KATE BOLDUAN (HOST): When you hear that, Alice, what do you make of it?
ALICE STEWART (CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR): I make of it the way that I think a lot of people in that room heard that statement. And we have to keep that into consideration, when he's talking to these groups, die-hard Trump fans, his hardcore base, they view nationalist as someone who looks at America first, as the president ran on. America first. It doesn't mean America alone, but America first. And they look at nationalism in the same light as they do patriotism, and God bless America, and America is the greatest, strongest nation that we have. That's the lens that these people are looking at the term “nationalist” through, and we have to understand that. And he knows that, and he will continue, I guarantee, in the next ten rallies he has between now and election, when he's talking to those people in that crowd, that's exactly how they hear what he's saying. It is certainly perceived much differently by others who look at the nationalist globalist lens. But that's how they view it.
BOLDUAN: Angela, we're running out of time, I know, but, Angela, I want to get you in on this.
ANGELA RYE (CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR): Plain and simply, when Donald Trump says he's a nationalist, that is not a dog whistle, it's a foghorn to his base. Alice, we know he's trafficking in fear. I am devastated to hear you defend that nonsense. There is an analogy that my pastor used to use all the time about, when you dump a frog in a boiling pot of hot water, he'll immediately jump out, but if you put that frog in a cold pot of water and slowly turn the heat up, he will cook to death. And I would hope that we don't allow this country to cook to death behind this kind of nonsense. It is dangerous, it is toxic, and it needs to be stopped.
STEWART: I'm telling you how people across America are hearing what he's saying, that's exactly what I'm saying.
RYE: Then we need to start talking to them differently. It is devastating to hear you defend that.
