CHRIS CUOMO (CO-HOST): So he's got a one-two strategy. He's got this, let me soften myself up, try and take some of those edges down that you're referring to, Charles. But then, on the other side of the ball, you have the alt-right movement that's coming up that is incredibly hard, acidic, and often very manipulative in terms of what they're trying to do with their campaigning. They're trying to help Trump now also. I guess we're seeing the the two parts of his campaign: the Breitbart guy versus the more middle-minded guy. What about this alt-right movement?

CHARLES BLOW: Well, the Southern Poverty Law Center has basically labeled all of the Breitbart site part of the alt-right movement, which is kind of a white nationalist movement. And Trump goes out and hires a chief in his campaign from Breitbart. I mean, I don't know how I'm supposed to take that. And on the same time that he's trying to appeal to black people and soften his stance on immigration. Who is being suckered by this? I'm really confused about which white people in America are being sucked in by this and how -- what you're telling yourself over dinner at night and how you're making this all make sense to you. Because nobody else -- nobody who's been insulted by this man is doing this. Nobody's having that conversation where you're saying, oh, well, maybe he's changed and maybe he's so different. That conversation is not happening. So I'm just -- I'm very curious sociologically to understand what conversation is being had.

Previously:

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