lot like Sean Hannity's Tree of Liberty:

      http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519158,00.html

      Maybe they use the same cartoonist. I wonder whether the trees are in the same forest.
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    • Author by onementalgiant (January 24, 2011 7:12 am ET)
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      Beck has an average of 15 threats against him and/or his family at any given time - not that it matters to the vast majority of those who post here,
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      • Author by David2012 (January 24, 2011 7:31 am ET)
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        Who's actually getting shot?
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      • Author by AB-001 (January 24, 2011 7:49 am ET)
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        Beck has an average of 15 threats against him and/or his family at any given time - not that it matters to the vast majority of those who post here,


        So that excuses all of the above?
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      • Author by ILikePizza (January 24, 2011 8:14 am ET)
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        Beck has an average of 15 threats against him and/or his family at any given time

        So therefore it's okay for Glenn to use his four hours of air time to foment hatred and violence against a private citizen with no power? Is that what you think your sentence means? Honestly, glenn bases his show on fear of and hatred for upwards of forty percent of the country yet you're somehow surprised that glenn might receive threats from the margins of that forty percent?

        glenn is a con man, it can't be stated more simply. Just look at his latest "book", "The Seven Wonders That Will Change Your Life" . glenn sells his audience fear and hate, yet without any sense of hypocrisy then sells them a "book" where one of the wonders is compassion. Seriously, his silly audience will buy anything. Spoiler alert! the other six "wonders?" courage, faith, truth, friendship, family, and common sense. The same old repackaged crap endemic to patent medicine salesmen.
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        • Author by onementalgiant (January 24, 2011 8:45 am ET)
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          Three responses to my post and none of the three express any sense of shame for the threats their fellow leftists make towards Beck - and worse not one mention of how their side includes Beck's family as fair game. Sick.
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          • Author by ILikePizza (January 24, 2011 8:59 am ET)
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            Because we're unwilling to play your stupid game. Glenn Beck is responsible for the hatred toward Ms. Piven, glenn is also responsible for inciting the margins that results in hatred toward him. How can you not understand something that simple?
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          • Author by The_Cat (January 24, 2011 9:24 am ET)
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            Three responses to my post and none of the three express any sense of shame for the threats their fellow leftists make towards Beck...


            Do you get all your exercise jumping to conclusions?
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            • Author by soze169880 (January 24, 2011 10:24 am ET)
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              Teabaggers know that exercise is part of a nefarious plot by Michelle Obama to put fat people in death camps.
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          • Author by magnolialover (January 24, 2011 10:35 am ET)
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            See my response below, where I specifically stated I don't condone threats towards anyone.

            So, again, nice strawman you threw up there.
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 24, 2011 1:17 pm ET)
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            Three responses to my post and none of the three express any sense of shame for the threats their fellow leftists make towards Beck(1mg)


            Well, since it turns out you were just repeating Beck's BS, it's no wonder nobody expressed shame.

            Correction, you didn't simply repeat Beck's BS, you embellished by inventing the idea that these imaginary threats are coming from "fellow leftists".

            Normal people don't feel shame at things crazy people make up. In fact, we don't really feel any emotions but pity and amusement at your gullibility.

            1mg, do you ever get tired of being caught in your lies here, or are you just like your heroes in the media, you just don't care about the truth or your credibility any more?
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            • Author by onementalgiant (January 24, 2011 8:58 pm ET)
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              Ahh, the heck with it. I had typed out a long reply to AK's petty accusations but forget it. He is not worth my time. You and your massive ego continue on your merry way AK.

              One last comment for all you libbies: Psychological help is available for you if you ask. Don't be shy. The sooner you get the help you so desperately need the better for everyone.
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 25, 2011 12:22 am ET)
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                Oh, darn, I'm sure that long reply was fascinating and fact-filled. Thanks for taking the time to type it, but not posting it. Thanks for taking the time to post that you weren't going to post your response.

                Maybe if you took a step toward dealing with your pathological lying, you wouldn't need to post ridiculous gibberish like advising normal people to get psychological help.

                I'm serious,1mg. I know you might think you're too old to do anything about your "condition", but there's always hope.

                I'm rooting for you, little buddy.
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                • Author by onementalgiant (January 25, 2011 10:33 am ET)
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                  Thanks for your kind words of encouragement AK - free of charge too! You always offer us conservatives such great advice and guidelines on any and all topics. And never in a condescending way either!

                  Maybe one day I will achieve your obvious superior intellect. Of course this would be really hard to attain because you're so much smarter then anyone else on planet Earth. But, as they say, set high goals if you wanna lead a glorious life.

