"Birther Idiot" From "The Fringe Elements" At Glenn Beck's The Blaze
Glenn Beck's website The Blaze is promoting Donald Trump's demand that Obama show his birth certificate, arguing that Trump's "logic is hard to argue with." Beck himself has repeatedly criticized the birther movement, calling birthers "idiot[s]" and "the fringe elements."
Beck's Website: Trump's Birther "Logic Is Hard To Argue With"
The Blaze: Trump's "Logic" On Obama's Birth Certificate "Is Hard To Argue With." Beck's website The Blaze featured an article headlined, "'Let Him Show His Birth Certificate': Trump Propels Birther Rumors on 'The View.'" In the article, Meredith Jessup, assistant editor of The Blaze, wrote:
It's interesting that Trump continues to bring this issue up. The Left loves to paint so-called "birthers" as crazy right-wing wackos. But as a household name, Trump obviously yields a bully pulpit similar to figures like Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin who try and avoid the issue.
Does it suggest Trump will make a run for the White House? Not necessarily, but the man's logic is hard to argue with... unless you're like Goldberg and quickly dismiss the enforcement of the Constitution's residency requirement as "BS" aimed at attacking America's first black president. [The Blaze, 3/23/11]
Beck Previously Called Birthers "Idiot[s]" And "The Fringe Elements"
Beck Calls Birthers "The Fringe Elements." From the February 17, 2010 edition of Beck's Fox News show:
BECK: OK. I showed you this chart yesterday and I said, you know, you're -- this is you kind of in the middle. The vast majority of people are in the middle. Conservatives over here, progressives are over here and the fringe elements -- the birthers and the 9/11 truthers are on this side with the progressives, and the birthers and the 9/11 truthers are over here with the conservatives as well.
But there is also something else over here. In fact, let me just flip this -- let me flip this over if I can and show you what the -- is it on this side, Erin? Let me show you what's on the other side here because it's not really right.
I was thinking about it last night and it's really not -- it's really not a straight line like that. It's more of a circle. OK?
Here are the total government people, right here. They meet here. You've got the progressives over here. You've got the anarchists, and I don't know, fascists, you know? The people who are hiding in the hills with their Nazi style. I don't even know who those people are.
But here they are. They're here -- on the left and the right, the crazy people that don't really like America. Got it?
In this group, you have communists like Van Jones. You have -- he's a 9/11 truther. You have Medina.
Now, I don't think -- she's not a communist, she's not an anarchist, she's really more of a -- this is a woman running for Texas governor. But she is a 9/11 truther or at least thinks that there is some good questions that haven't been answered. I'll agree with you but one of them is not: did George Bush blow up the World Trade Center?
Here's Alan Keyes, he's a birther.
This guy -- what is this guy's name again? He's a Democrat. He's one of the original birthers. What he's name? Phillip Berg? He's a Democrat. He was the first birther, or one of the first ones.
OK. So, you have these people. Then here, you have about -- maybe -- maybe her, about half. These people are the people that will just say, "No, it's the Republicans," "No, it's the Democrats." Have you noticed they're going back-and-forth and they're saying the same things? [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 2/17/10, via Nexis]
Beck Calls Birtherism A Conspiracy Theory, Says Birthers "Look Like" "Flat Earthers." From the August 4, 2009 edition of Beck's radio show:
BECK: Everybody says, everybody says, "why is Barack Obama not just producing the birth certificate?" Ok, first of all, he did. And you're never going to get, you're never going to get a conspiracy theory to stop. You're never.
BURGUIERE: Never.
BECK: I mean, we got a moon rock, sitting in the Smithsonian, and people don't -- I mean, you're never going to quell a conspiracy theory.
PAT GRAY: It's from the Arizona desert.
(laughter)
BECK: So --
GRAY: I'm just saying.
BECK: But, let me tell you this. One of the reasons why he doesn't just come out is because it is so great for him because it immediately marginalizes anybody who says that kind of stuff. It makes them immediately look like they're flat earthers. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 8/4/09]
Beck Refers To The "Birther Idiot." On the August 5, 2009 edition of his Fox News show, Beck said the following, after playing an ad condemning extremist Republican "mobs":
BECK: Had enough of the mob. I know I have been trying to get a hold of all the union people at the White House right now, telling them the same thing, I'm tired of the mob. Did I just say that out loud?
