GRANT STINCHFIELD (HOST): You know, J.D., when people hear these non-governmental organizations, NGOs, they think, oh, nonprofits, they're harmless. Not so much the case, is it?
J.D. GORDON (FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN ADVISER): Not at all. This is a lot more harmful than just a far-left grift. Human rights organizations are part of an industry that's worth about $16 billion a year. And not only is it a grift against U.S. taxpayers and everyone else in the world who they're able to get money from, it has serious national security implications, Grant, because as you mentioned, basically what they did is for two decades they fundraised to help free prisoners from Guantanamo, from Afghanistan, from Iraq. We're talking about members of the Taliban, al Qaeda, other terror organizations. They worked overtime to free these guys. They helped create the situation we have now in Afghanistan, where they pushed so hard to release the Taliban from Afghanistan -- from Guantanamo -- they're now back in Afghanistan running the country.
STINCHFIELD: They made it seem as though every single person on Guantanamo was being waterboarded, or whipped with chains, or whatever else it might be. Personally, my own personal opinion, J.D., is I really don't care if we waterboarded every single one of them. They were terror suspects, and in my mind, they were all guilty. But that's neither here nor there. They made it seem as [if] everybody was getting this done and that wasn't the case either, was it J.D.?