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Right-Wing Media Go On Attack Against Student Debt Relief

October 27, 2011 2:34 am ET — 33 Comments

Fox News and the right-wing media are attacking President Obama's student loan relief plan as a "campaign speech" and an attempt to "buy votes." Obama's plan is designed to help ease the burden of student loans for millions of people by lowering interest rates, consolidating outstanding student loans, and providing debt relief to students after they spend 20 years paying off their loans.

Obama Announces Student Loan Relief Plan

AP: "Obama Announces Help For Student Loan Borrowers." From an October 26 Associated Press article:

President Barack Obama recalled his struggles with student loan debt as he unveiled a plan Wednesday that could give millions of young people some relief on their payments.

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Obama's plan will accelerate a measure passed by Congress that reduces the maximum required payment on student loans from 15 percent of discretionary income annually to 10 percent. He will put it into effect in 2012, instead of 2014. In addition, the White House says the remaining debt would be forgiven after 20 years, instead of 25. About 1.6 million borrowers could be affected.

He will also allow borrowers who have a loan from the Federal Family Education Loan Program and a direct loan from the government to consolidate them into one. The consolidated loan would carry an interest rate of up to a half percentage point less than before. This could affect 5.8 million borrowers.

Student loans are the No. 2 source of household debt. The president's announcement came on the same day as a new report on tuition costs from the College Board. It showed that average in-state tuition and fees at four-year public colleges rose $631 this fall, or 8.3 percent, compared with a year ago. Nationally, the cost of a full credit load has passed $8,000, an all-time high. [Associated Press, 10/26/11, via ABCNews.com]

White House: "Obama Administration To Lower Student Loan Payments For Millions Of Borrowers." In an October 25 press release, the White House outlined the Obama administration's plan to help Americans "manage student loan debt." The press release stated that the plan will "offer recent graduates an opportunity to consolidate loans and reduce interest rates." From the press release:

Today, the Obama Administration announced it is taking steps to increase college affordability by making it easier to manage student loan debt. The announcement is part of a series of executive actions to put Americans back to work and strengthen the economy because we can't wait for Congressional Republicans to act.

The Administration is moving forward with a new "Pay As You Earn" proposal that will reduce monthly payments for more than one and a half million current college students and borrowers.  Starting in 2014, borrowers will be able to reduce their monthly student loan payments to 10 percent of their discretionary income. But President Obama realizes that many students need relief sooner than that.  The new "Pay As You Earn" proposal will allow about 1.6 million students the ability to cap their loan payments at 10 percent starting next year, and the plan will forgive the balance of their debt after 20 years of payments.  Additionally, starting this January an estimated 6 million students and recent college graduates will be able to consolidate their loans and reduce their interest rates. [WhiteHouse.gov, 10/25/11]

Conservatives Attack Student Loan Relief Plan

Guilfoyle: Obama's Student Loan Relief Plan Is "Campaigning, It's Politics .... He Wants To Buy Some Votes Of The Youth." During the October 26 edition of Fox News' The Five, co-host Kimberly Guilfoyle suggested Obama's plan to provide some relief to people with student loans was actually an attempt to "buy some votes of the youth." From Fox News' The Five:

GREG GUTFELD (co-host): Kimberly, I want to ask you, though. The real problem here is tuition. It's not the loans. If the tuitions were lower you wouldn't have this problem with the loans. But because you have the loans, the tuition goes up.  