Out of the thousands of protestors, you notice the birther idiot is the only one the media continues to show over and over and over again? She's the only individual highlighted from this ad and the DNC, and then the ad dives into some sort of third grade, "They lost the election, boo- hoo."
Now, they're claiming the GOP has just released their fake angry mobsters to protest. GOP robots, you are now activated. Come alive! [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 8/5/09]
Beck Asks His Listeners To "Run Away From The Birther Movement." From the April 6, 2010 edition of Beck's radio show:
GLENN BECK: We're talking about this new audio from Michelle Obama, came out in 2008.
PAT GRAY: New to us, anyway.
BECK: Yeah, new to us.
GRAY: Almost two years old.
BECK: Yeah and it's starting to make the rounds, and I'm telling you, I'm telling you, please, run away from the birther movement. Run away. Let's just -- let's, let's just say, here's the case that people always make: Well it's against the Constitution, you care about the Constitution. Let's just say we live on another planet where everything is upside down and you're right. Do you really think that that's the most pressing issue today, that that's the one, that's the one that's gonna bring this guy down. Really? That one -- The birther issue. It's the biggest waste of time I have ever, ever seen. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 4/6/10]
Beck: Politicians "Must Not Excuse Birthers." From the February 18, 2010 edition of Beck's Fox News show:
BECK: OK. Let's look at the crazies. This is what I showed you last night. Here's the guy who filed the first birther lawsuit in Pennsylvania. He's a Democrat.
Here's the strongest probably birther on the right.
Here's a 9/11 truther. He hasn't killed anybody. But I certainly don't agree with his policies.
Now, I put Deb Medina up, she's running for governor in Texas. It's really not fair but I just don't have any name or any famous person that is a 9/11 truther on the right. But they're there.
Deb Medina who is running for governor of Texas is really here, just like Barack Obama is. It's OK. It's OK.
No, no, it wasn't OK when Barack Obama had him over here because this man is dangerous. He hasn't done anything. But he is -- he's not somebody who believes in the republic. He doesn't believe that our system is good; it's just been corrupted and needs to be reset.
No, no, no. No, no, no. Dangerous. I don't care if he's on the left or on the right.
And these people, no matter who they are, it could be a Republican, it could be George Bush. It doesn't matter. Lindsey Graham, I don't care who it is. These people must not excuse birthers.
Now, I suppose on the right, you could say we had Timothy McVeigh. But on the left, we've had William Ayers and we have Jeff Jones. These are the Weather Underground bombers.
These guys have been excused by politicians -- not just Barack Obama but here in New York. Jeff Jones is part of the Apollo Alliance, helped writing the stimulus package, helping the state of New York spend the stimulus package. He blew buildings up and so did he -- so did he.
Just like today. Just like today. No difference. This man must be condemned.
They have no place around politics. And while all of these people will excuse because it's fueled, they'll excuse radicals, because, "I don't know, it's just a -- I don't really listen to them. And besides, they really believe, they get out and they really make a difference." They're a danger to the republic.
Every single politician -- every single one -- must distance themselves from radicals. They must distance themselves from radicals, because they're just as dangerous as this one. This man has already done. These guys -- these two -- let's put it up -- these guys have already done violence. Nobody else has, but these have. [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 2/18/10, via Nexis, emphasis added]
Beck Mocks Birthers For Believing Obama To Be The "Manchurian Candidate." From the January 4, 2010 edition of Beck's radio show:
BECK: Today there is a concerted effort on all radio stations to get birthers on the air. I have to tell you, are you working for the Barack Obama administration? I mean, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. First of all, let me just, let me just, let's just play these out. If you're a birther, you believe that the president of the United States was born in, they think Kenya, right? So he was--
STU BURGUIERE: Anywhere outside of here, I guess, but yeah.
BECK: Anywhere outside of the United States, so they believe he was born in Kenya.
GRAY: I think it was Manawaniahawa.
BURGUIERE: Really? It could be.
