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Fox Hypocrisy: Calling Opponents Terrorists Edition

August 03, 2011 2:13 am ET — 137 Comments

Bill O'Reilly lashed out at those in the media and on the "radical left" who are supposedly "coordinat[ing]" to brand Tea Party members as "terrorists." But Fox itself has a history of linking progressives and progressive policies to terrorism, with Glenn Beck going so far as to claim on Fox that health care reform was like "September 11th all over again except we didn't have the collapsing buildings."

O'Reilly Lashes Out At The Media And The "Radical Left" For Calling Tea Partiers "Terrorists"

O'Reilly: The Media And The "Radical Left" Are "Coordinat[ing]" To Brand Tea Party Members "Terrorists."  From the August 2 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

O'REILLY: Hey, far-left fanatics: is there a difference when your side refuses to compromise? Apparently there is. The bitter political divide in the USA is disturbing. Using words like "terrorist" and "racist" to brand opponents is simply unacceptable. I think maybe President Obama needs to give another speech like his Arizona appeal. Some of his most ardent supporters obviously did not get the message.

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O'REILLY: Here's what we're hearing, and it happens on the Republican side too by the way. But here is what we are hearing. There are a list of media people, pundits primarily but some straight people as well, some so called reporters, who are on mailing lists of radical left websites. So they get blasts. They get talking points and it happens on the right too. OK, so every morning they get a little ding on their BlackBerry, "ding-ding", and here's the phraseology that is being used. They read it and they spit it back. That's happening, Charles. That's coordination.

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER (Fox News contributor): Look, what it means to me is you got people with no intelligence, no originality, no imagination. They are sputtering. They've lost. They have no arguments. So what do they do? They want ad hominems. They want epithets. So somebody uses it on the air, "Ah-ha, well that's a good one. I'll use it." I don't credit them with the intelligence or the sort of what it takes to put together a conspiracy. I'm not sure that is an important point here. The effect is they all end up saying the same thing. It's birds on a wire.

O'REILLY: OK, but here is why I think it is important. When you repeat a lie often enough, in some people's minds it becomes the truth. That's the rule number one of every propagandist who's ever operated. Repeat the lie. Mantra, mantra, mantra. Now, they tried it with the racist deal. You know they did. They tried to brand the Tea Party people racists, didn't work. Now, they're saying they're economic terrorists. They want to blow the whole country up.

KRAUTHAMMER: But as you just said, Bill. You just said earlier if you repeat the lie often enough it will work. Well, you just said with racism it didn't work -

O'REILLY: Because there was enough counter to that. There was enough counter --

KRAUTHAMMER: This is so transparently silly. You actually had one congressman -- I wrote it down -- Mike Doyle in the meeting with the vice president yesterday actually said, "We've negotiated with terrorists. This small group of terrorists has made it impossible for us to spend any money." Well that's a hell of a definition of terrorism.

O'REILLY: This is so ridiculous.

KRAUTHAMMER: Normally a terrorist says, "I want you to convert. I want your daughter. I want your money. I want your submission."

O'REILLY: Alright.

KRAUTHAMMER: This guy says that a bunch of terrorists in Congress have stopped us from spending money we don't have. You think that's an argument that will carry with the American people? I think not.

O'REILLY: No. I don't think it was the Tea Party who got this done. I think it was the American people. [Fox News, The O'Reilly Factor, 8/2/11]

Fox Has A History Of Linking Progressives And Progressive Policies To Terrorism

Fox's Bolling Called Obama Commerce Secretary Nominee An "Eco-Terrorist." During the June 3 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor (while O'Reilly was on vacation), Eric Bolling called then Department of Commerce Secretary nominee John Bryston "an eco-terrorist." [Fox News, The O'Reilly Factor, 6/3/11]

Bolling: Bryson "Is So Pro-Green" That "You Could Almost Call Him An Eco-Terrorist." From the June 2 edition of Fox & Friends:

BOLLING: Mr. Obama has a green agenda. No question about it. Steven Chu is green. He's the energy secretary. Ken Salazar, the interior secretary, also very green, permatoriums and whatnot. The new guy -- this is very important -- the guy that he -- Obama nominated on Tuesday for the commerce secretary job, his name is John Bryson. There are those of us who watch this stuff carefully, you can almost call him an eco-terrorist. He is --

BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): What?

BOLLING: He is so pro-green. This -- the point is, all these secretary -- these cabinet positions are held by very, very green agenda environmentalists. It's scary. And by the way, our gas prices go up. [Fox News, Fox & Friends6/2/11, via Media Matters]

Beck Compared Health Care Reform To 9-11. From the November 2, 2009, edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

BECK: Conservatives are awake -- 9-12ers are willing to do the hard things. We know what this means. We're taking time out of our busy lives, taking time away from their families. They're attending town hall meetings. Do you think they want to do that?

They are calling their representatives. How many times do we have to be yelled at by your people in Washington? They are reading 2,000-page health care bills on the weekend. The 9-12ers are willing to stand in line and take our shoes off before the plane actually hits the tower. [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 11/2/09, via Media Matters]

Fox Nation Promoted Rep. Foxx's Comments That Health Care Bill Was More Dangerous "Than Any Terrorist Right Now." On November 3, 2009, Fox Nation linked to a video of Rep. Virginia Foxx's statement that the health care bill was more dangerous "than any terrorist right now" under the headline: "Rep. Foxx Fears 'Obamacare' More Than Terrorist Attack." [Fox Nation, 11/3/09, via Media Matters

Beck On Obama's Policies: "It's September 11th All Over Again Except We Didn't Have The Collapsing Buildings." From the March 25, 2010, edition of Glenn Beck:

BECK: Our leadership now is continuing to push for a cap-and-trade bill, which will raise our energy prices and, of course, limit our own oil production. So let me see if I have this right. If the Saudi oilfields don't burn down to the ground, if they catch all the terrorists and nothing ever happens there, we can be dependent on them.

But we are going to dry up all of our oil anyway because we're going to have a big cap and trade. We're not going to be able to go for that. What are they doing to us? What are they doing?

We must be independent. These pressures keep building and the vise gets tighter and tighter and tighter. There are -- I was going to say easy. They are not easy long term principles.

But there are long term principles that will solve these issues. We have talked about them at length many times. We're going to talk about them in the next few weeks. I'm going to solve some of these things.

And you've got -- I'm telling you, you don't have to agree with my answer. But you've got to be behind something that makes sense. In the shorter term, we just need to keep our heads.

We need to fight hard within the rules and pray, get down on your knees and pray, pray. It is September 11th all over again except we didn't have the collapsing buildings, but we need God more than ever.

Gandhi said use truth as enamel -- an anvil, and a hammer, non-violence. And you just keep pounding on that with non-violence and you reject anything that doesn't make sense.

