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Fox's History Of Mainstreaming Hate

August 08, 2011 11:07 am ET — 158 Comments

Fox & Friends recently hosted Andrea Lafferty, president of the Traditional Values Coalition (TVC), an organization that the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has labeled an anti-gay "hate group." Lafferty, who has described SPLC's designation of her group as a "badge of honor," is the latest member of an organization that SPLC has designated as a hate group or otherwise criticized for propagating hateful rhetoric to be invited to speak on Fox News.

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Fox Hosts TVC President Andrea Lafferty

Fox & Friends Hosts TVC President Andrea Lafferty. On the August 4 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, the co-hosts interviewed Andrea Lafferty, head of the Traditional Values Coalition (TVC), about TVC's report criticizing grants funded by the National Institute of Health. [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 8/4/11]

Southern Poverty Law Center: TVC Is An Anti-Gay "Hate Group"

SPLC Labels TVC An Anti-Gay "Hate Group." According to the SPLC, TVC will be listed as an anti-gay hate group as of 2011. SPLC elevates anti-gay groups to hate group status "based on their propagation of known falsehoods -- claims about LGBT people that have been thoroughly discredited by scientific authorities -- and repeated, groundless name-calling." From SPLC:

The group has at times enjoyed remarkable access to the halls of power -- during the George W. Bush Administration, Sheldon and Lafferty visited the White House a combined 69 times, meeting personally with Bush in eight of the visits. But that does not mean that it has not long had a record of extreme gay-bashing.

In 1985, [TVC founder Lou] Sheldon suggested forcing AIDS victims into "cities of refuge." In 1992, columnist Jimmy Breslin said that Sheldon told him that "homosexuals are dangerous. They proselytize. They come to the door, and if your son answers and nobody is there to stop it, they grab the son and run off with him. They steal him. They take him away and turn him into a homosexual." Sheldon later denied that he made the comments, but his website today includes strikingly similar language: "[S]ince homosexuals can't reproduce, they will simply go after your children for seduction and conversion to homosexuality." Elsewhere, it claims that "[t]he effort to push adult/child sex ... is part of the overall homosexual movement."

The TVC also asserts that "it is evident that homosexuals molest children at a far greater rate than do their heterosexual counterparts" -- a falsehood based on conflating male-male molestation with homosexuality. Gays, it says, molest children at "epidemic rates," adding: "As homosexuals continue to make inroads into public schools, more children will be molested and indoctrinated into the world of homosexuality. Many of them will die in that world." With regard to LGBT teen suicides, TVC, under the headline "Homosexual Urban Legends," claims that "[t]he cold, hard fact is that teens who are struggling with homosexual feelings are more likely to be sexually molested by a homosexual school counselor or teacher than to commit suicide over their feelings of despair."

The TVC also makes assertions on its website about disproportionate homosexual pedophilia and attacks the idea that people are born gay and the claim that gays want the right to marry for the same reasons that heterosexuals do -- the TVC suggests the real purpose of marriage equality is to destroy the concept of marriage and ultimately replace it altogether with group sex and polygamy. [Southern Poverty Law Center, accessed 8/5/11]

Lafferty Considers TVC's Hate Group Designation To Be A "Badge Of Honor." In an April 22, 2010, post on her blog, Lafferty described TVC's status as a hate group to be a "badge of honor." From Lafferty's blog:

The best [TVC opponent Dr. Jillian] Weiss and his allies can do to defend ENDA is trying to link Traditional Values Coalition as a hate group. In his argument against TVC, Weiss brings up the red herring that our organization is listed as a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

[...]

Actually, it is a badge of honor for TVC to be listed by the SPLC as a "hate group." It proves we're effective in challenging liberalism, socialism, and the LGBT agenda. [AndreaLafferty.org, 4/22/10]

Indeed, Lafferty And TVC Have A Long History Of Extreme Anti-Gay Rhetoric

Lafferty: Gays "Want Sodomy And ... Everyone In America To Embrace Their Depraved Behaviors." In an April 30, 2009, post on her blog, Lafferty claimed:

[LGBT activists] desecrated a cemetery where Samuel Adams and other Revolutionary War heroes are buried. But, why should that matter? They want sodomy and they want everyone in America to embrace their depraved behaviors. Anyone who opposes them faces vilification, harassment, and violence.

[...]

The Congress springs into action to defend the "rights" of homosexuals, pedophiles and necrophiliacs, but no one is there to enforce the law when Christians are targeted by the politically-correct armies of extremists. [AndreaLafferty.org, 4/30/09]

Lafferty: "Our Nation, Families, And Our Religious Liberties Will Suffer" Due To LGBT Equality Measures. In a June 18, 2009, post on her blog, Lafferty wrote:

Yesterday at a stealth White House event, President Obama signed a memorandum extending benefits to gay, bisexual, lesbian, and transgender sex partners of federal employees. 

During the signing, Obama said, "We all have to acknowledge this is only one step."

[...]

President Obama is, so to speak, in bed with the LGBT activist movement and he can be expected to give them whatever they demand over the next four years. Our nation, families, and our religious liberties will suffer for his decisions. [AndreaLafferty.org, 6/18/09]

Lafferty: "Gays Really Aren't Interested In Marriage ... They Really Want" To "Overthrow The Institution Of Marriage Altogether." In a July 31, 2009, post on her blog, Lafferty called Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), who is a lesbian, a "gay activist ... who masquerades as a Congressman" and complained she proposed legislation to "give gay federal employees 'domestic partner' benefits for their sex partners." Lafferty further claimed:

Gays really aren't interested in marriage anyway. What they really want is to overthrow the institution of marriage altogether and legalize a whole range of bizarre sexual arrangements, which will include polygamy and polyamory. They have openly admitted this as their goal. 

Gay activist Baldwin is playing a key role in the destruction of the institution of marriage. Voters in her district should keep this in mind in 2010. [AndreaLafferty.org, 7/31/09]

Lafferty Claimed Ending DADT Would Cause The Military To "Become A Captive Of The LGBT Political Agenda." In a December 10, 2010, blog post, Lafferty claimed of the potential repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell":

In short, the military will become a captive of the LGBT political agenda and soldiers will be forcibly retrained to accept homosexual behaviors or they will be forced out of the service. This is no way to treat our Armed Forces - especially when we're fighting two wars and face a possible third conflict with North Korea.

[...]

Our military is too important to be subjected to a social experiment by forcing warriors to associate with individuals with same-sex attractions in close quarters. [AndreaLafferty.org, 12/10/10]

Lafferty Complained ENDA Would Prevent Schools From Discrimination. In an April 20, 2010, Roll Call op-ed, Lafferty claimed the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) is a "time bomb" and complained "every public school in America will not be able to discriminate in hiring transgender teachers, and it will be illegal to reassign them from the classroom." [Roll Call4/20/10]

Lafferty Claimed DADT Policy Hearing was a "Pro-Homosexual Love Fest." In a February 3, 2010, post on the TVC website, Lafferty called a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on DADT, a "pro-homosexual love fest." From the Traditional Values Coalition:

Yesterday's Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" (DADT) policy on gays and lesbians in the military was a pro-homosexual love fest among most of the Senators and the two panelists who spoke.