BECK: So you believe that he was born outside of the United States of America. And then somehow or another, he became, and I saw this movie with Frank Sinatra, oh yeah, it's called The Manchurian Candidate. So somehow or another, maybe he was indoctrinated, or whatever, and then he came over here and he ran and became president.
BURGUIERE: Well, also you gotta remember that he pre-emptively planted his birth announcements in the Hawaii newspapers back when he was actually born.
GRAY: Knowing, I mean his parents actually knew at the time that this man would become president.
BECK: That's what they want you to think. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 1/4/10]

















Now there's a pulpit worth yearning for.
This is weird. I just got done describing Beck as an anti-birther on some site today only to find out that The Blaze is now promoting Trump's idiotic pandering to the dumbest of the Republican base!
This isn't hypocrisy; it is an example of the kids disobeying the parent or workers flipping the bird at the boss. It's really strange to see the Blaze support Trump's "logic." I'm going to have to dig into this.
Beck keeps us way too busy.
So it's no wonder he's a birther, because birthers are racists.
Those who push this birther nonsense are politically driven, there is no evidence that all birthers are racists.
But to be honest, I actually was saying that I believe that all birthers are racists.
Own it.
My question is this: Why?
Why is it okay to question President Obama's birth when proof has been provided? Why is it okay to question his religion when we have that thing called the 1st Amendment?
Why is it okay to assume his political decisions come from some form of racial resentment (looking at you Huckabee)?
I'll tell you why these people think its okay - because they see him as something different than themselves..something less American than his presidential predecessors. Now, it can't be his politics. Presidents in the past have done similar things. Can't be the money, because taxes are lower than they've been in a while.
So what is the difference between President Obama and every other president in history? I'll come out and say it since connect the dots is hard - it's because a lot of people aren't okay with a black man in the White House and are using this birther nonsense as an excuse to hide their racism.
And no, there is nothing inherently racist about claiming someone was not born here. How do you get that? It's been proven to be a baseless bunch of nonsense to try and invalidate a president the loony right despises, the same way the loony right despised Clinton and tried to do the same to him with trumped up baloney.
And if you are inferring I never acknowledge racism based on this birther idiocy, that is just ridiculous. I acknowledge it when I see it. Not until.
1. No, it is not racist to claim someone wasn't born here. It IS racist to continue to make said claim despite presented evidence that he is indeed a US citizen as these birthers are prone to do in an attempt to portray him as something other than American.
2. Just because you haven't seen something does not mean it doesn't exist. I haven't ever seen the Great Lakes, but I'm sure they're real.
Even McCain, who was actually born outside the country, never had his citizenship doubted by anyone with any level of influence on the left.
Beck likes to come off as an anti-racist, but I'm going to be posting a piece later today that shows one of his defenders to be clearly a racist.
What was on the chopper at the front of a Simpson's episode? "Not Racist But #1 With Racists."
Indeed!
It's true, but since something like that is too tough to accept and doesn't sound pc enough, we will just stick with convincing the people that the black prison population is the fault of white folk and their privilege.
"we will just stick with convincing the people that the black prison population is the fault of white folk and their privilege." - doughboy
Now, that is classis race-baiting, righton.
Hawain birth certificates of this period are IDENTICAL to the one the President has.
You simply refuse to admit it...cause you are afraid.
Where in the Constitution is it written that a candidate has to supply a birth certificate to become President?
I take it you voted for W. "Where" was the proof of WMD's? Bush,
Cheney and Rumsfeld should be tried for war crimes and you Wing Nuts are worried about a birth certificate?
Lame.
threw his hat in the ring. There are many websites showing his certificate of live birth/birth certificate, but the factcheck link below has 9close-up links of the certificate..... If people are so IGNORANT and don't want to believe the Hawaii officials,...then let them be, as NO ONE with any
IQ would believe the Birther conspiracy. And NO ONE would VOTE for anyone that believed it....
Donald, are you listening?
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
What about mentioning that Hawaii newspaper clipping? Doesn't that, like, shatter the whole birther movement in seconds? Maybe we can try that.
Sadly, there might not be a single pro-choice Birther on this planet, so an informed discussion on this will never actually happen.
