KIRSTIE ALLEY (GUEST): You aren't really allowed to say this in the very liberal community because they think what you're saying is stigmatizing mental illness. Well this is what I’m here to say -- I don't think you're mentally ill if you're depressed.
TUCKER CARLSON (HOST): Right, I agree.
ALLEY: I don't think you're mentally ill --
CARLSON: Life is sad.
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ALLEY: If I had a parent that I could have said that to and they would go “OK, I'll help you" you know whatever. Because, you know people are suffering, they do have anxiety, they do have things.
CARLSON: Yes.
ALLEY: But I -- You know people say to me “well you're a Scientologist." I feel lucky that I'm a Scientologist. Because in Scientology that is what part of and what you do is you find out why you're so screwed up. And you find out why are you depressed. There's a reason people are depressed.
CARLSON: I think you're supposed to see a psychiatrist though? Isn't that the law?
ALLEY: Well I -- I don't do -- the reason I don't go to a psychiatrist is because in their bag are the drugs. That's the main way they treat people.
CARLSON: Yes.
ALLEY: I just want someone to go like “what's going on?" and you say “blah blah."