We can beat the issues that lie ahead of us. We can do it. But the situation is only made more difficult when our own leadership, our own Congress, our own president, is not telling us the truth and for political reasons, tightening that vise. [Fox News, Glenn Beck3/25/10, via Media Matters]

Beck Likens Congress, Maxine Waters, To "Economic Terrorist[s]." From the August 10, 2010, edition of Glenn Beck:

BECK: There are economic terrorists. Yeah. Somebody that would force you to do something you didn't want to do by scaring you. Like Congress. Like Congress, when they pull people -- you remember Maxine Waters when she said, "I'll tell you what this liberal's gonna do. This liberal's gonna take your country. " Remember that? That's kind of an economic terrorist right there.

You see, terrorism in its broadest form is just designed to scare you into changing your way of life. Because they know -- well, for instance, Maxine Waters knows you can't defeat the free market system. So you have to scare it. Control it. [Fox News, Glenn Beck8/10/10, via Media Matters

Bush Treasury Secretary Called Those Threatening Not To Raise Debt Ceiling "Our Version Of Al Qaeda Terrorists"

Bush Treasury Secretary O'Neill: "The People Who Are Threatening Not To Pass The Debt Ceiling Are Our Version Of Al Qaeda Terrorists." From The Hill:

Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill compared lawmakers trying to block raising the debt ceiling to "al Qaeda terrorists."

"The people who are threatening not to pass the debt ceiling are our version of al Qaeda terrorists. Really," O'Neill, Treasury secretary in the Republican administration of George W. Bush, said Wednesday in an interview with Bloomberg Television's InBusiness with Margaret Brennan.

"They're really putting our whole society at risk by threatening to round up 50 percent of the members of the Congress, who are loony, who would put our credit at risk," O'Neill said.

His remarks come just a day after Obama administration Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner slammed recent discussions over whether or not to raise the debt ceiling as "ridiculous" and "irresponsible."

Both O'Neill's and Geithner's comments are in response to House Republicans who have recently threatened to vote to raise the debt ceiling only if that also means passing certain other deficit-reduction proposals.

In the same interview, O'Neill said the debt-ceiling debate is a symptom of a broken political system.

"I do believe we have a broken political system that is capable of doing irresponsible things," O'Neill said. "This whole conversation is irresponsible." [The Hill, 4/27/11]

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    • Author by erieavenue215 (August 03, 2011 3:35 am ET)
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      Unfreakinbelievable, there isn't enough blank video in the world to show all of the hypocrisy that has taken place on Fox since Obama was elected, they have made complete 180 degeree flips, and NO ONE has been more guilty of this than Mr Billo himself. He was the Bush administrations LEGAL COUNSEL in the media, and now he has no problem with all of the OUTRAGEOUS, VILE, LIES that come from the right towards this President. He would be up in arms and red in the face if Bush was OBSTRUCTED and ATTACKED the way Obama has been.
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (August 03, 2011 12:03 pm ET)
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        Well, Obama just happens to be the same color of the guy who brings Billo his f'in iced tea.
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      • Author by Jasminenesta (August 03, 2011 10:17 pm ET)
           
        "But here is why I think it is important. When you repeat a lie often enough, in some people's minds it becomes the truth. That's the rule number one of every propagandist who's ever operated. Repeat the lie. Mantra, mantra, mantra." - O'reilly

        He has perfected the art of lying
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    • Author by Ema_Nymton (August 03, 2011 5:16 am ET)
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      .

      It's Fox. Lie, cheat, and steal: nothing else matters.

      No accountability, no responsibility.

      It's Fox.

      ___________________

      Tax the rich/wealthy, end government corporate welfare, end the wars in Iraq/Afghanistan, bring the troops home, increase spending on Medicare and Social Security.

      Ema Nymton
      ~@:o?
      .
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      • Author by kamrom (August 03, 2011 11:07 pm ET)
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        I wish it was JUST fox. But the conservatives have this habit of being insane and also somehow dictating policy even though they're utterly unqualified to do so, and even though the only reason they challenge things is insane.

        What do I mean?

        How many kilometers is it to your house? Most people on the planet would have little trouble answering that. Not us though.
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    • Author by HuffPo_Refugee (August 03, 2011 7:29 am ET)
         
      And another reference that was not mentioned here is Palin's favorite meme during the 2008 election that Obama liked to pal around with terrorists.
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    • Author by ONOMATOPOEIA (August 03, 2011 8:44 am ET)
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      IOKIYAR
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    • Author by GreenLantern (August 03, 2011 9:21 am ET)
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      O'REILLY: OK, but here is why I think it is important. When you repeat a lie often enough, in some people's minds it becomes the truth. That's the rule number one of every propagandist who's ever operated. Repeat the lie. Mantra, mantra, mantra.

      They should know! Where did "Death Panels" come from? How come I still get into arguments with a hate-winger at work that "Obamacare" is communist socialism?
      "Job creators"? Billionaires have not created jobs with tax cuts since before St. Reagan! That is a statistically easily provable fact!
      They are the gold standard for propaganda, their audience still thinks our President is not a legal citizen and a "closet Muslim"!
      billo and his ilk is the reason we have had 4 "crisis" in the last 10 years, all because of repuglicans!
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      • Author by Pilot1 (August 03, 2011 11:34 pm ET)
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        What a laugh, it't the poor people who provide the jobs right. Funny I have never designed a building for poor people, only wealthy people who employ me, construction workers, lumber yards, material suppliers, furniture stores, and then they pay more tax.
        Your liberal dogma has you blinded.
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        • Author by kabniel (August 03, 2011 11:48 pm ET)
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          Pilot

          Your STUPIDITY makes it impossible for you to do anything but spew ignorant talking points. How in the world did you become such a braiwnashed pathetic moron?

          No rational human can dispute that Bush said his tax cuts for the rich would cause unprecedented job creation. He used the same talking point all of you rightwing morons use. The one you just recycled AGAIN. Where were the jobs? Bush had the worst job creation record since the Great Depression. Clinton on the other hand raised taxes on the rich and his job creation record was more than twenty million in 8 years

          Is it physically painful to be as stupid as you are?
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          • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 12:29 am ET)
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            Reagan cut taxes and had the highest job growth and he was coming out of a recession. Clinton has a good economy so his was quote predictable. Maybe you will recall when the gov. Decided to drastically increase tax luxury cars and yachts. It was a disaster, revenue plummeted and they quickly reversed course. The myth is that if you increase taxes on the rich there is just more revenue. Wrong, the rich do something else with there money, it does not increase revenue.This is a fact proved over and over again by history.
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            • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 12:34 am ET)
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              Wow, do you do anything aside from kissing entitled ass?
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              • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 12:38 am ET)
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                Yes, I am a successful capitalist. I don't kiss anyone's arcs, especially communists trying to destroy what made this country great.
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                • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 12:48 am ET)
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                  Yes, I am a successful capitalist.


