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"Healthy Meal": The Right-Wing Media Rages Against Healthier Happy Meals

July 27, 2011 11:38 am ET — 71 Comments

Following McDonald's decision to offer "more nutritionally-balanced" Happy Meals and First Lady Michelle Obama's praise of its move, the right-wing media jumped to attack McDonald's for supposedly bending to the will of the "fat police" and making Happy Meals "less happy." However, numerous studies show that childhood obesity leads to significant health problems, and moreover, McDonald's reportedly made their decision in part so that parents could feel "less guilty" about buying their kids Happy Meals.

McDonald's Makes Apple Slices A Regular Part Of "Happy Meal"

McDonald's "Announces Commitments To Offer Improved Nutrition Choices." From a July 26 McDonald's press release:

Today, McDonald's USA president Jan Fields announced the company's "Commitments to Offer Improved Nutrition Choices." The comprehensive plan aims to help customers -- especially families and children -- make nutrition-minded choices whether visiting McDonald's or eating elsewhere.

Menu changes underway include the addition of more nutritionally-balanced choices that meet McDonald's reputation for great taste and affordability, along with an increased focus on providing nutrition information that enable customers and employees to make simple, informed menu decisions.

"McDonald's will always try to do the right thing, and we know we can help make a difference in our communities," said Jan Fields, president, McDonald's USA. "The commitments we're announcing today will guide the future evolution of our menu and marketing." [McDonald's, 7/26/11]

CNN.com: "Happy Meal Gets A Makeover." A July 26 CNN.com article reported:

McDonald's Happy Meals are getting their fat and calories trimmed, the fast food giant announced Tuesday.

The seemingly ubiquitous Happy Meals that have drawn the ire of health advocates and have been blamed for contributing to childhood obesity, will carry apple slices, reduced portion of french fries and a choice of beverage, including new fat-free chocolate milk and 1% low-fat white milk.

The core of the Happy Meal will remain the same as kids will still get fries (a smaller portion) and a choice of a hamburger, cheeseburger or chicken nuggets.   All beverages, including milk, fruit juice, water and soda, continue to be options for the Happy Meal.

The changes are scheduled to begin September with the hopes that all 14,000 restaurants will transition to the new Happy Meals by the first quarter of 2012. [CNN.com, 7/26/11]

First Lady Praised McDonald's For "Providing More Fruit And Reducing The Calories In Its Happy Meals." On July 26, First Lady Michelle Obama issued the following statement regarding McDonald's announcement:

McDonald's is making continued progress today by providing more fruit and reducing the calories in its Happy Meals.  I've always said that everyone has a role to play in making America healthier, and these are positive steps toward the goal of solving the problem of childhood obesity.  McDonald's has continued to evolve its menu, and I look forward to hearing about the progress of today's commitments, as well as efforts in the years to come. [Let's Move, 7/26/11]

Right-Wing Media Outlets Rally Against Healthy Alternative, Blame First Lady For Change

Fox Responds To McDonald's "Fat Police" With Outrage Over "Happy" Being Lost In "Healthy Meal."  During the July 26 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, the co-hosts repeatedly attacked McDonald's for voluntarily making Happy Meals healthier, claiming, in the words of Steve Doocy, that "there's about to be no more happy in your Happy Meals" because "they're being replaced with the healthy meal." [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 7/26/11 via Media Matters]

HotAir: "McDonald's To Revamp Happy Meals Because You're Too Dumb To Watch What Your Kids Eat." In a July 26 HotAir post titled, "McDonald's to revamp Happy Meals because you're too dumb to watch what your kids eat," AllahPundit wrote:

Fair headline? Well, until now, when ordering a Happy Meal you had a choice between the traditional burger and fries and a more nutritious but-mom-I-don't-want-that burger with apple slices. But it turns out most of you were choosing "poorly."

And so your choice had to be taken away. [HotAir, 7/26/11]

The Blaze: "Michelle Obama Might Have Taken The 'Happy' Out Of McDonald's Happy Meals." A July 26 post to Glenn Beck's website The Blaze said:

A child could once feel excitement over hearing a parent utter those beautiful words: "honey, we're going to McDonald's for a Happy Meal." But those carefree days are over and that sense of childhood wonderment and abandon is about to be seriously curbed by a new McDonald's policy that cuts an order of fries in half, throws apple slices, raisins and pineapple chunks around as if they were ketchup, and just generally makes Happy Meals "healthier," and, less happy. And even though the apples are reportedly not well-received by customers, guess what? McDonald's is forcing the fruit in its Happy Meals anyway. Whether you want it or not.

