JOHN ROBERTS (HOST): So, Katie, how does this add, if it adds anything, because Trump supporters don't seem to care much about all of this?
KATIE PAVLICH (CONTRIBUTOR): Politically, I don't think it adds much. President Trump has already issued not guilty pleas on the 37 counts that were previous. This brings it up to 40. When it comes to the server issue of deletion that is included in the indictment, I'm sure you will hear lots of references to Hillary Clinton who was not the President of the United States and bleach-bitted her server and deleted thousands of emails that were under subpoena. So that's the argument that the Trump campaign will make, the former president will make himself. But also on this issue of indicting Carlos -- What was his last name?
ROBERTS: De Oliveira.
PAVLICH: Yeah, De Oliveira He was a maintenance man at Mar-a-Lago.
ROBERTS: Yeah, he was the head of maintenance.
PAVLICH: And he gave a voluntary interview to the FBI. I have a feeling that he was trying to be cooperative, didn't have a lawyer at the time when he was speaking to the FBI. And you know, the prosecutor is going after him because it's an easy thing to do to try and get to President Trump. So, while Trump may be protected by, you know, presidential declassification or have an easier time hiring lawyers, people working at Mar-a-Lago have a much harder time getting out of this, unfortunately.