                  A successful capitalist is capable of living life without having to kiss a golden ring. There is a difference between being a capitalist and an authoritarian.

                  I don't kiss anyone's arcs, especially communists


                  You say you don't, yet everything you say is pretty much trashing poor people or defending entitled people at the expense of reality. You are more about comforting the rich and hope the trickle it all down instead of actual pragmatism and solutions.

                  trying to destroy what made this country great.


                  Which is what? Last i checked the people who have been ignoring/going against the constitution has been the right.
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                  • Author by erock33 (August 04, 2011 1:13 am ET)
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                    Pilot -

                    You realize your conversing with a gaggle of brainwashed robots who get all there info from MMFA and nowhere else. Those who believe that paying people to remain unemployed for nearly two years is beneficial to the economy.

                    If you just post on here to get under there parasitic skin like I do, then more power to you, but don't ever think you will change their MMFA programmed brains. They are way to stupid to realize how the real world works. They think government is the answer to everything. The great equalizer for their pitiful intellect.
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                    • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 1:17 am ET)
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                      If you just post on here to get under there parasitic skin like I do, then more power to you


                      So not only do you encourage trolling you admit you really don't have a purpose yourself for posting. What an empty and sad existence you must live if you consider denigrating others for not being like you wish they were (doesn't that mean you hate free thought?) some kind of pass time. And for somebody who calls other people brainwashed, you really don't have any kind of realistic or original opinion.
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                    • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 1:57 am ET)
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                      Erock33,
                      So many misinformed liberals, so little time.
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                      • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 2:09 am ET)
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                        I doubt you would convert any one to the "TRUE AND ONLY POLITICAL BELIEF" by acting like a megalomaniac ass.
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                      • Author by rusty hinges (August 04, 2011 12:50 pm ET)
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                        Pilot1,
                        So many lying conservatives, so little time for the truth.
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                    • Author by rusty hinges (August 04, 2011 12:48 pm ET)
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                      "You realize your conversing with a gaggle of brainwashed robots"-must be why you two are "conversing". Foxbots tend to talk (shout) to each other because no one with a brain will listen to their lies anymore. Looks like a match made in hell.
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                    • Author by GreenLantern (August 04, 2011 8:05 pm ET)
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                      Ha ha! you must be a fake troll! :)
                      "your conversing" ha ha, really bad grammar!
                      "Who get all there info" ha ha, nobody is that bad, really? Wow, that makes me respect your talking points so much..... hahahahaha!
                      You kill me!
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                  • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 1:53 am ET)
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                    I Will bet that give more to the poor in a year than most people make in a year. I support orphans in Africa and in Mexico and capitalism allows me to do that.
                    This great country created the best standard of living on earth, invented the cure for polio, put a man on the moon, stopped Hitler and Japan and I could go on and on.
                    If anyone is trashing the constitution it's the corrupt Obama.
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                    • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 2:07 am ET)
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                      I Will bet that give more to the poor in a year than most people make in a year.


                      I really don't care how much you donate to charity or how much money you earn. Aloe may be a good remedy, but in the end it is still a prickly and foul plant.

                      I support orphans in Africa and in Mexico and capitalism allows me to do that.


                      I have done so too. You can do all that even without capitalism. You don't need capitalism to build schools, send supplies, donate time or man power, etc. Socialist and Communist countries like Venezuela, the Scandinavian countries and Cuba have also donated power and support to other countries.

                      This great country created the best standard of living on earth, invented the cure for polio, put a man on the moon, stopped Hitler and Japan and I could go on and on.


                      You could go on, the same as i could in finding the attributes in another country or the flaws in the U.S. Your feats mean nothing if you have a horrible personality or if you can't be graceful about them.

                      If anyone is trashing the constitution it's the corrupt Obama.


                      You keep repeating this, yet the only thing you have to show are hearsay, lies and inaccurate statements.
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                      • Author by mjlilgui (August 04, 2011 4:41 pm ET)
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                        I'd wager the standard of living in Sweden is higher than it is in the US. Of course, they don't mind paying the taxes to keep their country great.
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                        • Author by erock33 (August 04, 2011 5:42 pm ET)
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                          Ah yes, Sweden, the great world power, where innovation and leadership abound. Doesn't everyone go there for medical care as well?

                          I told you it was fun, Pilot. You can take the collective intellect of all these liberal posters and almost equal that of a wilted house plant.
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                          • Author by mjlilgui (August 04, 2011 7:40 pm ET)
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                            Any quantifiable studies done on the difference between leadership and innovation in Sweden and the US, or are you just bloviating as usual?

                            Hint, pumping your fist in your air and chanting "USA! USA! USA!" has no actual bearing on your country's performance in the world.
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                          • Author by cripto9t709 (August 05, 2011 9:25 am ET)
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                            What does "world power" have to do with the standard of living? China's a world power.

                            Most of the paper mills in the US use Swedish technology and parts to roll out the paper.

                            I'm glad you and pilot hooked up You two are a tag-team that will strike fear in all "liberals".
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            • Author by cripto9t709 (August 04, 2011 8:39 am ET)
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              Clinton had the highest job growth, not Reagan.

              Clinton raised taxes on the rich and he still had "predictable" job growth, something successful capitalists always seem to leave out.

              The Bush tax cuts have been in place for 10 years now and net job growth is 0 with nine trillion debt. Reality doesn't back up your "provable facts" Mr. Successful Capitalist.
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        • Author by Johaely (August 03, 2011 11:59 pm ET)
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          I really love how in your world its either poor people or rich people. Last i checked we did not live in some feudalistic society. And of course they pay more tax. They have more money.
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          • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 12:35 am ET)
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            Obama is the biggest threat to the middle class. Fact, blacks in America have been decimated by Obama's policies, unemployment is actually higher than the great depression if you use real figures like the 22% real unemployment. Obama has raised the debt by 4 trillion in 3 years.
            The middle class should send this incompetent socialist back to the swamp he crawled out of.
            the rest of the nation is figuring this out, just look at his polls.
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            • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 12:42 am ET)
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              Fact, blacks in America have been decimated by Obama's policies,


              Examples?

              unemployment is actually higher than the great depression if you use real figures like the 22% real unemployment.


              That is normally the disastrous effect of an economic depression. One which started before Obama even was elected, yet which was pinned on him before he went into power.

              Obama has raised the debt by 4 trillion in 3 years.


              Why is it that the it always escapes the right the fact that Obama added the wars to the budget. How do you think that debt just suddenly appeared?

              The middle class should send this incompetent socialist back to the swamp he crawled out of.
              the rest of the nation is figuring this out, just look at his polls.


              And put who up? The Mormon "RINO" from Taxachussets? Some guy who had never had any type of actual government experience and whose idea of legislation is shorter than a health pamphlet? An insane woman who would she ever get power she would very likely establish a theocracy (were Congress to allow it)? That idiot hick form Alaska who couldn't even finish a goddamn term?