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What was conspicuously absent in the discussion of DADT, was any mention of transgendered individuals serving openly in the military. This omission is significant because the LGBTQ movement has fully embraced the gaggle of cross-dressers, drag queens, transsexuals and she-males (males with female breasts and male genitals).

These transgendered individuals have a mental disorder known as a Gender Identity Disorder and/or Transvestic Fetishism.

Transgenders are lobbying to serve openly in the military, but they face the obstacle of the military still considering sex change operations and transsexualism to be evidence of disordered thinking.

[...]

The LGBTQ movement has deliberately left transgendered persons out of any military discussion because they know this is a "bridge too far" for them to accomplish right now. They will first get their gay, lesbian and bisexual goals done and then come back later to demand that she-males and other mentally disordered persons be permitted to "serve" in the military." [TVC, 2/3/10]

TVC Claimed "Homosexuals Molest At Far Higher Rates Than Do Heterosexuals." In a section labeled "Homosexual Urban Legends" on its website, TVC claimed that "homosexuals pose a far more serious threat to children than do heterosexuals." From TVC:

Homosexuals account for only 1-2% of our population based on current surveys. The National Opinion Research Center in 1992 found that 2.8% of men and 1.4% of women identified themselves as "homosexual" or "bisexual. A 1995 survey of 18-49-year-old men published by the Journal of Sex Research indicated that 2.6% of them had engaged in homosexual sex within the prior 12 months; 4% had had homosexual sex within the past five years. In other words, at least 98-99% of our population is heterosexual in orientation.

Homosexual activists routinely claim that most child molesters are "heterosexual" males, thus shifting the focus away from their own very high rates of molestation. Since 98-99% of the population is heterosexual, it is technically correct to say that most molestations are done by heterosexuals. However, statistics indicate that homosexuals pose a far more serious threat to children than do heterosexuals.

For example: In 1987, Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College conducted a ten-state study of sex abuse cases involving school teachers. He studied 199 cases. Of those, 122 male teachers had molested girls, while 14 female teachers had molested boys. He also discovered that 59 homosexual male teachers had molested boys and four female homosexual teachers had molested girls. In other words, 32 percent of those child molestation cases involved homosexuals. Nearly a third of these cases come from only 1-2% of the population." [TVC, accessed 8/5/11, emphasis in original]

TVC Is Just The Latest Hate Group Or Individual Criticized For Hateful Rhetoric To Be Mainstreamed By Fox

Fox & Friends Hosted President Of FAIR, Which SPLC Designated An Anti-Immigrant Hate Group. On the March 30 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, Carlson hosted Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) President Dan Stein to attack immigrants. According to SPLC, FAIR is an anti-immigrant hate group. SPLC noted:

Although FAIR maintains a veneer of legitimacy that has allowed its principals to testify in Congress and lobby the federal government, this veneer hides much ugliness. FAIR leaders have ties to white supremacist groups and eugenicists and have made many racist statements. Its advertisements have been rejected because of racist content. FAIR's founder, John Tanton, has expressed his wish that America remain a majority-white population: a goal to be achieved, presumably, by limiting the number of nonwhites who enter the country. One of the group's main goals is upending the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, which ended a decades-long, racist quota system that limited immigration mostly to northern Europeans. FAIR President Dan Stein has called the Act a "mistake." [Southern Poverty Law Center, accessed 3/30/11; Media Matters, 3/30/11]

Beck Hosted Author Who Was Member Of League Of The South Hate Group. On the June 8, 2010, edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck, Beck hosted author Thomas Woods, who has been a member of League of the South, which SPLC describes as:

[A] neo-Confederate group that advocates for a second Southern secession and a society dominated by "European Americans." The league believes the "godly" nation it wants to form should be run by an "Anglo-Celtic" (read: white) elite that would establish a Christian theocratic state and politically dominate blacks and other minorities. Originally founded by a group that included many Southern university professors, the group lost its Ph.D.s as it became more explicitly racist. The league denounces the federal government and northern and coastal states as part of "the Empire," a materialist and anti-religious society. [SPLC, accessed 8/4/11; Media Matters, 6/8/10]

Beck Promoted Book By "One Man Hate Group" Eustace Mullins. On the September 22, 2010, edition of his Fox News show, Beck attacked 20th century diplomat Edward House by promoting a book by Eustace Mullins called Secrets of the Federal Reserve. Mullins was described as a "nationally known white supremacist and anti-Semite" in his obituary and was "described in 2000 by the SPLC as a one-man organization of hate." From the Daily News Leader in his hometown of Staunton, VA:

Nationally known white supremacist and anti-Semite Eustace Mullins of Staunton, described in 2000 by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a one-man organization of hate, died Wednesday in Waller County, Texas, at age 86.

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Besides controversial writings in his own name, he was widely believed to have concocted propaganda hoaxes by authoring improbably self-damaging writings attributed to others but supporting Mullins' extremist views. At one point he also adopted the title of "reverend" and saying he represented what he called the "American Humane Church."

Besides his church, he also took credit for or appeared on letterhead of several other organizations, usually operating at his home address at the time.

In 1955 he listed himself as Executive Director of the "Aryan League of America" at a Springhill Road, Staunton, address.

In 1960, his name was one of two listed on the letterhead for the policy committee of the Institute for Biopolitics in Chicago. One memo warned, "The Whiteman's very existence is in danger." [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 9/22/10, via Media Matters; Daily News Leader, 2/5/10, via Nexis]

Fox Pushed Attack On Jennings Based On Claims Made By Anti-Gay Hate Group Mass Resistance. Fox advanced numerous attacks on former Education Department official Kevin Jennings which originated from the anti-gay hate group Mass Resistance. The group was listed in SPLC's list of "Active U.S. Hate Groups in 2008." [Media Matters, 12/10/09]

Fox & Friends Hosted Columnist For "White Nationalist" Website VDARE. On the May 24, 2010, edition of Fox & Friends, co-host Steve Doocy hosted Allan Wall to discuss Arizona's anti-immigration legislation. After the interview, Doocy revealed that Wall is a columnist for VDARE.com, which publishes the works of "white nationalists." According to SPLC, VDARE is a hate group that "regularly publishes articles by prominent white nationalists, race scientists and anti-Semites." [Media Matters, 5/24/10; SPLC, accessed 8/5/11]

Fox & Friends Hosted Official From AIC And AICF, Which SPLC Lists As Anti-Immigrant Hate Groups. On May 14, 2010, Fox & Friends hosted Phil Kent of the Americans for Immigration Control (AIC) and the American Immigration Control Foundation (AICF). According to SPLC, both organizations are anti-immigrant hate groups. From the SPLC:

Founded in 1983, the American Immigration Control Foundation (AICF) is an anti-immigration group that has grown more shrill in recent years. AICF's web site suggests that immigrants have "sown the seeds of ethnic strife in America" and that large-scale immigration into America, especially Third World immigration, is "a policy rooted in humanistic pride and the worship of Mammon [a Biblical reference to anti-Christian materialism]."