Even if the president were born on Mars, he was born to an American citizen, making him a natural born American citizen and entitled to all of the benefits of natural citizenship.
I don't care what anyone else says, this smacks of racism. The same article that makes foreign born John McCain a natural citizen would make any children born to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama natural citizens too.
I will leave you the same post as I did BoulderHippy. Check out the link below,... and THEN COME BACK AND STATE YOUR CASE!
Birthers KNOW Barack Obama was born in the United States, they just want people to fight about the subject. World Net Daily website (as far right as you can get) started this rumor when Obama threw his
in the ring. There are many websites showing his "Certificate of Live Birth/Birth Certificate," but the factcheck link below has 9 close-up links of the certificate..... If people are so IGNORANT and don't want to believe the Hawaii officials,...then let them be, as NO ONE with any IQ would believe the Birther conspiracy. And NO ONE would VOTE for anyone that believed it....
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
It is. If you don't have the original birth certificate that was created right after the birth, then you get what Obama showed to FactCheck. In New York State, you still get a replica of the long form. My copy that I got a few years ago so I could get a passport shows the signature of the doctor who died a month after I was born.
Some government official in Hawaii wanted to show the public more of the underlying data, but he was told that he couldn't do that. What we got is the best they can do.
so an 18 year old American born citizen, with both American parents is being claimed to be 'provisional' in their minds? what about the thousands of US college students studying abroad?
It doesn't.
You said "there seems to be a problem..."
That's saying that you think that there's a problem! That's saying that you agreed with the hypothesis. You've said that despite that problem, since he's already been elected, it's now a moot point (another thing I disagree with), but you did, in fact, say that you thought that it was a problem.
The rule you're speaking of has no relevance to Obama since he was born in Hawaii to a US citizen in 1961. Here's a link to the info - it only applies if one was born outside of the USA to a US citizen.
http://shusterman.com/uscitizenshipchart1.html
You're the one who wrote "There seems to be a problem.....".
If you meant to write other words, then the problem is that you didn't write other words. I simply read the words that you wrote.
You said that it's a moot point - that despite the problems that you believe are there, it's too late to do anything about it! So, clearly, if it weren't too late to do something about it, if it weren't a moot point, then you'd think that something should be done about it!
Your words weren't misunderstood. You're lying now. Now, you might have used the wrong words, but all I did was fairly interpret your words.
It was never a problem though. That was a strawman argument by birthers who stripped the context from one paragraph from citizenship laws either from ignorance or dishonesty.
Wrong, wrong, wrong!!! You couldn't be more wrong. It is NOT a moot point. Obama is still president. He'll be running for re-election. These are lies meant to brand him as "the other" and "not one of us".
You wrote what you wrote. If you didn't mean what you actually wrote, then you should have written something different. The problem is all yours.
It wasn't a problem that his mother didn't live in the USA for some period of time after she turned 16 or 18. You said it was.
Maybe you didn't mean that, but you said that. If you didn't mean what you wrote, you should have written what you did mean! The onus is on you to write what you mean, or apologize for failing to do so. The onus isn't on me to give a different meaning to what you wrote in order to make you look better!
I was attacking what you originally wrote. Then I was attacking your pretense that the problem was with other's interpretations of the meaning of the words you wrote, rather than the fact that the problem was with the words that you wrote. If you believe differently than what you wrote, terrific. That still doesn't make it our fault that you said something you didn't really mean.
I have no opinion about you. What you wrote, that there was a problem due to the fact that she didn't live in the USA for long enough after he was born, is a lie. It will always be a lie. It was always told to deceive people. Good people tell lies sometimes, and scoundrels often tell the truth.
I know you guys hate Obama so much that you'll do anything to tear him down, but really.. the birther thing is tired and old, and now, just plain ol' sad.
You said it was a problem. You said that it was a problem, but that it was water under the bridge because he was already president.
It's not our fault for repeatedly telling you that it wasn't a problem! It would have only been a problem if he'd been born outside the USA, and he wasn't.
He has released his certificate of live birth. There's a difference. Now, as far as the State Dept is concerned, there's everything needed to prove citizenship on the COLB.
See my posts above - Hannity is raising a distinction without a difference to mislead and confuse.