              Also polls don't matter. What matters is what happens in the election booth.

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          • Author by rusty hinges (August 04, 2011 12:51 pm ET)
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            But a feudal society is EXACTLY what these people want.
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    • Author by phlcstgan (August 03, 2011 9:43 am ET)
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      You know who really has grounds to be offended by this? Terrorists.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (August 03, 2011 10:07 am ET)
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        Maybe they can start a class action lawsuit against the Teaterrorists.
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      • Author by HughG (August 03, 2011 11:47 am ET)
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        Borowitz Report, 8/2/11: Biden Compares Tea Party to Terrorists; Al-Qaeda Demands Apology
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      • Author by CAL (August 03, 2011 2:24 pm ET)
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        Without hypocrisy, there could not be a modern "conservative" movement. It's entire evil, vile existence is wholly predecated in duping the gullible in acting against their own self-interest.
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      • Author by Pilot1 (August 03, 2011 11:10 pm ET)
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        The liar in chief Obama calls real terrorists ( you know the radical Muslims who blow up innocent women and children) man made disasters, and his administration and multitudes on the left call patriotic Americans terrorists. No wonder he is endorsed by the communist party!
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        • Author by kabniel (August 03, 2011 11:19 pm ET)
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          Pilot

          You are a liar and a piece of garbage. You have no honor and no integrity. It disgusts me that we share the same planet. You are a coward and a weasel. Every post you make disgusts me just a little more. Is there a single person on the planet that doesnt begin projectile vomiting as soon as they come into range of the stench emitted from your rotting soul?
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          • Author by Pilot1 (August 03, 2011 11:23 pm ET)
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            Wow K. Did someone kick the crap out of you on the playground today? Better take some Valium and cuddle up with your communist manafesto.
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            • Author by kabniel (August 03, 2011 11:31 pm ET)
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              Pilot

              Nah. I was actually the star of the wrestling team. Was offered two scholarships. Didnt get picked on much. Then again I wasnt a stupid, pathetic coward like YOU.

              Stop your pitiful snivelling. You are a LIAR. You come in and heap contempt on us. Tell lies. Show everyone how incredibly stupid you are and I amuse myself by slapping the stupid out of you. I consider it fun and entertaining.

              You keep saying that word communist and all it shows is that you are flat out too STUPID to know what a communist is. GOD but you are pathetic
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              • Author by Pilot1 (August 03, 2011 11:42 pm ET)
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                You really don't get it do you, you heap personal attacks on me at every chance, call me a liar with not one shred of proof, you never have a coherent counterpoint, you are just an angry, hateful person.
                The fact is you nothing about me and you judge and attack because I have a different opinion than you.
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                • Author by kabniel (August 03, 2011 11:52 pm ET)
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                  Pilot

                  Oh I get it. I treat you the way you deserve to be treated. I call you a LIAR for the best reason in the world. YOU. ARE. A. LIAR. I show proof all the time but most of your posts are such self evident lies it is just pointing out water is wet.

                  You are a LIAR. I often have coherent arguments. I just dont waste them on your hateful ignorant talking point regurgitating posts.

                  The post I responded to didnt call for any rebuttal. It was just a bunch of lies and stupidity. Your post was exactly the same as mine. A bunch of baseless assertions and vitriol. You are a punk. You like to dish it out then snivel like the loser you are when you we return serve.

                  YOu are a LIAR. I judge your posts filled with LIES and stupidity. I actually treat you better than you deserve you
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                • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 12:04 am ET)
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                  The fact is you [know] nothing about me and you judge and attack because I have a different opinion than you.


                  I wonder why you only consider this when you are at the receiving end and not while dishing it out.
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                  • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 12:18 am ET)
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                    My personal attacks are quite limited here, I much prefer a debate but name calling is much more acceptable here.
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                    • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 12:30 am ET)
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                      I much prefer a debate


                      I don't know form where you learned the definition of debate, but that must have been the worse dictionary ever. Last i checked, debate was not coming out of the blue and insulting people randomly or trying to act all superior to everyone while acting passive-aggressively and expecting respect based on who you say you are instead of proving your worth. You have never debated a single day of your life here and i can go way back in Google to prove it were i need to.
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                      • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 12:51 am ET)
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                        All you liberal do is default to name calling. You offer no debate only insults. Kind of like the democrat party as a whole.
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                        • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 12:53 am ET)
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                          When you throw the first punch, you lose the right to wail when you get beat.
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                          • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 12:59 am ET)
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                            There's the default again. Maybe if you really work at it you to can come up with an original thought. I won't hold my breath.
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                            • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 1:02 am ET)
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                              Where did i name call you in the previous post? Do you even know what name calling is?
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                        • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 12:57 am ET)
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                          This was your first post ever:

                          by Pilot1 (October 17, 2009 10:26 am ET) 1 4
                          What qualifies Obama to be president? He is a no[sic] nothing with no experience who is not qualified to run a hot dog cart let alone lead this great nation. Obams's[sic] forign[sic] policy is a disaster and he is a total discrace[sic] to the world. Obama is the most corupt politian[sic] in american history and has given payback to all his communist, radical cronies.


                          Followed by this as your first standalone post:


                          [url=by Pilot1 (October 17, 2009 12:05 pm ET) 2 My, My, MY, so many communists, so many marxists, so much cool-aid all in one pathetic place. REPLY REPORT ABUSE] by Pilot1 (October 17, 2009 12:05 pm ET) 2 [/url]
                          My, My, MY, so many communists, so many marxists, so much cool-aid all in one pathetic place.


                          Took me less than a minute to find them. Now tell me, is this debate to you?
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                          • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 1:16 am ET)
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                            Point 1, Obama offered cushy jobs to over 200 campaign contributors, that's corruption.
                            Point 2, holder and Obama are being investigated for obstruction of justice and intimidating witnesses in the Mexico gun bust and this operation ended the life of federal agents.
                            Point 3, Obama has doubled the amount of limos over the Bush admin. He added more than 200 at over $4.2 million per.
                            Point 4, the debt is now 100 % of GDP the highest in history and Obama will preside over the first downgrade of US credit in history.
                            Point 5, real unemployment is at 22% not the "cook the books" 9.2% Obama sites.
                            Point 6, Obama cares nothing about the middle class, his job destroying policies has the middle class in deep trouble, unemployment, foreclosures, and mired in debt.
                            Point 7, Obama did a cram down of his Obama care on America, the CBO called him out on his lies, and he created an artificial crisis to get the vote before anyone could read it.
                            Point 8. Shovel ready jobs, right, a proven lie.
                            Point 9' unemployment won't go over 8%. another lie.
                            Point 10, the stimulus will create jobs. None, zero, all he created is debt.
                            This fool incompetent fool is a corrupt, liar.
                            Deal with it.