AICF has been headed by John Vinson since 1990. In the mid-1990s, Sam Francis, who was fired from the conservative Washington Times after penning a racially inflammatory column, was AICF chairman.

Today, Francis is editor of the racist Council of Conservative Citizens' (CCC) monthly tabloid, Citizens Informer. Vinson, who is also editor of the anti-immigration publication Border Watch, often speaks at CCC meetings and is a founding member of the white supremacist League of the South. [Media Matters, 5/18/10; SPLC, accessed 8/5/11]

Fox Has Repeatedly Hosted Pam Geller, Subject Of SPLC "Hatewatch" Post. Fox News has repeatedly hosted anti-Islam blogger Pamela Geller, even after she was the subject of an August 25, 2010, "Hatewatch" post by SPLC titled, "White Supremacists Find Common Cause With Pam Geller's Anti-Islam Campaign." From the SPLC's description of Geller:

Pamela Geller is the anti-Muslim movement's most visible and flamboyant figurehead. She's relentlessly shrill and coarse in her broad-brush denunciations of Islam and makes preposterous claims, such as that President Obama is the "love child" of Malcolm X. She makes no pretense of being learned in Islamic studies, leaving the argumentative heavy lifting to her Stop Islamization of America partner Robert Spencer. Geller has mingled comfortably with European racists and fascists, spoken favorably of South African racists, defended Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic and denied the existence of Serbian concentration camps. She has taken a strong pro-Israel stance to the point of being sharply critical of Jewish liberals. [SPLC, 8/25/10; SPLC, accessed 8/5/11; Media Matters, 7/25/11]

Fox Hosted Head Of Anti-Gay Hate Group Family Research Council To Attack Gender Diversity Education. On the May 26 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom, co-host Martha MacCallum hosted Family Research Council president Tony Perkins to attack a school in California that was teaching a gender diversity class. The Family Research Council has been labeled by the SPLC as an anti-gay hate group. From the SPLC:

The Family Research Council (FRC) bills itself as "the leading voice for the family in our nation's halls of power," but its real specialty is defaming gays and lesbians. The FRC often makes false claims about the LGBT community based on discredited research and junk science. The intention is to denigrate LGBT people in its battles against same-sex marriage, hate crimes laws, anti-bullying programs and the repeal of the military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.

To make the case that the LGBT community is a threat to American society, FRC employs a number of "policy experts" whose "research" has allowed FRC to be extremely active politically in shaping public debate. Its research fellows and leaders often testify before Congress and appear in the mainstream media. It also works at the grassroots level, conducting outreach to pastors in an effort to "transform the culture."  [SPLC, accessed 8/5/11; Fox News, America's Newsroom, 5/26/11, via Equality Matters]

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    • Author by nerzog (August 08, 2011 11:11 am ET)
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      With the Teabaggers representing their crowning achievement in this arena. They've managed to put a hate group in charge of Congress.
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (August 08, 2011 7:14 pm ET)
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        They've managed to put a hate group in charge of Congress.

        And yet, they are still a small minority of the American people.
        Funny how their agenda seems to tie in so closely with the corporate agenda of fewer regulations and lower taxes.
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      • Author by wesley_fpt (August 08, 2011 9:57 pm ET)
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        I've always thought that one of the main reasons that it's so important to keep Republicans from power is their ties to hate groups. With Fox promoting so many hate group members, I'm comfortable calling them a hate group as well.
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    • Author by cst (August 08, 2011 11:36 am ET)
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      "Badge of Honor"? So she's PROUD of being lumped in with the KKK and Aryan Nations?
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      • Author by phlcstgan (August 08, 2011 11:44 am ET)
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        Yep. If you upset The Libs, it's more important to these people than anything else. That's why they're rooting for their country's economic ruin. (And let's not pretend these people have any substantial policy disagreements with the KKK anyway.)
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    • Author by CAL (August 08, 2011 11:53 am ET)
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      FOXPAC in and of itself functions as a hate group. Save for the wealthy and corporate interests, FOXPAC dispenses bigotry and hatred toward anyone or anything that doesn't fit their agenda. Today's nutjob Repub Party thinks they have a safe haven and loyal ally in FOXPAC. What they are too dumb to realize is that FOXPAC owns them, and uses them as a convenient instrument to push their sick agenda.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 08, 2011 12:12 pm ET)
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      Got biggotry?

      ---------------------------------------
      IMHO
      UTOPIA
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    • Author by FNC Liberal (August 08, 2011 12:34 pm ET)
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      The Fox News senior executives, senior producers, and producers know who watches this network, and they cater to those type of viewers. The image of the blonde female host/anchor/contributor is part of the package.

      There's more to this story, and I ask that Media Matters dig into the discrimination lawsuits filed by former employees in New York. If you want to find hate, it's all in the lawsuits.
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      • Author by pacifist (August 08, 2011 4:04 pm ET)
           
        If I remember correctly, there were a number of sexual harassment lawsuits filed against FOX NEWS.
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    • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 12:48 pm ET)
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      Either go along with the liberal, politically-correct movement or get labeled a hate group.

      Either ignore your religious teaching about morale behavior or get labeled a hate group.



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      • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 12:51 pm ET)
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        MIddle

        You are so brainwashed it is a sad sight to see. The whole politically correct thing is so pitifully weak propaganda that any rational human would be ashamed of themselves that they were STUPID enough to buy into it. It is an EXCUSE by racists and misogynists as to why they ought to not only have the RIGHT to be openly racist and misogynist but they shouldnt be CALLED on being racits and misogynist. It is jerks snivelling that socity no longer sees their racism and hate speech acceptable. You are a useful idiot that you go along with it
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        • Author by RandyB (August 08, 2011 2:29 pm ET)
             
          "Politically Correct" is now primarily used by hateful individuals and groups to describe people who believe we should treat others with dignity and respect
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      • Author by phlcstgan (August 08, 2011 1:03 pm ET)
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        Most religions teach that it's not "morale" to actively lie, and it's these groups' willingness to just make sh!t up about LGBT people that led to their designation. No one is on that list just for thinking homosexuality is wrong.
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      • Author by raddave43 (August 08, 2011 1:12 pm ET)
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        Either stop preaching hatred ot get labeled a hate group.
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        • Author by pacifist (August 08, 2011 4:11 pm ET)
             
          Actually, its more along the lines of stop promoting known falsehoods as anti-gay propaganda over and over and over again and you won't be labeled as a hate group.
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      • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:33 pm ET)
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        Middle

        Also no one is expected to IGNORE their religious teachings. You should follow what your religious teachings say about moral behavior. You should NOT demand your neighbor does outside that which harms another. That is another of your ignorant strawman arguments. However you are NOT supposed to expect to make YOUR religious morality into LAW. I think stupid people shouldnt vote but I am not trying to make it a LAW. When you decide to demand EVERYONE follow your religious teachings about what is moral THAT is where the problem starts.
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        • Author by ToTheRight1965 (August 10, 2011 10:55 pm ET)
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          Damn! I am actually agreeing with you on this one. What's the world coming to...
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      • Author by highlyunlikely (August 08, 2011 2:25 pm ET)
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        ah, boulder, didn't all that schooling on simple-think and the Theater of the Obvious teach you anything over the weekend? Did that week you took off lead to no reexamination of your ideas and approaches at all? Is the problem that you actually ARE an adolescent, perhaps entering puberty? Which would explain sounding exactly like one, while the rare times you do post something thoughtful would make you a child prodigy. Now, that's a brain-twisting notion.
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      • Author by bintx (August 08, 2011 4:45 pm ET)
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        Actually, that's not the criteria for being labeled a hate group.