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE: Right, but where's the incentive then to lower the tuition? Some people in colleges and institutions, they like their money. But what this is about is campaigning, it's politics, it's 2012. He wants to buy some votes of the youth. It makes sense.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

GUILFOYLE: These are the people who were very popular, came out for him, supported his presidency. He needs them again. Even more so this time. So this a way to rally them kind of speak to the people that are protesting and the college students. [Fox News, The Five, 10/26/11]

Bolling: Obama's Plan To Help Americans With Student Loan Debt Is An Attempt To "Buy The Young Vote." During the October 25 edition of The Five, co-host Eric Bolling attacked Obama's plan to help Americans consolidate and lower their payments on student loans after college before it was even announced. Bolling proclaimed the administration was attempting to "buy the young vote" and asserted that it "should be illegal." [Fox News, The Five, 10/25/11

Lou Dobbs Claimed Obama's Plan Offering Relief To Student Loan Recipients Is About "Getting Re-Elected." In an October 26 Facebook post about Obama's new student loan relief plan, Fox's Lou Dobbs wrote, "this is more about getting re-elected than it is spurring economic growth." [Facebook, 10/26/11]   

Perino Called Obama's Announcement Of Student Loan Relief Plan A "Campaign Speech." In an October 26 Twitter post, co-host for Fox News' The Five Dana Perino wrote:

[Twitter, 10/26/11]

Hoft: "Obama's Plan To Bailout Student Loan Recipients Is His Latest Attempt To Buy Votes At The Expense Of The American Taxpayer." From an October 26 blog post on Jim Hoft's Gateway Pundit blog: 

Obama's plan to bailout student loan recipients is his latest attempt to buy votes at the expense of the American taxpayer. It also happens to be the latest move in his Cloward Piven strategy to destroy the US economy.

Free Obama Money for ... special interest groups.

Obama announced a new plan today that will add billions to his record debt and erode the US economy by giving free money to students who borrowed their way through college.[Gateway Pundit, 10/26/11]

Student Loan Debt Is A Growing Burden

Data Shows Average Debt For Students Graduating From College Is Rising At A Staggering Rate. Data analysis by The Project on Student Debt found that the average debt for graduating seniors at public universities is "$22,200 -- 20% higher than in 2004." The average debt for graduating seniors at private for-profit universities was "$33,050 - 23% higher than in 2004." From the January 2010 study titled Quick Facts about Student Debt:

Average debt levels for graduating seniors with student loans rose to $23,200 in 2008 -- a 24% increase from $18,650 in 2004.

In 2008:

• At public universities, average debt was $20,200 -- 20% higher than in 2004, when the average was $16,850.

• At private nonprofit universities, average debt was $27,650 -- 29% higher than in 2004, when the average was $21,500.

• At private for-profit universities, average debt was $33,050 -- 23% higher than in 2004, when the average was $26,850. [The Project On Student Debt, Quick Facts about Student Debt, January 2010]

U.S. Department Of Education: Student Loan Default Rate At 8.8 Percent -- The Highest It Has Been In More Than A Decade. The U.S. Department of Education announced in September that the latest national student loan cohort default rate is at "8.8 percent." This is an increase from the 7.0 percent rate from the previous fiscal year, and is the highest rate in more than a decade. The cohort default rate is defined as "the percentage of borrowers who enter repayment in a fiscal year and default by the end of the next fiscal year." From the announcement:

The U.S. Department of Education today released the official FY 2009 national student loan cohort default rate, which has risen to 8.8 percent, up from 7.0 percent in FY 2008. The cohort default rates increased for all sectors: from 6.0 percent to 7.2 percent for public institutions, from 4.0 percent to 4.6 percent for private institutions, and from 11.6 percent to 15 percent at for-profit schools.

The rates announced today represent a snapshot in time, with the FY 2009 cohort consisting of borrowers whose first loan repayments came due between Oct. 1, 2008, and Sept. 30, 2009, and who defaulted before Sept. 30, 2010. More than 3.6 million borrowers from 5,900 schools entered repayment during this window of time, and more than 320,000 defaulted. Those borrowers who defaulted after the two-year period are not counted as defaulters in this data set. [U.S. Department of Education, 9/12/11, accessed 10/26/11]

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    • Author by galmud (October 27, 2011 3:47 am ET)
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      Translation: Obama stop improving young peoples lives! We can't kick you out of the WH if you keep helping people
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      • Author by m.welker (October 27, 2011 8:12 am ET)
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        What young person would vote conservative?