And what's more, politics, perhaps even the White House itself, could be to blame.

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So after all the years of satisfied customers "lovin' it," it is political pressure, including First Lady Michelle Obama's war on childhood obesity, that reportedly forced McDonald's hands.

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McDonald's: another casualty in the Nanny State's war on personal choice, or is the fast food giant bringing this on themselves? Will the new, and perhaps not improved, McDonald's menu affect your decision to patronize the long-time burger institution? [The Blaze, 7/26/11]

Weasel Zippers: "McDonald's Caves In To Michelle Obama," "Because Parents Are Too Stupid To Make Their Own Decisions." A July 26 Weasel Zippers post titled, "McDonald's Caves In To Michelle Obama's Food Police, French Fries In Happy Meals Take A Back Seat To Apple Slices" went on to add "because parents are too stupid to make their own decisions." [Weasel Zippers, 7/26/11]

Malkin Holds "Unhappy Meal" Photoshop Contest. In a July 26 post to her website, Michelle Malkin wrote:

With the approval of First Nutritionist Michelle Obama, McDonald's is getting rid of caramel apple dip, reducing the French fries portion, and adding more apples to its Happy Meals offerings.

Mrs. Obama expects more.

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They won't rest until the Happy Meal has undergone the total Berkeley makeover.

Next up: Goodbye, hamburgers. Hello, tofu burgers.

Goodbye, fruit juice boxes. Hello, kale/wheatgrass boxes.

I'm running out to Sonic before right now before they get their grubby Nanny State hands on my cheesy tots and cherry limeade.

Malkin's post went on to say: 

Okay, all my wonderful Photoshop friends and readers. ... Send me your best Unhappy Meal makeover images and I'll post the best! Winner of the contest gets a Sonic gift card.

The following images are responses from Malkin's readers displayed within her post:

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[MichelleMalkin.com, 7/26/11]

But Studies Show The Importance Of Healthy Eating Choices For Children

USDA: "More Than One-Third Of Children" Are Overweight Or Obese. A January 31 press release by the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) stated:

Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack and Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Kathleen Sebelius today announced the release of the 2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans, the federal government's evidence-based nutritional guidance to promote health, reduce the risk of chronic diseases, and reduce the prevalence of overweight and obesity through improved nutrition and physical activity.

Because more than one-third of children and more than two-thirds of adults in the United States are overweight or obese, the 7th edition of Dietary Guidelines for Americans places stronger emphasis on reducing calorie consumption and increasing physical activity. [USDA, 1/31/11, emphasis in original]

Health Risks For Overweight Or Obese Children Include Heart Disease, Type 2 Diabetes, High Blood Pressure. According to the Center for Disease Control (CDC), there are numerous health risks both during childhood and later in life stemming from childhood obesity. From the CDC:

What are the consequences of childhood obesity?

Health risks now

  • Childhood obesity can have a harmful effect on the body in a variety of ways. Obese children are more likely to have-
    • High blood pressure and high cholesterol, which are risk factors for cardiovascular disease (CVD). In one study, 70% of obese children had at least one CVD risk factor, and 39% had two or more.2
    • Increased risk of impaired glucose tolerance, insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes.3
    • Breathing problems, such as sleep apnea, and asthma.4,5
    • Joint problems and musculoskeletal discomfort.4,6
    • Fatty liver disease, gallstones, and gastro-esophageal reflux (i.e., heartburn).3,4
    • Obese children and adolescents have a greater risk of social and psychological problems, such as discrimination and poor self-esteem, which can continue into adulthood.3,7,8

Health risks later

  • Obese children are more likely to become obese adults.9, 10, 11   Adult obesity is associated with a number of serious health conditions including heart disease, diabetes, and some cancers.12
  • If children are overweight, obesity in adulthood is likely to be more severe.13

[CDC, accessed 7/27/11]

CDC: 17 Percent "Of Children And Adolescents Aged 2-19 Years Are Obese"; "1 of 7 Low Income" Children Aged 2-4 "Is Obese." According to the CDC, "Approximately 17% (or 12.5 million) of children and adolescents aged 2-19 years are obese." Additionally, "1 of 7 low-income, preschool-aged children is obese." From the CDC:

2009 State Prevalence Among
Low-Income Children Aged 2 to 4 Years

states

2007--2009 County Obesity Prevalence Among
Low-Income Children Aged 2 to 4 Years

counties 

[CDC, accessed 7/27/11]