                  Now, you have a good day AK - and don't forget to continue to impart your profound advice for us unwashed.

                  Know that you are an extra special guy AK. If I'm lucky maybe someday I'll have the pleasure of actually meeting you at one of your 12 step meetings or perhaps at your Institution. I can only hope.

                  BTW, any chance you can manage my money for me? This would only be until Obama gets all of his policies in place - then he'd take over for you. You know how liberals can spend my money better then I ever could.



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                  • Author by cst (January 25, 2011 11:38 am ET)
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                    I see you STILL didn't post that long, detailed reply to AK... I guess your TWO replacement posts (you know, the ones full of insults but absent of facts) still took less time to write and post than it would have to just click that one button and give us that devestatingly definative dissection of AK's argument...
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                    • Author by onementalgiant (January 25, 2011 3:00 pm ET)
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                      What's this? Did AK ask you to respond on his behalf cst? Has to be, huh? Liberals would NEVER gang up and bully anyone, would they? Nahh, you folks have way too much class.
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                      • Author by MiniTru (January 25, 2011 3:14 pm ET)
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                        This is an open forum. If you don't want multiple people to respond to your foolishness, go post on The Blaze. There you'll be among fellow mental morons.
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          • Author by cugagcmu805031 (January 24, 2011 3:49 pm ET)
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            I've never threatened Beck, and I don't plan to. I don't seek to destroy those who have opinions that differ from my own by inciting others to attack them or think of them as less than human, so you can can the "threats of fellow leftists" BS.
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      • Author by magnolialover (January 24, 2011 8:42 am ET)
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        I, for one, don't condone physical threats against anyone. So, yeah, I think it does matter to me, and it does matter to a lot of people on here.

        Are you trying to say it's OK for this woman, who toiled in obscurity for a very long time in an academic setting to now be brought before the country and exposed to death threats because maybe Beck is also getting threats?

        I'm also fairly certain most of Beck's threats are made up, by himself, to make himself look like a victim of something.
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      • Author by WilliamHolden (January 24, 2011 9:02 am ET)
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        Personally, I condemn threats against any person.

        We are not going to a who has more threats on average contest here, are we?

        You could very well argue his psychological manipulation inspires death treats against him as it does againt other persons. So, I do think it does matter a lot he receives threats also.
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      • Author by RKAllen (January 24, 2011 9:15 am ET)
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        Where did you come up with the figure of "15 threats against him and/or his family at any given time?"

        ... and while we are on the subject...

        - Are these threats documented?
        - Have the responsible parties for these threats been revealed?
        - Has a single person been arrested for any of these threats?
        - When one threat is eliminated, does another threat take its place so that there is always 15 threats... no more, no less?
        - Who told you that Glenn Beck and his fmily lives under a constant state of, "15 threats at any given time?" Let me guess, was if Glenn Beck who told you this?
        - Are you absolutely sure, if these threats do in fact exist, that all of these threats come from a leftist and not a deranged fan or fans?
        - In fact, what proof do you have that these threats come from leftists at all?

        I look forward to your answers.
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        • Author by onementalgiant (January 24, 2011 10:40 am ET)
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          "When one threat is eliminated, does another threat take its place so that there is always 15 threats... no more, no less?"

          Profound comment RKA. And you lefties wonder why us normal people seldom take any of you leftists seriously.

          Beck is the source of the number 15. I care less if you believe him or not. My only point was to let all of you compassionate liberals know that he also has security problems. Based on the hatefulness towards him displayed here, I wouldn't be surprised if the number is accurate. I suspect the number is at least doubled for Palin and her family.

          Remember now - don't forget - liberals inherently have much more empathy and compassion then conservatives. Says so right here on page 23,047 of the "How to be a Good Liberal" manual.
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          • Author by soze169880 (January 24, 2011 11:00 am ET)
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            Based on the hatefulness towards him displayed here, I wouldn't be surprised if the number is accurate

            I bet you're a lawyer.
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            • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 24, 2011 12:36 pm ET)
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              ** snarf**... I just love when brain-damaged logic like that is included in the same post that dishes out some insults about teh leftists not being taken seriously by "normal people".