                            Obama is an incompetent fool who is over his head.
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                            • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 1:20 am ET)
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                              Just saying things does not make them true. Do you have any objective source for any of that? Some of the things you say are so obviously inaccurate, i don't know if you are just being a liar or very deluded.

                              Also, you should check a thesaurus and try to edit your posts with spell check before you post.
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                              • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 1:36 am ET)
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                                What is it about the Obama economy you like so much? Maybe you like that unemployment is not 50%, or that 25% of homes are worth less than is owed, maybe it's that Obama's reckless spending has our debt at 200% of GDP rather than the 100% disaster.
                                Just what is it that you like, oh I get it, you pay no income tax and ate on the government entitlement plan, that explains it.
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                                • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 1:38 am ET)
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                                  Were you writing something? I couldn't understand a word of that post because of all the frothing and pointless rage and flailing.
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                            • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 1:21 am ET)
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                              I also just realize how you completely ignored what i posted before going into another one of your Obama Derangement Syndrome rants.
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                              • Author by cripto9t709 (August 04, 2011 8:54 am ET)
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                                Successful Capitalists are predictable that way.

                                You'd think he could back-up at least one of them.

                                My personal favorite is "in over his head" right after "Obama cram down".

                                LOL
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                            • Author by GreenLantern (August 04, 2011 8:36 pm ET)
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                              Point 1, Obama offered cushy jobs to over 200 campaign contributors, that's corruption.
                              That is not technically corruption. It is corruption if they were wildly unqualified like "browny" at FEMA. You need to post more then this talking point.
                              Point 2, holder and Obama are being investigated for obstruction of justice and intimidating witnesses in the Mexico gun bust and this operation ended the life of federal agents.
                              I don't like this either, but didn't this start BEFORE his presidency? He should fix it but I hate how you wingers twist the reality to ONLY criticize him now!
                              Point 3, Obama has doubled the amount of limos over the Bush admin. He added more than 200 at over $4.2 million per.
                              I could not find corroborating evidence. I will call this a lie.
                              Point 4, the debt is now 100 % of GDP the highest in history and Obama will preside over the first downgrade of US credit in history.
                              Huh? Where did you get that? Confusing the Debt with Deficit again to twist numbers to a false conclusion? Also the downgrade in US credit is coming from the teabaggers! First time in US history the debt was used as a hostage for a party to demand country hurting policies!
                              Point 5, real unemployment is at 22% not the "cook the books" 9.2% Obama sites.
                              Real Inflation is also bigger then 2%. What is your point, that Obama couldn't make repug tax cuts create jobs for the first time ever tried. I must have created thousands of jobs with the extra 14 bucks a month I got on repug demanded tax cuts! (Course billionaires created zillions of jobs with theirs.... Oh, no they didn't they just hoarded money and are sitting on it now)
                              Point 6, Obama cares nothing about the middle class, his job destroying policies has the middle class in deep trouble, unemployment, foreclosures, and mired in debt.
                              Obama is a bad negotiator. He also is afraid to fight as the hate-wing media which DOMINATES This country since before 2000, will call him an "angry black man" and use that so that more racist faux news watchers can cheer on the KKK!
                              Point 7, Obama did a cram down of his Obama care on America, the CBO called him out on his lies, and he created an artificial crisis to get the vote before anyone could read it.
                              I wish there was "care" in the so-called obamacare! The repugs eviscerated every part of the bill over and over to make it worse and dems negotiated in faith, then the repugs voted NO on everything they demanded. (We made the bill really suck, took away a public option or single payer, now when it fails because of our stuff we demanded, we can celebrate the deaths of lots of American children and women and blame the "libruls"! ha ha ha!
                              Point 8. Shovel ready jobs, right, a proven lie.
                              yeah that many repugs took CREDIT FOR! Holding the checks like THEY DID IT! BUT THEY VOTED NO NO NO NO NO! How stupid are you! UGH repeating that lie!
                              Point 9' unemployment won't go over 8%. another lie.
                              Once again, how stupid are you? If you believe that faux news made up reason there might be no hope for you.
                              Point 10, the stimulus will create jobs. None, zero, all he created is debt.
                              Too bad you don't seem to be able to do research, see my answer to "point 8" above
                              This fool incompetent fool is a corrupt, liar.
                              Deal with it.
                              See the difference between the people here and you are that we don't march Lock-Step and Blitzkrieg the other party, lie and steal and actually kill people with policies we support. You are OK with no health care to children not born wealthy, you are OK with billionaires paying people $2.00 an hour because they must be better then everyone else because they were born wealthy, you are OK with starting wars and murdering innocent people because bush said God told him to (sounds more like satan to me!) We are human, we think there is a roll in government to help ALL the people, not just the richest! And we don't think Guns are the answer to everything. (even John Wayne didn't, REALLY!)

                              I am sure you will label me a "communist" I am just a practicing Christian, like many others here, but apparently not you.
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                      • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 04, 2011 1:02 am ET)
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                        It's amazing how many right wingers on the internets are successful capitalists who don't seem to know anything about current events or politics, and write and think at about a third grade level.

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            • Author by eweston8542983 (August 03, 2011 11:32 pm ET)
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              If you hear a knock at the door, don't answer.

              Its the communist manafesto, and its p*ssed.
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              • Author by Pilot1 (August 03, 2011 11:38 pm ET)
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                It's probably Bill Ayres ( the terrorist) looking for the liar in chief Obama. They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps, that makes Obama one heck of a commie terrorist.
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                • Author by kabniel (August 03, 2011 11:54 pm ET)
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                  Pilot

                  You are a LIAR. You are too stupid to know what a communist is. YOu spew talking points because you are too stupid to think for yourself. About the twentieth or thirtieth time we debunk them we get sick of it but you are so STUPID you just keep spewing it anyway. GOD but you are pathetic. Why arent you embarassed to be such an ignorant brainwashed MORON?
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                  • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 12:02 am ET)
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                    Another copy and paste job there K? I think you spent to much time with your nose jambed into your opponents armpit.
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                    • Author by kabniel (August 04, 2011 12:06 am ET)
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                      Pilot

                      You are a LIAR. You have never thought in your life. It is rich to see YOU talk about cut and paste since if you didnt just spew out the LIES and talking points you were brainwashed with you wouldnt have a single thing to say since you are FAR too stupid to think for yourself. You are about the most pathetic individual alive
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                      • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 12:14 am ET)
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                        Maybe you could get more hate words in if you used an automatic random word generator. You repeat the same insults over and over and over, get a life.
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                        • Author by kabniel (August 04, 2011 12:17 am ET)
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                          Pilot

                          What a hypocrite you are. Have you read your own posts? After your name they are nonstop hate and lies. You are pathetic. You dont deserve to be treated any better than you treat us.

