Spotify's Joe Rogan and guest Jordan Peterson suggest Michael Eric Dyson isn't really Black

Rogan: “Unless you are talking to someone who is like 100% African from the darkest place where they don't wear clothes and they have developed all of that melanin to protect themselves from the sun, even the term Black is weird”

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From the January 25, 2021, edition of Spotify's The Joe Rogan Experience

JOE ROGAN (HOST): What did Michael Eric Dyson call you? A mean, angry white man?

JORDAN PETERSON (CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST): Yeah. A mean, angry white man.

ROGAN: Hilarious. You're not mean at all. That's what's dumb about that statement. You're not mean at all.

PETERSON: I am white -- actually that's a lie too. I am kind of tan. And he was actually not Black, he was sort of brown.

ROGAN: If you're tan then what the fuck am I. Because I'm darker than you. That's ridiculous. 

PETERSON: Neither of us are white.

ROGAN: Well, I'm Italian.

PETERSON: And he was brown, not Black.

ROGAN: Well, isn't that weird. The Black and white thing is so strange because the shades are such a spectrum of shades of people. Unless you are talking to someone who is like 100% African from the darkest place where they are not wearing any clothes all day and they have developed all of that melanin to protect themselves from the sun, even the term Black is weird. When you use it for people who are literally my color, it becomes very strange.

PETERSON: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is true.