              You have to admit, soze, you can not prove beyond a doubt that 1mg would be surprised if the number Dear Leader gave him is accurate.
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            • Author by bintx (January 24, 2011 5:00 pm ET)
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              I doubt it.
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          • Author by RKAllen (January 24, 2011 11:23 am ET)
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            Beck is the source of the number 15. I care less if you believe him or not. My only point was to let all of you compassionate liberals know that he also has security problems.
            The only quote that I have found him saying is in a recent interview with Bill O'Reilly in which he makes the extraordinary claim,

            "I have 15 operating threats on me at any given time."
            - Does he provide any evidence at all that there are "15 operating threats" actively going on?
            - Does he suggest that these threats come from the left in the interview with Bill O'Reilly?
            - What does he mean by "operating?" Is he suggesting that it is not only a threat, but active plans that are being carried out by people who have made these threats?
            - Is it at all possible that these "operating threats" are a byproduct of Glenn Beck's own delusional mind?
            - You also suggested that his family was also a target of these "15 threats," yet he makes no mention of any such claim in the interview where he mentions, "15 operating threats.' Where did you get the idea that his family has also been threatened?

            I want to believe Glenn Beck, and if there have been threats against his family or himself, then they should be investigated and the responsible party brought to justice. However, Glenn Beck has provided neither you, nor I, nor any other authority that can be spoken of, evidence that he is currently the target of 15 operational threats.
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          • Author by MidnightWriter (January 24, 2011 11:23 am ET)
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            I'll take Beck on his word that he receives a large number of threats from angry nutcases--just as I'd be willing to take his word if he told us he received a large number of marriage proposals from infatuated nutcases. He's a celebrity and they are going to attract all kinds of unwanted attention.

            It's wrong. People at the center of that kind of attention need to be protected from those kinds of unbalanced people.

            The thing here, OMG, is that Beck has been intentionally shining a spotlight on Piven and presenting her as a part of an underhanded scheme to topple our economic system and do great damage to this nation.

            How do you suppose that's been going over with those in the "Beck is a prophet from God!" crowd?
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          • Author by WilliamHolden (January 24, 2011 11:30 am ET)
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            Poor response.

            If all you have to say on the issue at hand that Beck has also received threats you have contributed absolutely nothing to the topic or anything that most people dont know already.

            I am sure he has received threats. Where is the connection to Piven or MM? Let me guess there is no documentation or anything to connect them to these threats, just your assumption that might be the case.

            False equalization, no argument on the topic, ignoring comments that doesnt fit your presumptions speaks volumes.
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          • Author by MidnightWriter (January 24, 2011 11:48 am ET)
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            By the by, omg, Beck himself just sunk all the concern you've expressed over those death threats he's told us he received.

            You may be aware by now that MMFA has posted the clip of Beck and his loyal minions laughing at a New York Times article that addresses the threats Piven has received. Do listen to it. Hear the grand yuck-fest they're having while they mock the story.

            I, like you, believe anonymous death threats should be taken seriously and should never serve as comic material. But Beck, all too obviously, disagrees, and apparently wouldn't mind if public figures laugh at and mock the threats he's received.

            You'll be sending him and e-mail, or posting something on the Blaze that addresses this contradiction and hypocrisy, yes?
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          • Author by cugagcmu805031 (January 24, 2011 3:54 pm ET)
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            Stop mistaking critical thinking skills for hate/hatred.

            I'm a natural born skeptic, so it's difficult for me to believe anything the majority of people say, even our president.

            Some people accept what others say at face value, but there are others who believe in question and verify. I'm in the latter group of individuals. It has been very beneficial in helping me to avoid making major mistakes when I have to make decisions.
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          • Author by Maimon (January 24, 2011 6:11 pm ET)
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            LEFTIES..lmao...

            That's right we are Commie Pinkos or part of the Red Menace...Are you trapped in 1956?

            I think the world kept moving and you decided to stop. You should get in motion again, you will see how things have changed. We no longer use horses as the main method of transportation, women can vote, we also freed the slaves. Ohh the world is not flat, and polio has been cured.

            Giant, I really like you but I sense alot of hostility. It sounds like you feel marginalized. Not every idea from a liberal has been good, but they are not all bad either.

            Life is about balance...not dogma...not blind faith...and not about ideology.
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      • Author by worrierking (January 24, 2011 9:33 am ET)
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        Do you have a link to back that up? There should be police reports and investigations right?
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 24, 2011 12:32 pm ET)
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          Don't be naive, WK. Beck can't trust the government. I can't believe I had to scroll past several posts before anybody asked the pathologically lying 1mg for a source. Amazingly, I correctly predicted that the source was... Glenn Beck! I'm feeling a bit Criswell right now.

          Also amazing that 1mg doesn't care if anybody believes Beck ( a guy who lies as constantly and uncontrollably as 1mg), 1mg just wants teh libs to "know" things based on the things they're smart enough not to believe.