Overweight And Obese Children Are More Likely To Become Obese Adults. From First Lady Michelle Obama's "Let's Move" campaign's website:

Obese children may experience immediate health consequences which can lead to weight-related health problems in adulthood. Obese children and teens have been found to have risk factors for cardiovascular disease (CVD), including high cholesterol levels, high blood pressure, and abnormal glucose tolerance. In a sample of 5-to 17-year-olds, almost 60% of overweight children had at least one CVD risk factor and 25% of overweight children had two or more CVD risk factors. In addition, studies have shown that obese children and teens are more likely to become obese as adults. [Let's Move, accessed 7/27/11]

And McDonald's Happy Meal Change Was The Result Of A Business Decision

LA Times: "Business Strategy For McDonald's Is To Make Parents Feel Less Guilty" About Buying Happy Meals. From a July 25 Los Angeles Times article:

The business strategy for McDonald's is to make parents feel less guilty about feeding fast food to their children, so they'll become more frequent customers.

"People tell us they want to feel good about visiting us regularly, about the food options that we serve, and want to visit us even more often," [President of McDonald's USA Jan] Fields said. [LA Times, 7/25/11]

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    • Author by m.welker (July 27, 2011 11:42 am ET)
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      Now this is truly stupid.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 27, 2011 11:45 am ET)
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        I keep saying: Obama, Reid and Pelosi should just pass a resolution about the benefits of BREATHING and 90% of our country's problems would be solved in about 3 minutes.

        These people will protest ANYTHING.

        They're unhinged. They're psychotic. I wish they'd all take up smoking in protest of the Tobacco Warning labels.

        ...Because Natural Selection doesn't work fast enough!

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        IMHO
        UTOPIA
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        • Author by m.welker (July 27, 2011 11:49 am ET)
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          They managed to denounce the killing of Osama bin Laden. That was the most stunning thing I have seen. They either denounced it or attributed it to Bush, much like they attribute things Bush did to Obama. This is most likely the closest to George Orwell's novel this country has ever come.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (July 27, 2011 4:16 pm ET)
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            A close 2nd was Ms. McCallum saying the other day that entitlements should be ended so we can have more capital to fight wars.
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        • Author by kfodom (July 27, 2011 12:20 pm ET)
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          Apparently, the righties must want every child to look like Rush Limbaugh. :-)
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          • Author by barbara960 (July 27, 2011 12:52 pm ET)
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            LOL. So true.
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          • Author by katanakumori (July 27, 2011 10:58 pm ET)
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            Or Ed Schultz & Michael Moore.

            The Federal Government telling private businesses what they have to sell or face the wrath of Big Brother is what concerns freedom loving people.

            Consumer Reports came out with a piece on the new regulated front loading washing machines. Guess what? They don't get your clothes clean. How about the regulated dishwasher soap? It doesn't clean your dishes. How about the low usage toilets? If you want to get your bum clean (like most civilized humans) You have to flush three or four times because more than two pieces of buttwipe will clog the toilet. How about the toxic mercury lightbulbs that don't illuminate rooms, catch fire & need an EPA cleanup crew if broken? Now the Fed wants to tell restaurants how much salt can be used in their food.

            There are always the know-it-alls who want to tell everyone what to do and there are always those scared little sheep who want to be told what to do.

            They are called liberal-socialists.
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            • Author by Johaely (July 28, 2011 1:02 am ET)
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              You are a dull and unoriginal bore.
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              • Author by katanakumori (July 28, 2011 6:25 am ET)
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                A sheep-like response. Go rest your pea brain as I am sure you are exhausted.
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                • Author by kabniel (July 28, 2011 8:46 am ET)
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                  katana

                  A better response than you deserve you pathetic, ignorant, brainwashed piece of garbage. Your litany of stupid isnt worth the waste of life it takes to read. Pavlovs dogs were iconoclasts compared to your programming. You disgust all decent human beings and you will never be one yourself. The human race is shamed by your very existance
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                  • Author by katanakumori (July 28, 2011 9:20 pm ET)
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                    Don't bother making an argument about the subject. Your shrieking and anger fueled insults reach the limits of your intellect.

                    "Your litany of stupid (you forgot a word or don't know how to compose a sentence) isnt worth the waste of life it takes to read"....

                    ....and yet you always read and respond to my posts with your anger & rage. Obviously you like wasting your life and are a hypocrite as well.

