JOHN AVLON: Alex just said that maybe he hopes that Donald Trump pivots. But we know what Donald Trump stands for. We know what Donald Trump believes. He is a bridge -- he is a wall builder, not a bridge builder. That is the essence of his campaign. And his campaign is all about playing to an incredibly narrow base that does not translate to the changing demographics of this country. And when you hear Jeffrey Lord desperately try to deflect away from the comments on the KKK and others, that is a dog whistle game that goes way back. And while Jeffrey can point out it wasn't always under the Republican banner, it was always under the conservative populist banner and you need to own that cancer at the heart of the conservative movement right now. Because that is -- we are reaping what you have sewn for decades, Jeffrey.

JEFFREY LORD: The Ku Klux Klan is a leftist hate group, John. It has nothing to do with --

AVLON: There you go again, buddy. It has been conservative populism at the heart of that kind of bigotry and that is what's emerging in the demographic turnout today.

LORD: Read your history.

Previously:

CNN's Jeffrey Lord Defends Trump's Refusal To Disavow KKK By Claiming It Is “A Function Of The Left”

Jeffrey Lord Is CNN's On-Staff Donald Trump Apologist Who Carries His “Fetid Water Every Day”

Pundits Across Political Spectrum Blast Trump For Declining To Disavow Support From KKK