          OT, but it looks like you have some more weather headed you way. Watch your step this year, eh?
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      • Author by soze169880 (January 24, 2011 10:24 am ET)
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        Beck has an average of 15 threats against him and/or his family at any given time

        Yes, I'm sure he told you that. He also told you reading about liberals is giving him "spiritual wounds".
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      • Author by cst (January 24, 2011 10:53 am ET)
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        [Beck has an average of 15 threats against him and/or his family at any given time ]
        Any evidence to back up this claim? Any at all?
        Actually, I don't really doubt that Beck MAY have recieved one or two threats somewhere along the line, because there have been reports of him asking the FBI for protection- which, of course, makes a lie of Beck's claims that he's worried that the government ITSELF is trying to kill him, doesn't it?
        Considering MagCynic's attempts to distance Glenn from Byron Williams by claiming Williams' is angry AT Beck for "not going far enough"... well, by THAT questionable logic, these "threats" are just as likely to come from a disgruntled former fan as anyone else...
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        • Author by soze169880 (January 24, 2011 11:01 am ET)
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          Any evidence to back up this claim? Any at all?

          Napoleon is always right.
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      • Author by historygeek001 (January 24, 2011 11:21 am ET)
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        Beck has an average of 15 threats against him and/or his family at any given time - not that it matters to the vast majority of those who post here.


        Source?
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        • Author by RKAllen (January 24, 2011 11:29 am ET)
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          Source is a Glenn Beck quote from a Bill O'Reilly interview done sometime last week.

          "I have 15 operating threats on me at any given time."
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          • Author by cst (January 24, 2011 12:23 pm ET)
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            And Glenn Beck would never lie or use hyperbole- ESPECIALLY not to distance himself from his fans response to his violent rhetoric against other.
            But I'm a fair man. I will totally accept Beck's figure as valid- if you can cite even ONE source to back him up.
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (January 24, 2011 12:42 pm ET)
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        Beck has an average of 15 threats against him and/or his family at any given time - not that it matters to the vast majority of those who post here,


        Then of all people, he should KNOW BETTER!
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      • Author by sociocrat (January 24, 2011 1:34 pm ET)
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        "Beck has an average of 15 threats against him and/or his family at any given time"
        First, prove it!
        Second, that would be a terrible tragedy. His minions would take it out on those who are not responsible.
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      • Author by HRN (January 24, 2011 3:01 pm ET)
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        Ummm.....You realize that other fictional television characters receive death threats, too, right?
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      • Author by Maimon (January 24, 2011 6:02 pm ET)
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        Giant, you still spreading your "untruth". LMAO...sigh..

        And Beck is on Fox what do you expect.
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    • Author by kcdad (January 24, 2011 8:56 am ET)
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      Is it illegal or unethical to promise to financially support anyone who would get Beck off the air permanently? I mean, couldn't Fox be paid to severe its contract with him? I mean... they are a business aren't they? Isn't their only interest in him a financial one?

      They certainly wouldn't have any ideological interest in keeping him on the air... would they?
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      • Author by magnolialover (January 24, 2011 10:37 am ET)
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        One could say, they'd save money in their business if they just cancelled his contract. They wouldn't have to pay him. And they would probably generate more advertising revenue during that time slot with him gone.
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      • Author by magnolialover (January 24, 2011 10:37 am ET)
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        One could say, they'd save money in their business if they just cancelled his contract. They wouldn't have to pay him. And they would probably generate more advertising revenue during that time slot with him gone.
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    • Author by DNA (January 24, 2011 10:46 am ET)
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      Oh, I see. All the while I thought George Soros was the real villain.

      Get a life, Glen.
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      • Author by m.welker (January 24, 2011 1:31 pm ET)
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        "I could just walk unarmed to my house in the middle of the night. And I know the police aren't coming."

        Sounds like every day to me. Do people walk around their house armed to the teeth?
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    • Author by Dr. C A Paradox (January 24, 2011 11:18 am ET)
         
      In my faith, we believe in 'The Rede of Three', which states, in essence, that the actions (and the energy used to instigate those actions) we engage in, come back three fold. Beck and his fellow purveyors of spite, hate, and fear will ultimately answer for those actions, not to a deity necessarily, but to the very anger and hate they inspire. These folks may think that their tools will never turn on them, and in thinking this they are sadly mistaken.