        Everyone I know that is around the same age (I am 25) either refuses to vote or votes for liberal candidates. There is no need to buy the youth vote; we're young and we don't believe in ridiculous conservative values anyways.
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        • Author by curiousindependent (October 27, 2011 9:19 am ET)
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          At the risk of being labelled "ACORN-like", you need to harangue those who refuse to vote. Push them to join in this great experiment, and have a say.

          Remember, the fewer people who vote, the greater chance the "conservative" has of being elected.
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          • Author by mary59 (October 27, 2011 2:26 pm ET)
               
            I like ACORN, being fairly nutty myself. I also harangue those non-voters. They aren't doing themselves or the country any favors by not voting.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (October 27, 2011 12:03 pm ET)
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          Anyone making under $250,000 a year who votes Republican is either clinically psychotic or functionally retarded. The rest are just greedy.

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          IMHO
          UTOPIA
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        • Author by J.Bodin (October 27, 2011 12:24 pm ET)
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          Anecdotal evidence...I'll share some of my own.

          College graduates searching for jobs in my field of work are less qualified and prepared than ever. There is a running joke that unless a grad comes from a school with a crew team, they aren't even considered. That isn't actually the case, but it illustrates the saturation of the college graduate market with sub-par candidates.

          Even as the cost of college has increased the quality of education seems to be decreasing. With a trillion dollars in outstanding student loans, it seems like we are turning our higher education system into a public education system.

          I suppose higher education suffers the fatal flaw of equality. Greater equality causes diminishing returns on personal excellence.
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          • Author by mary59 (October 27, 2011 5:18 pm ET)
               
            What is your field of work?
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          • Author by bobklahn (October 28, 2011 3:31 am ET)
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            "Even as the cost of college has increased the quality of education seems to be decreasing. With a trillion dollars in outstanding student loans, it seems like we are turning our higher education system into a public education system.

            I suppose higher education suffers the fatal flaw of equality. Greater equality causes diminishing returns on personal excellence."

            The extremely low quality of that commentary ironically enough supports your thesis.
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          • Author by NotSure8 (October 28, 2011 9:43 am ET)
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            I seem to remember Obama pushing for the private sector to get more involved in education programs. Unfortunately that is not going to happen because the private sector doesn't want to make that kind of investment.
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          • Author by CoolSlaw (October 28, 2011 9:56 am ET)
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            Anecdotal evidence


            And nothing more, at all.

            The engineers of our current economic trouble mainly come from schools with "crew teams". Seems our top universities should offer more basic arithmetic and a few business ethics classes.

            I'm a believer in education and personal searches for knowledge and self-enlightenment. Unfortunately, as evidenced by former President George W Bush and many of the Wall Street Elite, big donor and legacy admissions have been more of a "fatal flaw" then greater equality.

            What a laughable argument in this day and age.
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    • Author by grmce (October 27, 2011 5:43 am ET)
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      All part of the Right Whinge "War On Education".
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      • Author by danielsangeo (October 27, 2011 6:06 am ET)
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        "It's not right for a woman to read. Soon she'll start getting ideas...and thinking...."
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (October 27, 2011 6:20 am ET)
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      Kids don't need all that book learnin' anyways. That's why they're so disrespectful to their elders.
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      • Author by curiousindependent (October 27, 2011 8:06 am ET)
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        Not to mention, it makes them expect to be paid a decent wage. How the hell are the poor CEO's supposed to rake in record salaries if they have to pay their minions decently?
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        • Author by danielsangeo (October 27, 2011 8:13 am ET)
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          I remember watching the Ten Commandments with Charleton Heston. I remember vividly the scene in which the hungry Hebrews were barely surviving and then Moses came along and told them that the Temple Granaries were full to the brim. But that they couldn't have any of it and that they had to finish building the city. Some hippie commie pinko socialist wanted to give them the grain and one day in seven to rest. How silly.
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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (October 27, 2011 6:24 am ET)
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      Let me get this straight, FOXPAC exhalts people who get their college degrees yet deride all college teachers as far left zealots trying to indoctrinate their students.

