JOE SCARBOROUGH (CO-HOST): I understand the edge, Mark Halperin, on both sides. I understand the resentment on both sides. Call somebody a racist, their back's going to be up. [Donald Trump's campaign manager] Kellyanne [Conway] brought up, I think, the most important point, which is this was about Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton failed to deliver a message that could drive people to the polls in states --
MIKA BRZEZINSKI (CO-HOST): And I don't think racists and bigots voted for Donald Trump. I think people who were really hurting voted for Donald Trump. People who would have voted for Bernie Sanders voted for Donald Trump. People who were left out of the system, Elizabeth Warren's people, voted for Donald Trump. So that accusation, I'm sorry, about having white supremacists and racism lead your campaign, is like calling all the voters for Donald Trump racists and bigots. They aren't. They aren't.
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SAM STEIN: I think actually both sides are right here, which is one, that Hillary Clinton didn't step foot in Wisconsin in the general election. That is a strategic mistake, that you can't connect. On the flip side, while you're right that these voters weren't racist themselves, I do think it's fair to say that a lot of what was coming out from the Trump apparatus were dog whistles. For instance, just one thing --
BRZEZINSKI: Oh no, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Don't say the word “dog whistle.” I will tell you there were ugly, racist issues that were on the forefront. There were some stupid comments by the -- no, hold on.
SCARBOROUGH: The Muslim ban? Racist. Judge Curiel? Racist.
BRZEZINKI: Let me. And stupid comments by the candidate himself, blurted out, on the forefront, not a dog whistle and stop saying “dog whistles.” What are these people who voted? Dogs? OK now, stop.