      As to the complaining from the right that they have been unfairly connected with the Tuscon shooting, it strikes me as ironic that these same people have no problem with 'profiling' when it suits their interests, and has been pointed out in other forums, they seemingly can dish it out but they can't take it . .
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    • Author by hugacat7374 (January 24, 2011 11:38 am ET)
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      I sometimes wonder if Glenn doesn't want the people he singles out killed or buildings shot/blown up of the organizations he singles out.
      The constant spewing of 'I've never advocated violence' seems like he's trying to prove himself innocent before anything even happens. Then, when it does, he can point to it and say 'Look how angry the American people are with Hope & Change. I didn't tell him/her to do that, that's just because he/she saw the truth & decided to take action.'
      I think what's even worse is that he's only saying these things so he can take home a bigger paycheck. I bet he's yuckin' it up all the way to the bank thinking 'I can't believe these rubes are buying this'.
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    • Author by titoista (January 24, 2011 12:51 pm ET)
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      this is where free speech goes over the line into incitement of violence against others.if something happens to her,beck should be held accountable for incitement,and an accessory.this happens all of the time in our judicial system,and it should definitely apply to these morons.
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      • Author by gman004 (January 24, 2011 1:58 pm ET)
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        You are a Jack-Ass! Glen beck only shows what Piven says ,in her words,on video tape,yet he is being blamed for death threats?Get real people,Beck doesn't tell us anything that can't be looked up.Cloward and Piven have been working this level the playing field strategy for decades,and thank God for Glen who is showing us who they really are and what they really want,try watching the showyou will definately learn something.You have even heard our joke of a president say the same thing about leveling the playing field,but what they don't tell you is how it will destroy our wealth in favor of trash countries that have no ambition or drive to succeed.Soros,Piven,Cloward,Van JOnes,and Bil Ayers should all be in prison for the bombings and violence they committed in the 60's and 70's.
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        • Author by WilliamHolden (January 24, 2011 2:17 pm ET)
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          You need to get away from GlennBeckistan for a few days. You are just repeating what he has told you. You have neither a clue who Beck is nor who Piven is.
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          • Author by gman004 (January 24, 2011 2:32 pm ET)
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            And you will enlighten me I guess, lol, fat chance,and no, I maybe quoting what I have seen and heard on the Beck show,and it is all true you idiot,go look up Cloward and Piven,or Soros,or Van Jones or Bill Ayers,they say the crap themselves,how they want to collapse the system,or so they say,are they lying?How would you know?I don't think they are lying,they want a one world government in which they make the rules.So in closing,it is you that knows nothing,and that is pretty obvious to anybody,try reading instead of sitting.
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            • Author by WilliamHolden (January 24, 2011 2:59 pm ET)
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              Folks who say it is all true you idiot about their source that is proven wrong with practically every new airing should really take some time to reflect on their childlike arguments, grow up and join the debate after that.

              Your heroe Glenn Beck is lying to you. Everyday.

              No excuse for you to sound like a poor version of him.

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            • Author by HRN (January 24, 2011 3:19 pm ET)
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              When you're on tehblaze, doesn't it ever bother you that all the links they provide point to......tehblaze?
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          • Author by Gaius Gracchus (January 24, 2011 7:30 pm ET)
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            Really and you do? I doubt that you have any idea of just who Piven is and what she advocates.
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        • Author by n'est-ce pas (January 24, 2011 3:27 pm ET)
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          Yeah, and Breitbart only showed what Shirley Sherrod said, "in her own words, on video tape [sic]." George Soros committed "bombings and violence is the 60's [sic] and 70's ]sic]?" Really? And so did Richard Cloward, Frances Fox Piven, and Van Jones? Shoot, Jones was born in 1968, you dumb wingnut. Bill Ayers did indeed commit some bombings, and he probably would have done some jail time if the FBI hadn't committed illegal acts while surveilling him. He isn't charged with any criminal activity, so why should he be in prison? You're a weird on, throwing out reckless, untrue charges of criminal misconduct against perfect strangers for the political gain of your team. That's pretty despicable, really.

          And why don't we talk about the so-called Cloward-Piven Strategy was? It was an attempt to force the Democratic Party to face the fact that their public welfare programs were inadequate to address the true depth of poverty in America. They wanted to help poor people. Their strategy for doing so, the eponymous "Cloward-Piven" strategy, was to execute a nationwide welfare drive. They contended that many people who needed welfare didn't sign up for it. The system they wanted to crash? Yeah, that would be the welfare system, not the economic system as claimed by Glenn Beck. It was thought that such an emergent situation would bring an effective reform to the way we address poverty in this country. That's really, really not evil. At least not until your college dropout failed shock jock real life Howard Beale got ahold of them and made them out to be something that they certainly were not.
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          • Author by WilliamHolden (January 24, 2011 3:50 pm ET)
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            All good points. To add, of all guys Soros who has really done a lot in promoting and supporting democracy, especially in Eastern Europe he is made out to be a commie, nazi, evil, puppet master.

