From the May 9 edition of MSNBC's Meet the Press Daily:
CHUCK TODD (HOST): It is interesting to me to watch the president - it's like he's got all the burners are on, on the stove right? And he's got this showdown with Congress - that is one he's putting his hand on the burner. Everything else, it's a little dovish. Dovish on tariffs, dovish on Iran, and dovish with Venezuela.