        Further, I'm a Christian who attended both the very conservative, independent church of Christ and is now a member of a Southern Baptist Church. There is nothing in the Bible which supports the hatred that these folks exhibit. Christ didn't hate and He didn't lie . . . these folks do both.

        Judaism does not teach hatred or lying, either. Pam Geller loves to scream anti-Semitism while practicing it herself. Arabic speaking people are Semitic, just as are Hebrew speaking people.
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (August 08, 2011 6:26 pm ET)
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        Either go along with the liberal, politically-correct movement or get labeled a hate group.

        Either ignore your religious teaching about morale behavior or get labeled a hate group.


        Ohh! A Two-fer!

        A great demonstration of simplistic binary thinking, and victimization mentality.

        Well of course they aren't bigots, they discriminate against people YOU don't like, MiddleAmerica.
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      • Author by mari2jj (August 09, 2011 4:10 am ET)
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        And what in the world is morale behavior. If you are not depressed, your morale will be just fine. If you mean moral, that is entirely a different subject.
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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 10, 2011 12:05 am ET)
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        Either go along with the liberal, politically-correct movement or get labeled a hate group. Either ignore your religious teaching about morale behavior or get labeled a hate group

        YOUR religious teaching...... THAT is the freaking point!

        YOU nor ANYONE in the Republican Tea Party CANNOT and SHOULD NOT try to teach morality, it's NOT your place and it's NOT your job!

        WHO would consider a morality lessons from Newt Gingrich or Mark Stanford, or Bob Barr?

        WHO would consider a morality lessons from Mark Foley or Larry Craig?

        WHO would consider a morality lessons from Duke Cunningham, or Bob Ney or Douglas Feith?

        WHO would consider a morality lessons from Joe Walsh?

        WHO would consider a morality lessons from George Bush or Dick Cheney or Phyllis Schlafly?

        The Republican Tea Party loves to run around and cry about the unborn, but want to cut ANY aid given to children in need. The Republican Tea party loves to run around and preach marriage between a man and a woman but CANNOT stay out of the men's room or gay bars. The Republican Tea Party loves to run around and preach about the sanctity of marriage but CANNOT seem to leave every other woman BUT their wife alone.

        The Republican Tea Party are bunch of hypocrites, the do as I say, NOT as I do party.

        Here's MY Liberal philosophy.

        We are ALL human and we make mistakes. No one is better than the other because of their race or their financial wealth. We should ALL should have the right to do as we please as long as it harms no other person or is illegal. As long as you're an legal adult, who you CHOOSE to sleep with is YOUR business, whether you CHOOSE to have a child is YOUR business, your religion, if you CHOOSE, is YOUR business and those who are less fortunate SHOULD ALWAYS be helped. And most of all, a divided country fails and a united country stands.

        Pretty simple!
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        • Author by juliajayne1 (August 10, 2011 10:53 am ET)
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          I sure wouldn't consider a morality lesson from Middle America either. His character has been "assignated"! By himself.
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    • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 12:54 pm ET)
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      Many valid points were raised in the above video clip. Rather disputing her claims all I see deflection by character assignation.

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      • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 12:57 pm ET)
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        Middle

        Name three. Meanwhile many vaild points were raised in the article and I didnt notice you addressing them just snivelling that people dont like homophobes, racists and hategroups and say so. It seems ok to you that these groups spew hateful lies and racist, homophobic and misogynist nonsense but you just can STAND that people call THEM hategroups. You are a sad little person
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        • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 1:03 pm ET)
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          No surprise. MA/hoosier seems to like these threads and always in support of hate.
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          • Author by Persia (August 08, 2011 1:07 pm ET)
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            Exactly. Anytime right-wing idiots say anything racist or bigoted MiddleRacist is happy to defend them.
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            • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 1:12 pm ET)
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              I never defended any racist comments - you're so foucused on the messenger you missed the message - watch the above video clip again.
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              • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:14 pm ET)
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                Middle

                No you just defended groups that MAKE racist comments, or homophobic comments or well you just defended hategroups
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              • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 1:18 pm ET)
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                I never commented on TVC.
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                • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:23 pm ET)
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                  Middle

                  Your weak attempt at an argument was a silly talking point that was created to be a blanket defense for racists, homophobes and hategroups
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                • Author by phlcstgan (August 08, 2011 1:25 pm ET)
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                  Of COURSE you didn't, because you're never on-topic.
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              • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 1:23 pm ET)
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                You are a liar . You defended Bill Bennetts comments about lowering the crime rate if all black babies could be aborted.
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              • Author by Johaely (August 08, 2011 1:41 pm ET)
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                Nah, you just underplay them.
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          • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 1:09 pm ET)
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            I like & respond to most ALL threads. But when someone cries racism ... wait for it, wait for it ... Congo throws in his ignorant comment.

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            • Author by phlcstgan (August 08, 2011 1:11 pm ET)
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              Again, lad, you really don't want to be calling other people ignorant after your defense of Spider-Man's all-important whiteness.
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            • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:12 pm ET)
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              Middle

              You post something mind bogglingly stupid in most threads and pretend it is a response. As it is you DEFINE ignorant
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            • Author by sambo (August 08, 2011 1:22 pm ET)
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              MA.... Be very careful when you are talking about ignorance
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              • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:24 pm ET)
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                sambo

                Well I have to admit that based on his life as, well him, it should be his area of expertise
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              • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 1:29 pm ET)
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                Sambo? Isn't Sambo on the list of non-PC words? Ha ha ha ha

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                • Author by phlcstgan (August 08, 2011 1:34 pm ET)
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                  Isn't irony on the list of concepts MA doesn't understand? Ha ha ha ha
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                • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:36 pm ET)
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                  Middle

                  WOW you really are dense arent you. Look up satire in the dictionary, follow that up with irony since you called OTHER people ignorant, then have the decency to show the proper amount of SHAME when you finally have an epiphany. Of course that is assuming you have the intellectual capacity to understand...well pretty much anything
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                • Author by highlyunlikely (August 08, 2011 2:27 pm ET)
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                  in this comment, boulder recycles the infantile rant. If he's going to be accused of being one anyway, might as well play it to the hilt.
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            • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 1:26 pm ET)
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              Again MA/hoosier I usually find you there first defending the indefensible.. Oh and how unusual an Afro-American man commenting on racism and bigotry. Gee why would I have any reason?
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                • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 1:36 pm ET)
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                  "Oh you coloreds have it so good here in America!" is the tone that I get from your comment. Firstly, until you have been on the business end of a system designed to see you fail, where every negative stereotype is undeservingly levied against you, be quiet.