                          I do love what a coward you are. You drop by slinging your lies and insults at us. Heaping contempt on us then snivel like the punk you are that we return serve. GOD but you are pitiful
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                          • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 12:56 am ET)
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                            K. You offer no debate, never disproved any of my statements, and just continue spewing your hate. Everyone of your posts is basically the same pack of insults.
                            Grow up, get a life, try and prove me wrong, debate do something except hate.
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                            • Author by Deluded (August 04, 2011 8:53 am ET)
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                              never disproved any of my statements


                              Statements that have not been proved cannot undergo the process of "disproving".

                              You'll have to give a little to receive.
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                • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 12:01 am ET)
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                  You mean for being in the same board as Bill Ayers?
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                • Author by eweston8542983 (August 04, 2011 12:07 am ET)
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                  Incitement Troll incites.

                  Poorly.
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                • Author by rusty hinges (August 04, 2011 12:55 pm ET)
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                  The liar in chief was Baby Bush. Get your facts (I know you conservatives don't know what that is) right.
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    • Author by jonimacaroni1 (August 03, 2011 11:20 am ET)
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      The idea that liberals are coordinating their message is ridiculous on the face of it. Making Democrats all toe the line is like herding cats. Have you not read the dissention on DailyKos, for example?

      It's Fox News which published Republican talking points, including their typos, directly from PowerPoint slides!
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      • Author by Badtime (August 03, 2011 3:43 pm ET)
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        It only appears that "the libs" are coordinating their message because they're all reading from the same book - reality.
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        • Author by jonimacaroni1 (August 03, 2011 6:28 pm ET)
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          Well, that too.
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        • Author by Pilot1 (August 03, 2011 11:21 pm ET)
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          The book called "talking points" the same liberal lemmings who called Bush hitler, a murderer and now half of the liberal left calling every day citizens terrorists. Hypriocy times 48 to the 64th power.
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          • Author by kabniel (August 03, 2011 11:56 pm ET)
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            Pilot

            You are a LIAR. You do nothing but spew lies. You are too stupid to know how to spell hypocrisy. GOD But you are pathetic. You just spew such ignorant things about the left because you are a LIAR. You are also pathetically stupid but mostly you are a LIAR.
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            • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 12:07 am ET)
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              Actually, I am a successful, free market capitalist and that does not fit with your socialist agenda does it?
              Well it you wait long enough I am sure Comrade Obama will confiscate it from me and give it to you. God help us, what has this administration done to this country?
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              • Author by kabniel (August 04, 2011 12:10 am ET)
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                Oukit

                You are always going to be too STUPID to know what socialism is. GOD but you are pathetic. You are a PROVEN LIAR. Why in the world would I believe anything you say about yourself? You are so stupid you tell us what you were TOLD to think about what this administration is doing. No one with a functional cerebral cortex cares what you were TOLD to think. You are simply pathetic and stupid beyond belief
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              • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 12:11 am ET)
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                Did you ever consider that maybe Kabniel owns a business or works? Also wasn't you who said/typed this:

                The fact is you [know] nothing about me and you judge and attack because I have a different opinion than you.

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                • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 1:22 am ET)
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                  Generally liberals with a socialist agenda don't own businesses. Pro free market capitalist own businesses. Not much of leap there.
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                  • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 1:25 am ET)
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                    Nah, that's a massive logical leap that leads to an even bigger logical fallacy. For one it relies mostly on the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
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                  • Author by Deluded (August 04, 2011 8:55 am ET)
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                    This is what is called stereotyping.

                    Whether it is true or not....well you show us.
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                  • Author by rusty hinges (August 04, 2011 12:57 pm ET)
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                    Got any proof there buddy. Doubt it. It must be nice to live in the little make believe world you live in.
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          • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 12:09 am ET)
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            Unlike people like you who call everybody who is either to the left of them or a different religion from them "Terrorists" or "traitors".
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            • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 1:26 am ET)
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              That's a lie. I have never said that. If your talking about something like " not all Muslims are terrorist, but all terrorists are Muslim" well that's just a fact.
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              • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 1:30 am ET)
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                Your dictionary seems to have a very bizarre definition of the word fact. Last i checked, the most recent notorious terrorist attack was not performed by a Muslim or even a middle eastern. Or is it not a terrorist attack because it was not done by any of the two?
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                • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 1:44 am ET)
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                  If your referring to Norway, the man was a lunatic, his government(Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Palestine, etc, etc) did not encourage the murder of innocent people,he is more like Charles Manson another lunatic. Nothin in the Christian faith unlike Islam command you to murder infidels.
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                  • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 1:50 am ET)
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                    Nope, he was a terrorist. He attacked civilian targets with a political reason behind it. Terrorism does not need to be encouraged by government (if anything most terrorist groups are either anti-government or oppose governments).

                    Just changing the definition of terrorist to fit your bigotry does not make it a reality. Another you have wrong is that nothing in the Islamic faith commands you to murder infidels (much less Christians or Jews, the "people of the book").
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                    • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 2:09 am ET)
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                      Take your PC definition and tell that to the Jews who have had 6000 missiles fired at them, tell that to the 2800 innocent people's in the World Trade Towers, tell that to the countless innocent women and kids killed by suicide bombers, many of them brainwashed kids, tell that to the jihadists who vow to wipe Isreal and the west off the map. Tell that to David Pearls family. Tell that to the countless brave soldiers defending your freedom.
                      Don't waste my time you pathetic Muslim sympathizer. Go and join the jihad you PC fool.
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                      • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 2:13 am ET)
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                        It must be very easy to live in a world where you can only see things in shades of black and white and good and evil. So i will return your advice to you in a slightly rephrased way.

                        Take your Saturday morning cartoon definition of reality and go out to the real world. Those Muslims you trash are people like you and me. Your "concern" for all those innocents you mentioned is as phony as it is vile. If somebody here is pathetic, is you. I wonder how must it be to be so cowardly.
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                        • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 2:23 am ET)
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                          Dream on and enjoy your parallel universe, obviously not all Muslims are terrorists, but the vast majority of terrorist are Muslim. Just a hard cold fact. And to think I fought to protect and defend your freedom. Wow.
                          You are the pathetic coward who can't see the forest for the trees. Your a PC wimp!
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                          • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 2:28 am ET)
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                            Don't worry i didn't need you to. Were the time to come, i can do so myself.

                            Not only can I see the forest for the trees, I can walk outside without worrying about a communist or a Muslim around every corner or behind every shadow or the United States being destroyed any second. You on the other hand live under a cloud of fear and persecution where everybody is either with you or against you.

                            BTW, Most terrorist are also men, does that mean that we must fear and target men?
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                      • Author by Badtime (August 04, 2011 2:25 pm ET)
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                        Take your poor attempt at an appeal to emotion and tell it to people who know how to argue like adults.