                    I'm sure there is a federal program where you can attend anger & rage management class.
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                    • Author by kabniel (July 29, 2011 2:27 am ET)
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                      katana

                      GOD but you are pathetic. Why dont you explain to me exactly WHAT the subject was of your post?

                      A sheep-like response. Go rest your pea brain as I am sure you are exhausted


                      I dont see a subject. See you are snivelling like the PUNK you are about me insulting YOU after your post which was NOTHING but an insult. GOD but you are pathetic

                      I told you this is how I amuse myself. I just LOVE to laugh at morons as stupid as you and I have no anger whatsoever. I understand that being as stupid, pathetic, and brainwashed as you are you cannot begin to undertand people amusing themselves by ridiculing your vast resevoir of ignorance.

                      I love the way you breeze in, spewing insults, heaping contempt, and fouling the site with your vitriol then snivel like the punk you are that we dont act like sheep and just TAKE your abuse. You really are very stupid but try to keep up just this once. I LIKE punking you. It is easy, it is fun and I am going to continue to do so.

                      You can keep repeating like the demented parrot you are that I am angry because I treat you the way you treat us. Far be it from me to stop you from humiliating yourself with your constant displays of stupidity and hypocrisy.

                      There MAY be an adult education course somewhere that you can TRY. However your problem isnt JUST ignorance. You are debilitatingly stupid and you always will be. Perhaps you should try anyway just so you arent settling for being the sad, twisted, brain damaged, inbred moron you are.
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                      • Author by katanakumori (July 29, 2011 11:29 pm ET)
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                        There you go again! Wasting your time and effort reading what you said was a waste of time and effort to read. It's what I expect from a hypocritical, rage filled, shrieking liberal socialist.

                        I'm guessing it's repressed humiliation at being suckered by that incompetent boob in the White House. His poll numbers are sinking as fast as your blood pressure is rising, his base is abandoning him and there is now talk that the Dems might push someone else to run against him. The latest polls are saying that a rusty bucket of oyster shells could beat him in the next election.

                        So keep punking away, it's what humiliated losers do.
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                • Author by Johaely (July 28, 2011 9:35 am ET)
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                  Says the person whose posts are pretty much factory made.
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            • Author by whatIthink (July 28, 2011 6:31 am ET)
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              "There are always the know-it-alls who want to tell everyone what to do and there are always those scared little sheep who want to be told what to do."

              I agree. Just like how the tea party tells the rest of the country how to live, what the TRUE meaning of the Constitution is (except for the parts they don't like...that's not the REAL Constitution), conservative lawmakers legislating what women can and cannot do with their uteruses (sp? uteri?), the religious right telling the rest of the country they HAVE to become Christians...but the RIGHT kind of Christian...

              And yet, a topic where almost every nutritionist, pediatrician, general practioner, child welfare expert, execercise expert, physiologist, health care professional all agree on is all of a sudden big brother.

              STFU.
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            • Author by raddave43 (July 28, 2011 1:52 pm ET)
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              I see what your problem is, you are flushing the toilet, hoping it cleans your bum. Gues what, front loading washing machines get clothes cleaner than the old top loading ones do. It's not the diswashing soap that cleans the dishes, it is the machine itself. It's a like that you need an EPA cleanup crew to clean up if a CFL light bult is broken, CFL technology is nothing new, as they have been used for YEARS now. It was not the FED that restricte the salt content, it was New York.