            Beck and his fellaws are repeating all what authoritaring rulers in Eastern Europe have said for the last 15 years to discredit Soros.
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          • Author by Gaius Gracchus (January 24, 2011 7:34 pm ET)
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            It was an attempt to force the Democratic Party to face the fact that their public welfare programs were inadequate to address the true depth of poverty in America.


            You have no idea of what poverty is. Your entire statement would be amusing if it were not so pathetic.
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            • Author by MiniTru (January 25, 2011 3:23 pm ET)
                 
              You have no idea of what poverty is.
              And you do?

              Don't make me laugh.
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        • Author by ccreadme (January 24, 2011 5:08 pm ET)
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          But, he always adds the words that she is "evil" or "trying to destroy America"...Her words are from an acedemic viewpoint, with a lot of "if, then" statements.....She is hardly a revolutionary and barely had an audience, until you and Bleckkk gave her one.

          True Liberals are 100% against violence.
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          • Author by Gaius Gracchus (January 24, 2011 7:28 pm ET)
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            Really?
            An effective movement of the unemployed will have to look something like the strikes and riots that have spread across Greece in response to the austerity measures forced on the Greek government by the European Union, or like the student protests that recently spread with lightning speed across England in response to the prospect of greatly increased school fees.
            The Nation
            I think you are mistaken
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            • Author by MiniTru (January 25, 2011 3:24 pm ET)
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              The same debunked paragraph is presented yet again by the idiocracy.
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          • Author by wareagle (January 24, 2011 8:55 pm ET)
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            I love to see the peaceful true liberals that riot anytime the G 20 gets together.
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            • Author by Johaely (January 25, 2011 9:25 am ET)
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              You mean the anarchists, who advocate no government whatsoever but somehow its in line with your stereotype of liberals as goverment loving commies?
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              • Author by wareagle (January 25, 2011 12:29 pm ET)
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                What about the "peaceful" protesters that threaten and sometimes chase off conservative speakers at Columbia University.

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                • Author by Johaely (January 25, 2011 1:16 pm ET)
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                  They are no different than the tea partiers doing the same. Its people using their freedom of speech to protest the visit of somebody they wish would not be there.
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                  • Author by wareagle (January 25, 2011 5:04 pm ET)
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                    So threats of violence against speakers at a college is OK?

                    Dont think so son.
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                    • Author by Johaely (January 25, 2011 6:51 pm ET)
                         
                      They aren't. Never said they were. But i know what you are talking about, and you seem to conflate the people protesting the presence of people like Ann Coulter, with the people who push it and outright threathen them. I in no way support those people.
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        • Author by Maimon (January 24, 2011 5:43 pm ET)
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          Firstly let's deal in FACTS. Beck and other rightwingers claimed Soros took land from jews, which was retracted from the original paper that printed the story. The truth was Soros was hidden from the Nazis by a man who's job was to expropriate land. Soros was 14 and being hidden from the Nazis by this person.

          Van jones was born in 1968, very hard to hold him responsible for any "bombings" in the 1960's or the 1970's. Calling oneself a communist is not illegal. You may not like it, but it is not a crime. And he was not claiming to be a communist, he was simply admiring aspects or ideas held within communism.

          -Should George W Bush and Dick Cheney be in jail for misleading the Congress on going to war in 2003? There is a sea of CIA, Mossad and MI-5 documents detailing how no WMDs existed and that there were no conections between Saddm and Al-Queda.

          -Dick Cheney and Scooter Libby outed a CIA operative, this is actually a treasonable offence. Did I mention that the use of "waterboarding" is considered a form of torture under the Geneva Convention? Technically this means signators like Canada, U.K. France and other countries are" Obligated" to persue them as " potential war criminals".

          You like to disseminate false memes. Stop reading Cleon Skousen and buying into the myths.

          So you know we deal with Israelis politicians all the time, they were once seen as terrorists too. Yitzak Shamir was wanted by the British, We also deal with Sinn Fein which is essentially the political wing of the IRA.

          So go be a follower of a dead Bircher who lied and is being channeled by Beck.

