CHRIS CUOMO (CO-HOST) And remember, [Stephen Bannon] is a member of the media. That’s what Bannon does, is he runs a hit site in Breitbart, and now he's talking to his own, I guess.
DAVID GREGORY: Isn't it interesting, Chris? I wonder -- I have a couple things to say about this as a member of the media, longstanding. I wonder if Mr. Bannon, when he came up with Breitbart, did he think that he was just a part of the mainstream media, or did he consider himself opposition to President Obama in particular. It'd be interesting to know his judgment on that. I mean, look, maybe they want to create a ministry of propaganda out of the White House, but that's not how it works here in America, and I wonder why, aside from kind of placating their base, why they're so paranoid in the White House about their standing and paranoid about the media. It's not a creative thing that they're doing, attacking the media. Other people have done it. The media's just got to keep doing its job. It's not going to shut it's mouth.It’s going to keep doing its job. It should be fair, it should be tough, it should illuminate, and so much of these issues are things that the president and the White House brought on themselves by uttering untruths, by talking about phantom illegal voters, by obsessing about crowd size and ratings. To Josh's point, you want to take on all these problems, you should focus on leadership, and less about talking about dishonest human beings in the media.