              You are called a wingnut-moran!
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          • Author by mari2jj (July 28, 2011 2:28 am ET)
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            Or. people are so ignorant that they could care less about what is happening to our youth. Besides, I plan to go to McDs and give then a letter that clearly states,"I am one Republican who is a nurse and who has seen first hand the evidence of obesity in many very young children and I shall let the company know that their cooperation is the very reason that I am shopping at their restaurants. Plus, I have organized my friends to compliment McDonald restaurants on their wonderful effort to save the health of their younger patrons.
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          • Author by mari2jj (July 28, 2011 7:41 pm ET)
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            Rush is in no way qualified as an arbiter of weight norms! Actually I think his stand is truly ignorant. But please remember, those are the flame throwers in our party. Most of us are just plain old good Americans who appreciate the help given about the invite to be overweight to kids that often ordered Happy Meals that are now revised. Good for you, Mrs. Obama and this is from a life long Republican. As a nurse, that worked in a pediatrics clinic, I can tell you that children's health is greatly affected by overweight consequences from so many calorie meals from places like McDonalds. I have stopped by my local McD outlets to commended them and also I have written to the Corporation headquarters. I even chose some healthy stuff from their menu now and remind them why. All these many stupid nay-sayers are simply ignorant and appear to be very irredeemable! So good for you, Mrs. Obama!
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        • Author by Invent a Scandal (July 27, 2011 1:14 pm ET)
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          Why don't we just let these conservative blockheads pay the increased taxes to cover the health care costs of McDonald's food.
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          • Author by JP (July 27, 2011 2:35 pm ET)
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            That would be good but they can't afford health care. What does a doctor know anyway?
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        • Author by silvrspur (July 28, 2011 2:22 pm ET)
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          Why don't we just have the government create food lines all over the country; that way we don't have to worry about buying food, cooking it at home and figuring out if we are eating "healty" according to Michelle's and the government's ideals. For every meal, we can just step up to the food line window and have them hand over the meal for whatever time it is. That way we don't have to make a choice it's done for us. Matter of fact, why don't we let the government make all our decisions for us--that way we can eliminate the words "choice" and "decision making" from the dictionary and our lives. Gosh, where will I go on my vacation--the government will decide; where will I live; the government will decide, etc., etc., etc.
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          • Author by kabniel (July 29, 2011 2:30 am ET)
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            silvr

            GOD but you are stupid. Do you know what the word choice MEANS? Did the government force McDonalds to do this or did they do it as their CHOICE? Did they do it to satisfy the demands of their customers also known as their CHOICE.

            It is sad to see people as stupid and brainwashed as you thinking you are clever coming up with these weak strawman arguments and ignorant hypotheticals.

            Why dont you decide for once in your pathetic life to think for yourself instead of having Rush et all do your thinking FOR you?
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      • Author by jamesB (July 27, 2011 11:56 am ET)
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        this is stupid. mcdonalds made a marketing business decision to revamp their happy meals, that's it. i don't see anywhere where they were mandated or even pressured by the government to do so. it was their choice. and more proof that the free market takes care of these things without government interference, if the public wants it and people will buy it, smart companies will adapt and change to meet that need. more empty nonsense from these same right wing morons.
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        • Author by BDA (July 27, 2011 12:27 pm ET)
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          Its what you dont see that is the reality.... dontcha see??? Michelle Obama is threatening Mcdonalds with a government takeover unless they stop selling tasty food. Its all about her plan to end restaurants in America. She has invested heavily in kitchen stoves and refridgerators and wants to close all the restaurants so people will be forced into cooking at home which will make her the richest black woman in the world.

          I saw this on Glenn Becks chalkboard once.... or was it on 24?
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        • Author by JoeSixpack (July 27, 2011 1:28 pm ET)
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          In most places, fast food restaurants are now required by law to display nutritional information including ingredients, calorie counts, fat quantities and sodium quantities. Because of this, the "market" (i.e. consumers) has become more and more aware of the crap they've been eating. People have begun asking for healthier alternatives. Personally, I think it's a good thing that businesses are required by law to tell you what they're selling you, but I'm sure in your mind, we don't deserve that right because it interferes with the almighty free market.

          This "marketing business decision" is a direct result of the greater awareness brought about by... wait for it... "government interference."
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          • Author by jamesB (July 27, 2011 2:00 pm ET)
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            i have no problem with food labeling if that is what your point was.
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            • Author by JoeSixpack (July 27, 2011 2:18 pm ET)
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              You have no problem with food labelling, yet you believe that "the free market takes care of these things without government interference." Well, my friend, the free market didn't take care of it. Fast food fought tooth and nail against providing nutritional info, claiming it was unnecessary and too expensive. They had to be forced into providing the information, and lo and behold, their objections were shown to be a load of b.s. My point is that the whole "the market knows best" mentality is crap. You can't logically argue against government interference while claiming to have no problem with the results of it.
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              • Author by jamesB (July 27, 2011 2:23 pm ET)
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                if you want to incite an argument on food labeling then find a thread where that is the topic. i said "these things" for a specific reason, because in this context it went to telling companies what to sell or what not to sell. this has nothing to do with food safety or food labeling.
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                • Author by JoeSixpack (July 27, 2011 3:05 pm ET)
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                  I just want you to acknowledge your own internal inconsistency, and hopefully learn something from it. McDonald's is doing this because it's what their customers want. That's fine, and true enough in itself, but that's where you chose to stop thinking. There's quite a bit more to it than that. Their customers want healthier options because they are better educated. This is a direct result of government-mandated labelling, i.e. government intervention in the so-called free market. The free market didn't "take care" of food labelling, the government did. McDonald's (and most food makers) would have preferred to keep everyone in the dark. If free market principles were the law of the land, they would have been able to do so. It's a very simple chain of logic, and wholely relevant to the topic at hand. Goverment intervention led to better education, which led consumers to demand healthier options. If the free market had it's way, McDonald's wouldn't be feeling any pressure to do this because they would not have had to educate their consumers in the first place.

