From the April 8 edition of MSNBC Live with Stephanie Ruhle:
MSNBC's Jacob Soboroff: Trump's policies at the border have “made a legitimate humanitarian crisis worse”
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NOAH ROTHMAN (COMMENTARY MAGAZINE): Look, I think the administration's immigration policies have been pretty abhorrent. The notion that he went before a Jewish audience and said we need to reform our asylum policies speaks to a profound ignorance of how Jewish voters think. However, there is a humanitarian issue here that needs to be addressed by law enforcement. We have people who are dying in custody and it's not because they're being ill-treated in custody, it's because they're being ill-treated along the way into custody. There is a crisis on the border in a humanitarian sense and it behooves us to address it proactively and not to assume that this is just somebody whose backing on racist impulses. He may be, but as we've said, the primary drivers of illegal immigration are from South Asia and East Asia, they don't look like Donald Trump either.
STEPHANIE RUHLE (HOST): OK then before we go, I need you to tell us this Jacob. You are the person who spends the most amount of time at the border. The president called a national emergency 50 days ago. What has happened in the last 50 days? What is it actually like there? Because for the majority of us that are either sitting in a newsroom or watching the news, we're listening to two narratives. What's the truth?
JACOB SOBOROFF (NBC NEWS): Well, he's made it worse. I mean, he's made a legitimate humanitarian crisis worse based on their policies since he declared this national emergency, I think it was back in February, by doing things that -- Julia Ainsley laid it out pretty well -- like metering people at ports of entry, which forces people to go in between; taking the resources away from places where folks could legitimately declare asylum at ports of entry and moving those resources, actual human bodies, 750 of them at this point, to locations that are not there. And just one thing about what Noah said. Don't forget, Felipe [Gómez Alonzo] and Jakelin [Caal Maquin], the two young children who died, these autopsies have now come out. Their conditions, their situation was made worse based on their time in immigration detention. It wasn't that they were only sick and came over into this country and just happened to die when they got here. The conditions that young migrant children and their families are being held in right now made the situation worse for them, and they don't have to just be in cages like the ones we're looking at on the screen right now from the separations.
Previously:
Ali Velshi debunks Trump's lies about a “national security crisis” on the southern border