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Cavuto, Hoft Think Obama's "About Normal" NH Primary Results Spell Trouble

January 11, 2012 1:18 pm ET — 46 Comments

Neil Cavuto and Jim Hoft suggested that President Obama receiving 82 percent of the votes in the New Hampshire Democratic primary show Obama is struggling among Democrats and that New Hampshire voters "are sending a message that we don't like you." But all recent incumbent presidents who went on to win re-election received similar percentages of the votes in their New Hampshire primaries, and political expert Larry Sabato called the results "about normal."

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Cavuto, Hoft Suggest Obama Primary Result Is A "Message" That Voters "Don't Like You"

Cavuto: Obama "Is Not Running Away With This." During Fox Business' coverage of the January 10 New Hampshire primaries, host Neil Cavuto claimed that President Obama was "not running away" with the New Hampshire Democratic primary vote and that the results at that point were "rather telling." Guest and former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain called Cavuto's claim "the big story" of the New Hampshire primary. Cavuto also claimed that President Clinton "got 96 percent of the Democratic vote" when "he ran up for re-election in 1996." From Fox Business' January 10 election coverage:

CAVUTO: We do want to let you know, if you'll indulge me, I do want to get your reaction to this. There is a primary going on the Democrat side, too. It doesn't get much attention. The president is officially unchallenged, but he is competing with eight other individuals in the state of New Hampshire. And this is rather telling -- it's still very early, but Gary, can we take a peek at this? I don't want to make an overly big deal of this, but there is a large number of write-in votes going on right now on in the Democratic primary for [candidates] other than Barack Obama. In fact, he is, that is the president, is scoring about three-quarters of the vote among Democrats, but he is not running away with this. Whereas Bill Clinton, when he ran up for re-election in 1996, got 96 percent of the Democratic vote.

Right now, Barack Obama is comfortably winning, but he had about 72 percent of the vote at last juncture, so you're just going to have to take me at my word here. I do have this here. That means 28 percent of Democrats voting in New Hampshire have voted for someone other than the president. Now, Herman, in and of itself, that's not revolutionary, but half of those 28 percent were write-in votes. Very early in the evening -- roughly 10 percent of the vote there, too. What do you make of that? 

CAIN: Neil, with all due respect, that's the big story.

CAVUTO: That's why I said it.

CAIN: The big story is -- exactly, that's why you're as good as you are. That is the big story, and that is, people are assuming that President Barack Obama wasn't going to be challenged, but even in New Hampshire, you've got write-in votes. And like you said, he didn't get the 96 percent that Bill Clinton got -- he's down to 72 percent. That means there is a very large amount of disillusioned Democrats that are not happy with President Barack Obama's track record in terms of his results. I think that that is the big story.

Cavuto later called the results "semi-dramatic" and stated that "normally when presidents run unopposed for re-election ... they get almost 100 percent of the vote." He then stated:

CAVUTO: Barack Obama, unchallenged in that state, still fighting off pesky write-ins and a host of others who a lot of New Hampshire Democrats have said, well, we prefer these alternatives. Not bad for Barack Obama, but keep in mind that close to one out of five Democratic voters in this state of New Hampshire are sending a message that we don't like you. We can tell you that much, we don't flip over you. [Fox News, Election 2012: New Hampshire Primary With Neil Cavuto, 1/10/12]

Hoft: "Ruh-Roh... Obama Gets Only 82% Of Democrat Vote In New Hampshire -- Running Unopposed." In a January 10 post on Gateway Pundit, Jim Hoft wrote: "Rough night for Barack...With 83% of votes counted, only 82% of Democrat voters chose Obama in New Hampshire even though he was running unopposed. 10% of Democrats wrote in someone else. The total of all write-in votes was the second-most popular choice on the ballot." [Gateway Pundit, 1/10/12]

But Recent Incumbent Presidents Who Went On To Win Re-Election Achieved Similar NH Primary Results

Political Expert Sabato: Obama's Primary Results Are "About Normal." On January 10, Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics, noted via Twitter that Obama's New Hampshire primary results were "[a]bout normal." From Sabato's Twitter feed:

Sabato primary

[Twitter, 1/10/12]

Reagan Received 86 Percent Of The Republican Primary Vote In 1984. According to New Hampshire State Department records, President Reagan won 86 percent of the vote in the state's Republican primary in 1984. From the New Hampshire Department of State:

