TRACE GALLAGHER (HOST): There's clearly concern that Taylor Swift has got some sway in this election, Ben.
BEN FERGUSON (GUEST): Yeah, look, she's more popular than Joe Biden has ever been in his entire life, so that's got to be a moment where if you're the president, you're like "Okay, this is a little intimidating." And I also think you've got to laugh at Hillary Clinton here. That's like one of the most sexist tweets that you can send out when you don't even use the guy's name who actually played in the Super Bowl, and you go to Taylor Swift.