LARRY KUDLOW (FOX BUSINESS HOST) Trouble with Biden's story here is he's doing nothing. He favors open borders. He's now going to give them work permits and ID cards, we have no idea where this is going to lead. Minimum numbers, 7 million illegals under Biden, number could be as high as eight million plus, that's about the size of New York City's population and of course New York City is getting killed. I just want to say, a solution here is going to go back to catch and deport, first of all, not catch and release. Second of all, you have got to knock heads and bring Mexico back. In the Trump administration, we had, even the left-wing AMLO, provided 15, 20,000 troops and that helped us with Remain in Mexico. And I would also suggest you're going to have to use the U.S. military at some point, either to plug holes in the wall and I think the wall should be completely built or to go after the cartels, which are dominating the border. And you know what, if you have to chase the cartels into Mexico in a hot pursuit, then so be it. Because that's the only way you're going to solve this border problem and it's the only way you're going to solve the fentanyl problem.
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HARRIS FAULKNER (CO-HOST): I want to just get back to something that Larry just said, even if we have to chase them into Mexico, we've got to fight them. We've got to fight them at the border. This now is war and the type of relationship you are going to have to have with Mexico is going to be decidedly different. So they can get on board or get out of the way, because otherwise we're being overrun.
KUDLOW: I want -- it is not a war act against Mexico at all --
FAULKNER: No, it's against the cartels.
KUDLOW: That is correct.