Reagan primary 

[New Hampshire Department of State, State of New Hampshire Manual for the General Court No. 49, 1985, accessed via The University Of New Hampshire]

Clinton Received 84 Percent Of The Democratic Primary Vote In 1996.  Contrary to Cavuto's claim that Clinton "got 96 percent of the Democratic vote" in the 1996 New Hampshire primary, according to New Hampshire State Department records, Clinton won 84 percent of the vote in the Democratic primary in 1996. From the New Hampshire Department of State:

Clinton primary 

[New Hampshire Department of State, State of New Hampshire Manual for the General Court No. 55, 1997, accessed via The University Of New Hampshire]

George W. Bush Received 80 Percent Of The Republican Primary Vote In 2004. According to New Hampshire State Department records, President Bush won 80 percent of the vote in the state's Republican primary in 2004. From the New Hampshire Department of State:

Bush primary 1

Bush primary 2

[New Hampshire Department of State, State of New Hampshire Manual for the General Court No. 59, 2005, accessed via The University Of New Hampshire]

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    • Author by HughG (January 11, 2012 1:22 pm ET)
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      It's not at all surprising that they're using Herman Cain as an analyst. What it is, is disheartening.
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      • Author by mari2jj (January 11, 2012 4:12 pm ET)
           
        Actually only in Cavuto's dreams are those the facts. The poor thing is so detached from reality and attached to his racist swill syndrome that this is his last word, even if it is dead wrong. Racism, anyone! It drives him nuts that this smart, capable black dude bested our guy in the last election. I am a Republican but I loathe racism.
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    • Author by shaggles (January 11, 2012 1:23 pm ET)
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      HAHA! He was getting 3/4 of the votes but he wasn't "running away with it." That's too funny. If these zagnuts think any significant number of Democratic primary voters are going to vote for the Republican candidate in the general they're crazy.
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    • Author by shaggles (January 11, 2012 1:25 pm ET)
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      I like that graphic of the 1996 results. 1257 wrote in Bob Dole for the Democratic nom. HAHAHA!!!
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      • Author by montanabuddha (January 11, 2012 1:30 pm ET)
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        Pat Paulsen got 1007, that says a lot.
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        • Author by montanabuddha (January 11, 2012 1:33 pm ET)
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          Pat Paulsen
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          • Author by shaggles (January 11, 2012 1:47 pm ET)
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            That sounded a little like a speach NJ Gov. Christie might give. "If you don't like it just shut up!" ;)
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        • Author by shaggles (January 11, 2012 1:49 pm ET)
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          I suspect the 1007 who wrote in Pat Paulsen did it as a joke and/or protest. The 1257 who wrote in Dole probably thought they were voting in the general.
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      • Author by galmud (January 11, 2012 1:40 pm ET)
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        John Kerry came in 2nd in the 2004 Republican NH primary followed by the rest of the Democratic presidential candidates ...
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      • Author by mr. l (January 11, 2012 1:49 pm ET)
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        How about that charmer, Pat Buchanan getting 3,347? Pretty crazy that those many people would write him in on the democratic ticket...
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        • Author by notsure5 (January 12, 2012 9:17 am ET)
             
          The large majority of write-ins are not democrats. I'm mostly surprised there aren't any Mickey Mouses or the like.
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        • Author by notsure5 (January 12, 2012 9:18 am ET)
             
          Oh wait, I was wrong - Ross Perot is on there!
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    • Author by n'est-ce pas (January 11, 2012 1:26 pm ET)
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      Wow, Fox Concern Troll.
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    • Author by montanabuddha (January 11, 2012 1:28 pm ET)
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      Romney campaigns in NH for like 10 yrs, has a house there, spends millions, gets 39% and acts like he won the general election....