                  You can't claim to be against government interference while simultaneously claiming that you like the info you can get as a result of it.
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                  • Author by jamesB (July 27, 2011 5:36 pm ET)
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                    are you a moron? you tried to incite an argument over something i never said and you won't admit it. i have already given you the clear distinction between your off topic leap vs. what i said. don't accept it, i don't care.
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                    • Author by spiritcaller4585 (July 27, 2011 9:46 pm ET)
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                      Yes, based on previous comments and this little trolling attempt, I would have to say that JoeSixpack is indeed a moron.

                      Only a moron would consider nutritional labeling to be "government interference" in the marketplace. It would be more correctly termed "market enhancement" as providing this information allows consumers to make more informed choices. The open display of nutritional information does not prevent companies from offering unhealthy foods, nor does it stop the average consumer from purchasing those products if that is what they want. The same goes for warning labels on cigarettes, alcohol and over-the-counter cold medications. The information is simply provided to inform the consumer who wishes to know more about the products they are purchasing, and in no way interferes with their right to purchase products which may be dangerous to their health. In fact, providing this information protects the companies against future lawsuits, because the consumer can't say that they didn't know or were never informed of the dangers when the information is freely available right there on the packaging or the menu or posted on the wall.

                      JoeSixpack somehow thinks that he has tricked the silly libruls into seeing the error of their ways with his conservative logic about free markets and the "government interference" he imagines all libruls love so much, proving conclusively that he is indeed a moron.
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                      • Author by JoeSixpack (July 28, 2011 9:50 am ET)
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                        Ha hah hah! "Market enhancement." That's hilarious! Tell ya what, sparky - that's not what the restaurants in the market were saying about mandated fast food nutritional labelling when it was proposed. They were saying exactly what I'm saying now - that it was unnecessary government interference that was only going to cost them money.

                        You don't even have the slightest understanding of what I was saying. In fact, you got it exactly backwards, which was quite a trick. Why would I want to "trick the silly libruls" when, for the most part, I'm one of them? I'm speaking out against the myth of the magical free market, which jamesB cited at the beginning of this exchange. This is a liberal position, moron. It's the exact opposite of the "conservative logic" on the issue. JamesB is the one who brought the conservative logic, without even the slightest understanding of its implications. He said specifically that this was "proof that the free market takes care of these things without government interference." To look at this McDonald's thing as an example of the free market at work is naive at best. Can you really not see how government mandated labelling has lead to restaurants offering healthier options? That was the whole point of requiring the labelling in the first place - to promote healthier eating habits through education.

                        Companies would not need to "protect against lawsuits" if there weren't laws regarding product safety, liability, etc. Those laws are themselves examples of government intereference in the market - they restrict what the market can and cannot do.
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                      • Author by JoeSixpack (July 28, 2011 9:57 am ET)
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                        Just to clarify, I'm not saying that the labelling was actually unnecessary government interference. I'm merely citing that as the stance of the fast food industry on the issue. I'm not endorsing that stance. This should already be clear, but some people don't seem to be getting it. Personally, I think it was a 100% reasonable and justified case of government intervention.
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                        • Author by jamesB (July 28, 2011 10:26 am ET)
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                          no, what you did was take my comment about the government having no business interfering in telling private companies what they should or shouldn't sell, as in a mcdonalds happy meal - and then proceeded to leap to make it seem like i was against food labeling or food safety. it was a dishonest ploy and it fell flat. sorry.
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                          • Author by JoeSixpack (July 28, 2011 10:57 am ET)
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                            the government having no business interfering in telling private companies what they should or shouldn't sell,

                            It's exactly that naive, simplistic nonsense that I have a problem with. I'm right on topic, you just choose not to see it because you can't admit you're wrong. Businesses should be able to sell whatever they want? Great idea. I can see that you've really though this through. I mean, who doesn't love asbestos, rat feces and cockroaches in their food?