      Now it's clear, FOXPAC sees college as an oppertunity for the banks to put thousands of students every semester in hock for decades.
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      • Author by kamrom (October 27, 2011 6:30 am ET)
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        Maybe...maybe its like japan, where if you do anything astounding and new you are ostracized until you succeed at which point you become a welcomed hero of sorts?

        Only much much less sane? seriously thats the best I can come up with. And its a gigantic reach. Its like "I already pulled all the wire out of the piano to help save you guys, all I have left is kite string and fishing twine!"
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      • Author by curiousindependent (October 27, 2011 8:08 am ET)
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        Wait, what?

        FOX exhalts people with degrees?

        When?

        I mean, aside from the ones who will blindly repeat whatever swill FOX and the rest of the Right Whinge Propaganda Machine is serving up.
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        • Author by ThomasJH268 (October 27, 2011 8:49 am ET)
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          Maybe I should have said FOXPAC exhalts people who go for their degrees.

          Every right wing radio host sings praises of people who are "improving themselves" Of course, once the degree is obtained, it becomes useless in their eyes
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    • Author by sambo (October 27, 2011 7:36 am ET)
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      Other than Corporations and the people that own them,I can't understand why ANYBODY would vote for the Right. Since day one,no matter how good,or how much any proposal would help the economy,the right has opposed it,and done everything in their power to block it. Before the ink is even dry on the proposal,they are busy creating lies,and spinning the proposal til it's hardly recognizable,and I hear simpletons on TV, and in the grocery stores, etc. saying " I WONDER WHY OBAMA ISN'T DOING ANYTHING "... cheeez,give me a break
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    • Author by DennisKQV (October 27, 2011 8:14 am ET)
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      I haven't seen any official math in any of the news stories, but a couple quick calculations on my own tells me most "typical" graduates ($ 22,000 - $ 33,000 worth of loans) won't benefit a whole lot (or cost the government a whole lot).

      On the other side of the coin, I think lenders need to show some restraint and stop approving those $ 100,000+ loans.

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      • Author by NotSure8 (October 28, 2011 9:50 am ET)
           
        I think the schools should show some restraint and stop charging $100k for an education.
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      • Author by NotSure8 (October 28, 2011 10:02 am ET)
           
        You also might want to check your numbers again. According to some research I did and some quick calculation, if I had a $22k student loan, and based on my salary, I would benefit from both provisions.
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    • Author by wookie (October 27, 2011 8:15 am ET)
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      This is a symptom of the same problem. The banks create a bubble of debt and then sell it as a great investment opportunity. The public is buried under student loan, mortgage, car and other debt with no jobs to pay it all back. Its just about trying to get a pay out from the investment slot machine while ignoring all of the problems under the surface.
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    • Author by RealRepublican (October 27, 2011 9:57 am ET)
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      "The real problem here is tuition. It's not the loans. If the tuitions were lower you wouldn't have this problem with the loans. But because you have the loans, the tuition goes up."

      That's total bull....I love how they try to apply their tiny scope of knowledge to everything they encounter. I would guess that most of this over-burdensome student loan debt came from a public college. The REAL PROBLEM is that state governments (especially here in the south) are cutting more and more funding to the public universities causing tuition to go up to make up. We had "the loans" when I started in 1991 but tuition at my university was only around $1700 a semester....now it has tripled while the private school down the road has only gone up at %15 since 1991....it was expensive then and is expensive now.

