JASON MILLER: The reason they call them green job is because they're so expensive to create. Many of these green jobs aren't self-sustainable, they have to continue putting money into them. But, I want to go back to point just a moment ago when I was talking about the political realities of this, what I was talking about is that the Democratic base is split, and the fact that so many Democrats, union workers, support the president's move today, that was the point that I was getting to. This is where so many of the folks in the Acela corridor in New York and Washington just don't get where the rest of the country is on this. If we went into this accord and we fought with both our hands tied behind our back, we would lose millions of jobs over the next couple decades, the average household earning would drop by some $20,000 --
JOHN AVLON: No, stop. Just stop throwing out fake statistics like this, Jason.
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MILLER: No, he doesn't tell me what to do.
ERIN BURNETT (HOST): Hold on, guys, I'm the anchor of the program, I'm the anchor of the program. Jason, please be quiet for a second, let John go, I will give you your chance to respond. John, go ahead.
AVLON: The reason it's called an “accord” is that it's not a binding treaty. Any administration can negotiate within the context of this, it is essentially optional. To opt out of it is a political decision that flies in the face of the will of, not only the vast majority of Americans, yes, Republicans and Democrats, check your stats, but also the business leaders who have keener insights into the statistical impact of this than any pre-approved spin being given out by the White House for its surrogates.