                            If you are against government telling companies what they should or shouldn't sell, you're against food safety. That's what food safety is - legal (i.e. government) restricitons on what businesses can or cannot sell. It intereferes with their ability to sell whatever they want. Without the force of law that it carries, businesses could and would sell anything at all if they thought it would yield a profit. Your initial point was, and still is, devoid of logic and just plain wrong.
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                            • Author by jamesB (July 28, 2011 11:10 am ET)
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                              no, you are a moron. this is about mcdonalds happy meals, not asbestos rat feces and cockroaches. but you keep expanding the discussion to make it seem like because i don't believe government has any necessity in telling mcdonalds to put either apples or fries in their happy meals, that means i must want all food safety regulations abandoned. so if you can show me where i said that, fine. but you can't, so you look like a complete fool.
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                              • Author by JoeSixpack (July 28, 2011 11:19 am ET)
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                                If you don't see that the things that go into a happy mean are already rightly and justly restricted by government, there's no hope for you. If you want to hold wildly inconsistent beliefs simultaneously, such as "goverment interference bad, food regulations good," knock yourself out.
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                                • Author by jamesB (July 28, 2011 11:23 am ET)
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                                  so which one is restricted, fries or apples?
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                                  • Author by JoeSixpack (July 28, 2011 11:36 am ET)
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                                    Both. What goes into the fries and apples is restricted. Remember when various local governments started banning trans fats? McD's had to switch to a different cooking oil, which they eventually introduced at all their locations. Those governments have effectively restricted your french fries. You can't sell apples that are tainted with certain pesticides or things like E. Coli. Same with the meat, bread, condiments, etc. Same with the toys that go into those happy meals. Goverment restrictions affect every single component of your happy meal. McD's would put ground up newspapers into their burgers if they thought it'd boost the bottom line and they could get away with it.
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                                    • Author by jamesB (July 28, 2011 11:52 am ET)
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                                      oh for gods sake, so now you are expanding to what the ingredients are in apples and fries, as if that was anywhere near what my original posting was about. you are flailing now, it's actually pathetic to watch. think whatever you want.
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                                      • Author by JoeSixpack (July 28, 2011 1:03 pm ET)
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                                        You do know that food is made up of ingredients, right? If the ingredients don't matter, why did McD's switch to cooking oil with no trans fats? Are you seriously arguing that there's no difference between fries cooked in canola vs. fries cooked in beef tallow, 'cuz, duhrr, the ingredients don't matter?

                                        I realize that you're desperate to view this with blinders on. It's the only way that the idiotic statement that "it was their choice. and more proof that the free market takes care of these things without government interference" could possibly make any sense.

                                        Before even a single component of that happy meal hits the box, it has been subject to numerous regulations and restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge this undeniable fact, instead "flailing" to deny its obvious relevance because you know that it exposes the vapid shallowness of your original statement. You even went on to lambast the "empty nonsense from these same right wing morons," while echoing the right-wing's nonsensical beliefs about the almighty free market. You are one confused little dude.
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    • Author by CrashGordon (July 27, 2011 11:51 am ET)
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      The last time I checked, McDonald's was an American company that's free to do as it chooses in regards to its menu. They are responding not to the government, but to the wishes and concerns of their customers. In other words, they are making a decision that they feel will earn them more money from their customers. This is capitalism at its most basic.