                  For all your "your generation has received better treatment" talk (which is extremely condescending), I am sure that you wouldn't want to wake up tomorrow as a black man/woman.

                  Life must be really easy when everything is set up to see you succeed and all you have to do live up to your potential.
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                  • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 1:39 pm ET)
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                    Yea,we got the sweet watermelon and the buckwheat cake,don't have to run through the jungles and scuff up our feet. Yes you sure treats us nice boss.
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                    • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:42 pm ET)
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                      The sad thing is Middle is either too stupid to see how condescending and ignorant that statement was or so petty he made it KNOWING just to be a jerk. Either way it makes him a loser
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                    • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 3:17 pm ET)
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                      Thank ya massa for bringin us out the jungles to jesus. We sure is happy workin for ya massa!
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                      • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 3:37 pm ET)
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                        You're welcome.
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                        • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 3:42 pm ET)
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                          MiddleMoron

                          YOU'RE petty and disgusting
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                        • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 3:43 pm ET)
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                          And you wonder why people dont take you seriously, and when they do it is with contempt.

                          Also, if you have time for snide remarks, im sure you have time to answer my questions.
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                        • Author by highlyunlikely (August 08, 2011 4:35 pm ET)
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                          all right. Here's the indicator that it's just a matter of time before boulder goes over the edge into justified banning. Then we can look forward to his eventual return as an even more obvious version of his previous 2 (at least) identities. How he must hate himself to crave negative attention so badly.
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                    • Author by CoolSlaw (August 08, 2011 6:43 pm ET)
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                      Yea,we got the sweet watermelon and the buckwheat cake,don't have to run through the jungles and scuff up our feet. Yes you sure treats us nice boss.


                      While your response was stinging and funny, I'd like to point something else out.

                      It's sad that so many people still see race as an "us vs them" mentality. Yes, people of all races can have this mentality, but it's most dangerous when latched onto by those who are in the majority.

                      It's pretty obvious for people of a minority race when systematic discrimination hits them. It's a lot harder to recognize "white privilege" and other benefits of being in the majority if there is a large and vocal element preaching victimization and fear to describe what really amounts to a challenging of the status quo.

                      Unless of course these people really do believe they are superior because of race, theologically determined, or feel people of other races are inherently flawed. I suspect quite a few of the most vocal elements of some of these groups do fit into these categories. (you will note I said some, not all)

                      On the topic of sexual orientation, when are the so-called libertarians in the right wing tent going to step up and tell these people to get out of our bedrooms?
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                    • Author by MiniTru (August 09, 2011 11:45 am ET)
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                      Yea,we got the sweet watermelon and the buckwheat cake,don't have to run through the jungles and scuff up our feet.
                      "Sail Away", one of Randy Newman's best satirical songs.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 1:36 pm ET)
                  10 1
                  Yea so just go shut up and sit in the corner and forget that there is still racism and bigotry. No I won't!
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                  • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 1:39 pm ET)
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                    Racism exists and shouldn't be ignored - but the constant crying of wolf diminishes the attention given to real instances of racism.

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                    • Author by Johaely (August 08, 2011 1:42 pm ET)
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                      Then i suggest you stop doing so.
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                    • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:43 pm ET)
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                      Middle

                      And the constant excuses FOR racism, like pretending REAL racism is crying wolf, gives aid and comfort to racists. THAT seems to be your goal
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                    • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 1:44 pm ET)
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                      I'll leave it up to you to decide when it is appropiate.
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                    • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 2:13 pm ET)
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                      Constant crying of wolf? I will agree...

                      But only because there are lots of wolves.
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                      • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 2:32 pm ET)
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                        Does Faux know it's audience are what? All these blacks and gays complaining. What is the world coming too?
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                • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:37 pm ET)
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                  Middle

                  GOD but you are stupid. You really think that is you just SAY something, no matter how stupid, it will magically become true dont you?
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                • Author by phlcstgan (August 08, 2011 1:37 pm ET)
                  11 1
                  White privilege powers... activate! Form of... a moran!
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                  • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 1:42 pm ET)
                    11 1
                    Could I have provided any better proof than MA/hoosiers own words? The mentality of the tea-bagger on display thanks to MA.
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                • Author by Persia (August 08, 2011 1:46 pm ET)
                  14 1
                  Better treatment compared to what? So when my husband and I were at the mall with our beautiful baby girl and a stupid person called her a baby coon that is better treatment?
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                  • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 1:51 pm ET)
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                    I said better not perfect or always appropriate treatment. That's horrible someone would say that about an innocent child. I know racsim exist but have never personally met anyone who would defend such behavior.
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                    • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 1:54 pm ET)
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                      So is she trivializing racism by bringing it up?
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                      • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 2:00 pm ET)
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                        No, clearly that was a racist comment directed to her baby - calling Bennett a racist is crying wolf.
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                        • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 2:04 pm ET)
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                          Never called Bennett a racist but his comment was as was your defense. You got your nerve. You haven't given us anything we haven't fought for and this country and it's economic success is owed to the suffering the the African slave.
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                          • Author by Johaely (August 08, 2011 2:16 pm ET)
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                            Middle is of those people that unless you call a black person a n....r or anything on that ball park, its racist.
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                          • Author by Johaely (August 08, 2011 2:16 pm ET)
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                            *it's not racist.
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                          • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 3:34 pm ET)
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                            The slaves suffered, you were not a slave, get over it.
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                            • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 3:44 pm ET)
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                              MiddleMORON

                              The slaves suffered, you were not a slave, get over it


                              So blacks havent suffered any injustice since slavery? GOD but you are stupid. You need to come to grips with the FACT you are venal and ignorant
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                            • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 3:50 pm ET)
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                              Let me explain something to you. You have not given me or my people anything we haven't worked or fought for. You racist POS who the F**K do you think you are?
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                            • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 4:01 pm ET)
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                              I guess your history books read something like this:

                              "Slavery was bad, but they at least had the advantage of 2 parent households and christianity. After we politely agreed to end slavery, everyone became equal and had the same social standing and nobody was discriminated against ever again."

                              To use that "you were not a slave, get over it" argument speaks volumes to your ignorance about race in America and how it permeates everything that we do. While most people are decent human beings and strive to avoid allowing a person's skin color to determine the way that they are treated, some people are simply too ignorant to realize that bigotry hurts America.

                              Sadly, it seems like you are one of them.
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                            • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 4:01 pm ET)
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                              Oh and the slaves did more than suffer they laid the basis by there unpaid for backbreaking forced labor, for the accumulation of capital that led to the growth of capitalism here and around the world. In others words they gave your racist POS arse the opportunity for success.
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                            • Author by highlyunlikely (August 08, 2011 4:31 pm ET)
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                              boulder's actually getting worse. The simplistic garbage is even less substantive than it used to be.
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                          • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 3:35 pm ET)
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                            The country has given you the opportunity for success.
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                            • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 3:52 pm ET)
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                              F**k you and the horse you rode in on. This country hasn't given me or my people anything that we haven't fought for or worked for you condescending POS.
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                              • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 10, 2011 12:11 am ET)
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                                F**k you and the horse you rode in on. This country hasn't given me or my people anything that we haven't fought for or worked for you condescending POS.