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          • Author by Gaius Gracchus (January 24, 2011 7:25 pm ET)
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            Soros has bragged that he disrupted the economies of several countries that he did not like and has said he will "Change" the USA to a more socialist style country.
            Van Jones is a self avowed Communist who has spoken in favor of the violent over throw of the USA. Seeing a pattern yet?
            President Bush has been investigated and cleared of any misrepresentation by the Congress and President Obama has had over 2 years to Charge him with any wrong doing. Hmmm just maybe you are blowing smoke?
            The CIA operative that was outed by Scooter Libby was not an active agent so not covered by the law you are probably unaware exists for the protection of agents. She was acting as a political agent for the Democratic party and with her Husband was spreading disinformation. Once again you are wrong.
            Don't know about the Israeli but given your track record for misinformation I would bet that you have that wrong also.
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            • Author by Maimon (January 24, 2011 11:14 pm ET)
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              I think you need to look at our own backyard before you go chasing Beckian dreams of Soros. KOCH BROTHERS. So you know he "bragged" or did you pick that word for effect? I know many people that have an impact on this country, judges, politicians and captains of industry. They all claim to be changing things. And please, Beck talks about having a revolution weekly. Beck also thinks socialism is communism, which is fascism which is nazism. They are not the same. Talk about poor research.

              WRONG she was an active case officer, who often had worked covertly. You are never " off duty" if you are a case officer. Libby lied under FBI questioning as to the source of the leak. You need to look it up. And it is not just the agent that is coverd under the law, so is the mission that an agent is charged to fufill. I think you need to do your research. The release of any information on a current officer/agent or operation is a crime. For a person that claims to have accurate information, you sure seem to make alot of mistakes.

              And I am acutely aware of the laws involved. Just like the Patriot act is a violation of the law aswell. It is not permissable for a US agency to listen to a "Private" radiated broadcast of US citizen without a warrant. No if ands or buts about it. You have to apply to a special court for such a warrant. Ohh wait unless make up a thing called the Patriot Act.

              As far as Bush and Cheney, why do you think Bush was told NOT to go the UK? No smoke, look up the Conventions articles on torture and how the signators are charged to pursue war criminals. They have done nothing simply because the articles are only enforced top down, not bottom up. The perk of being the hegemonic power right , enforce the rules, but don't play by them. Again, you failed to enlighten anyone.

              Van Jones never talked of "violent revolution" he claimed to admire some of the communist ideals and in some instances considered himself a communist. Like millions of university students do every day. And he certainly did speak out against civil right abuses. Again being a communist is not a crime. Look it up. I think you are making up quotes now. There is no pattern. Also, Michelle Bachman was talking about how "revolution every 20 years might be a good thing". I know she is quoting a Founding Father, but man that sound like communism!!! I had no idea the Tea Party was a communist movement...Mannn....I'm stunned.

              The Prime Minister of Israel Yirzak Shamir was a member of the Leh'i, also called the Stern Gang. He was a prisoner of the British and escaped, he was one of 3 who ordered the assassination of Un representative Folke Bernadotte.

              Another Prime Minister of Israel Menachem Begin who was a member of the Irgun, another underground group in British Palestine, carried out the bombing of the King David Hotel.

              Seeing as how you have not proven or disproven anything you are simply trying to spread your false memes. Also, your gaps in global history are sad...I'm guessing US education?
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              • Author by Gaius Gracchus (January 25, 2011 10:50 am ET)
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                So you know he "bragged" or did you pick that word for effect?

                I see you agree that Mr. Soros did do his best to damage/destroy several national economies. Good it is always nice to start out these discussions with a basis of fact.
                WRONG she was an active case officer, who often had worked covertly.

                Unfortunately you are incorrect. While she had worked in one covert position she was a desk worked in DC. Please correct your rhetoric to reflect the facts.
                Ohh wait unless make up a thing called the Patriot Act.

                Just possible you missed this small fact? Obama and the Patriot Act
                Bush was told NOT to go the UK?

                Really? You actually have a credible source for that statement?
                Van Jones never talked of "violent revolution"

                I am glad you that agree violence to "force" change in a direction the violent desire is not an option. However considering that Mr. Jones participation in STORM is troubling to say the least. STORM
                you are simply trying to spread your false memes

                Why would you say such a thing since we agree on most of the facts as I posted. (All be it you do choose to twist those facts and take them out of context) You keep trying and read a little more broadly and you may come to some type of enlightenment some day.
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                • Author by MiniTru (January 25, 2011 3:50 pm ET)
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                  I see you agree that Mr. Soros did do his best to damage/destroy several national economies.
                  Started right out with another straw man, did ya, Gaius? Good to start right off with some logical idiocy, isn't it? You're staying true to form, I see.
                  Unfortunately you are incorrect. While she had worked in one covert position she was a desk worked in DC.
                  managing covert activities, some of which were exposed by Scooter's treason. Please correct your rhetoric to reflect the facts.
                  I am glad you that agree violence to "force" change in a direction the violent desire is not an option.
                  And yet another straw man. You have populated entire straw communities with your logical fallacies.
                  Why would you say such a thing since we agree on most of the facts as I posted.
                  I saw no agreement at all, other than your reaching and twisting in vain to provide some.
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            • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 25, 2011 1:37 am ET)
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              Seeing a pattern yet?