      Why does the right-wing media hate capitalism?
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      • Author by firstman (July 27, 2011 11:55 am ET)
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        Because it agrees with Michelle Obama in this circumstance.
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      • Author by JP (July 27, 2011 2:45 pm ET)
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        What does McDonalds know about how to make money or run their failing business? The right wing knows how every business should run, just look at what a great job their doing with the country. Everything is just fine when you know everything about everything just ask a bagger.
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    • Author by firstman (July 27, 2011 11:54 am ET)
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      If you want your fat little kid to eat more french fries, order some more off the dollar menu. It's not that hard of a concept.
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      • Author by barbara960 (July 27, 2011 12:50 pm ET)
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        Exactly my thought- Ms. Malkin, if your happy meal isn't greasy enough, just buy another bag of fries.
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    • Author by pete592 (July 27, 2011 12:03 pm ET)
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      If you feel McDonald's is not doing a good enough job of providing your kids with meals devoid of nutrition, go somewhere else. There is no shortage of fatty, salty, chemical-laden food to choose from in America. There are plenty of other restaurants ready and willing to step up and help you in your quest to turn your kids into obese diabetics. Problem solved. Let freedom ring.
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      • Author by nerzog (July 27, 2011 12:11 pm ET)
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        They can always stop by MAPCO and load up on Twinkies and Banana Flips.
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    • Author by gayinmt (July 27, 2011 12:10 pm ET)
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      I bet if you tried really hard, you can still get your kids a burger, fries and a shake at any McDonald's you go to.
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      • Author by Invent a Scandal (July 27, 2011 1:18 pm ET)
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        Yeah, but it's not part of the happy meal package and you don't get a toy. That's what really burns me up.
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    • Author by Liberal in the South (July 27, 2011 12:29 pm ET)
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      The reason why people think the Happy Meal is becoming unhappy is because we have been conditioned to think that mcdonalds fries are better tasting than apples, but if we can properly teach our kids from an early age that apples are good tasting and good for you, it will be a non-issue.
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      • Author by nerzog (July 27, 2011 12:50 pm ET)
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        Teaching our kids to like fruits and vegetables? Sounds like Socialist indoctrination...
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      • Author by JoeSixpack (July 27, 2011 2:25 pm ET)
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        I have a better solution - just slather your fries in ketchup. Ketchup is good for you! It's a vegetable, you know.
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    • Author by bintx (July 27, 2011 12:46 pm ET)
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      Sonic has been offering this option for a couple of years. They have better junk food that McDonald's, in my opinion! LOL!
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    • Author by firstman (July 27, 2011 12:51 pm ET)
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      I want an Eric Boehlert toy.
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      • Author by rtwmd1230 (July 27, 2011 2:07 pm ET)
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        I want a Michelle Malkin toy, but I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do with it.
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        • Author by Ribelin2000 (July 28, 2011 5:02 pm ET)
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          I would imagine the Michelle Malkin toy to be a mashed-up bag of meat with lipstick.
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    • Author by shaggles (July 27, 2011 1:03 pm ET)
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      Why does the right hate the free market?
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      • Author by Invent a Scandal (July 27, 2011 1:21 pm ET)
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        They're terrified of the free market because they're concerned the corporations might accidentally start doing the right thing.
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        • Author by shaggles (July 27, 2011 1:52 pm ET)
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          No fear there. Corporations only do the right thing for their bottom line. This change is a result of consumer demand. If consumers demanded that fries be cooked in lard rendered from aborted fetuses McDonalds would do it.
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      • Author by JP (July 27, 2011 2:57 pm ET)
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        They don't really hate the free market, they just hate healthy people that may grow old. If they grow old it means ss and health care costs. Corporate owned america won't have enough money for their wars if america has these handouts that people have paid into all their lives! As we were told on fox the other day.
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    • Author by Bob Stanley (July 27, 2011 1:14 pm ET)
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      Wingnuts don't seem to understand the role of "choice" in marketing. No wonder they routinely destroy businesses and whole economies.
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    • Author by overmars jr. (July 27, 2011 3:25 pm ET)
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      "there's about to be no more happy in your Happy Meals" because "they're being replaced with the healthy meal."


      O_o

      I'm sorry, did Steve "YAY for war, close the closet door" Douchy just make out like healthy is the warring polar opposite of happy?

      Good grief. Who buys this sh**?

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    • Author by truth4me (July 27, 2011 6:58 pm ET)
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      Yes, please, let's not make improvements to anything. Long live old and same!!!!! ;-D
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      • Author by grmce (July 29, 2011 9:17 am ET)
           
        That reminds of the old line about the conservatives that object to the new moon out of deference to the old one.
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    • Author by OHerro (July 27, 2011 7:10 pm ET)
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      Obviously it's easier than admitting that their party is actively trying to collapse our country just to get back at someone they rightfully lost to.

      I'm just a little worried about making things like McDonalds out to be healthy. Kind of the whole diet-coke mentality, it just makes people feel better about pigging out.

      When I think about McDonalds I can feel my body getting ready to vomit, and that's how it should be.
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    • Author by Area Man (July 27, 2011 7:45 pm ET)
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      I'm pretty sure right wingers, or anyone really, can still fatten up their kids at McDonalds if they so choose. They offer a giant angus burger, large fries, and the giant Coke (only $1). You can buy the toy for and extra buck to make it a 'fatty meal' or happy meal if that makes one feel happier.
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    • Author by politeradical (July 27, 2011 9:55 pm ET)
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      So now the right has degraded freedom to the point where it means being able to allow your child to become a diabetic, hypertensive fat a$$?
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    • Author by grmce (July 29, 2011 8:33 am ET)
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      Let them eat arsenic.
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