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      • Author by nerzog (January 11, 2012 1:38 pm ET)
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        Yeah... you'd think the FOXbots would be more concerned that 60% of their drooling base wants anyone but Romneybot. The only reason Romneybot is winning is because the Troglodytes are splitting their votes among the other losers.
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        • Author by shaggles (January 11, 2012 1:44 pm ET)
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          I don't think that's the story. That's what a primary is all about. There's no saying that that 60% would rally behind any one candidate to defeat Romney. Huntsman came in 3rd. If he hadn't been there who would his 17% have voted for? Or Gingrich's 10%? Probably not Perry, Paul or Santorum.
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          • Author by nerzog (January 11, 2012 2:15 pm ET)
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            That's a good point, but Huntsman put all of his effort into NH. He's not likely to do very well in upcoming primaries...but then, who knows? He's certainly more interesting than that dweeb, Romney.
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            • Author by 17andLiberal (January 11, 2012 2:33 pm ET)
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              I think the general opinion is that Huntsman is really running for 2016, which isn't that surprising. The Republican establishment can't really nominate a moderate when they've made a business of pandering to extremists and moving further right.
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              • Author by achrispage6992 (January 11, 2012 4:02 pm ET)
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                So what are they doing moving toward a nomination of Romney then?
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                • Author by notsure5 (January 12, 2012 9:21 am ET)
                     
                  Probably because his numbers have the most stable, except for Paul, and we all know they'll never accept Paul.
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                • Author by magnolialover (January 12, 2012 3:12 pm ET)
                     
                  Romney has turned into a far right cariacature of himself. He's pandering to the far right, and the far far right.
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            • Author by montanabuddha (January 11, 2012 3:04 pm ET)
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              He's certainly more interesting than that dweeb, Romney.


              Ya...I don't agree with him much but he lists Frank Zappa and Capn Beefheart as musical favs. Cool
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    • Author by jamesB (January 11, 2012 1:33 pm ET)
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      cavuto's plea for the "big story" to be obama's vote percentage only reveals the republican party's blase indifference to the eventual nomination of mitt romney as their candidate. it's john mccain all over again.
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    • Author by MiG (January 11, 2012 1:41 pm ET)
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      If this was as big a story as they claim, wouldn't they have double checked their numbers? That's a rhetorical question. We are dealing with Fox Business here so reality does not apply.
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    • Author by Liberal in the South (January 11, 2012 1:43 pm ET)
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      How is this a Business Story? Fox Business is the crappiest news station around. I mean, just call it Fox News 2, like MTV 2. MTV doesn't have music, FoxNews Business doesn't have Business News...garbage.
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      • Author by okiepoli (January 11, 2012 3:33 pm ET)
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        I've posted on this before, perhaps before you joined.

        Fox has made as its mission spinning any story about Pres. Obama specifically, and Democrats in general, in the most negative manner possible. (And if a Repub screws up badly enough, they'll label them a (D).)

        Ergo, "trouble for Obama" is Fox 'business'.
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        • Author by mari2jj (January 11, 2012 4:21 pm ET)
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          I am a life long moderate Republican and I never believe a thing Fox says. They are opinionated racists but they are so clever in trying to bamboozle the public with their subliminally racist jive that they think anyone, even Republicans fall for their line. I find them totally embarrassing!
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      • Author by MickD (January 12, 2012 7:28 am ET)
           
        Most likely the Ailes cabal wasn't satisfied with the speed they could produce propagandists. Therefore they created FoxNoose "Business" as a minor league of liars. Didn't the repulsive Bolling come from FBN?
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    • Author by Nihilist (January 11, 2012 2:10 pm ET)
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      the obfuscation is about, the fact that willard after spending millions and having 5 years of setting up in nh, only got 40%. this is a terrible number and rove, ailes, et al know it. willard should really tank in sc, unless he takes off his magic underware, and becomes a 'real xtian'.
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      • Author by mari2jj (January 11, 2012 4:30 pm ET)
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        I think attacking someone on religious grounds is the lowest of the low and antithesis to the spirit of freedom of religious and choice of religious practices. When anyone's freedom to practice their religion as they see fit is denigrated, it cuts across a freedom that is indelibly engraved in our constitution. I might never vote for Romney but I absolutely disavow any snide remark about his religious practice. It goes totally against the freedom of religion concept so dear to Americans.
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        • Author by MiG (January 11, 2012 4:54 pm ET)
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          The Constitution does not address snide remarks toward someones religion. I reserve the right to laugh and make snide remarks regarding any religion or religious practice. Mormonism is hilarious - almost up there with Scientology. But all religions have some pretty crazy myths and ideas. Most religions do offer some sound advice on how to live a happy and fulfilling life, however.
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          • Author by indictgwbush (January 11, 2012 7:46 pm ET)
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            In the past ten thousand years, more human beings have been killed in the name of "GOD" than for any other reason, with greed(other peoples' resources), coming in a close second.
            I'm hoping that in the evolution, and I do mean evolution, of humanity we out grow the need to base our lives on one mythology or another(religion) sooner than later.
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            • Author by kabniel (January 11, 2012 11:08 pm ET)
                 
