Charlie Kirk says not voting for Trump will lead to nationalized abortion rights
Co-host Blake Neff on the prospect of a law codifying Roe: “Once Congress passes that, I strongly suspect it will be very difficult to ever get it repealed. So let's not have them pass it.”
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From the September 25, 2024, edition of The Charlie Kirk Show, streamed on Rumble
BLAKE NEFF (CO-HOST): So you basically have about twenty states here that have vastly more restrictive abortion laws thanks to the Dobbs decision, that have so far not been overturned in any vote. And, you know, it's actually been almost four — it's been over two years at this point. They're — they've stuck around a little bit. They've gotten through an election cycle. And if you have pro-lifers deciding to stay home because Trump doesn't want a national abortion ban, like, what you are effectively doing is you are — you're mad at Trump over something that won't happen because I'm just going to tell you, they're not going to pass the national abortion ban. And if they do, we will lose the following election. I don't like that that is true.
CHARLIE KIRK (HOST): Yeah, Blake is super pro-life.
NEFF: That is what would happen. It's like saying, like, we should, like, nuke China to stop abortion. Like, OK. That's just a dumb thing to do because it would have massively destructive follow-up consequences. So we won't do it. And that is the same thing here. You're going to not vote for Trump because he's not pro-life enough, but you'd rather have national Roe. And really, once Congress passes that, I strongly suspect it will be very difficult to ever get it repealed. So let's not have them pass it.
KIRK: And the key part of this is not just that she supports it, she's willing to remove the filibuster to get it done.
NEFF: Yes. And that means everything else that they've talked about doing to get rid of the filibuster. They wanna make Puerto Rico and DC states, which would, among other things, mean the US flag gets uglier. You don't want that to happen. And, you know, four Democrat senators —
KIRK: More electoral votes.
NEFF: More safe electoral votes, and so on.
KIRK: Stacking the Supreme Court.
NEFF: Stack the Supreme Court. Pack the Supreme Court. All those gun rights decisions you like —
KIRK: Gone.
NEFF: They can get rid of those.
KIRK: Religious liberty, gone.
NEFF: Religious liberty, done.
KIRK: School choice, gone.
NEFF: School choice, gone.
KIRK: Free speech, gone.
NEFF: They could just rewrite everything they want.
KIRK: Correct.
NEFF: And they're — they have a long list of packages that they want to do. Like, you know how we got in trouble for, like, Project 2025? There are 50 different liberal nonprofits with 50 million more in assets, and they all write their own Project 2025s. And almost all of them have a massive list of things they can do if they get rid of the filibuster.
KIRK: And if you're pro-life out there — if you're a Christian or a Catholic — and you say, oh, I'm not voting for Trump because he's insufficiently pro-life, let me be as clear as I can: Not voting for Trump is a ticket to one-party rule and would have nationalized abortion. It would overturn every single state where we made progress. And then you'd be giving the keys to the Democrat Party to add DC and Puerto Rico as states because they'll use the filibuster for that — they'll get rid of filibuster for that — Just pack the Supreme Court and then also pass HR 1, which is universal mail-in balloting, and just no —
NEFF: Amnesty. They'll pass amnesty.
KIRK: And look, I'll be honest, I was talking to some pro-life leaders last night and they said, yeah, we're organizing people to protest against Donald Trump. And I said, you're being immature children, throwing the country out. Not only is your point stupid, but it is materially — it's like, not only is your protest point stupid, but if Donald Trump wins, the pro-life movement stays alive. If Kamala wins, it could be obliterated for a generation.