JEREMY SYMONS: When we align the markets, when we'll set the goals, American ingenuity can get it done and I believe in that future and I know your companies don't believe in that future. But I think the public are the ones that hang in the balance, and they're the ones that stand to benefit from this rule.
MYRON EBELL: I don't represent companies. And--
SYMONS: Wasn't Murray Energy the biggest sponsor of your--
EBELL: I would like to see our budget get closer to your budget at Environmental Defense Fund. Ours is $6 million a year, I think yours is over $100 million a year.
SYMONS: Isn't Murray Energy your biggest funder of your dinner? They're the biggest coal company in the United States for underground mining.
EBELL: I'd like to see a lot more funding from all of those companies, but unfortunately many of the coal companies are now going bankrupt. But look, the point is--
SYMONS: You said you don't represent the companies but you want more money from the companies?
EBELL: I would like to have more funding so that I can combat the nonsense put out by the environmental movement.
SYMONS: Well we do appreciate our million members supporting Environmental Defense Fund.