              Oh I disagree. I think greed is by FAR numer one. It is just that many of those times it was GOD which was the excuse the powerful used to motivate the poor to do the dying
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        • Author by notsure5 (January 12, 2012 9:27 am ET)
             
          Even if it was intended as an attack on Nihilist's part, if you take out the snarkiness, he really does have a point. SC is a very religious state (as is much of the south), and his religion is a major factor for many of the voters, especially republicans. If he can't appeal to them he's going to have a weak showing at best.
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      • Author by Nihilist (January 11, 2012 5:08 pm ET)
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        the paraphrase being, that the uber xtains in sc and the south/ texas feel their 'brand' of xtianity is somehow more special than the LDS. these are words right out of the bob jones bone brains that permeate the GOP...
        and yes magic underware is pretty weird and funny, NO?
        the same goes for all the superstitions going around claiming their brand of stupidity is better than yours.... last year jesus was a cowboys fan, but this year he is a broncos fan, now how is that not funny? or the earth is 6000 years old, and man walked with the dinosaur? hillarious. and sc is the ground zero of this menace to the clear thinking liberal mind...

        hey, you, get off of my cloud....
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      • Author by shaggles (January 11, 2012 5:19 pm ET)
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        I forget about the Willard thing sometimes. Imagine the field day Fox would have with a Dem named Willard who went by Mitt. "Willard? Who's his running mate? Ben?" "Why does he go by Mitt? What's he hiding? How is Mitt any better than Willard anyway?" "Willard? Isn't he that weather guy with the fetish for centegenatians?"
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        • Author by Nihilist (January 11, 2012 5:57 pm ET)
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          i want to set up a website so when you google 'willard', you get a site like when you google 'santorum'....

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    • Author by captaincrunch (January 11, 2012 4:07 pm ET)
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      Neil Cavuto and Jim Hoft suggested that President Obama receiving 82 percent of the votes in the New Hampshire Democratic primary show Obama is struggling among Democrats and that New Hampshire voters "are sending a message that we don't like you."

      Actually, the message is "President Obama and most of the USA believe that Cavute and Hoft are just plain stupid"!
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      • Author by mari2jj (January 11, 2012 4:33 pm ET)
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        I doubt they are stupid but they are definitely NOT newsmen in the way they make such statements. However, the freedoms in our constitution even allow folks to make truly stupid statements and we then have the freedom to call them on it. Thanks for doing so.
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    • Author by Johaely (January 11, 2012 5:02 pm ET)
         
      Oh My God! 82%! Obama is going to get creamed in the Democratic Caucus!
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (January 11, 2012 6:01 pm ET)
           
        Some would like to see a real, extreme leftwing progressive, challenge Obama for the democratic nomination.

        John Some, Dwarf Butte, Montanana.
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        • Author by The_Cat (January 11, 2012 8:46 pm ET)
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          As pleasant as what you suggest might be, eweston8542983, I would be happy if Obama simply dumped Joe Biden and made Alan Grayson his VP choice. THAT would liven things up a little bit for those of us who are perhaps a bit tired of Obama's centrist tendencies.
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          • Author by eweston8542983 (January 11, 2012 11:22 pm ET)
               
            I think that's a really interesting idea.

            What I've heard of Alan impress's.
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    • Author by steeve (January 11, 2012 7:13 pm ET)
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      Full disclosure is crucial, not just a few times, but every time. MMFA failed to disclose that Hoft is the dumbest man on the internet.
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      • Author by The_Cat (January 11, 2012 8:47 pm ET)
           
        True enough, steeve, but once Hoft opens his mouth, pointing out that he is the dumbest man on the internet becomes somewhat redundant.

        >^o.-^<
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    • Author by magnolialover (January 11, 2012 8:52 pm ET)
         
      Only in crazy land is receiving over 80 percent of a vote a failure.
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