                        You are really bad at this.
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                    • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 2:27 am ET)
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                      Wrong, the Koran commands the fateful to kill the infidel if he or she won't convert to Islam.
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                      • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 2:30 am ET)
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                        Source please? And by source, i mean the actual Suras and not some bigoted website like Religion of Peace or Atlas Shrugs.
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                        • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 10:11 am ET)
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                          Here is just one source,


                           Why is it so hard for Muslim to become a Christian or join with another religion? Mohammed said, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.” (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57) This command is practiced in almost all Islamic Fundamentalist countries today.
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                      • Author by Deluded (August 04, 2011 8:57 am ET)
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                        I would already be dead many times over if that were the case.

                        That's because I grew up in a community together with Muslims and never once have I expressed ANY belief of their scriptures or the Quaran or Allah.

                        Guess that means I'm ghostwriting here....
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                  • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 1:52 am ET)
                       
                    Here is the FBI's definition of "terrorism":

                    There is no single, universally accepted, definition of terrorism. Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”


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              • Author by Badtime (August 04, 2011 12:23 pm ET)
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                Your "facts" are silly, and easily disproven by a simple google search of "terrorist acts in the past 20 years".

                When reality doesnt mesh with your "facts", you choose to live in fantasy world. Your willful ignorance and denial would be amusing if there werent so many of you with the right to vote.
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    • Author by tbone (August 03, 2011 11:48 am ET)
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      KRAUTHAMMER: Normally a terrorist says, "I want you to convert. I want your daughter. I want your money. I want your submission."

      Telling, but not surprising, that a major Fox contributor has no idea what terrorism actually is.
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    • Author by jamesB (August 03, 2011 11:55 am ET)
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      terrorist - it's the new hitler epithet apparently. it's the new OMG! you didn't call me that jaw-dropping label that sends victims-in-waiting rushing to call foul. get used to it. it's a result of the crass coarsening of our political discourse that has name calling front and center, and terms like terrorist losing their punch anymore. i am sick of cons and libs complaining about it and acting all high and mighty when it's directed at one of theirs. that whine has also lost its punch. sadly, it is what it is. depressing.
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (August 03, 2011 6:07 pm ET)
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        It's really sad, and I think the biggest influence of this style of hyperbolic, hyper-partisan, name calling, "ism" labeling, is none other then Rush Limbaugh. The biggest perpetrators of this "debate style" would be the monolithically monopolistic Clear Channel AM radio talk, and Fox news.

        I'm not saying no liberals ever do the same thing, but it's like comparing a golf ball to a bowling ball.
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        • Author by jamesB (August 03, 2011 6:10 pm ET)
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          well, the loudmouths on right wing radio outnumber the left, for sure. but all these pejoratives have become so watered down anymore as they are just thrown out there with little to no regard for their appropriateness, so to get all testy when they are used against you is really meaningless. coarse rhetoric only invites more and feeds off of itself.
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          • Author by mary59 (August 03, 2011 7:23 pm ET)
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            Good point.
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          • Author by kabniel (August 03, 2011 8:49 pm ET)
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            I like seeing you be reasonable james. I reject your equivalence argument but I am always looking for a rational conversation with a reasonable conservative.
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          • Author by cripto9t709 (August 04, 2011 10:04 am ET)
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            They might be watered down now, but they were straight-up in 2002. I was called a traitor in my hometown newspaper by the likes of Ann Coulter and the other idiots piled on. I was called a traitor until Obama got elected, then I became a communist, fascist, socialist. I won't forget none of it.

            They're watered down because of idiots like pilot1, who to this day doesn't know what socialism, communism or fascism means. He uses them interchangeably. The dumb f()ck claims to be a successful free market capitalist and touts Reagan, who surrounded himself with neo-cons. The same neo-cons that were in charge for most of the last decade. They were anything but free market.

            These dumb bast@rds brought it on themselves. If they start whining, a beat-down is the least they deserve.

            Like the Dixie Chicks say "I'm not ready to play nice".
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    • Author by magnolialover (August 03, 2011 1:00 pm ET)
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      Yeah, I mean, it's not as if we weren't called terrorists and treasonous when we didn't go along with Bush's invasion into Iraq or anything like that. Or, it's not as if the POTUS said that if one of us were elected to be President, it would bring down terrorist attacks on America.

      Nothing like that would have ever come from republicans right?
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    • Author by draftedin68 (August 03, 2011 2:15 pm ET)
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      Just about every definition you can find for "terrorism" includes the use of violence to achieve a political or religious goal.

      Since one of the definitions of "violence" is: Abusive or unjust exercise of power, I think there's a good case for using the term to describe the actions of the Batschittcrazy Wing of the Republican Party.

      If it has webbed feet, quacks and schitts through feathers...

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      • Author by Pilot1 (August 03, 2011 11:59 pm ET)
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        Abuse of power, oh please, like when Holder and Obama obstruct justice, intimidate witnesses and sweep the murder of a federal agent on the border under the rug? Or maybe it't Holders putting the fix on the black panthers voter intimidation case. How about when the coruptocrat in chief did a " cram down" on the American people with his socialist CommieCare.
        Or maybe how he doubled the amount of limos on his watch, adding over 200 at $4.2 million a piece. The voters will send this incompetent piece. Back to the swamp he crawled out of in 2012.
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        • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 12:03 am ET)
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          Abuse of power, oh please, like when Holder and Obama obstruct justice, intimidate witnesses and sweep the murder of a federal agent on the border under the rug?


          When has any of that happened?

          Or maybe it't Holders putting the fix on the black panthers voter intimidation case.


          Wow, i didn't know Holder was the AG during the Bush administration. You do learn something new every day.

          How about when the coruptocrat in chief did a " cram down" on the American people with his socialist CommieCare.


          What?

          Or maybe how he doubled the amount of limos on his watch, adding over 200 at $4.2 million a piece.


          You are just making $#!t up now.
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          • Author by Pilot1 (August 04, 2011 2:14 am ET)
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            My how uninformed you are, your just like the Obamatron. It's all true and yes Holder gave the Black Panthers voter intimidation case the big toilet flush. Had nothing to do with Bush, Holders head Attny, resigned because of the obvious corruption.
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            • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2011 2:20 am ET)
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              It's all true and yes Holder gave the Black Panthers voter intimidation case the big toilet flush.


              The case was given its due treatment back when it happened, during the Bush administration. Nobody came forward to state they were intimidated nor was there any evidence of intimidation. Last i checked you need proof in order to lead to a judgement.
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            • Author by cripto9t709 (August 04, 2011 10:30 am ET)
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              Seems to me this happened when bush was still President and his AG filed a civil suit against 3 of them.

              Holder prosecuted and got an injunction against the guy with a stick.

              He dropped the suit against the other two. One didn't have a stick and the other wasn't there.

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            • Author by mjlilgui (August 04, 2011 4:49 pm ET)
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              It's all true


              [CITATION NEEDED]
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        • Author by kabniel (August 04, 2011 12:03 am ET)
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          Pilot

          You are a LIAR. I mean GOD but you are stupid but you are just the most shameless liar I have ever seen.

