Fox guest says “natural immunity,” not vaccination, is “the only way we will get out of this whole COVID pandemic”

Dr. Harvey Risch: “The vaccinated people create the variants”

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From the September 9, 2021, edition of Fox News' Fox News Primetime

RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY (GUEST HOST):  If you thought our kids would be exempt from the vaccine madness, think again. The Los Angeles school board is meeting tonight in less than an hour, and they are expected to have a mandate for vaccines for every single student over the age of 12.

The move -- this move would affect more than 400,000 children in the district, but it goes against the science as Dr. Marty Makary has highlighted the lack of risk children face, saying, quote: "My research team at John Hopkins worked to analyze approximately 48,000 children under 18 diagnosed with COVID. Our report found a mortality rate of zero among children with a pre-existing medical condition."

So, why force this vaccine mandate? Let's ask Dr. Harvey Risch, an epidemiologist at Yale University. Doctor, what do you say about this study that was done at John Hopkins university, that no child who was -- did not already have a pre-existing condition who got COVID has died in this country of COVID? Why are we mandating vaccines then?



HARVEY RISCH: Well, we shouldn't be. It's not rational. I think people are scared, and running scared, and their anxiety is causing them to make irrational decisions.



CAMPOS-DUFFY: Explain to me, for example, why natural immunity continues to be something that the administration refuses to acknowledge when they talk about the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. In that school district in L.A., about 58 percent of the students have had the vaccine. I imagine a very high number of those children have already had COVID.



RISCH: Yes. That's likely, and the thing that's not realized is not only is natural immunity better for the individual, it's also better for the society. The only way we will get out of this whole COVID pandemic is having a large amount of natural immunity throughout the population, and this is only gained by having people at lower risk take the risk of having the infection, and, in fact, somewhere over 70 percent, I believe 77 percent of Americans now have had the infection according to the CDC information. 

This means that we have a great base for fending off, but it's not going to happen from vaccine immunity because vaccine immunity lasts only a few months and it's too narrow. It doesn't get all the variants. The natural immunity from having had mild or asymptomatic COVID is much stronger and that's what's going to fight off the variants. 

And these variants are ones that are going to be and do occur in vaccinated people, not unvaccinated people. The vaccinated people create the variants, and that's what has to be fought.