                                BRAVO Congero, BRAVO!!!!!
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                            • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 3:56 pm ET)
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                              Middle

                              The country has GIVEN them nothing. There is a context for success. It would be a much smaller context if you rightwingnuts had your way but also it is a smaller context for blacks in America than other ethnic groups. That you keep pretending that racism went away when slavery ended and blacks have no legitimate gripes is pitiful. That you give succor to racists and homophobes shows you have no decency
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                              • Author by juliajayne1 (August 08, 2011 4:36 pm ET)
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                                Can you even believe he just said that? Wow. Slaves built this country and gave white land owners their wealth. What'd they (eventually) get in return? 40 acres and a mule, right? That sounds great (sic), except when the land was returned to whites after President Lincoln was assassinated. Or assignated if you're using MA's wilfully ignorant misspelling of which he's SO proud that he continues using it.

                                'K, this guy is missing something besides a brain. Yowsa!
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                            • Author by highlyunlikely (August 08, 2011 4:29 pm ET)
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                              oh stop already, boulder. Are you a stale fortune cookie? What little self-regard you must have, posting meaningless tripe like that.
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                            • Author by yoiksaway (August 11, 2011 2:21 am ET)
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                              I think it would be grand to have MiddleAmerica intern for the Southern Poverty Law Center for a few months.
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                        • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 2:17 pm ET)
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                          To defend racism, one does not need to be a racist - just a coward unwilling to stand for whats right.

                          By not openly and vehemently opposing bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, and intolerance we give it weight. We make it socially acceptable. We give it power to continue.

                          And that is why we have a problem with Fox. When they aren't being openly offensive, they are being subtle and condoning the behavior. And by defending their actions, you condone it too.
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                        • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 2:47 pm ET)
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                          Middle

                          You are sad. Calling Bennets statement racist is NOT crying wolf it is pointing out REAL racism. You are and were defending it. Then again as we know Bennet is what he is, and you are what you are. Such is life
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                        • Author by CoolSlaw (August 08, 2011 6:50 pm ET)
                          11 1
                          calling Bennett a racist is crying wolf.


                          Dude...Bennett's statement was so freaking racist. I really hate to bring Hitler into discussions, but that was the type of statement the third Reich would make regarding Jews, Gypsies and other "undesirables".

                          Get a clue. Please.
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                    • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:55 pm ET)
                      10 1
                      Middle

                      You are a LIAR. That is not what you said THIS

                      Your generation has received better treatment from this great country than any in the world


                      is what you said and they are not the same thing. Better than it WAS is not better than any in the world.
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                    • Author by Persia (August 08, 2011 2:01 pm ET)
                      13 1
                      Unfortunately I have met many racist people. My husband no longer speaks to one of his cousins because he called me a n*gger to my face. I deal with racism all the time because I am married to a white man. Some people really don't like that.

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                      • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 2:07 pm ET)
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                        MA will decide for us when it is appropiate and what will be accepted as racism. Mighty white of him.
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                      • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 2:08 pm ET)
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                        Persia

                        I am so sorry this ever happened to you. I lived in Louisiana for almost a year about 15 years ago and saw that kind of racism. It was actually fairly common. It embarasses me that we have, as Americans, still not grown past that
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                        • Author by Persia (August 08, 2011 2:29 pm ET)
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                          Thanks Kabniel.

                          It doesn't bother me as much as it did when my husband and I first got married. Now I feel a little sorry for people who are so full of hate. They must have miserable lives.

                          I finally have everything I always wanted. I was fortunate enough to marry the love of my life. Few things are as good as the love of a good man. Plus I have a beautiful baby girl. Life is good for me.

                          I just wish hateful people would stop hating.
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                    • Author by Imbecile (August 08, 2011 2:08 pm ET)
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                      You defend it, MiddleAmerica, when you repeat racist code phrases like, "your generation gets better treatment..." And you should really read what you actually typed up there, because it's not what you're trying to pass off now.
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                • Author by highlyunlikely (August 08, 2011 2:28 pm ET)
                  9 1
                  boulder: HUH? non-sequiturs are particularly lame, even of you.
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                • Author by bintx (August 08, 2011 4:49 pm ET)
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                  You just scrapped the bottom of the barrel with that stupid comments. Good lord, you're not only a jerk, but you're a stupid jerk.
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                • Author by bilbo_dies (August 08, 2011 7:54 pm ET)
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                  Yea, why would you have a reason? Your generation has received better treatment from this great country than any in the world.

                  Please tell me that you are a really bad performance artist, or just a crazy racist out to stir up hatred with your comments.

                  Either way, you are an idiot and should be banned for comments like that.
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                  • Author by highlyunlikely (August 08, 2011 8:14 pm ET)
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                    with any luck, boulder is working on it. Whether consciously or unconsciously, it's pretty much his intent to commit suicide by obscenity.
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                • Author by yoiksaway (August 11, 2011 2:24 am ET)
                  1  
                  Again, I think it would be grand to have MiddleAmerica intern for the Southern Poverty Law Center for a few months.
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      • Author by phlcstgan (August 08, 2011 1:07 pm ET)
        14  
        You'll have to excuse me if I don't trust someone who claimed Spider-Man was the white equivalent of Martin Luther King as the arbiter of "valid points".
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (August 08, 2011 7:00 pm ET)
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          Sorry to nerd up the thread, but according to Marvel's writers and President Stan Lee, Dr. Xavier of the X-Men was supposed to represent a Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. type figure for mutants. Magneto, who fell somewhere between super-villian and righteous crusader depending on the circumstance, was modeled to be more like Malcolm X.

          Spiderman's popularity has always been in creating a believable alter ego that a typical teenage boy could relate to. The X-men comics were full of allegory about race relations in America. Spiderman was not.

          Okay, exit nerd mode.
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      • Author by juliajayne1 (August 08, 2011 1:10 pm ET)
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        Nobody has done any character "assignations". You must read too many romance novels, hehe...

        Now as far as character assassinations, you've managed to do that by apparently agreeing with them. That would mean that I'm equating their character with yous, just to put the dots close together fer ya, feller.

        Oy. Why do you never address the basis of the thread/article? You always reposnd ONLY to how we respond to it and then try "assignating" us, ha!? You love us, bubba? Lol! So politically incorrect!

        Yeesh. You are one piece of work on steroids.
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        • Author by juliajayne1 (August 08, 2011 2:55 pm ET)
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          Like all who reside in "Idiot America", he revels in his ignorance.
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      • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 1:11 pm ET)
        14  
        For the millionth time, its assassination! Figure it out baddie.
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        • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 1:16 pm ET)
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          Still waiting for someone to dispute the specific points raised in the above video clip and stop the character assignation.
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          • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:19 pm ET)
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            Middle

            Still waiting for YOU to name three of those good points you claimed. Still waiting for you to dispute the article. Still waiting for you to grow a brain and bite me with the pettyness of purposely being ignorant and misspelling the word. You are simply pathetic and childish
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            • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 1:25 pm ET)
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              kabneil - I don't respond to your (juvenille, name calling) posts.
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              • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:27 pm ET)
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                Middle

                I couldnt possibly care less what you do. I amuse MYSELF and respond to any posts that allow me to do so. Everyone can see you dont respond to me because you CANT. You got tired of me mopping the floor with your weak and petty attempts at arguments
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              • Author by congero6189599 (August 08, 2011 1:28 pm ET)
                12  
                What points were those MA? You were asked this before.
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              • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 1:33 pm ET)
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                Will you respond to mine, or is your excuse machine just getting warmed up?
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                • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 1:42 pm ET)
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                  Sure. Did you ask me a question?