      This NY Times article from the beginning of this year explains the "real problem:"
      "The University of South Carolina has lost almost half of its state appropriations in the last three years, gets only about a quarter of its education budget from the state and is expecting another round of deep cuts next year."..and..."'If approved, this budget will mean that for the first time in our long history, tuition paid by University of California students and their families will exceed the state’s contribution to the core fund,' Mark Yudof, the president of the University of California system, told the Board of Regents. 'For those who believe what we provide is a public good, not a private one, this is a sad threshold to cross.'"
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    • Author by mary59 (October 27, 2011 2:32 pm ET)
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      All three of my children have college degrees. My daughter was first and got the best Pell grant and was able to graduate without much debt. My older son had a smaller Pell grant and graduated with more debt but found a job and was able to pay it off within several years.
      My younger son had an even smaller Pell grant and larger tuition. His debt is larger and his part time job was cut when the department he worked for was eliminated.

      This problem is only going to get worse while politicians dither.
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    • Author by politeradical (October 27, 2011 6:33 pm ET)
         
      Why wouldn't wingnuts attack policies that might help unburden people with student loans?

      All they see higher education as is a way to make even more money. It's not like they've ever been in a college classroom or God forbid teach.
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    • Author by dpalafox6 (October 27, 2011 7:09 pm ET)
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      conservatives are really unamerican, they preach for people to take responsability for their own lives to work your way out of poverty, to educate yourself yet they are against this, dont they know that these students will one day run this country? or maybe they do, bunch of elitists
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      • Author by jonimacaroni1 (October 28, 2011 10:07 pm ET)
           
        Yes, actually, that is "unamerican." We, as a nation, as a community, have a Christian obligation to help those who need our help.

        That's why we have a progressive tax system, for example, and have had it for nearly a century, you idiot - because Americans who thought straight realized that it's only fair for those who've already benefited the most from our society should bear a larger burden in order to help out those who haven't been as successful.

        That's why we have public education that everyone pays for - because it benefits the USA as a whole to educate our children, even if we, individually, don't have children who need to be educated.

        The ideas you espouse are ridiculous and won't work in the real world. Conservatives are somewhat unamerican - it's true.
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    • Author by bobklahn (October 28, 2011 3:38 am ET)
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      Well, that student loan plan has to be one of the dumbest ideas to come down the pike. Take 20 years to pay off the loan? That does seem to rate as stupid.

      Much better to change the bankruptcy laws back, and let students go bankrupt and wipe out the debt altogether. The only rational way out.

      Education has always been a public function in this country, time to go back to that.

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      • Author by NotSure8 (October 28, 2011 9:57 am ET)
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        Most housing loans take 30 years to pay down. By comparison, I think 20 years for an education is reasonable. Besides, the typical payback rate for a student loan is 12 years, adjusted by the level of discretionary spending as mentioned above.
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    • Author by Moravecglobal (October 28, 2011 4:47 pm ET)
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      Halt student debt: cut cost of higher education.Current pay increases for generously paid University of California Faculty is arrogance. Instate tuition consumes 14% of Ca. Median Family Income!
      UC Berkeley (ranked # 70 Forbes) tuition increases exceed the national average rate of increases. Chancellor Birgeneau has molded Cal. into the most expensive public university.
      University of California President Yudof and Chancellor Birgeneau($450,000 salary) have dismissed many much needed cost-cutting options. They did not consider freezing vacant faculty positions, increasing class size, requiring faculty to teach more classes, doubling the time between sabbaticals, cutting and freezing pay and benefits for all chancellors and reforming the pension system.
      They said such faculty reforms “would not be healthy for University of California”. Exodus of faculty and administrators? Who can afford them and where would they go?
      We agree it is far from the ideal situation, but it is in the best interests of the university system and the state to hold the line on cost increases. UC cannot expect to do business as usual: raising tuition; granting pay raises and huge bonuses during a weak economy that has sapped state revenues and individual Californians’ income.
      There is no question the necessary realignments with economic reality are painful. Regent Chairwoman Lansing can bridge the public trust gap with reassurances that salaries and costs reflect California’s economic reality. The sky above UC will not fall

      Opinions? Email the UC Board of Regents marsha.kelman@ucop.edu
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