BILL O'REILLY (HOST): Now, I've called for Chicago and the mayor of Chicago and the governor of Illinois to put the National Guard in these areas just for a while. Just to stop the daily carnage. Would you support that, Mr. Ward?
HOWARD WARD: No I wouldn't. I wouldn't. And I wouldn't support that because, Bill, this situation right here, we all know this is by design. All I want to know is one thing, Chicago and other areas of Chicago it's not happening. Only on the south side, Engelwood, [inaudible], areas like that. Why it's not happening in the other areas where its predominantly white folks at? That's what I want know.
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HARTMAN: It seems to be obviously gang related. And I think it is time for the National Guard. I have written that as you know, Mr. O'Reilly, and every time I write it I get attacked to say oh you don't want to it do that. We are in a state of emergency and I think you do want to do that on a temporary basis to stabilize-
O'REILLY: That's right. Stabilize it and protect the poor law abiding people who are being held hostage.
HERMENE HARTMAN: That's right. They are being held hostage. People are living in fear. People are scared. They are scared to let their children go to school. It's kind of you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. And these kids are getting killed in daily normal routine activities, going to your grandmother's house, coming from your grandmother's house, standing in front of your school, riding the bus, in the playground. The kids are doing what they should do as kids. But this gang thing, where does it come from? I don't know where it comes from and where could do the guns come from?
O'REILLY: It comes from easy money and a culture that is sociopathic.
