From the August 17 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:
Fox guest says that under health reform, he might have to “let” his wife “suffer until she passes on”
Written by Media Matters Staff
Published
After guest Mary Liste asks, “What will happen to us people that are elderly?,” Fox & Friends co-host Gretchen Carlson concludes her interview with the couple by saying: “Well, and we all have parents -- at least I do -- in your age bracket as well, so many of us are asking some of the same questions.”
From the August 17 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:
CARLSON: Well, that was President Barack Obama at a recent town hall in Grand Junction, Colorado, affirming the AARP support for health care reform. But that's sparking some controversy among the group's members. Joining me right now from Cleveland, Ohio, are two of those members, Patrick and Mary List. Good morning to you.
PATRICK LISTE: Good morning, Gretchen.
MARY LIST: Good morning, Gretchen.
CARLSON: Now, I understand that both of you have decided that you no longer want to be members of the AARP. Why?
PATRICK LISTE: That -- well, the AARP is backing something that is not going to be in the range of our ages. The AARP is backing a national health care plan. To me, if this national health care plan goes through, me and my age of over 70 -- going to be 73, my wife is going to be 70 -- we may be rationed out of the care. And if we are, we're both going to have to give up. I'm going to have to give up my wife, because she costs insurance a lot of money, and it's taking care of the things she's had as far as cancer for 17 years.
CARLSON: You know, I just have to say, Patrick, when you said that my heart sunk. You said you'd have to give up your wife? Mary --
PATRICK LISTE: I'd have to give her up -- yeah, if she couldn't get the medication. They're starting her on a new regimen this coming Wednesday that's going to be more horrific to her body, but it is also going to be more expensive. And if they determine that because she's 70 years old, she no longer is eligible because there's younger people that want to use this money, what am I going to do? I'll just say goodbye. Let her suffer until she passes on.
CARLSON: Oh, my goodness. Well, Mary, I know that you've been battling cancer for some time.
MARY LISTE: Yes.
CARLSON: This will be -- will this be your fourth or fifth regiment of treatment?
MARY LISTE: This is my fourth treatment.
CARLSON: And your fears -- this is a disease that you've been trying to overcome -- your fears with the AARP supporting health care reform are what?
MARY LISTE: Well, like I said and my husband said, I'm very worried that because of my age, and I'd have to go and have more cancer treatments, what will happen to me? I'm very worried about me and the future of my children and children's. I'm very concerned about this, because what will happen to us people that are elderly?
CARLSON: Well, and we all have parents -- at least I do -- in your age bracket as well, so many of us are asking some of the same questions. Patrick and Mary Liste, thank you so much for sharing your story with me today.
PATRICK LISTE: Gretchen, thank you so very much. Thanks.
MARY LISTE: Thank you, Gretchen.
CARLSON: You're welcome.