          You are also still far too STUPID to know what socialist or communist even is. You prove that every time you post. GOD but you are pathetic.

          Holder put in no fix on the NBP case. You are a LIAR. We have been over this a few hundred times. It is a proven fact that you are a LIAR. Stupid beyond belief, brainwashed to an embarassing degree but mostly you are a LIAR.

          You are also so incredibly STUPID that no one in their right mind cared what you WISH were going to happen in 2012. GOD but you are pathetic
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        • Author by draftedin68 (August 04, 2011 1:07 am ET)
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          Hey there Beckbot, chew your way free didya?

          Just so's you know, this site is for people with their schit just a weeeee bit more together than yours.

          Please return to Glenn's site and rejoin the spittle-drenched babblefest.

          And gawddamn! I sure as hell hope that if you are actually a licensed pilot that you're restricted to airspace over unpopulated areas.

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          • Author by Missouri Democrat (August 04, 2011 5:07 pm ET)
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            Drafted maybe it's Inhofe in disguise!

            Sorry couldn't resist that one.
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        • Author by Badtime (August 04, 2011 12:29 pm ET)
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          I love your smorgasbord of debunked talking points! Every point that you have made has been soundly dis-proven, and yet here you are spouting this nonsense. You pretend as if the information is not out there, but you are (as stated before) willfully ignorant. You have a set world view in your head and no amount of pesky truth will change that.

          To even waste our time with rehashing why you're a sock-puppet is pointless. You never argue like an adult - when you are beaten (which is often) you resort to personal attacks, appeals to emotion, or you change the topic (which is how we got to here.)

          Stop wasting our time.
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    • Author by kathy5 (August 03, 2011 2:26 pm ET)
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      Yes, Billo - you at Fox get your talking points on a daily basis. All one needs to do to prove that is count the number of times the same words/string of words is repeated in a 24 hour cycle at Faux News.

      And YES, Fox and righties would know all about "repeating the same thing over and over again will make it a reality in the minds of those on the right" - you program your listeners on a daily basis - in a very deliberate way. Which of course speaks volumes for the intelligence level of your audience.
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    • Author by jbug2012 (August 03, 2011 2:40 pm ET)
         
      I find that most people on the right and the left tend to look at all of the peripherals of a situation, rather than the solution to the situation itself. No entity should spend money that it doesn't have. Decisions should be made first how to spend what we DO have in the bank or can reasonably be counted on, which will obviously require compromise. Then, the slate begins there. If more services are wanted, then taxes will need to be raised. But we make the decision on how to spend what we have first...THEN, we can decide if we want more services and how those services might be paid for.

      Also, who cares about what people say? We have free speech in this country the last time I checked...begin caring more about what they do....also, stop blaming Obama. I actually don't care for his leadership style at all, but it is Congress that continues to act like childish idiots. The Executive branch is designed to enforce and protect, not to initiate laws.
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    • Author by Nihilist (August 03, 2011 2:51 pm ET)
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      my fox fave: e.d.hill in 08, "theres obama giving his wife a 'terrorist' fist bump...."... anyone remember that one? no she's on CNN? the cables are incestuous....
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      • Author by marco21 (August 03, 2011 5:04 pm ET)
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        I do. Let's not forget this fat piece of split also called Dr. George Tiller "Tiller the Baby Killer."
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        • Author by datruthfarmer (August 04, 2011 1:31 am ET)
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          What kind of soul must BillO have to NOT feel that he somehow contributed to George Tiller death?
          Most likely though if a part of Bill was troubled about what he said, he would go to his Magic Book find a Magic passage to justify his crime, talk to his Magic Book Magic Person for a bit, pay a little donation and walk out a free man who is indeed upon the path his Maker set for him.

          The is no logical explanation for the mind of BillO the Nitwit, which is just the way Rupert likes it.
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    • Author by scooter51 (August 03, 2011 2:54 pm ET)
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      classic Fox projection. Anything they accuse the left of, they are guilty of.
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      • Author by Badtime (August 03, 2011 3:52 pm ET)
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        That's how it works when you're dealing with an opponent you know nothing about.

        You take the worst things you are capable of, the most dire fears you possess, and you attribute these things to your opponent.
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      • Author by riverdog (August 03, 2011 6:16 pm ET)
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        fox is guilty but biden should not have said it. poor taste and no class. the vice prez seems to be a truely nice guy but should not have been tagged as obamas running mate. like to see after the election biden retire and they get someone with a future (assuming they win of course).
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        • Author by cripto9t709 (August 04, 2011 10:35 am ET)
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          Biden said he didn't say it. I'll believe him until the anonymous coward comes forward with proof.
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    • Author by Retired (August 03, 2011 4:41 pm ET)
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      So here we go. Fox commenting on alleged comments. Would this make their comments alleged? Old fashioned. Show me the proof or facts.
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    • Author by mcnairbo6573 (August 03, 2011 5:22 pm ET)
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      Hey, it was extortion pure and simple. Holding a gun to the head of America. If you don't like it, then stop doing it.
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    • Author by mcnairbo6573 (August 03, 2011 5:23 pm ET)
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      When the right wind demands an apology, it needs to be answered with a simple guffaw.
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    • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 03, 2011 6:39 pm ET)
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      I first heard Simple Sarah's reaction to this, where she mentioned , several times, that she was "appalled". And I thought "Wow, has she really thrown her 'palling around with terrorists' comment down the memory hole ?".

      Then I heard her, still appalled, whining about this in the same breath that she was referencing her remarks. That's a profound lack of self-awareness.



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      • Author by draftedin68 (August 03, 2011 7:02 pm ET)
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        If you have pets in your home and don't want to really pis them off, I'd suggest using headphones rather than speakers when you know that St. Sarah O'Stoopid will be on.

        Every two weeks, I play a loop tape with some of her comments for 5 minutes at high volume - haven't seen a spider or insect since I started doing this.

        Unfortunately, both of our cats hate me for a day and a half after I do it.

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    • Author by uncle_samurai420 (August 03, 2011 11:39 pm ET)
         
      There are people on the left who have commited acts of terroism as well. The sad thing is that american politics has become so polarized and immature that a person who disagrees with you is now the same as terrorists of any race that hate and kill americans. its pretty messed up,and DOnt forget why those people hate us, its not hate because of the constitution and the bill of rights, they hate america because the cia and special forces have been conducting covert false flag terrorists attacks all over the world going as far back as the 1950s when even democraticly elected leaders were blamed for the attacks by cia misimformation.
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    • Author by Red XIV (August 04, 2011 1:28 am ET)
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      There's a huge difference, though: when the Tea Party loons are compared to terrorists, it's actually an accurate comparison.
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    • Author by nitpicker (August 04, 2011 11:31 am ET)
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      Threatening to take down the economy if you don't get your way? Not terrorism.

      Being gay, though? Just like being a terrorist.
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