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                  • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:57 pm ET)
                    12 1
                    Why dont you cough up those examples of good points. Unless of course they exist only in your head.
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                  • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 2:12 pm ET)
                    10 1
                    1. What points do they make? Please be specific so that I can dismantle them.

                    2. Do you really not see the hate speech rampant on Fox?
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                    • Author by raddave43 (August 08, 2011 2:16 pm ET)
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                      Something about giving money to "Red China."
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                    • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 3:23 pm ET)
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                      badtime

                      Apparantly middle HAS no examples. After multiple requests to support his worthless claim his inability or unwillingness to do so shows the paucity of his original claim. Simply put he HAS no argument thus no examples
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                    • Author by MiddleAmerica (August 08, 2011 3:30 pm ET)
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                      1. NIH gave $90M to China.

                      2. Irrelevant to item #1

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                      • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 3:47 pm ET)
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                        MiddleMoron

                        1 You said MANY, one is not many

                        2 The NIH giving China money, for what I assume is medical research is a reason for hatespeech or a defense for hategroups in WHAT WAY?
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                      • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 4:12 pm ET)
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                        If thats all you have, then I am saddened. I was expecting a greater mental exercise. Oh well. If you cannot feast, you must settle for scraps.

                        1. You getting up in arms over a 90M grant to China is a bit ridiculous, especially considering all the money they have loaned us over the past decade for causes far less worth than medical research.

                        2. It has no relation to item 1 but it does have a relation to this post. Please answer the question.
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                        • Author by juliajayne1 (August 08, 2011 5:09 pm ET)
                          9 1
                          Wow, that was anti-climactic! Here we are waiting for a the sage who professes supposedly self evident wisdom in this video clip, and he has bupkis.

                          Not surprising, but a tad disappointing, ha! Lol!
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              • Author by raddave43 (August 08, 2011 2:05 pm ET)
                8 1
                You just replied.
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                • Author by highlyunlikely (August 08, 2011 2:31 pm ET)
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                  oops, you said it first. Again I hit reply before reading your comment.
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              • Author by highlyunlikely (August 08, 2011 2:31 pm ET)
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                boulder: that's exactly what you did - respond. If you're not going to respond, DON't respond. Oh, wait, to whom am I talking?
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          • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 1:21 pm ET)
            11 1
            The "points" they make are bogus - you just refuse to acknowledge it because the dog-whistles of "red china" and "its rape!" automatically turn off your brain. Its okay - i used to be scared of fictional things like the boogeyman too.

            Worse, you put on your blinders to the hate speech because, after all, its stuff you just happen to agree with. Sure, you can hide behind your religion or your "values" you are a xenophobic bigot.

            Also, its assassination. You're still a baddie, even after having it spelled out for you.
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          • Author by bintx (August 08, 2011 4:50 pm ET)
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            Have you named those specific valid points?
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      • Author by pacifist (August 08, 2011 4:22 pm ET)
           
        I agree with you if you are talking about the sexual exploitation of Chinese women and young girls.
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      • Author by bintx (August 08, 2011 4:46 pm ET)
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        And what character are you suggesting is being assigned to this person?
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    • Author by dsevil (August 08, 2011 12:59 pm ET)
         
      > Fox & Friends Hosted President Of FAIR, Which SPLC Designated An
      > Anti-Immigrant Hate Group.

      Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting? That's like the ultimate in irony here.

      > Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR)

      Oh.
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    • Author by case1000 (August 08, 2011 1:05 pm ET)
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      I find it interesting the Dems now use the so called TEA party as the problems for the country.
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      • Author by phlcstgan (August 08, 2011 1:08 pm ET)
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        I find it interesting trying to figure out what the hell you're saying.
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      • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 1:12 pm ET)
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        Was that a sentence, if so, was it even remotely on topic?
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        • Author by kabniel (August 08, 2011 1:16 pm ET)
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          Frankly I am not sure. I guess it would depend on what his mysterious point was. Did he mean that the TEA party is a hategroup? That somehow Dems use them for...Nah he had a brainfart
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      • Author by heehee..santorum (August 08, 2011 1:14 pm ET)
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        I would find it amazing if a Tea Bagger could find his ass with both hands.
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        • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 1:22 pm ET)
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          They cant, but they dont want your help to do it - because thats socialism!
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      • Author by bintx (August 08, 2011 4:48 pm ET)
        8 2
        I'm not a "Dem" or a "Repub." I'm a conservative independent and I find the phony tea party to be a major problem for the country today. So did S&P. They're the stated reason for the downgrade of our credit rating. Are you telling me that S&P is "Dem"?
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    • Author by OutMilitary (August 08, 2011 1:15 pm ET)
         
      [http://maineguide.com/images/outmil_logo2.jpg]

      Thank you for this story. FYI – OutMilitary.com is now featuring in-depth interviews with gay active duty servicemen and women… This week features “T.J.” a bi-sexual man serving in the U.S Air Force in Turkey.
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    • Author by ONOMATOPOEIA (August 08, 2011 2:12 pm ET)
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      Hate sells these days. Fox knows what their demographic likes.
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    • Author by ernie1241 (August 08, 2011 2:15 pm ET)
      7  
      Beck and Eustace Mullins:

      For a background report on the life-long neo-nazi and anti-semitic associations and beliefs of Eustace Mullins see:

      http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/mullins



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    • Author by draftedin68 (August 08, 2011 3:54 pm ET)
      5 2

      The bottom line for Roger Ailes when he's looking for someone to fill a position at FOX NEWS:

      Only factfromassing hatemongers need apply.

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    • Author by edrossinoelwein9669 (August 08, 2011 10:46 pm ET)
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      The SPLC is a hate group. Research indicates that homosexual behavior shortens the lifespan of its practitioners by between 20-30 years. To suppress that truth (by cheerleading for homosexual behavior) for the sake of some sick political agenda is hate. That's what the left does - suppresses the truth to the destruction of individuals. As in all things leftist, death is the result of the policies of hate they espouse. Homosexuals are being used by the statists to advance their ideology. It has nothing to do with freedom or civil rights, but is merely an excuse to tear apart the structure of Western Civilization so that it can be more easily replaced by a statist utopia.
      By the way, the effort is doomed to failure.
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      • Author by Johaely (August 08, 2011 11:18 pm ET)
        7  
        You should take your meds. You are going off the crazy lane.
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      • Author by highlyunlikely (August 08, 2011 11:34 pm ET)
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        This is called "flipping," reversing the original declaration.Because the SPLC specializes in tracking and labeling hate groups, ed here attempts to use that designation against the organization itself. As you can see, it fails spectacularly when left to amateurs.
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      • Author by mjlilgui (August 09, 2011 1:01 am ET)
        8  
        How is homosexual lifespan shortened directly because of their sexual preference? Do you have any numbers to back this up, and do they reflect what you're claiming?
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        • Author by NotSure8 (August 09, 2011 1:23 pm ET)
             
          And I would want any statistical evaluation to be adjusted to account for the deaths of victims of hate crimes.
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        • Author by yoiksaway (August 11, 2011 2:09 am ET)
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          edrossinoelwein9669 cited "Research." There you have it, case closed, end of story.
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      • Author by kabniel (August 09, 2011 1:08 am ET)
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        edross

        You are a LIAR. This

        The SPLC is a hate group


        Is a LIE. This


        That's what the left does - suppresses the truth to the destruction of individuals.


