LAURA INGRAHAM (HOST): Dr. McCullough, would you recommend that any child without a pre-existing condition, or just any child of decent health, get these vaccines at this point? Yes or no?
PETER McCULLOUGH: No. And the data -- there's a paper from MMWR end of December, from the CDC, the safety data -- children ages 5-11, Laura, it doesn't look good. It looks like the serious conditions, for the first time now, we see heart injury in children before puberty, they should not be given under any circumstances.