              Yeah, you seem very gullible, and pretty consistently confused about everything.

              Nature gave you something resembling a human brain. If you use it enough, you'll find it can work independently of Fox "news".

              I know, it's scary, but try it. You won't be sorry.
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              • Author by Gaius Gracchus (January 25, 2011 10:59 am ET)
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                Well that is a nice diatribe but you neglected to support your assertions. (Now here is where you say that you don't have to support such obvious truths etc...) It is always nice to discuss things with you people since you all are so dependable. When challenged you seldom provide facts depending on uncivil and insulting responses (gullible, confused) as an answer. Well keep trying maybe someday you will discover that facts work better than invective when you intend something other than rabble rousing.
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                • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 25, 2011 11:57 am ET)
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                  I don't see any assertions I made that need any further proof. Let me know if there's something specific I can clarify for you.

                  What you wrote was just a bunch of paranoid factoids. Let's take the first line in the post that I responded to;

                  Soros ... has said he will "Change" the USA to a more socialist style country.


                  Maimon already brought up the "bragged" part, which you dodged and tried to deflect to some imagined agreement, so I'll see if you do any better with the second part.

                  Can you provide a link to the quote from Soros saying what you claim he said ?

                  Do that, and you'll be one step up from the bottom of that hole you've dug.

                  Good luck.
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    • Author by CCinRI (January 24, 2011 5:10 pm ET)
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      Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes and Glenn Beck in particular need to be held responsible if, in the wake of Tucson, their incendiary rhetoric provokes another attack or killing. As forewarned is fairwarned, they continue fanning the flames of maddness and must be prosecuted as accessories before the fact if a crime of violence results from their negligence; it is wi malice aforethought.
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      • Author by Gaius Gracchus (January 24, 2011 7:15 pm ET)
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        Really, please tell me why since no other than Preaident Obama saied that political retoric had nothing to do with the insane attack?
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        • Author by MiniTru (January 25, 2011 3:52 pm ET)
             
          Really, please tell me why since no other than Preaident (sic) Obama saied (sic) that political retoric (sic) had nothing to do with the insane attack?
          You are one (sic) individual.
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    • Author by liberalpropaganda (January 24, 2011 7:14 pm ET)
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      you people are stupid...

      You blame everyone but the person who actually went out and made a death threat...

      Maybe they are to blame...

      But that would make too much sense...
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      • Author by Johaely (January 24, 2011 8:18 pm ET)
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        If somebody instigated another person to harm you, who is responsible? The person who harmed you or the person who instigated?
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        • Author by kkrooss3327 (January 25, 2011 9:50 am ET)
             
          Both.

          That's how they try crime bosses who order a hit.
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        • Author by Gaius Gracchus (January 25, 2011 11:04 am ET)
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          Why I should think that Frances Fox Piven is definately resopnsiable. What do you think?
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          • Author by cst (January 25, 2011 11:39 am ET)
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            LITERALLY "blaming the victim", eh?
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          • Author by MiniTru (January 25, 2011 3:53 pm ET)
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            Why I should think that Frances Fox Piven is definately (sic) resopnsiable (sic). What do you think?
            I think you're an illiterate moron.
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    • Author by kkrooss3327 (January 25, 2011 9:48 am ET)
         
      Inspire? I'd say he insigates violence.
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    • Author by villabolo (January 25, 2011 4:40 pm ET)
         
      It's time we started calling psychopaths like Glenn Becks and company, in tandem with their inspired homicidal maniacs who do their dirty work for them, by this proper phrase:

      Right wing death squads.
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    • Author by mamaearth (January 25, 2011 6:49 pm ET)
         
      Beck used Piven's own words...From her mouth, from her writings from her videos....

      She can't deny she said them or wrote them....They were not taken out of context.

      The Nation has her "Weight of the Poor" strategy in its archives..It can be read in its entirety. They also have her article from a few weeks ago.

      You can't spin the truth, no matter how hard you try.

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