        Is a LIE. This

        As in all things leftist, death is the result of the policies of hate they espouse
        .

        Is a LIE. This

        Homosexuals are being used by the statists to advance their ideology. It has nothing to do with freedom or civil rights, but is merely an excuse to tear apart the structure of Western Civilization so that it can be more easily replaced by a statist utopia
        .

        Is a LIE. Pretty much every word of your post is a LIE.

        YOU are a LIAR. A pathetic, brainwashed and very stupid LIAR.
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      • Author by raddave43 (August 09, 2011 5:38 pm ET)
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        SPLC is a hate group for labeling hate groups as such? Where is this "research" that you cite? Homosexuality is NOT a behavior.
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      • Author by MiniTru (August 10, 2011 10:15 am ET)
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        As in all things leftist, death is the result of the policies of hate they espouse.
        You know, death is pretty much the end result of everything.
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    • Author by iamwatchingyou (August 09, 2011 8:44 am ET)
         
      First and foremost why is there irrefutable credibility for the SPLC? That really is error number one. Second, the LGBT community (if in fact they are a community) has in affect tried to force a life-style that is at the very least not essentially supported by a majority of people but tolerated by a fair number of people into a constant dose of shame because of substantive disagreement.

      I do not have a disdain for someone sexual orientation but I have a substantial issue when those who live this life style have an expectation that I (or society) should accept it as normal behavior. The real question that should be asked is does society like people based on their sexual orientation or how they conduct themselves in society. Why do we even need to acknowledge sexual orientation? Where is the compromise for the LGBT community? Does the LGBT community speak with one voice? Are all LGBT persons in agreement on what constitutes equality?

      I think that Fox News provides information for everyone to sound off on. It would be refreshing to see the same occur on the other cable and net work programing (but of course) that might have a positive effect on their ratings.
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    • Author by Karl Stalin (August 10, 2011 8:19 am ET)
         
      Class warfare results from creating antagonism between poor and rich by abstracting oneself from fundamental facts. There are no fundamental facts on this web site. A lot of propaganda but no fundamental facts.
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    • Author by ilovedoughnuts (August 10, 2011 5:28 pm ET)
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      Of course, if the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) says an organization is a "hate-group" then it's gotta be true. Opinions are ALWAYS facts to leftists.
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      {LGBT activists] desecrated a cemetery where Samuel Adams and other Revolutionary War heroes are buried.

      Not one word in the 140 posts on this thread about this HATEFULL behavior by LGBT.
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      Question: Is sodomy against the law? Just wondering.
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      • Author by highlyunlikely (August 10, 2011 5:46 pm ET)
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        in which ild figures the coast is clear, so why not get in the last word? After all, no one's gonna notice.
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      • Author by datruthfarmer (August 11, 2011 4:53 am ET)
           

        Question: Is sodomy against the law? Just wondering.

        It would seem that the answer is no.

        Why do you ignore the complexity of the human mind and body?


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    • Author by tman418 (August 10, 2011 8:28 pm ET)
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      Why is it that homophobes can't differentiate between homosexuals (people who are sexually oriented towards the same sex) and pedophiles (people sexually oriented to children)?
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    • Author by yoiksaway (August 11, 2011 2:49 am ET)
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      What the heck was that, an "interview"?

      Lafferty pretends she's a nationalist concerning the NIH funding something in "Red China," what with all those private companies exporting their labor there that she doesn't complain about, while she has who-knows-how many items made in China in her home. And who the heck uses "Red China" anymore?

      Their explanations of the money spent are worthless--I learned nothing. But MiddleAmerica, sensitive to character assignation, claims they made valid points. How can points be valid when there weren't any points made?
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    • Author by ToTheRight1965 (August 11, 2011 8:55 am ET)
         
      I am going to tread carefully on this one. First off, the assertion by MiddleAmerica that getting past slavery meant racism against African Americans went away is way wrong. You can't ignore the sad history during the early decades of the twentieth century that eventually culiminated in the civil rights movement. That statement completely ignores segregationist policies and all of the pain and suffering those caused. The bravery of those who finally stood up against segregation, at great personal peril, was incredible.

      But, it wasn't too long ago when James Byrd was dragged to his death behind a pickup truck in Texas. I won't discuss the gruesome details of that poor man's slow death. The perpetrators are on death row, so they will eventually answer to a higher authority for their crime. This heinous act is proof that there are still those in society who are virulently racist and willing to demonstrate their hatred with terrible crimes.

      All that said, African Americans have made tremendous strides during the past few decades in the academic, political, business and entertainment arenas. I remember a news story that discussed the refusal of a French luxury goods store (Hermes?) to open the doors for Oprah Winfrey and her entourage after hours. I recall Oprah discussing the fact that this was racist. When a billionaire African American gets turned away from a luxury goods store, I call that progress (and typical French rudeness ; )

      As a minority (Hispanic) I have heard my father complain many times that he was discriminated against during his career. I personally have not felt any sort of racial discrimination during my own, although I have experienced the raised eyebrows when I speak with a thick accent, misspellings of my name, ignorance about my origins (Puerto Rican), etc, etc. But I think those things are due more to ignorance rather than outright racism.

      My feeling on corporate America is companies feel compelled to promote token minorities from time to time just so they can demonstrate their tolerance and lack of racial bias. However, the fact remains minorities are still not well represented in corporate executive positions.

      In defense of MiddleAmerica, I think the point he is trying to make is that a lot of times, people see smoke and instantly assume there's fire. And, I think the Tea Party is getting stained by elements within it that have way more hatred than brains. It is important to remember the Tea Party originated from the desire by concerned Americans about the country's fiscal condition. The ignoramuses who depict Obama as an African witch doctor give the movement a bad name.

      I also think there are a few African Americans who have profited immensely by taking advantage of African American stereotypes to sell their entertainment, be it music or comedy. I find that troubling.

      Anyway...these are my thoughts on race, etc. I know some people on this board won't trust what I'm saying and will think I have some kind of ulterior, nefarious motive. That's fine. I just wish to express how I feel about this. Race in America is a complex, highly emotional issue, but I am optimistic that we are making progress.

      And let me be clear: I recognize that people on this board are NOT stating this entire group of people is racist. Kabniel called me on that one (probably not as diplomatically as he could have) but his point was valid.
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